Tower The Middle (Low Elo Legends)

600 Elo Golden Pit! Towers may be able to hold the middle...
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[@FermataJack]

High level games are great and show what a very skilled person or team can do. But LEL...it just hits differently. It shows hobbyists doing their best, and I love it.

[@Axelerati0n]

Exactly, in high level games I always feel like things go way over my head and I don't even understand most of what is going on (despite T90 doing a great job). But then LEL is so relatable, I don't even think I'd beat them though, haven't played the game since early 2000's as a kid.

[@kR-qj7rw]

lel anything is infinitely more fun. low level aoe 2 and 3, my friends trying fps that i have hundreds of hours in its because its not optimal but fun or non optimal and trying their hardest but being borderline useless at times pros make it boring because with experience you know how things will usually go LEL is a wildcard everytime

[@spinyslasher6586]

The imperfections in LEL is what makes it so fun, especially in a high level game like AoE series. Pros play at such a level of refinement, that, as a viewer, I struggle to understand which way the match is gonna go. At the end of the match, unless the game was an absolutely curbstomp by one side (which rarely happens), I find it hard to pinpoint exactly where the losing side went wrong. With LEL, it's much easier for me to understand and scrutinise the game.

[@Redragonclaws]

I’d like to see more games from mantis. This guy is pretty cool. I dig his “slow and smart” style as you put it

[@latbat58]

Agreed. He didn't miss on upgrades he did push properly with good treb number and defended them. He didn't idle tc early mid game. He didnt go for ai army. I loved watching him

[@madvtecyo546]

Everytime I watch LEL I get worried I’m gonna be in it 😂

[@bedwarssimple7615]

When i was at 800 elo i was thrilled every time if i would be in the video. It was a mixture of hope and fear 😅

[@Whosyourdaddy21]

Just think of it as a free coaching session

[@nicholase2868]

I keep hoping I will be, but I'm more mid elo now which gets less attention.

[@dynastynyy]

I had a spectator come into my game last night and all i could think was "oh God i hope this isn't on LEL this week"

[@supliiiiiieeeeees]

How horrible that would be... 👀

[@basstscho1400]

That game really showed me how far i have come! When i joined quite short after release of DE for the first time i played ranked. Dropped down at 800ELO and as i improved rised up to 995 now. Wondering why my progress got so slow but only, because the whole community improved. I would have lost so hard to blue in my early stages. So consistent with vills and whatnot. 800Elo back then would get wrecked by todays 650! in only 2years

[@sam4secretary]

^ this part is so true-- ELO is a relative measure of skill relative to the rest of the community.

[@bedwarssimple7615]

Your story reminds me of mine. I have played age with friends at lan partys and against the AI for years before i bought DE and played my first game online two years ago. I dropped down to 800 elo and improved step by step from there on. Now im at 1300. Only because i have been down there i can enjoy LEL so much. I remember exactly how it felt back then.

[@JohnLeePettimoreIII]

CBGB's is an iconic club in New York City that was the center of rock and roll culture and revered by many musicians. one of my favorite stories that took place in CBGB's was when Alice Cooper and Janis Joplin decided to swap pants right there at the table. he says he still has those pants to this day.

[@SenselessUsername]

Yes was my immediate idea too... T90 "What does it stand for? Celts... Beautiful... " -- no, it's Country, Bluegrass, Blues. It was supposed to be a club for that, but it flourished during punk. But around 2000 it got priced out of the real estate market (Bowery, NY) and disappeared?

[@mayomust]

22:54 “are there any other 2s on screen?” blue had exactly 222 food at that point :)

[@se6369]

Two knights on the screen too

[@hifartingoctopuss]

being a player at this ELO maybe what some people dont realise is how much your play varies. sometimes you have 10 loss streaks and sometimes 10 win streaks depending how much you play. obviously if you practice a strategy you might end up as a 1100 teuton scout rusher but a 600elo random civ gamer

[@hifartingoctopuss]

*Japanese samurai rusher

[@actionbastard5010]

CBGBs was a club in New york for punk bands

[@ziovaras]

Keep on doing this mate. I ran across you accidentally as an old school hobo, refreshing memories for a perfect game. And I just kept on watching. As a poker Pro I need no distraction but just background noise and your voice is perfect. You hypnotise me to great play and perfect focus. I do not need to watch you, just listen. Still I watch. But man, you run amazing. Thumbs up and all Mega Dicks up, love you and all your low Elo legends. Your are a legend yourself. Apologies for my shit English, not my first language but keep on.

[@Ale-ch7xx]

Bring all memes back in discord please

[@le_chiffre_]

3:47 I love this guy. The miner, all alone in his mine. Working all day long and relaxing after a hard day with a beer on his self-made wooden bench, watching the sun go down. 6:17 And then there was the love of his life working beside him.

[@jliller]

I bet that miner barely keeps his family fed.

[@SuperSirianRigel]

CBGB used to be a famous club/bar place that used to host a lot of famous rock bands back in the 90's and 2000's. A lot of them before they were big and famous. Some of those bands would even come back and perform there just because of how famous it was for awhile. I believe it no longer exists though.

[@SuperSirianRigel]

One of the bands people might know is Korn. They played there a lot when they first started.

[@otto-wf2ck]

Some Low elo legends yes just what i needed ^^

[@ColbyKingPerson]

Thank you for taking some time to acknowledge theyvseemed to know what they were doing but were just slow. I think that's the main reason my ELO is low, so I identify. But anyway, it was refreshing because so often low ELO is equated with dumb. Sometimes we are not dumb, just slow!

[@ColbyKingPerson]

At the same time, while I claim I am not dumb, I definitely appreciate the discussion if how red needed to switch into scorpions. I get tunnel vision and would have been similarly at a loss, bc I very rarely build more than 2 siege workshops...

[@battleforevermore]

@@ColbyKingPerson i am slow and used to be around 800 elo, and then i changed my hotkeys. I have select all tc=H, and select all barracks,range,stable as B,N,M. I blindly spam with those while thinking of the correct counter, tower position, castle upgrades etc. It has helped me hit 1k elo.

[@ColbyKingPerson]

@@battleforevermore yeah, I know I need to work on my hot keys. I'm terrible at keeping up with military production because I haven't yet done what you're saying. This may be the push I need to do it!

[@anonymouscayh]

I think in this situation where you say the Celts are SoL for things to make, the best option is siege. Getting more siege to flatten the samurai, utilise the Celt wood bonus and the gold mining in the middle.

[@arnavnandan]

Many people are saying for T90 to do a exploding kings LEL game, but there are some problems with it: 1. It would be hard to arrange players 2. The one with the highest elo would probably dominate 3. LEL don't really understand diplomacy, like sometimes it's annoying when your ally betrays you and kills you for some reason, then ends up losing hard.

[@LightKnight_Age_Of]

1:46 THAT SHEEP! Such a thug!

[@kingrex1931]

CBGB was a club in New York City that was big in breaking the punk and new wave music scenes in the late seventies and early eighties

[@Kubinda12345]

I like when players use the unique units and techs instead of the generic crossbows and knights meta.

[@danw3576]

I think LEL team games on amazon tunnel would be really fun to see, there's one choke so it's not so difficult to track the action.

[@iamUglie]

there was an upload of that not too long ago. if you didn't catch it, here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aXnCZWl6aJd_hpI

[@TheMattiax95]

Next step: Tower the corners.

[@Lapeno456]

CORNER BOI THE TRILOGY

[@vladimirdjokic5741]

Honestly, Celts have many ways to fight samurai, even macking a full champion is a good option because of just how much cheaper the unit is. Champion pretty much wins any inf uu with equal resources, except stuff like jag or TK.

[@bedwarssimple7615]

Im pretty sure that that is not true. Samurai attack like all japanese infantry 33% faster. And many other inf uu have amazing stats aswell.

[@vladimirdjokic5741]

@@bedwarssimple7615 While that is correct, Samurai costs way more than a champion if we're talking per unit. Sure, Japanese champs win against Celt champs, but resource-vise it's Celt champions that win vs Elite samurai

[@Vidhur]

CBGB stands for Celts Beat Great Buildings.😂

[@patrickhamos2987]

me: option1: see the news how China is imploding option2: low elo legends guess what i picked

[@aerie353]

im glad in aoe 2 china doesnt have tofu dreg construction and buildings dont fall apart

[@patrickhamos2987]

@@aerie353 next year aoe IV dlc lol

[@oooBASTIooo]

CBGB used to be a very famous (world famous) club in New York... I think there is also a movie about it...

[@TheAmericanPrometheus]

2:20 This is the AoE2 equivalent of the Windows logo exactly hitting the corner of the screen.

[@elfarcherdv]

7:49 A lil too close to home my friend

[@larsgundy]

CBGB stands for "Country, Bluegrass, and Blues," and it's a club where a bunch of the old punk bands got their start.

[@patrickhamos2987]

bro CBGB's was a NYC club ya goof

[@windows95_de]

I havent been playing AOE for 1-2 years, but I still love watching these Videos. I prefer it over watching football or any sports anytime.

[@armed_but_blind2768]

Imagine the chaos of a low elo tournament

[@Bill-Piano]

19:48 equal stones

[@steThanos]

Just a stray thought... civ bonus. Monks can convert Gaia units. Maybe they start with a particularly slow Monk instead of a scout.

[@paulgaeth4443]

22:44 For those that like the #2

[@RickJaeger]

If T90 does 2v2 LEL, it should be "2vTuesdays"

[@bryanwendland235]

Mantis seems pretty dope. i honestly want to watch a game where he loses to see WHY he loses. Smart player, slow, but plenty of pros play that way, so I need to know

[@kristofvarga4591]

T90. He's one of the persons whose vids I like before seeing them and I never get disappointed :D

[@kattcity]

i have really enjoyed watching your videos especially the Low ELO games ...I have been playing since before the HD version, many years now and I still suck. I have played 1100 games and 4 ranked games which I lost all 4 badly the last one really badly lol. My current rating is 788 which is not indicative of my skill. I mostly play against AI. So I am thinking ....i should keep playing ranked games to get my rating down so i can get more competitive matches...any suggestions??? i am 64 and retired and really love this game but like I sai...i really suck lol.

[@troydowns7748]

Definitely just keep playing and have fun! It usually takes 20-30 games to get competitive games, but once you power through the losses, it gets a lot more fun. Keep that TC pumping.

[@kattcity]

@@troydowns7748 Thanks...I played a lot the last couple of days ....down to 551 ;-)

[@jeffseidl]

CBGB was a famous punk rock club in New York

[@buttnuttz6119]

I’d want to be celts in this one, I’d just go heavy scorp because my opponent is definitely going to make samurai

[@JosephEaorle]

cbgb is the original punk bar

[@John7No]

anyone remember a golden pit game 2-3 years ago on a 2v2 team tournament, i think it was world/country teams. One player sling resources to the other and the other took over the game with eagles? i 've been trying to find it but no luck .

[@amosdraak3536]

Yes, I recall that. I’ll look for it too and see if I can find it. I remember the Eagle take over was pretty cool.

[@John7No]

@@amosdraak3536 indeed it was an great overturn of events . please share it if you find

[@fredh9808]

Partidazo, aguante azul, viejaaaa

[@MikeZeroX]

*Tower into gg.*

[@ahstinfixsnhc9765]

Paused it at 12:03 He has exactly 666 stone and sacrificed all those vills for it xD if this castle goes up the devil did it xD

[@MrFantocan]

Maybe I'm a fatslob but I do feel some weird pleasure when the agressor gets destroyed.

[@Sputnik5790]

Blue is really good does a lot of things right.

[@MatheusGomes-ej3mr]

blue didnt even researched kataparuto i guess, japanese trebs are insane

[@marccreter9348]

T90 how do you not know what CBGB is

[@Crashdownfully]

Good Game!

[@namshimaru]

love it

[@matthewsisk2983]

New to T90 so maybe a dumb question but how can we watch the streams live?

[@amosdraak3536]

I think you just click on his About Page here on YT and just click the Twitch Link. Then whenever he’s streaming it’ll display on whatever tab you have open, bro.

[@moronoke]

*nothing happens* T90: what a game!

[@bubbasbigblast8563]

_Plays Celts_ _Doesn't use siege weapons_ I'm kinda at a loss here...

[@mattwhite4302]

I had a game the other day where it was ALL celt paladins. It didn't help that I was playing Italians. It was like they were just gifting me the game.

[@harishrajaaruntheeban8896]

So I just played my 1st ranked game the other day and I got tower rushed lost in feudal age

[@bedwarssimple7615]

i hope it hasnt discouraged you. I have lost many of my first games aswell but eventoually i droped down to a elo score i belonged to and from there on i won ever second game. The beginning is the hardest part but it is worth it.

[@harishrajaaruntheeban8896]

@@bedwarssimple7615 That's good to know maybe I'll play ranked again

[@tregbrown3054]

Hey guys so where do you down load the game? Or play at? I use to always take the center on the CD game

[@sonofskeletor33]

Steam. Steam is your friend.

[@N1NJ4P1R4T3]

Can you queue for these maps online? I haven't done any pvp yet, but will totally consider it if silly maps like this are available

[@nickm2856]

Yes, they rotate every few weeks

[@andrewweisbrod4506]

Concerning the moonwalking sheep at 1:46, is that a common bug?

[@WigglyWings]

Blue's farm placement around his TC though 11

[@mikelivingood7797]

You know T90 will never call out bad farm placement.

[@WigglyWings]

@@mikelivingood7797 Who said anything about bad, they look beautiful.

[@WigglyWings]

Can celts even counter the Samurai rush?

[@ApathyBM]

Blues Farms

[@wanderhund8883]

I just realized Player 2 had two Tc's adn two b's in his name and b is the letter number 2 in the Alphabet???? like wtf

[@jacobmosovich]

Is an 11 minute feudal age any good? I tried timing myself to see how fast i could feudal up

[@adamjames7721]

Depends what build order you're going for :) for starters archers are usually 22-23 pop up (around 10:05/10:30), and scouts at around 20-21 pop up (9:15/9:40). The main thing to focus on is to have constant villager production in your Town Centre

[@jacobmosovich]

@@adamjames7721 lol for what elo is those times im no pro.

[@pianodentist6750]

It is decent, you can definitely go online with that. Try to learn one build order and at first do it all the time and you ll get better quickly. And then some new build order 👍

[@jacobmosovich]

@@pianodentist6750 i probably play the age that i tech up in normally. I have no elo. When i get to feudal i prefer infantry rush or scout rush while upgrading either. If it fails i usually back up tech up to castle and build it in the most defensible location in my base.

[@adamjames7721]

@@jacobmosovich Those are the times you can get if you keep constant villager production in your TC. When I was first learning to play I used a couple build orders from Hera (on youtube) and just practiced them a couple times - it does work once you learn the build order :)

[@mikelivingood7797]

Ahh, T90 why could red not have used fully upgraded crossbows against the samurai, or even elite samurai? Celt scorpions would be good, but he would want to follow them up with monks and a tower push to protect the monks. There were many options available, the only bad thing was not keeping up with villager production, that will lose you the game with any civ.

[@bedwarssimple7615]

Because fully upgraded celt crossbows have just seven attack. They lack Arbs and Bracer. So they would deal two damage per shoot to the elite samurai. Scorpions with champions would have been the only good counter to elite samurai which is available to celts. In my opinion this match up heavily favors the japanese. The celt eco would have been the only noteworthy advantage over japanese.

[@mikelivingood7797]

@@bedwarssimple7615 In the age of Empires Wiki it lists archers as a weakness for samurai, not because of the attack damage, but because of micro. 15 microing crossbowmen still 2 shot a samurai. Scorpions as I said would have been the best choice but I would have chosen monks over champions. The player had plenty of gold, monks could have stayed safe under castle or tower fire which converting any samurai which closed on the scorpions. Celts are best used to weaken an opponent in Feudal (Hoang) when they have infantry which is stronger than scouts and can run from everyone else and a strong wood eco bonus.

[@Slimurgical]

12:12 666 stone, that's satisfying ngl

[@pikapoo8796]

I hate this map. Because I always get raided to death when I have the middle

[@bringmebiscuits711]

gg

[@jacobmosovich]

What about high elo legends lol players who can pull off all these weird and wacky strats cause they have the APM to do it.

[@krystofmichajlovfrancisko8224]

Unfortunately those play exclusively META strats, except Viper and others, who joke around with out of the box ones

[@Augustus_Imperator]

1v1 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> team games

[@jn1mrgn]

Blue is Jewish therefore no eating boars.

[@supliiiiiieeeeees]

2 players

[@rainshadowband3161]

Must be my personal experience, but watching Celt player with minimal siege feels wrong.

[@chrisrussell1106]

LEL and first comment? Is it Christmas already? 🤣

[@rawwdi]

Dammit I'm 39 seconds late !

[@princess_gadz]

cbgb- celts be good bro