You Must Be Cheating! (Low Elo Legends)

[@alexandergannon7058]

I have a 50% win rate, so I've figured out my opponent cheats about 50% of the time

[@atillalorier7699]

And the 50% you loose your opponent doesn’t cheat?

[@zakunick1]

I took a lot of math in high school, and I can tell you that those numbers check out.

[@ANSELAbitsxb]

@@atillalorier7699 Its aoe2 not csgo lol

[@ihmpall]

@@atillalorier7699 life’s gonna be hard for you bud

[@hirvielain9013]

@@zakunick1 I took a lot of meth in high school, and I can't tell if those are numbers or what.

[@Fissan_Poulsen]

Getting accused of cheating when you are not cheating is the greatest compliment in the gaming world.

[@dazeen9591]

I have a pastebin of 500 people accusing me of cheating. And that's only from a 3 month time span. Gets old after a while. Also I keep getting banned from every server.

[@ElendilAOE]

Fr bro

[@im_cart8656]

Getting accused of smurfing when your actually horrible is slightly better

[@u3bertobt348]

The best is when someone adds you after the game and begins to scream because youre better xD

[@dazeen9591]

@@u3bertobt348 I add my teammates in League to scream at them because they're bad

[@mattblank9350]

im sure blue is REAL happy all his boy rage was captured in a T90 vid

[@nzmctk]

Can’t confirm for blue but I know Jones was laughing his arse off being accused of cheating 😂. Also very proud of being recognised as a LEL at long last 🤣

[@Lucky008aau]

@@nzmctk gg, Red. With that much gold, buy some food, go up to imp sooner, get upgrades, and pump cavalier from 6 stables.

[@IschmarVI]

@@Lucky008aau sums it up pretty nicely. Oftentimes it is not the most important to spend your resources wisely but more so to spend them to begin with. Even an inefficient unit is stronger than no unit at all. :p Also, Knights are almost always at least a reasonable choice because Knights.

[@RedShiftedAnthony]

What a confusing game. Red was doing so great, and then basically did NOTHING most of the game. And then Blue quit because he didn't like his opponent. My emotions are everywhere.

[@sralmendrita]

Yesterday i played against a such huge cheater! He hacked something and lowered my elo, i played really bad

[@sachan9081]

Not gonna lie, you got me in the first half

[@edn2674]

Fr man same thing happened to me

[@dnuffy525]

Bro I heard ripping bongs for the first 30 seconds of the game, means you win at life if you win the game

[@akapanuka4927]

Reminds me of a time when I was a kid playing AoE2. I had a semi-functional build order I used against my dad and he was so sure that I was cheating to get to feudal early, that he made my brother go into my room and watch me when we played out next match. My brother confirmed for him that I was not in fact, cheating 🤣

[@kompav5621]

That's hilarious

[@bf1701]

The cheating is so obvious, if you have the skill and expertise of a

[@krystofcisar469]

And if you defend their genuinely planned rush you are pro on smurfin account :D

[@IschmarVI]

@@krystofcisar469 yeah, their impeccably planned donjon rush where they drop three donjons next to your mill that you already abandoned five minutes ago 1111

[@dnuffy525]

I loved it yesterday a dude hard picked teutons and told me to wait till late game, then he was mad about the fact I didn't let him get to imperial age. At a certain point the game has to end, I waited until 1 hour and 8 minutes to attack him. His defense: 7 elite teutonic knights, 10 I upgraded spears and 5 rams. Which he sent into my ballista elephant army right up the middle in single file formations

[@HeXetic]

@19:00 "the scouting is very good" > 32 minutes in, still hasn't found the enemy's base

[@Hiram27]

The devs need to add auto scouting to villagers. 😂

[@supliiiiiieeeeees]

I want auto scout monks.

[@paraxova7029]

Lmaoo

[@ivansolodyankin6820]

@@supliiiiiieeeeees and auto pick up relics when near 11

[@carlsiouxfalls]

I do wish they'd add auto scouting to all scout cavalry. And I suppose eagle warriors for those civs without scout cavalry.

[@LilGamingYes]

@@carlsiouxfalls makes me think of Empire Earth (AoE basically, but less popular) where you could make any unit explore. Useful when someone didn't want to give up. Build 200 military and set them to explore, they'll auto-attack the enemy on sight. I'd say that was a bit too OP for scouting though, maybe it could work for scouts only but I'm not too sure about it... maybe if you could only auto-scout when on a passive stance.

[@amegabyte7986]

I learn so much more from the LEL games, and I like how T90 explains logic from both players. I was rooting for red from the start :D

[@perretecartago7470]

it's been a long time but i am glad to watch one of your videos again. When i watch low elo legends it feels like the meme of joey watching himself on the TV and i smile the same way

[@_jamessimmons]

I love how this was both so much fun to watch but also really hard. I was wanting red to make conqs or sell the gold to go up to imp to get trebs for ages. It is easier to know what to do when you're not in the moment tbf. Well done Jonessb

[@sleeplesshollow4216]

I like the chat because its like a live audience/talkshow host kind of thing for me where I can see reactions, but I admit chat often veers off-topic and doesn't always talk about the game.

[@FullOilBarrel]

LEL is much more interesting than pro games

[@vinniem8]

Its relatable but nothing beats the best of the best sometimes i'd say

[@Dorfjunge]

Yes, especially because it is not about microing. Who can click units the fastest to shoot or avoid arrows... so annoying. Different build orders and attack strategies, this is what the game is build for and that is what we see in LEL.

[@75353866]

These are hand picked lel games, a good potion of them is more boring than this.

[@mattiamerenda8121]

1000 and up has gotten really crazy good in the last 3-4 years

[@beagleplease8693]

@@Dorfjunge what exactly is different? one is tower rushing, one is going fast castle knights. Same strats you see in pro games, just done badly...

[@martinlysy]

The most awesome thing was those villagers of both players casually mining same gold.

[@38Miyaji]

30:20 I paused the video and I say I root for Red. He only needs to get his vils production up to speed (he has the TCs), mass ressources, keep his army where Blue is making his dungeon instead of moving it so far away every time, mass more of it with the better resources flow he'll have thanks to having more vils, and MAKE RAMS. With rams and a few knghts to protect them, he can push this back so easily. I don't know if he has a good access to gold, but if he has, and with enough vils, he could start massing conqs at the same time ro raid a little bit while he stops the push. I don't play online and I would probably be Low Elo too if I was, but watching all these videos clearly helps me see what Red can do to win. GO RED I hope you win *unpause the video* Edit : finished watching the video, let's go Red! Good one. Overall, very good job rebooming at places where resources were while getting pushed at his main base.

[@45DegreesSouth]

Watching that castle go down with those idle villagers nearby was painful

[@shino4242]

Its especially sad because he clearly knew the castle was being attacked because they killed the other ram! Guess he forgot that vils aren't aggro and wouldn't auto hit the other ram OR thought it'd take longer to kill the first ram so he looked away?

[@tommybear4458]

I do like at 34:55 when 90 just shows the vills sharing gold but don't mention it

[@TheOnyxJR]

4:24 Also me mowing the lawn. My parents have a creek that goes through the property, with a steep hill on the other side. I fell a few times.

[@666Leosch]

I think this strat is actually called "leisurly donjon stroll"

[@lukapaka]

lmao, so glad Bubba lost that

[@callmeswivelhips8229]

The "go up to Imp" phrase should be a part of the T90 sound pack

[@thomasbrand2650]

Honestly, I would love to see a community game and someone sends "how do you turn this on" "cheesesteak jimmy" into the chat 😂

[@treepotato9273]

when blue figures out you can build more than one TC he might stand a chance at climbing the ranks

[@bubbasbigblast8563]

RIP T90, taken from us too soon by a lawnmower related mishap...

[@zakunick1]

There's a an island in that creek with two memorials on it.

[@PhysicsNerd25]

24:25 who else was looking at that 2K gold bank and screaming GO UP TO IMP?

[@Sabermoose]

Blue is a known hacker on Minecraft! LMAO this is priceless!

[@Alnarra]

Yeah can confirm, after like 30 it all just stars breaking, you wake up and you're like "Shit how did I get... so tired... did that always hurt? "

[@bigbakaboon]

this is a good LEL showcase i think. You have the one player who just tower rushes, and while effective, doesn't know how to transfer out of it. And then you have the player who has better fundamentals, but they get tunnel vision/freeze/get frustrated. I mean red could have just built one siege ram and backed it up with his conq/calv and repelled all the donjons. But they sat on their resources all game sooooo Edit: Also i'll add i feel like spanish hard counter Sicilians. Since gunpowder units don't do bonus damage. And they are the gunpowder civ

[@_jajajaja_]

I was really going for blue the entire time until he started getting abusive. So glad red won. What a turn of events

[@MrRevCytosis]

I like not seeing "youtube stinky youtube haha" from chat so this is a 2000% upgrade.

[@TexanMiror2]

Blue had zero knowledge of what he was doing, but instantly knew their enemy was cheating for having a normal fast-castle time. What a genius. So glad he lost despite Reds refusal to make units. Having a rough day doesnt give an excuse to make someone elses day rough.

[@Th3UprightMan]

Would a random internet dweller calling you a cheater make your day rough?

[@MrMakintos]

Boy, world must be a hard place for you :D

[@HarryBalzak]

@@Th3UprightMan When people call me a hacker I take it as a compliment.

[@Bairrfhionn]

Tell me you don't play league of legends without telling me you don't play league of legends.

[@Th3UprightMan]

@@Bairrfhionn Hmmm. "I have a social life and have lost my virginity" would also do it, I guess.

[@xotl2780]

Dude! I love spectating low, mid, and high ELO games. I do it all the time. You can see both teams chat + signals, and there's been at least a few times now where one player accused another one of having the spectator on their side.

[@Duckman1616]

Weird how the players were like opposites. Red had great eco but bad military control, blue had great military pushes but horrible eco.

[@vot3r]

YESSS! Me and Jonessb have played most of our games on duo ranked I'm so proud of you brooo!! We were actually playing together when this went live! Called Jonesy Boy when we was on way home and I saw it was live! #lowELObros

[@vot3r]

I think the reason he is less aggressive is he normally booms whilst I go aggressive. For us this was a proper GG 👌 👏 So glad you recorded this made our night 😎

[@Binzob]

@@vot3r ah yes the classic 40 villager boom

[@YTYTYTY7]

I died when they were mining together 35:00 LOLLLL

[@Goatcha_M]

The way those trees get bigger when you start chopping them.

[@mrpereza4518]

-donjon donjon donjon +cav cav cav cav cav

[@TheMainCore]

Blue deserve to lose, what a bad character. Shame on him.

[@ANSELAbitsxb]

In all fairness red did have a spectator helping him.

[@IschmarVI]

@@ANSELAbitsxb where did you get that information?

[@DaddyMouse]

@@IschmarVI it was a joke lol and a reference to what t90 said in the video

[@IAmBael]

Red will easily get to 1k elo if he works on continued production in castle age onward. Such a solid start and kept expanding very well under pressure.

[@alexjeffrey3981]

and discovered the existence of rams!

[@shino4242]

Indeed. I've been getting more and more impressed with the relatively high up LEL. Often times they know how to get started and just don't know what to do. Like sometimes they'll execute a decent FC and then sit around going "...now what?". Or like you said where they are so relaxed about things that they'll only have like 1 production building per type of unit.You often see the spark of potential here and all they need is some momentum

[@joshuaheavyside7348]

Hmm I’m not sure. I’m confident I could beat red pretty easily but I get crushed every time I break around 850 ELO.

[@JohnLeePettimoreIII]

33:08 an Arrow Slit is *_VERY_* different than a Murder Hole. murder holes were placed in/at/above entryways and were used to fire upon, or dump substances on invaders at the entry of the fort/hold/keep/castle. arrow slits/arrow loops were placed typically in towers, but they were facing outward to allow firing at troops that were some distance from the walls.

[@NoraNoita]

Substances like Boiling Oil.

[@ApocolypseChild]

But the point he was making is that the slits around the sides of the castle are arrow slits, which he actually managed to be correct about. He also noted that he already knows they are different and distinct, simply that he's not aware of what those differences are.

[@ghousejetsfan]

On my life, I've never giggled more than @ 33:00

[@Mecknificent]

I am once again noting that I am happier without seeing the chat. Thank you

[@RaduP3]

same

[@Kai-p6b5r]

Same

[@PaulEmsley]

Same

[@archygrey9093]

I kinda prefer chat

[@Mecknificent]

@@archygrey9093 totally fair! Everyone's entitled to their own opinion.

[@ivanstrydom8417]

Murder holes are holes in the floor of the top towers, looking down, allowing you to drop stones and burning oil onto an attacker. Arrow slits are the vertical slits that ...allow you to fire arrows out of them (Very difficult to get a retaliatory arrow into such a slit). Thus Murder holes and arrow slits are completely different.

[@dembro27]

I wonder how many LEL games end with accusations of hacking! 🤔 Also, I actually like this CaptureAge a bit more! It's cleaner and more focused, especially the top center panel. I like all of the info in newer versions of CA, though, and the team game overlay is awesome. I just wish the 1v1 CA overlay looked more like this.

[@kindacruise]

actually gasped when that easily denied castle went up for blue

[@nickschaefer9320]

This is the first T90 vid I've seen in a while and I'm glad it was this one.

[@EvilNecroid]

5:50 thanx for uploading videos from heaven lol

[@Stp1974]

The worst thing about being accused of cheating is that it would make me want to beat that person even worse, which would ultimately probably make me lose.

[@NoStereo]

really glad the better person won, was rooting for them from the near start.

[@shino4242]

Indeed. As soon as the "cheater" comment happened I was like "I know who's side I'm taking. Don't lose to this kid"

[@indraallian6371]

I think Blue is used to winning with the Dunjon strat and didnt know about the spanish build bonus. So he thought wtf I should win this, and when he didnt he fell for the ever daunting thought. "If Im loosing my opponent MUST cheat" 🤣 Fun game! Well commented too! 😎 Oh and Arrowslits DO affect Dunjons as well as Towers sadly not Castles. Castles have Heated Shot 😜which is useless on this map.

[@adamcarter2979]

Heated shot is never wasted. I’ve seen galleys on land.

[@indraallian6371]

@@adamcarter2979 He he. Be sure to build a castle near it then😎

[@vincenzo2737]

We are all young, until some random teenager calls you "Sir." 😂

[@michaelwells2624]

I know this is an old vid, and my comment may likely get lost in the shuffle, but ive just recently found your channel and i am in love. i have been binging LEL and Aussie Drongo's Outback Octagon. Any chance of getting a little more AoE4 content? Kinda curious to know your opinion on the game too lol. I've been playing AoE against AI since the stone age of the first game, love each game for their similarities and differences

[@kadalora]

LOVE the salt hahahaha

[@greatcaledonianpenicillin5378]

Why do the trees get bigger when they are cut lol?

[@horbibooks9282]

If you find random goats on your lawn they can help you mowing it.

[@JohnLeePettimoreIII]

@t90 : you're only 29?? hahahaha... my *_youngest_* kid is older than you, and i have a *_grandson_* that's not much younger than you.

[@thetayz72]

Lmao Jones with the true Spanish RP, he has more gold than he can spend and he's still selling res to get more gold

[@samatsevens]

I like this overlay, it's got lots of info. Great game!

[@sylvianotley438]

Your brilliant!!! Best commentator ever!! 😂😂

[@MaartenvanHeek]

How is it possible that after all these years you still have life stories. Keep it up!

[@RJinks87]

Can ask is this AoE II definitive edition or the HD version that came out a few years prior

[@NoraNoita]

I really want to see Blue destroyed, I feel with Red on this one.

[@jordancambridge4106]

Bubba was toxic as hell. Dear god Bubba calm down.

[@Markell1991]

Really annoying how red didn't spend his resources. He had like 4k gold in castle age and wasn't churning out knights/conqs. He could have streamed them into blue's base and wrecked him.

[@ad3z10]

I'm wondering if he's using hotkeys, the opening was amazing but as soon as the game progressed beyond his starting eco all production just completelly stalled. The APM graph also matches that as he has incredibly high APM for a player who otherwise appears not to be doing much for most of the game.

[@Lucky008aau]

30:24, rooting for red. I float lots of resources once I get a couple TCs going. Elo rolls between 1000-1100. BTW, I'm 39, played the game when it came out in '99-'00, got back into it about 4 years ago thanks to you, T90. And note, I was my most physically fit at 35. I started triathlon training and lifting more weights at 31.

[@AlexVazco]

I'm so glad red actually won Lmao

[@minikawildflower]

Dude called me a cheater once because I had too many Pikemen ... as Byzantines

[@xander0901]

Hey T90, I just turned 31 and I can say the way your body feels while 30 is mostly built upon what you’ve done in your 20s. You definitely notice when you’re tired and it’s a bit harder to get away with bad habits. Late-night gaming sessions are not really possible without building up sleep in advance or accepting that you’ll feel like crap the next few days. I don’t really watch streams live anymore since I prefer watching to focused content, but maybe that’s just me

[@qwertyuiop32935]

As a 25 year old, this gives me hope. I’m getting back into working out and developing healthy life patterns. It’s difficult because I have bipolar II, so routine can be hard. I’m taking my health seriously now though 👍🏻

[@kooroshrostami27]

Well, T90 has spent most of his 20s sitting down watching and playing AOE 2, so the future looks bright I'd say. 😂👍

[@xander0901]

@@kooroshrostami27 It seems like he gets out every so often. He also likes eating salmon and chicken, so those are pretty healthy food options

[@albertomartinez8320]

Ok boomer

[@apan990]

@@albertomartinez8320 ok 'alberto'

[@SargonTheGrape]

Serjeants remind me a lot of the Norse infantry from AoM. I wish more games would play around with combat units being builders. It’s such a fun mechanic.

[@himabimdimwim]

You can't have a patch without us breaking stuff! -Microsuck

[@Mercury1600]

"red has now found blues base" said 10 minutes after he actually did

[@MegaMarclar]

don't worry about 30's bro. I'm 37 and remember talking about when this game came out on the bus back in school. all we had back then was goldeneye lol

[@KittenKatja]

In Minecraft Mini-game Servers in recent years, it is usually the hackers that hackusate to direct the attention of every other player onto an innocent player, when they spectate. It goes so ridiculous that even when the hacker is captured into a debate, they will no-brain the conversation into a hackusate match that makes them firmly believe that they're not the one blatantly hacking.

[@Drizztonian]

30:26 I've been rooting for red since the first donjon went down. Blue be actin cray-cray

[@iceefrags8770]

33:10 just FYI, murder holes and arrow slits are 2 very different things. murder holes, were holes in the ceiling typically under entryways or gates, and also underneath the crenelations where rocks and oil could be dropped through. arrow slits are thin vertical openings on the walls that allow a bow to fit through, but not much else, to protect against incoming arrows

[@BayWa4eva]

the way AoE2 works, murder holes would do nothing, however there are two different techs that do the effect of murder holes and that are battlements and machicolations (which is what you call murder holes below crennelations). technically crennelations is a teuton tech so we can't use something "below" it for other civs...

[@Mr.Wigglesworth]

Meanwhile on league it’s uncommon to go a game without your teammates telling you to “int your life and uninstall”

[@dexterfouche5220]

T90 you said you 29 I just turned 30 last week you made me feel old. hahaha

[@local9]

Currently you're in your LATE twenties, but soon you'll be in your EARLY thirties, you'll be young again.

[@KaraKobold]

the J in bubba's name stands for "jackass"

[@nzmctk]

To quote Jones after blue resigned “Lool”

[@Toonrick12]

You're Jones' friend?

[@nzmctk]

@@Toonrick12 yeah, he’s friends with my brother and we got him into aoe. Got the msg on our aoe chat with the screen shot of the chat then saw this a week later

[@varunmanjunath9123]

Blue just knows slow Donjon rush but doesn't know what to do later The only difference in the game was that Sergeants or pikemen cannot destroy Trebs under castles but Cavalier can.

[@5ilver42]

This is something people will not tell you, but after you turn 30, people just start respecting you in public. Every year after 30 you grow as a distinguished man, and for merely having existed for more than 3 decade people will listen and consider your input, even if it is really dumb and without merit. You become more and more respectable just by being yourself and continuing to live. No one tells you this, but it's the secret truth of manhood.

[@crazy9932]

Me at 34...yeah $#!+ gets real n fast buddy lol

[@kingrex1931]

I think Blue (BubbaJ) is the type of person that if he losses he assumes the other person is somehow cheating.

[@poyloos4834]

I really really hope blue’s name is a reference to the “FORTNITE OR PUBBA G” meme

[@charlesmarlowstanfield]

30:27 and absolutely rooting for red. Without question. Blue is kind of a nincompoop.

[@charlesmarlowstanfield]

.spolier prevention attempt. Thank goodness. Blue can go kick rocks.

[@jenzu4229]

So calling someone a hacker is a reason to deserve a loss? XD atleast blue isn't meta abusing and being stuck in 600 elo aka red

[@humblehive6502]

@@jenzu4229 are you blue?

[@ghousejetsfan]

I'm glad I have working eyes. The amount of times T90 calls Blue red and vice versa, makes me really dizzy

[@brads8143]

9:09 this is how purple is made

[@Lysalven]

This reminds me of that peculiar swiss player that lingers around 950 elo with like 3-4k games and occasionally calls cheats and blame his opponents for not following some made up rules of his like aging up, making archers etc

[@nivada94]

now we need to put those two against each other!

[@SCCH286]

Blue would benefit from the archer damage blacksmith upgrade, right?

[@jordansmith4040]

At first, I was excited for blue, but then I really just wanted Red to go imp and shut the donjons down.

[@1nguoixauxi2]

back in my day, we usually rush castle age at 19m, some even reached at 15m, and its pretty normal when u play with a team, one will focus on resource, one for defense, and one for attack, 2 teams of three and we have 3-5 hours game long, pretty normal anyway. I myself can rush castle age at 21m since its a bare minimum to play alone, its standard of +15 yrs ago.

[@808musubi]

What is the number above the Idle Villager icon?

[@FloosWorld_AoE]

Total resource value of military

[@denen404]

sheesh dude got ALL the goats rofl

[@Digibullet32]

hey t90 i was wondering if u have encountered any lol elo submissions that were clearly faked?

[@Dorfjunge]

On African Clearing I always have the problem that my fish traps don't work or stop working (playing with Malay). Even if i just have 1 ship and 1 trap per lake. I have this issue on NO OTHER map! Does anyone have a similar experience?

[@krystofcisar469]

I thought you can even dock it :D guess they are just too shallow.

[@Dorfjunge]

@@krystofcisar469 of course it would not work against a high level player, but it actually is a pretty good strategy. - to collect food you need to build a farm or dock anyway - malay docks have super far vision - Malay docks can shoot arrows and er therefore cheaper towers (no stone cost) - you can boom fast because can make boats for fishing instead of using villager - malay fish traps are more efficient than farming It's not perfect but it works wellexcept for the fact that the fishtraps always stop working after a while.

[@micahbonewell5994]

Does arrowslits apply to donjons?

[@greatcaledonianpenicillin5378]

I'm happy with how this game turned out and who won. Great game.

[@PolskiHetzen]

I hate players like Bubba. If you beat them, you got lucky or are a cheater. If they win, they’re cocky and say shit like “easy”.