Table Saw Basics for Beginners

[@bernieinsaudi]

Get that blade height just above the thickness of the material being cut! Reduces the risk of kick back considerably…

[@DeafMaker]

Agreed, you can raise the height of the knife

[@jimmyreuben6919]

Took the words ut of my mouth. I was thinking that straight away

[@woodshopblocksandpens]

Thought exactly the same as soon as I see the first cut. A lot safe to have the blade a mm or two above the thickness of the wood.

[@VoodooMike]

Yep. Get that blade down!

[@21labrador]

Do you need to check the blade is at 90 degrees like on a mitre saw?

[@phildavies3664]

The Promo Code still works on top of their offer in 2024. Fantastic thank you.

[@mrwood4557]

Perfect timing, been watching your videos from the start. Just had my first table saw delivered today.

[@DuceDesigns]

I had this saw for a year and mine was just terrible. Fell out of square after pretty much every cut, because it kicks like a donkey when you start it up. The chatter was awful, even when cutting thin sheet materials, and the non-standard mitre slots are a real niggle too. Let's not even mention that the arbour is 25.4mm meaning you either need reducer rings for most blade brands (Saxton do a line with the right sized hole though) or are stuck with the expensive evolution ones. The worst thing is, this saw was only £220 when I bought mine just over a year ago, evolution have jacked it nip to £350 now! After all that, just want to say this was a great video & I'm really enjoying working my way through your others. Edited to add: I would never wear gloves when using power tools, I'd rather lose a finger than an arm.

[@cuebj]

Thanks for this. Useful reminder of my experience with Evolution gear after I began to soften towards this. Their quality control must be all over the place such that lucky owners swear by them while unlucky folk like you and me swear at them. They told me to return mine as not fixable the night after I bought it and found I couldn't even set it up (assembly fault at factory). Unused. Screwfix Erbauer similar

[@TheAimb0t]

Thanks for your work making this video. I just wanna say: please don´t wear gloves while working with rotating tools like saws, routers or a drillpress. If the tool grabs on your glove, your hand will end up in the sawblade or drill. It´s just not worth loosing a finger or more. :)

[@boudewijnNL]

Agree, you'll rather have a shallow cut in your finger than get the glove sucked in and your entire finger or hand cut off.

[@tonkatoy200]

I often see this with youtubers, it's unbelievably daft!

[@interdiction2]

I was just thinking the exact same thing. I wear gloves when handling timber but always take them off if using power tools with rotating cutters. The extra "protection" turns into a bigger risk.

[@Berquin]

I fully agree.

[@richedu]

Agree never wear gloves, long sleeves, anything can catch the blade

[@Stebo1212]

Being uses these for YEARS never had a issue Rage 5 is amazing i pretty much have the set of Evo there blades are just perfection with everything it can cut great video

[@cma697307]

To reduce the chance of kickback, the blade should only be just slightly higher than the stock. That way you are reducing the amount of friction also.

[@christianpetersen1782]

Stuart, I’m pleased you spoke at length re the dangers of kick back. If you multiply the circumference of the blade by the rpm you’ll get the speed of each of those blade teeth. You can then convert that speed to mph. You’ll then realise that each tooth moves literally, close to 100 mph. If one of those teeth at the back of the blade, which of course is about to travel towards you, catch the edge of the wood pinched tight between it and the fence it will shoot that wood back towards you close to 100 mph. This is way too fast for anyone to react and can cause such a horrible instantaneous injury you’ll wished you had never set eyes on a table saw. It only needs to happen once! This is in addition to other dangers like inadvertently cutting off a finger or being tempted to use the saw without the blade guard. For me I’d rather have full control with a much safer track saw and MFT even if it takes a few minutes longer. Working toward keeping out of hospital always seemed a good idea to me!

[@ianshepherd917]

Just a tip! You may notice that if you use the right side extending table (the narrow one) the LHS guide (the one with the measuring rule) is longer than the right hand side - the only stop for the RHS is the plastic bung inside the extrusion which pulls out (tried adhesive - but not good) & does not prevent pulling the extending part too far and out of the roller guides of the fixed table! There is no proper fixed stop. A small piece of 6mm alumimium was cut out fit inside the extrusion (about 25mm sq) . A tapped hole in the stop piece allows a 5mm machine screw to be inserted through the extrusion - works great!

[@tommydrain6582]

Loved the video and all the info that you went through, so much so that I bought the saw. Well I hot the 5s. I have to say that I found the assembly instructions woeful and the figure drawings in them inaccurate. It took me just over 2 hours to get the leg assembly complete. Now that it is, I have to say that I'm very impressed with it and the folding mechanism.

[@davewright9312]

Have to say the same about the assembly... Also the saw on the stand doesn't go through a standard width door so it has to go through sideways

[@dannybaker2763]

Yet another quality and highly informative video. I bought my (very cheap, like cheeeeeeeeaaaaaaap) table saw at the beginning the pandemic and then wood prices went throught the damn roof so I haven't used it yet. Your video has given me a very good idea of what I am in for. Cheers Stu.

[@MS-yy2dh]

Another interesting video. I’ve been thinking of getting a table saw and already have a few Evolution tools - they seem quite good, although I note the motors are often physically larger than other makes, which can be an issue, say for a circular saw. I am not sure you have set the blade correctly in your video. My understanding has always been that the blade should be set as low as possible in these things. Also, I would not myself wear gloves when operating most types of power tools. I served an apprenticeship as a toolmaker back in the 1970s (using lathes, millers, shapers, surface grinders, etc) and things like gloves, loose clothing, long hair and even jewellery were thought hazardous.

[@1steelcobra]

Avoid it, look for one with a rack and pinion fence like Skil's in that price range instead. And you're right about blade height, you should set it so that the tooth at the apex is just above the height of the workpiece.

[@oldandbroken]

So glad you finally got your table saw. I know you have been wanting one for a while now. Well done evolution for stepping up not only with the saw but also the generous discount offered. Well done proper DIY!!

[@johnodonnell3539]

Hi, is the evolution table saw any good , when you worked on lettered form work you mentioned the saw was out of action !!! , regards john

[@sygad1]

good tip about not using the mitre sled and fence together, cheers for that

[@paullynch9376]

Thank you for unbiased content. I did tike a second take when you were tightening up the blade though. If there was to be a slip I shudder to think of the potential injury you could receive. Might be an idea to cover the top of the blade. Keep up the fine content.

[@tonkatoy200]

Yeah, he might get a cut on his finger, dunno how he will recover from that

[@uktony1525]

Stuart, thank you for this video. I bought the same saw three years ago and it is still boxed as I did not have the confidence to use it. Your video has given me the confidence to open the box, assemble the saw and use it safely.

[@negotiableaffections]

I tend to watch 'safety & the tablesaw' videos whenever I spot one. I know all the pros & cons by now, BUT 'knowing isn't doing!' - A refresher always serves as a warning to NEVER get complacent about this [or any other] piece of equipment. We all dream of glorious SawStop machines; [not forgetting the replacement of the whole carriage section, should the dang thing get triggered] but then have to settle for more reasonably priced equipment. Knowing the risks AND remembering them is all we have, and hopefully, all our fingers & thumbs. Even the great DiResta made a mistake once!

[@bland_lover]

You got me hooked! I've just ordered one. Hopefully, it should be arriving tomorrow.

[@Hand-i-Craft]

Stu I love your videos and this is a great introduction to folk considering stepping into the world of table saws. I have the same saw and used it for three years now. Would you consider doing a follow up video with additional tips? It might be worth including the auxiliary fence and when it should be used. My train of thought is for machined sheet goods like you used in this video then the full length fence is fine, but I use the auxiliary fence up to half way along the blade for any timber products as it helps to alleviate the pinch effect you referenced in the kickback section. Keep up the great work, really looking forward to seeing what becomes of the additional garden land you bought 😀😀👍👍

[@kwesip6267]

I love your explanations. I don’t know why, but I just get it more.

[@moosetron82]

Hi I really enjoy your videos and watch regularly but, can I just say.... Blade height! I've always been told and understood that you should only have 1 saw tooth tip exposed eg 5mm above the thickness of the material, this also helps eliminate kick back. Adjusting the riving knife height according to hold the blade guard.

[@DuceDesigns]

A problem with this saw is the blade guard forces the minimum blade height to be about where it's set to in the video. It pivots on a bolt right at the back and actually covers about 15mm below the bolt point.

[@moosetron82]

@@DuceDesigns ah fair enough, that makes sense, just thought I would mention it just incase.

[@DeafMaker]

@@DuceDesigns you can actually raise the height of the knife, the blade doesn't stick up too high.

[@DuceDesigns]

@@DeafMaker maybe (I hope!) they've changed the design of the guard for newer models but on mine the position of the pivot point meant that even with the riving knife in its highest position the blade had to have a minimum of about 30mm exposed before I could have 9mm MDF able to pass under both the front and back of the guard without catching on one or the other.

[@neilmacdonaldfilm]

I've had this model of Saw for over 2 years, it's ok for what it is, I changed the blade for a better quality one. The design of the guard/extractor, while being very good at extracting dust etc, does not allow you to put the saw blade down far enough to maintain a safe working blade height when cutting thin material. Also the knob for adjusting/removing the guard is on the right hand side which hits the fence when cutting narrow strips. The plastic pad surrounding the blade is very thin and bends slightly when cutting certain widths. Despite these drawbacks I would buy it again though, it folds away into a small size and is powerful enough for most jobs around the home, I cut 100mm Oak Newel posts with it for example. Watch out when you start it up though, since small pieces of wood that drop to the bottom of the plastic Saw Well, will move when you fold the machine up, then on start up they are fired out of the machine at high speed. It's a Table Saw, needs to be treated with respect every time you use it.

[@markrowland5393]

Excellent video. Thanks.

[@anthonyb8208]

Long awaited comment Stuart, but I got my own Evolution Rage 5s today. Just watching your safety tips again then go out and put it together.

[@richardstamper5630]

Great instructional video. I have this saw and I find the fence is always out of true. If the platform had measurements all over it then it might make it easier to align.

[@EntropiaGuitars]

I had the lower grade version of this, the Fury 5-S. I built my home with it, but had to get rid of it eventually as the deflection on the fence with it being only secured on one side was far too much. Upgraded to a Dewalt DW7485 with the rack and pinion fence and it's much more accurate.

[@MrPrincess75]

Very good explanation.

[@radharcanna]

I knew nothing about table saws but now I do. An extremely useful high quality video. Keep them coming.

[@ranyalbegwein7470]

That was very fun to watch! Thank you very much!

[@KMvrtr]

Standard MDF for outdoor use? That won't last very long I suppose.

[@esskayrepairrestoration8265]

Had this saw for a number of years but upgraded recently to a small cabinet saw. It was good enough for carpentry work but I struggled to get it to maintain accuracy for any kind of furniture joinery, just too much slop overall. Also frustrated the mitre slots weren't standard.

[@kanedNunable]

feather board can help. i have the dewalt and it seems pretty accurate for me. also use good blades, freud etc make a huge difference

[@DeafMaker]

What saw did you get?

[@esskayrepairrestoration8265]

@@DeafMaker The 8” saw from Axminster. I’m not cutting big pieces of timber so it works well for me. Solid table and decent fence and enough power for my needs. Also very good dust collection which was another of my beefs with the Evolution saw.

[@ANDY-we7mr]

HI WHAT A,BRILLIANT VIDEO 📹 THANKS FOR SHARING THAT INFORMATION VERY WELL EXPLAINED THANKS FOR SHARING THAT INFORMATION I JUST GOT A TITAN TABLE SAW SHE GAVE ME ONE LIKE YOU HAVE SHE GOT THEM MIXED UP SO WOULD YOU RECOMMEND DUST MASK ALL THE TIME WHEN USING THE SAW AND EAR PROTECTION AS WELL

[@nigel4425]

I have always been told never to stand directly behind the blade, that way, if you do get kick back, there is a chance that the flying projectile won't actually hit you but embed itself in the workshop wall instead. That and, as everybody else has said- Blade Height!

[@andrewsnowdon6435]

What you need to do is be in a position to push straight into the blade, akin to a hand saw. Pushing from off line is something done when you have mastered things.

[@dogbreath6974]

If your ripping a small piece of wood you can't help but stand behind the blade.

[@Rob-Eckert]

Should set the blade height about 1/2 tooth above the material being cut.

[@ultimatemunter]

Depends on the material and blade

[@grotekleum]

Nice informative video. Kick-back is serious, the wood is propelled at a goodly rate of knots and can do soft tissue damage or worse - I have the scar to prove it. Conventional wisdom says not to use any gloves when operating saws and the like as they can get caught and draw the hand into the blade, they also give a false sense of security and you lose tactile feedback that can warn you of any problem. Many woodworkers have the fence slightly angled away from the blade and not parallel, this prevents it sticking for whatever reason. It is recommend that the blade height should set so that the bottom of the gullet is just exposed above the wood - usually the manufacturer specifies the height as that; of course it depends on other factors too, such as material and rake of the blade. Generally, the lower the blade the less damage your hand will experience. I noted the saw rocked on its stand quite a bit, might be worth making some sort of stabilising gizmo - a concrete block or two on the cross rail might do it. I think probably the most important thing to do when using machinery is to be present all the time, and not let your mind wander to the football or whatever - that is when accidents happen. Thanks for sharing.

[@davidcurtis5398]

I've never seen a saw that small have a sliding table. very nice. Even larger panel saws don't come with one.

[@roykropper2239]

Saving up for the sawstop

[@jimlepeu577]

That little sliding table is a nice feature🤠✔️ My personal preference is not to wear gloves - I feel safer that way lol

[@andyhastings4034]

Learned a lot. Thank you

[@samdang5246]

Thank you for the video, great table saw.

[@egrootenboer]

Thank you for the video, great table saw, but I think I noticed the saw is a bit wobbly on the stand. I would also recommend not wearing gloves when using any kind of circular saw, it is considered dangerous.

[@Neil-Hanson67]

I own this particular saw and have used it for the passed two years, and for the price i think it's one of the best table saws out there, my only gripe with it, and this is just my opinion it should have an emergency stop paddle over the on/off switch, i have luckily found a chap that makes one for this model and it is brilliant, a small thing but it could save you from serious injury or worse.I also own the Evolution circular saw which again for the price is superb.

[@bigbunnyprojects10]

Totally agree, I have this table saw also and have the same retro fit on/off switch. Great work horse entry level saw.

[@richarddixon1401]

I own it too and really wish it had an emergency stop paddle - nearly had a serious incident last week with it. May I ask where you found your emergency stop paddle?

[@Neil-Hanson67]

@@richarddixon1401 Sent you a link.

[@gobalgremlin7768]

Hi just unboxed this saw . Would it be possible to send the link for the emergency stop paddle please. Many thanks in advance 👍

[@vkalvaitis]

mdf and moist place? Will it last a week?

[@bridgetcastle7102]

Top tip about fences! Did not know that!!

[@barbsdee3831]

Hi have you got a video on circular saws or would it be better for me to but a small electric saw to make a few things for the garden?

[@AJellySnakeRebel]

very nice bit of kit. However, as someone who is also from the UK, I understand the troubles going on. I think it high time we start introducing something along the lines of Cost's 14p to run per min, or something to that effect. Money is tight. I need to know where my money is really going. haha

[@keirwilliamson1274]

should your saw blade be set lower for that thickness board?

[@paulclohesy1377]

Thanks for the video, very helpful

[@ProperDIY]

Glad it was helpful!

[@TheWizza33]

Is it suitable to fit a parquet floor? Thank you 😊

[@oneflymanflies4924]

Great video and info but the only thing I was always taught was never to wear gloves when using a table saw or actually most workshop machinery or saws that spin.

[@johnporter8896]

Interested to know after a year, what you think now? I have the previous evolution saw and even after a replacement fence, both fences are bowed and never produce a straight cut. It makes 45 degree cuts for boxes very hard to do accurately

[@jeta1f35]

The achilles heal of most table saws is the quality/rigidity of the fence ..... you didn't really cover this ... please explain in more detail.You did explain how timber could be 'grabbed' but this is very much a function of how good the 'fence' system is in locking parallel to the direction of cut. Your videos are great, but this point is fundamental to table saw operation, please review this point.

[@adeh503]

Absolutely 100% agree, the fences on the cheap saws are terrible, very hard to set up straight if it doesn't clamp at both ends and annoyingly awkward to set the cut measurements

[@dwoodog]

In Canada/USA we call this style of saw a "job site saw" On it's own stand with wheels and can be easily brought to the job site. Very handy.

[@jasonhuskie988]

On construction sites it’s sometimes called the “Comp saw” since it was usually the leading cause of injury and workman’s compensation claims- at least as far as tool use goes.

[@robarnold9016]

Must say that the supplied instructions were next to useless for the build of the folding stand. However, I found an Evolution KZbin video which made it dead easy. Why they don’t just identify the link on the front of the instructions. If you’ve an engineering degree or you’re an astronaut you may not need the video 😂

[@MrSmid888]

Good video this, most of us have been there with full sheets of ply, no guard, trying to cut one in half 🤢two man job but still very very dangerous. Take no prisoners these saws 👍🏻 Thing is, as long as you only have the blade height set just enough to cut you’ve far more control and less chances of losing a fingertip. 👉🏻☝🏻👈🏻

[@jasongigg1146]

Hi could you please help me with advice on buying a table saw. I need a table saw that can be stored away as I will be working out side and the table saw will live in a 3/2 shed I was looking at either the black & decker 720 gp or the lumber jack with folding legs or the evolution 5/ s . What would you recommend please from Jason

[@brendangleeson9644]

Have exact same saw,locking the fence and keeping it parallel with the blade can be a bit of an issue

[@kanedNunable]

yeah, my dewalt has rack and pinion and seems worth the added cost as the fence is brilliant.

[@brento4148]

Thank you for this Stuart, just about to buy this saw. Just FYI, your code only gives 5% now! Evolution have done you in.

[@peteg9011]

Good video Stuart. I’ve even ordered some DEKTON ultimate comfort green gloves so I can pretend I’m as good at DIY as you. I wish!! 😂😂

[@micksjoinery666]

I've been looking at this one for a while, but there seems to be a bit of wobble when you use it. Was that the floor or the unit?

[@sorayagrace]

Thank you, very good video!!!!

[@MateyBoy82]

Do you use the small metal fence attachment that comes with the saw?

[@OliverCole95]

I'm looking at the Evolution R255PTS table saw from svrewfix because it's alittle cheaper and wondering if you think this is the same quality as this one before I buy and possibly save £20 or £30

[@andrewl9191]

If I've got a piece of 2'x4' ply and I want to narrow it down from 24"x48" to 18"x48", what's the best way to do this with a table saw? I've got a circular saw and I'm a bit more confident with that, but I'm curious if a table saw would be good for me to buy. For the limited amount I'm thinking of using it, I'm not sure it'll be worth it to buy a table saw.

[@ambo666]

Hello, any tips for sealing the MDF?. I know when I had some in my shed mildew growth took over as rain water seeped in. I brushed, bleached and sealed with pva and water but not good enough it seems.

[@優さん-n7m]

It really matters where we put the push stick since putting it at wrong place will cause the piece to move side ways as it moves forward. Also, there are push blocks. I wish more detail would be covered in some video about this tool.

[@colingoode3702]

So you finally got yourself a table saw. Same make as my mitre saw which I use a lot &, touch wood, has been reliable & the blade can cut almost anything including metal. Good vid as always.

[@barriehonour3897]

Hi Stuart, I m looking for a Sliding Mitre Saw, the motor is on its way out, ant recommendations- 240v

[@simonhinson9367]

Yet another informative video, very easy to understand an if followed makes a table a good safe addition to anyones tool kit. 👍🏻

[@worstuserever]

At last! I wonder how often you felt like caving and just buying one haha! Now looking forward to videos of you making jigs and accessories for it. I love using the table saw, so versatile and easy to make fine adjustments with test cuts. Nothing fancy for my first, a Lumberjack TS254SE, works well enough for my current skill level. It came with a rather silly riving knife design though, protruding well above blade height and with a laser guide on top! What on earth were they thinking? I cut a replacement from scrap metal that aligns properly. First shop build was a skate to move the saw around (eventually I'll replace the legs with a cabinet base on castors), then a basic sled - the king of TS accessories, now working on a big auxiliary fence and extensions to support sheet goods, doors etc.

[@g.o.4387]

I always doubt reviews when the item reviewed is gifted by the company that makes it. I think an honest and trustworthy review must be completely independent.

[@andrewhilton2167]

How would rate this table saw? I am thinking of investing in the same model you have but I'm not sure if the outlay would be a good a good investment at the moment.

[@ruaraidhmcdonald-walker9524]

Great video! Portable finger table. 😬

[@David.M.]

Very nice, thanks

[@thierryschaack5461]

Sorry for my bad englich.in my opinion, using gloves is very dangerous because saw can drag it. And your hand will follow...

[@pauldunne9437]

Was the close up done on a green screen 🤔

[@Quaker521]

Great video and lots of helpful information which will help with a possible future purchase. Thanks.

[@theCybershot123]

Surprized that you changed the blade without safety gloves on.

[@mikedeman5351]

Very useful video :)

[@HappyDaysNI]

I would have checked the blade alignment to the slots in the table top first, then lined the fence up to those too.

[@1steelcobra]

The only feature of the Evolution that's nice is the slider - but it has a crap fence, and doesn't accept a dado stack. Having an "only use the blade model it comes with" and a giant gap in the cheapo insert are also big red flags, especially with their claim it's a universal saw for metal cutting as well. Skil makes a far better saw that costs less and doesn't have the above flaws, though I'll admit that the dado's less of a concern in europe where they're banned. I'll note to that there is no "can" on the miter guage. Run the material against the fence, or with the miter guage, or another fixture like a crosscut sled. Never freehand cut. NEVER WEAR GLOVES! If your gloved hand goes in the fabric will be caught by the blade and potentially cause a far worse injury.

[@phonotd]

Your blade is set much too high Stuart, the teeth at the top of the blade should just about protrude through the wood being cut. The setting you are using will increase the chances of kickback happening. A rough guide would be to have one full tooth protruding through the timber to be cut.

[@DeafMaker]

You should have an attachment to add to the fence so you don't need to clamp a piece of wood. Also you only need a fence as far as the front of the blade, or just beyond the front of the blade, this reduces the risk of the wood pinching between the fence and blade for rip cuts and makes it easier to push through.

[@Ginwood]

Not even watched yet but I am gonna say 🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉 to the new table saw, been a long time coming... whoop whoop 😉

[@ProperDIY]

Thank you Simon!

[@ashleychambers7602]

I bought the Evolution R255 PTS from screwfix which is virtually the same saw and I’m really pleased with it and I found a guy on ETSY who 3D prints zero clearance plates for these saws and they fit perfectly.

[@AWBuilder]

Thankfully, MDF is not available where I live, have to use plywood.

[@lewisbrown51]

I bought a table saw out of Lidl - I'm a novice DIY'er... having done so though can't believe a tool of this ferocity can just be picked up by anyone for 80 odd quid.... I'm genuinely too scared to use it... aside from the kick back risk that big fast spinny blade right infront of you is terrifying... keep having visions of it coming off and going right through me... anyway, said table saw is now a table in the garage that happens to have a saw attached and is used to store drills on top of lol

[@TheCarpentersDaughterUK]

Sounds familiar 😆

[@DonMorte2]

Table saws really are game changers if you want to take that next step from beginner DIYer to advanced DIYer.

[@canedobrazil3209]

LIKE FROM BRAZIL

[@Lord-Panda2112]

Hi ​@Proper DIY, I've been looking at buying this model table saw for a while. Would you recommend it for a novice? I was keen as the fence is meant to remain square without much fuss. Given the price point, this is attractive. In your experience, is it accurate? TIA, L.P.

[@kathrynsimmons7298]

i bought that saw a while ago and found it really bad in every way nothing was square and the writhing knife was not in line with the blade avoid

[@howardfields1970]

I saw you using a dust extractor, have you done a video on it??

[@anonimushbosh]

Holy moly you can’t put MDF outside in the rain! Even if you weatherproof it by the time you’ve finished it’d’ve been cheaper & easier to use a different material.

[@ProperDIY]

Of course you can. I got it free from my local B&Q, I'll use it over the summer and it will go on the bonfire after that. Would you prefer me to spend £100 on a sheet of marine ply?

[@audigex]

Their "10% off if you shop direct" deal still leaves them about 10% *more* expensive than buying from other shops... what the hell, Evolution? How is it possibly more expensive for them to sell me the tools direct vs the price of the same tool elsewhere? £350 for this, £400 for the Bosch, or £440 for a DeWalt, it just doesn't seem like a contest tbh. I like Evolution for their Mitre saws, but honestly their prices are getting silly I think, their prices are comparable to the "contractor" grade tools when they're still selling hobbyist quality.

[@a5pin]

This is the way channel works mate, they can't sell cheaper than the retailers who buy their stock at discount. Why would they?

[@audigex]

​@@a5pin So they can sell to retailers at a discount (who then mark the price up for their own profit margin) and still make a profit despite there now being two profit margins on the product... but selling it directly with only one profit margin is impossible without a higher price? Who taught you maths?

[@a5pin]

@@audigex no you misunderstand, if they sold the product directly to the consumer for a cheaper price than the retailer sells to the consumer. The retailer would complain to the manufacturer as they are undercutting the channel through. So the manufacturer will usually ALWAYS price higher than retailers. If they weren't they wouldn't have any retailers, would they? They get around this by offering other value adds, like free blades etc. So the price is higher, but you might get something different or more value than you would at the retailer. Don't forget you would only buy one saw directly from the manufacturer, but the retailers buy in bulk of tens or hundreds.

[@audigex]

@@a5pin Okay, so my point stands... their "discount" is pointless because they're still more expensive than buying elsewhere. The mechanism for that is irrelevant: I don't care about their commercial agreements with Screwfix or whoever, that's irrelevant to me - what matters to me is the fact that their "discounted" price is more expensive than their competitors, even sometimes for a better product

[@a5pin]

@@audigex you clearly don't work in commerce. Different retailers will discount to different levels, and make different margins. Complaining is the same as walking into Halfords and paying 20% more for anything they sell compared to another shop. Some people just don't care, they see a 10% discount and buy. Ever bought a Domino's pizza lol £20 for one Pizza or £30 for two. Still, a tenner more than a Pizza should be. It's part of most company's marketing strategies.

[@alpachino468]

My goodness, look at that stand wobble 😳

[@denisoriordan6739]

I have the Screwfix version of this saw. It’s a lovely accurate & quiet machine. A bit of fettling & it’s a serious bit of kit. That blade guard, though. Why in the hell is the securing bolt’s head on the fence side of the blade guard? Any cut narrower than 40mm (the width of 2 fingers *DANGER ZONE*), you have to take the guard off. And, if you’re cutting thin material, the riving knife height is slow & difficult to adjust, so the front of the blade guard doesn’t pop up like it did on Ian around 8:50 in the video. (You need to raise the riving knife up, so the front of the guard stays on the table). Only had it a week, pleased enough, but I’m well experienced with table saws.

[@cindyharrison4191]

I was shooting hoping you were going to review the aldi table top 8" saw I've just ordered 😏

[@terrytopliss9506]

Also try not to put damp timber through the tablesaw

[@adeh503]

That blade is way too high, you're only adding to the risk of kick back

[@grandmastermomo]

Hey Evolution. I dont own a table saw! I DONT OWN ONE! thankyou