Tabletop Jocks: Lord Xander vs Neyith vs Go-Shintai vs Kinnan | MTG Commander Gameplay episode 23

[@NoGloveNoLove32]

"I'm gonna play mid-power Kinnan" - Higher MLK: "Somebody told a lie"

[@twi1ightknight]

What does he think MID means 🤣

[@GhoulsNBools]

"Mid power" is just the title of the deck in this case. It's an inside joke from a past play on playing with power

[@SaberXIII13]

Right dude brought a CEDH deck to a cookout lolz

[@TabletopJocks]

@SaberXIII13 🤣🤣🤣

[@justseewut1tdoo12]

When one person brings a power 9/10 to a game of power 7's

[@hip5702]

9/10? That's a 10/10 A-tier

[@Mikearcana777]

"Mid tier kinnan".. lol

[@marcthemerc23]

Once I saw Higher was playing Kinnan, I knew it was going to be rough. 😂 I seriously love the cookout games though. You can feel all the positive vibes in these videos and it’s awesome. 👏 👏 👏

[@lanevisual]

At 7:50 Anyone missed the points that Lands are still colorless permanents? The only have a color Identity which is important for commader. It has only protection from white when it came to the board.

[@LzyBn1987]

Came here looking for this comment. Not alone

[@mclovin4073]

I to enjoy making my own rules so my creatures are busted

[@SupaBeluga]

Didn't finish the video yet but headed down here to make sure this was here! Cheers lol

[@hodlsage8968]

Correct and as lands are colorless, however Kannushi does not have pro colorless, as colorless is NOT a color... What was worse for me, happened the second game. Top on the battlefield and never popped!!

[@TheDownSmasher]

empty-shrine kannushi doesnt get protection from the colors of your lands since lands technically dont have a color

[@damonlouis6536]

these are the kind of games where you tell them they won and the three other players keep playing. It would of been nice to see the other decks play

[@screebb]

Bless these people for letting Higher play Kinnan

[@egreenwood1117]

When someone says "my deck is a 7".... This is what you get. Lol fan of the content

[@sunni.iverson]

That awkward moment cEDH Kinnan drops on the table with some power level 7’s haha

[@DiscardatRandom]

You can’t make a bad kinnan

[@MisterMazoku]

"I can't be mad at that" SHIIIIID I can. Homie came in hot complaining about Xander out of the gate, then was "worried" about viscera seer after that wild turn one. COMMANDER in twice in less than 30 minutes. My man's came in hotter than the US military on a third world county with "yellow cake:" But it turned out they were talking about pound cake LOOOOL

[@Hemlocker]

Pretty much all the cookout episodes have been awesome. And any episode with Higher is bound to be a great one

[@evanskates92]

Higher plays like his whole family’s life is on the line lol. Straight business.

[@KaiSenko]

was there a rule 0 prior? lmao, just seemed like Alex played the most cedh and everyone else was chillin

[@Tremulantone]

Yeah that's borderline cEDH if not cEDH. Don't know if he's got all the fast mana but we did see chrome mox turn 1. GG. I'm jealous though, the vibes seemed good AF and so did that food.

[@Dark-Pikachu1]

@@Tremulantone joe plays mana crypt

[@phinneas8052]

These cookout games have been a blast to watch. A little sad that nobody got to play in the last two games while one person played with themself, but I can't wait to see what you do next.

[@fayeturnerjohnson8236]

Thank you so much my wonderful son for the shoutout for "this ebony tongue!" I really enjoyed the Cookout!!!

[@mitchellalonso3820]

REPRESENTATION MATTERS 💯

[@TabletopJocks]

Damn right!!! 🙌🏾🫶🏾✊🏾

[@gragrim]

"Midpower Kennan"

[@derekgorlewski7870]

Kinnan is one of the strongest, and most consistent commanders in the format... CEDH, or otherwise. At a ridiculously low cost of 2 mana, and the oversaturation of free/1 mana rocks/dorks in today's meta, stax is one of the only archetypes that can keep that deck in check, sometimes. i genuinely feel the only way to build a "fair" Kinnan deck, is to include only lands as mana producing permanents, much like the only to build a "fair" chulane deck is one with no creatures, lol. Now, as someone who runs Kinnan as an elfball commander (for a 2 mana "mirari's wake effect" in the command zone), i will readily admit that It's really fun to pilot, but recognize that it's not so much fun when he's on the opposing side of the field.

[@ModAnonMTG]

The cookout games are some of my favorite, love the huge happy energy y'all have and honestly there's something really nice about seeing people play Magic outside

[@ModAnonMTG]

12 minutes in, Alex, this shit is hateful 🤣😭😭😭😭

[@Tremulantone]

@@ModAnonMTG I know right? Would've thought he was on YOUR show. 😆😆 I also 100% agree with the outdoor energy.

[@voidprism_studios666]

Sunshine and kicking ass 😂

[@ghost64626]

My boy Alex aka Higher bringing the pain!!!

[@vjredline9242]

Higher one of those people that never gets invited back to a pod lmao

[@d4rksolitude]

Oh yays! No one else got to play except the cedh deck lol. Hate to see it.

[@benjaminkaye5119]

Great outro , really feeling the love y’all have for the game and each other!

[@benjaminkaye5119]

This was insane , some fast games. The fast mana is insane in kinan, wow. Catch y’all on the flippity and keep up the great work y’all

[@jcoDefender]

We need some more deck balancing

[@jonlamoreaux2228]

i removed all the 0 drop fast mana from my kinnan deck and it still dominates every commander game i pull it out at. a 2 mana mana doubler in the command zone is just ridonculous.

[@jackofhearts7509]

You guys make some great content for those that love the boujie powerful side of Commander 💪 Not my vibe but I appreciate the representation. Too many players stick to comfort when there's all kinds of degeneracy to sink your teeth into to experience the game in different ways.

[@makeout-hill]

08:00 just fyi lands do not have colours so don’t count

[@Mattthecricketbat1]

Came here to say this

[@wanny225]

also sanctum of stone fangs shouldn't have triggered the first time in the second game

[@joshuapardee4901]

Great video, Joe! Hope you keep doing these videos! Maybe next time ban Kinnan first!

[@kidflashjl5502]

im confused cause lands are declared colorless so would empty-shrine Kannushi get protection from the lands?

[@IanMeighan01]

You are right

[@cha0sr31gn8]

Awesome game gg guys, damn kinnan cannon!!!

[@williamisbister9668]

This is exactly why I don't play with or against Kinnen 🤣🤣🤣 so broken

[@NoodIndigo]

was just thinking "damn where are the niggas that play MTG" and get this recommended. great video

[@simonskews-poole1364]

It's kinda nice watching Joe get dumpstered for once, instead of the other way around.

[@hodlsage8968]

I had to watch someone with a Top out and not even use it !!! I was yelling at my phone, POP the dang TOP!!! So sad to watch someone put a card in a deck, because it's a good card and not use it right. The advantage he could of had might have changed the game. Good to see a Playing with Power member show the difference between EDH and cEDH. Good times!!

[@TropicPigeon]

these ain't the same kinda deck powers by a long shot!... and this was after the turn 0 conversation??

[@jasonballantyne3021]

Yup. The level of violence was agreed to. And everyone was really excited to get a game in with Higher. Check out the Moxfield links, the decks aren’t that far off, we don’t think. Appreciate you hangin with us!

[@nicholaschun5918]

Love the show, but just a side note: at 8:08, lands are colorless, so the Lord wouldn't have protection at the time it was cast around turn 2.

[@jasonballantyne3021]

Gotcha. Thank you for tip. Appreciate it!

[@nicholaschun5918]

@@jasonballantyne3021 no prob. Great game!

[@TheBizzerker]

Lands have "color identity" for commander but no actual color, right?

[@nicholaschun5918]

@@TheBizzerker I believe that's correct, yes. Lands have color identity based on the color of mana they produce, but they have no CMC to determine their color, and are considered colorless permanents, with the exception of Dryad Arbor.

[@BertFromOhio]

I've seen a lot of your cookout episodes, and I fucking love them. I love this channel and I love the community you're making. But Joe, have you thought about reaching out to the 3 Black Halflings to do a one-shot? I think you guys would hit it off :)

[@cmich7979]

Love Tabletop Jocks, but on this series of episodes I've been wondering, that table in the background - are our other friends not in 'this' episode playing games too? Or are they just eating lol

[@OmegaMTG]

Loved this series. Glad you are doing it again every year. Thank you Joe & crew.

[@jasonballantyne3021]

You’re welcome! Thank you for hanging with us!

[@TheBagwell269]

That was amazing! I love seeing random 15 minute quick games. My personal favorite commander is Liesa, shroud of dusk and if my play group doesn't keep me locked down I can sometimes pop off and it's great to see someone else causing quick game chaos!

[@Fyriaan]

Well that was 'fun'. Personally not a fan of such high lvl decks but to each their own.

[@lightfut]

Damn, that was ruthless

[@WhoTFareyou2]

That Dragon shield add was a thing of art

[@jasonballantyne3021]

Thank you! Hoping to bring more comedy content to y’all soon!

[@samuelthompson6277]

Great episode, love your content, just for future reference, lands are colorless and wouldn't count towards Empty Shrine Kannushi's protection

[@jasonballantyne3021]

Appreciate you! Noted for next time. It was the last game of a looonnnggg day

[@saito_ruiz]

Damn, and I wanted to see neyith do its thing 😂

[@didupaytheone2678]

U guys sure not playing cedh here,off the jump someone almost deck ,chill out lol ,love to see it . Talking to u higher

[@professortoketcg]

Aye bro is y’all ever start playing metazoo ima need me one of them invites 💪🏾💪🏾

[@kj.virtuoso]

Lol the jeopardy beat drop. we need more moments like these @20:55 😆

[@jasonballantyne3021]

😂

[@theveryaveragegamer2583]

I totally get you all rule zero in violence and I respect that. The only reason I ask you to consider closer power levels, is because how much potential I believe your channel has. Closer games are generally speaking more entertaining.

[@TabletopJocks]

There are SO many ways to put together a commander deck. The randomness of getting exactly what you need at the right time is a probability in every deck as there are 99 cards to get. Sometimes you draw that crazy hand and no one has a response. That’s how games work, it happens. I’ve literally played a precon against tuned decks and beat them. Sometimes you get lucky, that’s the name of the game. I’m sure you’ve experienced this before whether you were on the giving or the receiving end of a lucky draw.

[@mclovin4073]

Since when do lands have a color? They have no mana pips, lands have always been colorless

[@twoneraps3352]

that creature doesn't give protection from the colors of your lands bc lands don't have color

[@littlebitedifferent]

Would have scooped after that turn one kinnan play. That's just fucked. Lol.

[@amycheek6114]

I SPECIFICALLY made a deck called "F*** Shrines." Would definitely murder the Go-Shintai deck first. 😂

[@WALABOOSH]

Watching a couple precon level decks and players that don't know what cards do getting shreked is a but rough.

[@zackwilcox3183]

Man that first game was such a bore. When you just lie and pull up with your CEDH deck turn one mox , priest , consecrated sphinx etc soon after. We all know this type of player , would not play casuals with them from that point on lmfao.

[@thenightangel05]

Higher I continue to love watching you play magic, keep it up!

[@twoneraps3352]

how out of 99 cards does Joe get manacrypt like every game

[@TabletopJocks]

I run exactly 99 mana crypts in all of my decks.

[@twoneraps3352]

@@TabletopJocks 🤣 nah but seriously

[@TabletopJocks]

Luck I guess. I mean I run it in most of my decks. I present a cut. If it’s in my hand I’m gonna keep it because it’s a good card. I’m curious of the statistics of it though. I just play the game with my homies, not too worried about anything else. If you wanna do the math there are a lot of episodes to go through! Have fun!

[@twoneraps3352]

@@TabletopJocks i mean I don't gotta do the math you get it every time. there's only so many things that that could mean. but I'm not tryna argue. you enjoy playing the way you do so congrats. also we should get a rematch I wanna see that lord Xander deck in action

[@TabletopJocks]

In every episode ever I get mana crypt? Ok 🤣

[@Rafeki97]

How many games did you play during this cookout?

[@TabletopJocks]

A total of 4 episodes!

[@jasonballantyne3021]

Well, kinda 5? This episode was a 2-for-1. Cookout ‘23 we’ll be starting earlier so we can get way more games in!

[@zacmarsh9091]

Damn higher, gotta love the way you build decks but you need to find some chill sir... but in all seriousness I am LOVING these cookout episodes! Awesome environment amazing content and top notch game play well done team.

[@jasonballantyne3021]

Thank you so much! I wish we woulda been rolling cameras for it, but just as we sat down Higher looked Lexi in the eyes and promised her Xander would never leave the command zone. He’s a man of his word!

[@zacmarsh9091]

@@jasonballantyne3021 omg that's f#*king Golden! Wish you guys did a new Zealand episode. I'd fully host and put a hangi on for the feed!

[@jasonballantyne3021]

@@zacmarsh9091 I will look into this! I got a friends in NZ I gotta see!

[@geromesilva1262]

Play"n with power y'all...way to go Alex!!!

[@JulieGeorgeComedy]

🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@MrRee-px1nz]

Loves the matches. Remix Jeopardy beat......my ring tone. Good fun vibe all around. Peace from the Indigenous Creatures paper fighting in Arizona🤘

[@georgecenteno2779]

So fun to watch a pub-stomp… I’ve never seen so many people in the comments proud to see it too but, then cuss out whoever they get pub-stomped against. This isn’t something that should be praised. That being said yuriko has commander ninjutsu. Lands are colorless. Still enjoyable to watch but a rule 0 before the game should be made to encourage players(especially new players) to do the same and not do the same behavior.

[@professortoketcg]

🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@colebogert1082]

Cassius vs higher?

[@jasonballantyne3021]

😯😯😯

[@IanMeighan01]

Hey fam I'm starting a channel with my Brother would love to join the cook out

[@Phantom-vo8jy]

Man went pure violence

[@robertmitchell3030]

Love the vibe of the cookout! Love the games and the energy of the group! Joe…amazing job!

[@Blacklodge_Willy]

That Maestros Charm could have taken out Kinnan right? Oh well GG

[@shimmeringseahorse9060]

The cookout series has been epic! Love the vibes that y'all been sending out ❤

[@jasonballantyne3021]

Thank you so much! This series was a goal for Joe and I from day 1. And it couldn’t have turned out better. Cookout ‘23 is just gonna get bigger! Thank you for hanging with us!

[@813R]

"Im playing mid-power kinnan, Oh No she's playing Lord Xander Im scared." Pops off on turn 3, bruh shut all the way up cuz all that was a lie.

[@GhoulsNBools]

"Mid power" is just the title of the deck. It's an inside joke from a past play on playing with power where another cast member was like, "what are we playing? Mid power??" in response to a play.

[@Chefdanny7]

I saw kinnan as the one of the commanders and surprised by that it was a 30 min video. I see that it is 2 games 🤣🤣🤣

[@HelplessHeroes]

This isn't intended with malice but the 4+ minutes of ads followed by one deck clearly not built for the table made me have to skip the rest of this one. Liking the channel in general

[@alessandrodellanno948]

I mean Xander from one side,Kinnan (almost)CEDH from the other ... Game seemed pretty unbalanced still liked the fact that you were playing my gruul lady. Ggwp all

[@lawrencemacnew415]

I'm so happy that you were finally able to fulfill your dream! Been a longtime follower and it warms my heart to see that you were finally able to do it.

[@jeffnorris211]

Good lawd Luna is thiccccc as the moon 🙌🏿

[@angelsantiago6090]

Can someone send me the link to Highter, kinnan deck list please and thank you

[@Spirited_skiing]

I’m assuming he’s playing the one that he maintains on the cEDH ddb, it’s a super fun deck to play!

[@TabletopJocks]

The links are in the bio now. For some reason they didn’t save yesterday when I uploaded them on the plane. Pesky airplane Wi-Fi lol. They are all there now, enjoy!

[@ChrisShepard8122]

Wow that deck is crazy!

[@xlifeiswarx]

I think its time Joe bust out cornrows.. thats just me though

[@aimfreakify]

Love the channel and gameplay. I'm relatively new to cmdr, so I was wondering why did Joe's Terror of the Peaks die when Void Winnoner ETB-ed? Sorry just want to learn

[@Pixel165]

Because Higher had copied the terror of the peak previously. When Void Winnower etb it triggered the copy of terror of the peak and the dmg was directed to the original.

[@aimfreakify]

@@Pixel165 OOOOOH! I totally missed it, thank you. Watching these games help me get better :)

[@mainevent154]

Really love what you guys are doing, and I love the inclusion of diversity. It’s make me feel there were other out there like me.

[@AvonofTalamh]

"I'll bop myself..." 😏 Damn, there's no such thing as a mid-power Kinnan! Absolute gas.

[@45iceking]

awesome video can't wait to see the next one

[@jasonballantyne3021]

Thank you Mason!

[@tjorgy7854]

Love the cookout plays Joe. ❤

[@didupaytheone2678]

Some of my favorite people in one place ,could be anyone game? Keep up the good work all ..

[@jasonballantyne3021]

Thank you so much! Appreciate the love!

[@didupaytheone2678]

@@jasonballantyne3021 for sure ,love cedh games like this lol, game two was sick let's go ,thank u Joe's mom ,good luck with the books

[@Kahlua_Lua]

Higher's such a bully lol

[@jasonballantyne3021]

Haha he warned us he was bringing it.

[@Grizzlyfate89]

I love you guys

[@jasonballantyne3021]

Thank you John! We do appreciate you hanging with us

[@alexmcgreen1664]

Although lands do count as permanents, they don't have a color. A card's color is defined by the symbols in the mana cost, and since lands have no mana cost, they are colorless.

[@jeremyblackheart]

I love you guys, but watching CEDH Kinnan body friendly decks is lame.

[@darkskirge4812]

lol mid range where?

[@Qub3rs]

Man, that was a speedrun... twice... great games...

[@kylesippel1709]

That dude who won 2 times gives me such creepy vibes.

[@Gingish]

Empty-Shrine Kannushi does not count your lands btw. Lands are 99% of time time colorless, Dryad Arbor is the only exception that comes to mind.

[@professortoketcg]

Not gone lie you are definitely a nice representation for me like you definitely showed me content creating can be some of the most fun you can have wit yo guys….

[@jasonballantyne3021]

When you have good people around you, good things happen. This day was some kind of the most fun we’ve had filming this show

[@professortoketcg]

@@jasonballantyne3021 see that’s dope man I wish you guys blessings and success 🤞🏾💪🏾

[@didupaytheone2678]

Alex wins game two even faster, bring the cedh rematch? Gg everyone dawn u Alex

[@didupaytheone2678]

Alex u monster, ping everyone to death with my card lol 17 minute game, run that sh back for game two

[@marljevincalabia3746]

How is that mid-power? hahahaha

[@WALABOOSH]

Someone tell that guy lands are colorless.

[@WALABOOSH]

Also the beginning of your main phase is not when you go to combat.

[@Turn2Ugin]

Gang gang