TTJ: CerberusArms v Crim v Xell v Blackneto | MTG Commander Gameplay episode 17

[@DSP1927]

Just for reference (and it may have made a difference) - the DAMAGE is what's rounded down from Heartless Hidetsugu, not the remaining life total...if you're at 41 life, you'd take 20 damage, going to 21.

[@AtticsTV]

Yup. The best way to remember it, is that its designed to never be able to kill anybody with the effect unless you have outside effects like a Dictate

[@zombiefiedchris]

Ok, thank you for pointing this out.

[@godsiresfollower7987]

also he was attacked by a 5/5 did not block, activated that but never took the 5 damage prior or after the ''half lost''so 37 should went to either 16 (take 5 then cut in half) or 14 (cut in half then take 5)

[@zombiefiedchris]

I was itching everytime they halved themselves lol.

[@pantherhaste4554]

Yeah I just watched him ask "is it rounded down?" and get told yes, then go from 15 to 7... which is incorrect. Feeling bad for these guys for taking extra damage 😢

[@Albondi]

On gatherer for Rings of Brighthearth it says "You can't pay 2 more than once for each time the triggered ability of Rings of Brighthearth resolves." So I think it was a mistake, great video nevertheless.

[@XellClips]

oh no you're right! im realizing the shorikai would have to be able to reactivate in order for the rings to copy it again so im bad at magic the gathering. ty for that!

[@rodrigoavila4133]

it also takes two mana to start the infinte colorless mana loop, you dont just get it when you resolve those two artifacts. which would leave them with a single blue and a treasure? i couldnt tell how many treasures were left at that point.

[@isaacsmith3998]

I was thinking that! The card says "when you play an activated ability", so rings is a triggered ability and cannot be used as an infinite mana sink. I think the table was also kind of skeptical but wanted the game to be over at that point.

[@XellClips]

@@isaacsmith3998 Yeah honestly I was just trying to wrap things up asap since I just cyc rifted and im in a dominant spot anyways oh well it be like that sometimes

[@RazorbladeDog]

I mean the game had to wrap up eventually, at least you got to argue one last time.

[@marcthemerc23]

Just got both kids to bed, and instantly get a new Tabletop Jocks. Looks like its magic time for Dad!

[@wayneleblanc1287]

Spoke to my soul lol

[@TheCoyote808]

Just watched this video, and every time I watch an episode of tabletop jocks the pods remind me of Saturday night magic back home. You guys are the awesome! Keep up the good work.

[@ssmmeeaarrggllee]

on the first turn D tapped Hidetsugu, he got hit by Trelasarra but y'all forgot to count it lol

[@Zachem72]

Came here to say that. Well spotted.

[@XellClips]

Thanks for having me on! Meekstone MVP >:D

[@TabletopJocks]

Omg that meekstone put in WORK!!! Always lovely to have you!!! 🥳🥳🥳

[@TheOGLionQueen]

I do believe he couldn't have cast the cyclonic rift, with void winnower out. The CMC of the card is even, the eldrazi sees the CMC not the alternate casting cost. It wouldn't have been able to be played/cast at all.

[@Lava_Spike]

There were some definitely troll plays from this lineup but it was hella fun to watch! I was wondering when this episode was coming out and I'm glad to have caught it!

[@kevinamielismael1680]

24:43 you could use pir's first ability to shuffle SDT to it's owner's library. it says "target player search for its partner" he's forced to look and shuffle his library

[@GOOMBAHx]

I appreciate the judge pause. This happens in my play group all the time. And making it known is very help

[@TheOGLionQueen]

I do believe he couldn't have cast the cyclonic rift, with void winnower out. The MCM of the card is even, the eldrazi sees the MCM not the alternate casting cost. It wouldn't have been able to be played/cast at all.

[@dilandoesitbetter9026]

Joe you have put together one of the best magic channels and always have the best guests. Not to mention you as a host just makes the show legendary 🤙🤙👏

[@rieanonorati66]

For future reference......when a spell is copied it is copied EXACTLY, meaning you get an exact copy of the spell that was cast, which includes bonus effects such as kicker, overload, "X" costs etc. and all targets for that copied spell. The only way to change the targets of the copy is for the text of the copying effect to state "you may choose new targets..."

[@SirRanSax]

I see Crim, I smash the like button!! Lol

[@jakecallen9164]

1:11:15 D could've also equipped Blade of Selves to the dockside to get a metric assload of treasures. Doesn't matter since Xell cyc rifted but it was an option too.

[@Draylock1287]

Always a good day when I have new Tabletop Jocks, and Crim is in this vid truly a great day.

[@chrisyourfriend59]

This is one of the best episodes, in my opinion. this group is awesome lol.

[@crawdaddy2004]

The Nitpicking Nerds, in their casual games, have a house rule that each player scries for how many people go before them (I.e., first player doesn’t scry, second player scries 1, third scries 2 and fourth scries 3).

[@mitchelljudson9237]

Crim is literally me "I didn't test this deck so we're all gonna find out the power level together"

[@Whiskyandrock]

The copied Cyclonic rift plus the regular rift should've made everyone return everything to their hands because all of Josh's opponents return everything and then the copy returns all of permanents except for Crim's to their owners hands so it should've been a completely neutral board

[@the8bitninja218]

The copy was never made, because the cost on Wandering Archaic was paid.

[@alexgutierrez5073]

Trelasarra is super underrated, so glad to see her kicking some butt! Great episode as always 💯 Joe if you need a 3rd flyer in there, go with Wall of Reverence, it’s a great blocker and I’ve gained so much life from it

[@jonsol8471]

Great episode!! 2 games!! Thanks!

[@helloiamjt]

D blood mooning himself, what a god

[@Rezzik]

I love multiple games in one episode, thanks Joe.

[@TabletopJocks]

Of course! The first game was so quick we had to run it back!

[@professortoketcg]

Joe I just wanna say as a black content creator myself you’re really the inspiration man….keep winning my dude…

[@FlynnApollo]

I personally wouldn’t advance the turns until the tutor is complete. It gives them insight to see what they should get based on the 3 turns it took to tutor.

[@TheDinkelist]

Happy we delivered on the SOUL RING!

[@BrodyTwice]

Love the channel Joe!! After all that toxic drama I'm happy you emerged the hero!

[@TabletopJocks]

Thank you for the love! Happy to have my friends here and having a blast!

[@tarekt8427]

sloppy game in many spots. However, this was still an awesome pod + game. lots of fun. what an edh game should flow like. all 4 decks hit scary highs. ...........Crim pretending in 2nd game he was weak but his board before the Cyclonic rift was about to pop off in a serious way.

[@tlwilson32]

So sloppy... felt like it was first time some of them had seen the cards before.

[@DMorfin11]

I clicked as soon as I saw Xell in the thumbnail. gonna be a good game

[@Qroe]

Possibly the funniest Op Agent in history.

[@benjaminkaye5119]

Trelassara was attacking and never dealt its combat damage that first attack. Crazy game

[@reedpadgett9056]

This is the type of magic I always strive to play! Love ya Joe! Hope to play with you one day

[@TabletopJocks]

Thanks for the love Reed! Definitely I’m down! Hop in our discord anytime if you’d like! www.patreon.com/tabletopjocks

[@rieanonorati66]

Also, since Crim copied the Cyclonic Rift, Xell should have bounced his nonland permanents as well, followed by Crim bouncing his for Xell's Rift.

[@shawnmciff1513]

once it was determined the overload would copy, he just paid the two... he had a million treasure anyway

[@dojodean]

Great game! Great folks! Thank you!

[@SnapquesterMage]

I'll have to use that one! "Negotiation is on the stack" 😅😂👍

[@weswilson9062]

absolutely love the channel! always excited to see new content! keep it up guys! mtg for life!

[@TabletopJocks]

Appreciate the love! We’ve got plenty in store!

[@craigjewell4720]

When the first game's turn 3 came along, I was wondering how you managed to milk over an hour out of this episode XD

[@MarvelOfRain]

39:50 Nothing says Commander like: "I tap my Savannah to cast Fountain of Renewal"

[@DocB_83]

10 min in and Rakdos has everyone’s life near single digits…. I feel like this may be a multiple game video. At this rate maybe 3-4!

[@screebb]

This rakdos may be my new favorite deck

[@lightyagami284]

Man that's crazy I just realized I'm not subscribed to this channel I clearly forgot to choose violence when watching great content

[@moipaz2290]

As a long-standing colts fan, I am offended that you pictured Manning in his traitor jersey.

[@cmich7979]

Greatest Pod

[@TheDwiest]

Yooooo Joe! Thanks for the Friday content.

[@miceinattic]

Such another great video!! Love a double game video! And love the authentic feel of the games. If you know you have no chance at winning. Go out swinging to the person who spited you first. Lol.

[@JulieGeorgeComedy]

such a great group of dudes! love this episode

[@TabletopJocks]

🥰🫶🏾🥰🫶🏾

[@commandergamer3337]

Joe, your response to heartless hidetsugu was hilarious!

[@chrisgoodhind1821]

Best guests! So much fun! Laughter all around

[@TabletopJocks]

Glad you had fun!!! ☺️☺️☺️

[@scoobg21]

Love the BushyBrow shirt 🔥

[@ajaydassani9931]

11/10/2020You can't pay  more than once for each time the triggered ability of Rings of Brighthearth resolves.

[@TopMuffin7]

When Joe played heliod's intervention and wandering archaic copied it Crim should have gotten another copy due to twinning staff

[@mibbzx1493]

Yup and i would’ve targeted blind obedience because that in combination with meekstone is nasty

[@benjaminkaye5119]

After drawing your deck , shorikai would have been tapped. But I am sure there was something in his entire deck hand lol. Keep up the great graphics and fun banter.

[@billiumdollars]

Triangle of Frieeeeendship!!!!

[@3N3MYKN1GHT]

Oh my God I know 3 people for once and I'm not pleasantly surprised by new episodes and new people to follow! Mtggoldfish's very own crimbo Xell, I saw him doing a bunch of broadcast stuff for League of legends also ALLCHAT and of course your boi the tabletop jock.

[@andrewschwab921]

Did Joe not resolve damage from his first moon dancer swing? Like I know he tapped the thing to make everyone lose half their life but like he still swung and D never blocked

[@Cerberusarms]

Yeah I took 1 damage for Moon Dancer’s first swing

[@Cerberusarms]

@@ArtEPersonal you’re right cause it’s a 2/2 with a counter due to essence warden. Mistakes were made, there’s a lot to keep track of and this was the second time I’d played my Rakdos deck which I think shows

[@ArtEPersonal]

@@Cerberusarms definitely not faulting :) it was fun to watch.... Always choose violence

[@creolekolbytv1252]

The red dragon in house of dragons I like to think is a Hellkite

[@brewersmagic2011]

Another absolutely killer episode Joe!!!!

[@didupaytheone2678]

Game two crim got that fast start, are we dead guys, these effects are great, city of ass killed me 😆

[@joehenderson1]

I always look forward to your content- keep up the great work Joe!!!

[@derboy995]

Wild animations & a banger video as always 🤙

[@Ricky.Pestana]

Love the shirt!! Gotta love ROCK LEE!

[@joshuahenry2138]

Yall been crushing these episodes. Love the edit and the guests. I'm hoping to see lynch on one day. I loved you together lol

[@TabletopJocks]

Thanks for the love and the support on the channel! That won’t happen. I’m here now. Been away from that other channel since October of last year! Having too much fun with my friends here! kzbin.info/www/bejne/qqDKlJRrrcmLftk articles.starcitygames.com/magic-the-gathering/multiple-sponsors-affiliates-drop-i-hate-your-deck-over-abuse-allegations-against-channels-creator/

[@brettdawson7236]

@@TabletopJocks what a slam dunk response "nah that ain't gonna happen. i like my friends. *drops link*" I love and respect Joe's move on that and I'm glad magic community can leave dude in the past.

[@ArtEPersonal]

@@brettdawson7236 there are other great creators besides joe as well, we don't need one that doesn't have values.

[@brettdawson7236]

@@ArtEPersonal you're so right! the mtg community especially on KZbin is so great we don't miss one creep leaving

[@tophimos]

"Oh did you guys pay for Smothering Tithe?" "NOOO!"

[@aurabullet4128]

That last turn of the Second game was an absolute mess of bad sequencing but still fun to watch none the less. Lol

[@unnecessarybasscovers9711]

Loved these games a lot Irks me a little how salty Dee gets at azorius after dominating in the first game. Like, just because you managed to play 4 eldrazi, the table doesnt need to let you swing with them, you gotta respect the stax

[@pantherhaste4554]

shoutouts to Josh lee kwai

[@TabletopJocks]

That’s the homie!

[@shottybeatssword]

The best Magic channel atm. No fancy animations or techno music

[@christopherarrowsmith7540]

Mana crypt is not a problem. It’s not a problem guys. Not a problem.

[@IamJoshEast]

Xell? That boi look and sound like my guy Josh Kim. The OG

[@TheBrothering]

Joe and I have the same sentiment towards smothering tithe..never paying for that crap, you can have the treasure 🤣

[@mibbzx1493]

And that was everyone’s downfall, pay your damn taxes! got hit by an infinite tsukiyomi and milled to death 🤣 dont fall for the bait

[@jovaneytoledo9569]

Game 1: Joe attacked with 5 power and the hidetsugu was activated. Should that have been half the life - 5 so 13 instead of 18? Did I miss something?

[@starry-dazed]

Bonus game!

[@liddantheone]

Rings triggers once so you can pay 2 or don't pay 2 only once. Good games though!

[@tomchandler2851]

Joe I don't know if you edit these or not but whoever is, know that I appreciate you

[@TabletopJocks]

I don’t but I will pass this along! Thank you for the kind words ☺️🫶🏾

[@watchdominion00]

Y’all cant round down 😅 great episode, spoiling us with two games!

[@robbiestevens1208]

I have a rakdos deck and I love it when it goes off just gets nasty real quick!

[@hiddenleaf414]

Love the representation in this episode!

[@TabletopJocks]

That’s what we do on this channel! We’re here to show all walks of life and representation!

[@thetruth4654]

Ain`t no mountain high enough

[@timwright3218]

Get that coffee money. Absolutely perfect edh synergy.

[@benjaminkaye5119]

Game 2 , twinning staff would have made a third heliods. Holy crap ! A lot of copying and great second game.

[@wanny225]

Rings of Brighthearth only triggers once so you can't keep copying the ability...

[@Zupiter8]

D is the hypest magic player in the game

[@paperkid8865]

Great Games!

[@Karl_Hungus_Nihilist]

Crim is my favorite content creator, so this was an auto like!

[@starmanda88]

Same and same

[@BootyNBeer]

Cyclonic would double because it “replaces” card text. Everyone returns to their hand

[@TheJonnysmiley]

just came here for the opp agent and boy oh boy 🤣

[@AlexDuWaldt]

Crazy huge dopamine release seeing Dee get hurt by his own Blood Moon. XD card's dumb.

[@GOOMBAHx]

Hey it’s me again… saying you have the best god damn intro music of alll time. Still waiting on my ringtone homie!!

[@619Slipk]

The fun of watching 4 people trying to figure out how rounded down works lol (And fail btw. It deals damage equal to half of the current life rounded down. Damage rounded down means you keep half of your life total rounded up)

[@philiptrogers]

Game 1 - 2x takesies backsies Joe!

[@mikeknightofdawn]

Where did the myriad trigger go after the cyclonic rift? He should have still gotten 2 tokens attacking after and etb triggers.

[@rara2ra2yrra3racjj2]

They call him "D", but after that first game, I'm inclined to call him "The".

[@ExZi-Rin]

I need that things to do checklist as a poster 🤙

[@DavidLopez-dn5nm]

you guys gotta clip that double head nod / grab at 01:02:18

[@TabletopJocks]

You can’t clip KZbin videos once they’ve been uploaded unless I’m missing something

[@obicortes8199]

As Tovolar player I just wanted to let know that he first made it night he was mistake because Xell had cast Mana Crypt. Although it wouldn't really make a difference since Dee didn't cast anything his next turn just wanted to let you know.

[@Mordain_Thade]

Came looking for a Rakdos game, was not disappointed. Well, a little disappointed because of D seemingly not knowing how his cards work, but that's minor compared to what's next. But holy crap, game 2, Rings of Brighthearth does NOT work like that. Rings will see an activated ability go on the stack, and trigger ONCE saying "hey, wanna pay 2 to copy that?" - it does not let you copy an activated ability an arbitrary amount of times as long as you can pay 2. Rings + Basalt is fine (you copy the untap ability, then tap the Monolith in between untaps; this nets 1 colorless mana each iteration). Rings + Shorikai = draw 2 discard 1 make a pilot, and then do it again. Other than Crim missing at least two Twinning Staff + Archmage triggers (on the Dark Ritual + Archaic, and Heliod's Intervention + Archaic) and the hubbub over the copied Rift (honestly that whole interaction seemed a little sus), not a bad watch. Tighten up that technical play, and I may be back for more!

[@jarhead636]

the meekstone was helping the whole table and when D blew it up you should have clapped back at him for letting you untap after taking half your health.....that deal was weird....I deff understand why crim hit you with that op agent lolol

[@Shadowof1ife]

Green white life gain deck is good one to build around

[@lucasc9142]

Crim missed so many triggers lmao. Missed card draws and copying spells too

[@rowenestanislao140]

You can’t pay {2} more than once for each time the triggered ability of Rings of Brighthearth resolves. (2020-11-10)

[@Liefgut]

D.... RTFC ! Playing Powerful spells and couldn't even play them right. You missed so many things/triggers.