Tactic Tuesday - Pep Guardiola's Tiki-Taka in Football Manager 2017

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@aaronhinton3446
@aaronhinton3446 7 жыл бұрын
In reality though it was only in the final third Barca was fluid, the rest of the time guardiola specifically told his players to stay in their position and NOT roam
@ronitronz4353
@ronitronz4353 7 жыл бұрын
Not stick to the position, but yeah it was flexible.
@omrilevitan2978
@omrilevitan2978 6 жыл бұрын
Bravo, you’ve really achieved that Barca style play!
@dawtzx
@dawtzx 7 жыл бұрын
Love these, still having huge success with your Klopp's Gegenpress tactic, having it working with pretty much anything I try. Would love to see if you can make the Conte Juventus 3-5-2/5-3-2 tactic.
@hajones10
@hajones10 7 жыл бұрын
Great tactic, spot on, only change I would say is that Barca definitely played with the highest possible line. Pique and Puyol would both be at the half field line, sometimes higher. This was generally the one way the team was exposed as neither center back was very quick and the full backs were so far up field. However what you say is true that in FM playing with too high of a line is dangerous, but to make it more accurate it would be the highest line. This also helped when they needed to recycle possession as the center backs were always very close to the other players.
@randyshipp
@randyshipp 7 жыл бұрын
Can you discuss how to evaluate whether your squad’s players are suited to this tactic? Or, maybe more generally, how to evaluate a new squad and decide what sort of tactic suits their particular strengths and weaknesses? Thanks for the great videos!
@rdanielr93
@rdanielr93 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video, Pep is my favorite manager next to Arsene Wenger. I adore his philosophy and the way he sees the football. Going to try this with my Inter team on FM, see if it works. I have players like Brozovic, Kondogbia and Gagliardini who are young, talented and smart. Cheers!
@Adam9130cs
@Adam9130cs 7 жыл бұрын
tbf, when guardiola was at barca fullbacks were constantly overlapping, they played a ridiculously high line and they used the full width of the pitch. but that's when they were playing with pedro and not neymar. tried a similar tactic but didn't think it utilised MSN as well as they could be
@FanofAslan
@FanofAslan 7 жыл бұрын
I play pep's tactics in the lower leagues usually with success. 1st season I just have to suffer watching my team playing hoofball with the rest of them but then as contracts run out (& with a few sales too) my squad gets re-vamped to include lots of freebie youngsters with at least decent but hopefully good stats for technique, stamina, team work, passing, first touch & off the ball. I then purr as my team tiki-takas their way past just about everybody, with possession somewhere between 60 & 75%. I pretty much play the same way as this video suggests, but I opt for "fluid" when going for it and "balanced" when a bit more cautious. With the "roam from positions" switched on, it works very well: reasonably sound at the back and foxes in the hen coop up front. Finally, I find it better when my IFs play on the side of their best foot (even though the game suggests playing them on the opposite side to their favoured foot so they can cut inside better). With an attack duty, they cut through the channel between FB and CB and shoot to the far post to score bucket loads of goals.
@chentasker2627
@chentasker2627 7 жыл бұрын
Can you replicate Milan's 4-4-2 narrow diamond? Thanks!
@ronitronz4353
@ronitronz4353 7 жыл бұрын
Messi's position was False 9, who was told to hold the ball.
@Matthew-pr7qb
@Matthew-pr7qb 4 жыл бұрын
Hi there, bit of a weird question but would this work with fm20 or not?
@Lewigicfc99
@Lewigicfc99 8 жыл бұрын
Love this series. Could you do Mourinho's 04-06 Chelsea?
@CurtyFM
@CurtyFM 8 жыл бұрын
Nice - I like this Idea - I'll add it to the list! Thanks man!
@mrarrogant5290
@mrarrogant5290 7 жыл бұрын
Lewigicfc99 i have mourinho tactics ..
@forthekingmalino4562
@forthekingmalino4562 8 жыл бұрын
Can you create the winning tactic from leicester last year? Awesome serie btw!
@CurtyFM
@CurtyFM 8 жыл бұрын
Nice idea!
@ni5265
@ni5265 7 жыл бұрын
Curty, Monaco - Leonardo Jardim tactic?
@BurticAndrey
@BurticAndrey 8 жыл бұрын
Curtyfm, you can make a tactic that replicate the stype of play of Brian Clough? Thanks!
@CurtyFM
@CurtyFM 8 жыл бұрын
That's a really good idea - thanks mate!
@dafuqmr13
@dafuqmr13 6 жыл бұрын
basicly ''Get the fucking ball mate ! Pass it long forward kick it the hardest as you can!''
@EmmanuelArowoselu
@EmmanuelArowoselu 8 жыл бұрын
Keep em Coming.Love the tactics
@CurtyFM
@CurtyFM 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate - really appreciated
@razzmatazz2280
@razzmatazz2280 7 жыл бұрын
Just say you had to switch Messi and Suarez positionally, how would you set up their roles for that? I feel having Messi as a AP-A makes him sit too deep but an IF-A isnt as creative, I have also tried a variant formation of a false 9 or even CF-S next to suarez up top as a CF-A. Any suggestions? Thanks :)
@Underratedd30
@Underratedd30 7 жыл бұрын
If I use this tactic with chelsea. Which player do i need to change?
@isakpetterssonmusic
@isakpetterssonmusic 8 жыл бұрын
Messi at striker? He played as a FALSE NINE under Pep because he was the only main man in attack at that time in barca. However now they have Suarez and he clearly plays as a striker and Messi plays as a RW inside forward or even advanced playmaker on the rw.
@CurtyFM
@CurtyFM 8 жыл бұрын
Under Pep (which is what this video is) he played as a False Nine although he was essentially allowed to do what he wanted. I explain my reason for using him as a Treq in the video.
@MrRasmus500
@MrRasmus500 7 жыл бұрын
Madrid for this season? i wanna know if its tactics or luck, that makes them unbeatable at the moment
@deusvult9883
@deusvult9883 7 жыл бұрын
In this tactic I think Suarez would be better as a Raudmeteur
@alexburt20
@alexburt20 6 жыл бұрын
Can we return this series for FM18
@MrAmangeldi
@MrAmangeldi 7 жыл бұрын
Do u use opposition instructions? or do u leave it to assistant manager?
@fmscout
@fmscout 7 жыл бұрын
Aman Kibassov That's for you to do yourself depending on your opponent
@MarcEricLaneGlobal
@MarcEricLaneGlobal 8 жыл бұрын
Hey Curty, can you try to create Spalletti's rather odd-but-effective 3-4-2-1 at Roma? I've tried to recreate it, but I'm having so much difficulty putting Nainggolan in this system. Is he a Box-to-Box? A Ball-Winner? A Defensive Forward?
@CurtyFM
@CurtyFM 8 жыл бұрын
Marc Eric Lane Hey mate - thanks for watching. I've not attempted this one yet but it's definitely upcoming in the next few weeks
@officialdrexx7645
@officialdrexx7645 8 жыл бұрын
can you play this with city do you think?
@fmscout
@fmscout 8 жыл бұрын
+Official Drexx City definitely have the players to pull off this system. They also have the money to replace any underperforming players!
@officialdrexx7645
@officialdrexx7645 8 жыл бұрын
FM Scout thanks man
@villadsoldenburg2900
@villadsoldenburg2900 8 жыл бұрын
Do Bayern 2012/13
@fmscout
@fmscout 8 жыл бұрын
+Villads Oldenburg Nice - cheers for the comment!
@mozikalozi2596
@mozikalozi2596 7 жыл бұрын
FM Scout please bayern !! 2013
@kimharveycalingasan683
@kimharveycalingasan683 7 жыл бұрын
how to put it on football manager?
@Agostinho86
@Agostinho86 7 жыл бұрын
There is something wrong. Tiki-taka is known for its possession but in the games you show there is about 50% only
@ThanhLe-21
@ThanhLe-21 7 жыл бұрын
does this work if i play with spain national team
@fmscout
@fmscout 7 жыл бұрын
Test it and find out
@rafliayyasirakasiwi
@rafliayyasirakasiwi 7 жыл бұрын
Great Tactics, I use this tactics with Man City Good Job Can You make a video Man City Tactics 11-12?
@KrazyJay9712
@KrazyJay9712 8 жыл бұрын
His Suarez IF good?
@CurtyFM
@CurtyFM 8 жыл бұрын
Not his ideal position but Suarez is good anywhere!
@TheKreattion
@TheKreattion 8 жыл бұрын
CartyFM, Can you do Arrigo Sacchi or Carlo Ancelotti?
@CurtyFM
@CurtyFM 8 жыл бұрын
Drew Togneri Sacchi's Milan is one I've been looking at although Ancelotti's Milan from 2005-07 could also be fun.
@TheKreattion
@TheKreattion 8 жыл бұрын
I've made a decent 4-4-2 counter attacking tactic. But i'm in a rough patch because the ai is smarter and learn how to play against you this year.
@CurtyFM
@CurtyFM 8 жыл бұрын
Yeah with any tactic now you have to know your team and learn how to adapt the tactic to suit different scenarios.
@CurtyFM
@CurtyFM 8 жыл бұрын
Maybe check out my Invincibles tactic too - that seems to be a really effective counter 442
@TheKreattion
@TheKreattion 8 жыл бұрын
I have, I based mine off the Invincibles and The Reckonist's Leicester 4-4-2. However i've run into a rough patch and my job is under threat now.
@WMMus
@WMMus 8 жыл бұрын
I couldn't download the tactic on Steam! =/
@CurtyFM
@CurtyFM 8 жыл бұрын
Wallace Moura Go to the link provided and click subscribe. Then when in game, go to the tactics screen and click on the arrow next to one of your 3 preset tactics which brings a new menu. Hit manage tactics and import and the tactics items you've subscribed to on steam should be listed.
@WMMus
@WMMus 8 жыл бұрын
CurtyFM Yes! Thanks!
@vladimirborovcanin1947
@vladimirborovcanin1947 7 жыл бұрын
works perfect for me.make 1 change only.suarez st centar with complete forward instruction and messi right if att with hold ball instruction. second season for now 7 march 2018 suarez 40 48 10 and messi 39 39 18.lol
@mitchellnvz3278
@mitchellnvz3278 7 жыл бұрын
do the cruijff tactic when he was the manager of barcelona
@fmscout
@fmscout 7 жыл бұрын
Mitchell v Zoelen This series has finished now
@fish18ish96
@fish18ish96 8 жыл бұрын
It is a common misconception that Guardiola intentionally adopts a so called 'Tiki-Taka' system. He openly states his efforts to avoid such tactics!!!! Tiki-Taka is passing for the sake of it, and that's the last thing Guardiola's tactics involve. Please don't be so short sighted as to follow this cliche observation.
@CurtyFM
@CurtyFM 8 жыл бұрын
Kieran Whiting This is a reasonable point as I'm aware Pep loathes the term 'tiki taka'. However, you'd have to be 'short-sighted' to not at least realise there is an association between Pep's Barca and the style of tiki taka football, whether Pep likes it or not. In terms of KZbin as well, most people associate the tiki taka name with Pep, so it makes sense for me to name the video as such! Got to think about search terms!
@fish18ish96
@fish18ish96 8 жыл бұрын
CurtyFM you'd have to be misguided to associate the two. Tiki-Taka is merely passing because it looks nice. Everything about Pep's tactics revolve around getting the ball in the back of the net.
@CurtyFM
@CurtyFM 8 жыл бұрын
Kieran Whiting The aim of football is to get the ball in the back of the net. Tiki taka is another form trying to get the ball in the net. It's not 'just' about passing the ball from side to side. It's about moving the ball, pulling opposition players out of position to create space, which incidentally, is exactly what Pep was trying to achieve at Barca. So whether he likes the term or not, Pep's Barca played as close to tiki taka as any domestic team has in the past 20 years.
@fish18ish96
@fish18ish96 8 жыл бұрын
CurtyFM it's just misguiding your viewers.
@CurtyFM
@CurtyFM 8 жыл бұрын
Kieran Whiting I don't think it's misguided at all. I've explained my use of the term.
@mitchellnvz3278
@mitchellnvz3278 7 жыл бұрын
do the netherlands 1974 total football tactic
@fmscout
@fmscout 7 жыл бұрын
Mitchell v Zoelen this series has finished now
@ronitronz4353
@ronitronz4353 7 жыл бұрын
0:49 It is "Tiki-Taka", not "Tiki-Taki".
@officalabdulazizalmuhanna3826
@officalabdulazizalmuhanna3826 7 жыл бұрын
TIKI TAKA 4-3-3 IS BEST FORMATION
@officalabdulazizalmuhanna3826
@officalabdulazizalmuhanna3826 7 жыл бұрын
INTER AC MILAN JUVENTUS CHELSEA LIVERPOOL REAL MADRID AJAX SHOULD USE IT 4-3-3 TIKI TAKA
@Lor_D_Richafa
@Lor_D_Richafa 7 жыл бұрын
This did not work for me i lost 5 games in a row with barca
@officalabdulazizalmuhanna3826
@officalabdulazizalmuhanna3826 7 жыл бұрын
KAKA DI MARIA HIGUAIN TRIO RONALDO BENZEMA BALE TRIO MORATA OZIL DIARRA TRIO KHIDERA MODRIC KROSS CASIMIRO TRIO
@CurtyFM
@CurtyFM 7 жыл бұрын
Why are you just naming players?
@matthewhoyle31
@matthewhoyle31 8 жыл бұрын
Will try this with Man City. ideal for Gabriel Jesus and Aguero.
@CurtyFM
@CurtyFM 8 жыл бұрын
Matthew Hoyle Good luck mate - let us know how you get on
@matthewhoyle31
@matthewhoyle31 8 жыл бұрын
CurtyFM; Will do. getting the best out of Aguero as a lone striker is difficult. Then you have to find a role for David Silva.
@CurtyFM
@CurtyFM 8 жыл бұрын
You'd hope the players would be supporting him - does Aguero have any preferred moves? Maybe change his role to false 9 to encourage him to drop deep.
@matthewhoyle31
@matthewhoyle31 8 жыл бұрын
CurtyFM ; Likes to come deep for the ball and dribbles more. I also use a strikerless formation with 3 shadow strikers and he is awesome in that role.
@FavorateChoice
@FavorateChoice 8 жыл бұрын
Sam allardycini tactic? 😂😂
@CurtyFM
@CurtyFM 8 жыл бұрын
Epik Vids Hahaha nice
@jesuzkriste1437
@jesuzkriste1437 7 жыл бұрын
Used this, 1st game lost 2 nil...nice 1 😂😂😂
@FarazMan
@FarazMan 7 жыл бұрын
Use Messi as an AF = Goals
@sourav8230
@sourav8230 6 жыл бұрын
if-su is garbage it messes up player decisions
@sourav8230
@sourav8230 6 жыл бұрын
specially with working footed if he shoots sooooo many times so attack is the best in that
@calrain7721
@calrain7721 8 жыл бұрын
Pochettino tactic
@officalabdulazizalmuhanna3826
@officalabdulazizalmuhanna3826 7 жыл бұрын
MESSI NEYMAR SUAREZ VILLA SANCHEZ PEDRO CESC INIESTA BUSQUESTS XAVI RAKITIC GOMES TURAN RAFINHA PAULINHO ALVES PIQUE MASCARANO ALBA UMTITI DIGNE MATHIEU ALEIX ROBERTO PUYOL ABIDAL THIAGO MOTTA MILITO BOJAN TOURE DECO QUARESMA HENRY IBRAHIMOVIC RONALDINHO MUNIR HALILOVIC ADRIANO GRIMALDO CUCCRELA BARTRA ETO SAMPER SANDRO BELLERIN AFELLAY MONTOYA BRAVO TER STEGEN
@officalabdulazizalmuhanna3826
@officalabdulazizalmuhanna3826 7 жыл бұрын
LUIS ENRIQUE AND PEP GUARDIOLA
@nuzzerandneo2625
@nuzzerandneo2625 8 жыл бұрын
Regista
@CurtyFM
@CurtyFM 8 жыл бұрын
For who? Busquets?
@nuzzerandneo2625
@nuzzerandneo2625 8 жыл бұрын
CurtyFM ye u seen he play makes and breaks up play
@CurtyFM
@CurtyFM 8 жыл бұрын
Disagree to be honest - there's no way he has total creative freedom which is what a Regista has.
@nuzzerandneo2625
@nuzzerandneo2625 8 жыл бұрын
I disagree
@CurtyFM
@CurtyFM 8 жыл бұрын
Fair enough
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