Things I Wish I Learned Sooner About Shooting Handguns

[@theflyingwelshman5338]

This is what I love about your channel. You’re a channel that gives practical advice to people, not blowing things up for the clicks. Keep doing what you’re doing.

[@nefariousyawn]

I mean I would still watch if she filled a van with tannerite and watermelons to shoot with a .50 bmg, but these videos are so much more practical.

[@theflyingwelshman5338]

@@nefariousyawn there are already a million channels like that, and they never give practical advice.

[@StoneGoblin]

This channel is an immeasurable resource for a new shooter.

[@slyfox0086]

TG is way too cool. Sets an unreachable goal for the rest of us!

[@dashboardkid21]

especially if you dont want to support the typical gun channels with their hate for the rest of us.

[@AlexDenton0451]

Also for wacky outfits LOL, my girlfriend finds them entertaining at least.

[@kenrobba5831]

Old ones, TOO !

[@flamephlegm]

yeah for real

[@s00-x2h]

0:37 support side grip (support hand should be doing most of the work) 1:59 aiming with the support hand 2:43 what to do with the dominant hand? Pulling the trigger and (some) grip, use your strong side pinky for proper grip 4:49 where to put the trigger finger? Try it yourself and see what works, no one else can tell you.

[@numbersix8919]

Thanks!

[@contrails2151]

THANK YOU-I'm happy to see someone buck the conventional wisdom on trigger finger placement. I learned several years ago by doing the quarter on top of your slide trick that I'm much more accurate with my last finger joint against the trigger instead of the pad of my finger tip. I noticed that I could keep the quarter on top of the slide all day long with that technique, but keeping my pad on it causes the gun to jerk slightly to one side, sliding the quarter over a hair. I'm in the USAF and even had a range instructor tell me to switch up my trigger pull when shooting the M9 once. I like to think my marksman ribbon speaks for itself.

[@its_clean]

I'm a small dude without a lot of upper body strength, and understanding the support hand grip was a revelation to my recoil control. I was basically taught to squeeze as hard as possible with my support hand until I start shaking, then back off 5% just until the shaking stops. Firing hand should be a firm handshake, biased toward the ring finger and pinky. If you're not white-knuckling your support hand, you're not gripping hard enough.

[@MichaelJenkins910]

You have a real gift for conveying fundamentals in a way that makes them accessible to shooters of all levels. Thank you!

[@Flippwn1]

Just tried the pinky tip with a bunch of dry fire reps, and yah, it worked. Thanks! If i mentally think about squeezing with only the pinky in my dominant hand, the trigger pull is very smooth. my red dot exaggerates any movement, and by doing this its really steady. Ill have to incorporate this at the range this weekend.

[@AR-GuidesAndMore]

The part with aiming with the left is a neat idea, i shall try that the next time. Thanks

[@chariotwiggly]

that pinky tip is actually really useful wow, just trying some one handed dryfire at my desk and I could immediately see an improvement in the stability of my grip! thanks tgf :))))

[@ValVonRhine]

This actually helps a lot. I'm right handed, and my right elbow doesn't extend completely. If a straight line is a 180° curve, my right arm is 175°. Because I'm more or less self taught, I get to learn as I go without someone "telling me how to do it." I realized this past weekend that I was starting to get fatigue tremors in my right arm pretty quickly. My brain never made that connection to "duh, just support more of the weight with your left hand, dummy." Thank you for reminding this dummy to support more of the weight on my left hand.

[@yuvalavrum9354]

This is wonderful! I only have time to get to the range once every other month, gonna make sure to watch this before my next outing. Nice to see other women shooters 😇

[@gulkash1188]

Love seeing the wisdom of Pat Mac on the trigger finger placement. Something I personally still struggle with after so many reps "splitting the distal flange". That grip pressure trick with the firing hand is something I personally am going to give a try on my next range trip. Keep up the good work!

[@elilla3583]

I wasn't ready for this video to be the place where I finally learned _why_ in Japanese fencing the grip focuses on the pinky finger with the index left loose. I've known this for twenty years and I knew there was more precision this way but I never knew why.

[@gmclucy]

that first one in the hands totally blew my mind that makes so much sense yet isn't really intuitive

[@dimitri246]

Super informative. I hadn’t seen these specific tips and techniques in videos.

[@17spyguy]

Always excited to see a new video. I've been trying to get more practice shooting and at the range with handguns. I've mostly used iron sights, but I've been wanting to try out the red-dot optics I'm never quite sure how to use them since I'm so used to handgun irons. A video on how to use different kinds of optics and sights on handguns and rifles would be really helpful.

[@sci-fimodeler1701]

Trigger finger position, Took me about 6 years to figure that out. There is only one handgun, HK VP9 where placing the middle of the pad works for me. All other guns I use it is the joint of the finger. Good Advice!!

[@Q.Lawrence]

Great information. I actually focus the pressure on my shooting hand between my ring finger and my thumb. For some reason the pinky pressure makes me shoot low. I apply pressure with my ring finger and focus my thumb forward. I keep that thumb off the gun. That actually firms the grip without using strength.

[@kenhoward3512]

This is informative. I have a bit of an aiming deficiency that needs correcting, and this should do it, with practice.

[@TimberwolfCY]

Hadn't heard of using the off-hand as directly as you've mentioned, though I did start using it much more about a year ago and noticed my shot placement instantly became much more consistent. So I really value that indirect feedback on that and lets me know I'm on the right path and to consider using it even more. The pinky idea is also really interesting, very good to know. Re: pad/full finger/etc.: I hadn't quite heard your take on it, though I've told people in the past my *personal* preference is pad, however like yourself have also taught and said that whatever you feel comfortable and works, works. Do what gets the results. The full-knuckle advice from back in the day came from the fact that most revolvers were very heavy pull due to being double-action, so considerable finger strength was needed to actuate them properly and consistently. The idea behind the finger pad, IMO, is that you can 'feel' more with it and because most striker-pistols and DA/SA have relatively-light triggers, for most (many?) the pad is enough and in theory should be more dexterous because there is less movement involved. I've found both shift the shots due to motion, but neither really more than the other. My personal 'take' on it comes from an Olympic-style fencing background: good finger control is paramount to getting precise hits and since that technique exclusively uses the pads of the index finger and thumb, my natural transition has been to use the pad of the finger, though this internal reasoning didn't occur to me till later. Anywho, just my 2 cents :) Love your stuff, and thanks a ton!

[@Mandis13]

Excellent advice, well stated! Always a pleasure dropping in on this channel; AMAZINGLY informative!

[@AkiSan0]

i aim with my trigger hand (like a free floating barrel) and use the non-dom hand just for the recoil. About the fingers. absolutely right! About the trigger. i place the first joint at the corner of the trigger, so i press with the base of the first piece of my trigger finger. tip is way to wobbly and everything behind the first joint just gets pinched somewhere..... (at least with what im familiar). TLDR: so whatever floats your boat. :D

[@Tallus_ap_Mordren]

Great advice, will try it out next time at the range!

[@larsmurdochkalsta8808]

The center of the final portion of your finger thing comes from the days of bullseye competition firing double action revolvers in single action.

[@numbersix8919]

Just to back up TGF from non-firearm perspective, the pinky and ring fingers are used to grip the sword and other weapons, and unarmed, to grasp opponent's wrists in Japanese martial arts. Students are taught that these are the "strongest" fingers! In European fencing, the the ring and little fingers are used to maneuver the blade, which takes a good amount of strength. They don't seem very strong, but when it comes to grip strength, they really are!

[@KellyAesop]

thank you TGF

[@dandyjones1185]

Great tips on an awesome channel. Thank you! Keep up the great content!

[@verager2493]

Damn! I need to practice with that sympathetic grip movement as soon as I can. I never thought of those nervous structures in regard for my technique before!

[@thefirstthrownmolotov6852]

I work with a lot of new shooters (mainly focusing on safe handling); what handguns would you suggest they start with? Typically I train them on a Ruger 22-45 and move them up to a Glock 34 or HK USP after. Was thinking on picking up a Walther P22 and Sig P226 for variety's sake.

[@TacticoolGirlfriend]

Honestly, I try to encourage people to get a gun they like first and then train. But if they're just needing a first time intro, I'll just get them on my P10C or G19. It gives them a good baseline of what to expect and I haven't seen any issues with newbies struggling with the recoil and they tend to acclimate quickly so long as they get good instruction.

[@TimberwolfCY]

There's some really good 22lr autoloaders out there nowadays. I help people with their shooting on occasion too....come to think of it I 'auto' pick one up ;)

[@thefirstthrownmolotov6852]

⁠@@TacticoolGirlfriend Thank you for the suggestion! I’m coming into a P01 and P10C so those will be added to my training selection. Keep up the good work here and out there! ✊🖤🏴

[@domenik8339]

I think the taurus tx22 makes the most sense to train new shooters, it's the most like a 9mm ergonicmally and control wise yet still 22LR. Optics ready as well.

[@catheadfred7652]

Why isn't this amazing woman not at 100K yet?

[@Pinzul91]

Thanks for the good advices! Great video!

[@TheOnlyRatDragon]

Honestly, I wish I knew how rarely the boop count increased before committing to this bit. The Boop Count did not increase.

[@abaracskai]

I love these tips, personally I suck with handguns. So far it’s been the biggest challenge for me.

[@loganwykstra7922]

Top notch as always

[@warrenharrison9490]

Thank you for sharing quality information. 👍

[@karlhoffman2143]

Good solid advice!

[@allsport916]

“This hand moves the gun, this hand moves the trigger.” Well stated.

[@dtoyking1]

Will you cover the subject of the ATF pistol brace, ruling/updates

[@saintmichael753]

Nice 👍. Do you feel like glock's 22 degree grip angle aids in recoil mitigation (due to wrist lock-out) as compared to other guns' typical 18 degree grip angle similar to your old P10C? If not, are there any benefits to their unique grip angle? Thanks

[@TacticoolGirlfriend]

Nah, not really in my experience. When I run both guns in various drills, they generally perform about the same. It's the shooter, not the hardware, that develops consistency and drives performance, as seen here: kzbin.infonh8S7fL27-Y

[@saintmichael753]

👍👊

[@thebeardprevails5246]

This is an excellent video. Thank you.

[@Starbawk]

you're awesome, this experience looks awesome

[@larsmurdochkalsta8808]

What's the arm noodle sleeves thing called?

[@jakecheck3225]

Keep doing what you're doing. Never stop.

[@chrisj683]

Not the point of the channel…but I wasn’t ready for that outfit at all! You’re killing it, I’m just stunned like a fish.

[@charles_wipman]

Use the left hand for the grip instead the right hand was a change from night to day.

[@DougWater]

My cat ignores me when your videos are playing.

[@OriginalClam]

thank you!

[@greylocke100]

A lot of what you discuss can be simplified to, find what works and use it to build muscle memory. I've worked with too many shooters who are changing their grip, their stance, their hold based on a video they saw, or an article they read. Find what is first and foremost COMFORTABLE for your hand and then build your technique from there. If it isn't comfortable you are not going to get good at it. Thankee for the video.

[@ezridiol]

No, it can't. The correct grip is not actually all that comfortable, plus it tires your arms out. The correct grip is what lets you break the first shot on target, without pre-ignition movement; and lets your follow-up shots be as quick as possible for the accuracy you are trying to achieve.

[@ruuzulu8814]

Slightly off topic but I noticed your overwatch trigger on the p10 has an appropriate amount of take up. I’ve bought 3 overwatch triggers for multiple p10 I’ve had over the years and the first one I bought years ago was perfect, still have it to this day. The second and the third though literally took away 90% of the take up to the point that it seemed unsafe imo. I guess certain people like that but it seemed too little take up for me. Did you have any of these issues with your overwatch trigger. Be sent videos to overwatch and they said while they said there is a difference between my original overwatch trigger vs the other 2, they said it’s still technically “in spec” kinda makes me a little anxious if their repeatability on trigger tolerances is kinda sloppy

[@TacticoolGirlfriend]

Hmm, yeah, I haven't personally had those issues with mine but that sounds like there's something amiss with the triggers that remove so much takeup.

[@greatemeraldgoat5029]

Thank you

[@asalmon2112]

Good morning. Friday morning. 😊

[@HobbiesWithMike]

As far as trigger pull goes I like imagine pulling the trigger into the webbing of my hand

[@user-ms3lw3gi4f]

👍

[@fireemblemistrash75]

Things I wish I learned… 1.) The accessories… my wallet 2.) bone tight grip is the way 3.) I wish every holster fit a glock holster…

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[@paulsciria8921]

Pinky Power, like John from asp

[@larsmurdochkalsta8808]

If there's any weird comments on this video, please understand that's just a glitch because when you comment on KZbin shorts, sometimes it puts the comments in the long form video you were watching before. I do not know why it's infuriating. I think I got the mall but damn

[@sd09gfh8sfgjmsf9yhkm]

slay.

[@deletednomas4095]

Cool

[@jccact]

3:52 i don’t think i get it… 4:10 oh nvm i’m good 👭

[@eddiefinlaw8045]

god dammit you got me simpin again

[@dtna]

There are many different thoughts on how to fire a handgun. The weaver, isoceles and now a combination of both ways to hold it. I've found that isolating the grip from the trigger finger is the most important thing for me not to jerk the trigger. kzbin.info/www/bejne/eXavh6icrJeKeJo

[@GamingManiacMan]

Me who has a security 9 compact with no area for my pinky 👀

[@Nothing123Battle]

Reddit recommend me this video lol.

[@Eringobragh1861]

I learned that the hard way when I was 14

[@AE-3465]

I am a tip finger person

[@GerbenNZ]

When shooting single handed, have you tried shooting with your thumb up? Almost like a kid pretending their hand is a gun. I get laughed at for doing it, but I have way more control over my gun that way, it works for me. (Mind you, not at all een expert here... 😆)

[@TacticoolGirlfriend]

I haven't, but I'm certainly down to experiment and try that myself!

[@GerbenNZ]

Cool beans! Curious what your experience will be.

[@user-ij9sh1tf9d]

Personally, I would disagree with the idea that your support-side hand should be doing the majority of the work. If you have a weak or relaxed dominate-side hand grip on the pistol, then having a strong support-sixd hand grip is dubious because it's not being given a solid surface to grip into to begin with, I.E. your other hand. You should be gripping a pistol as tightly as possible with your dominate hand without shaking your hand, and you can easily tell if you're doing this or not by holding the pistol one-handed.

[@PigPharmaceuticals]

That’s a good way to induce tension in your firing hand, which is how you get trigger freeze, slower splits, sympathetic clenching, etc. Ben Stoeger and Joel Park’s fundamentals videos explain the importance of strong support hand/relaxed firing hand grip.

[@danielmichael3610]

Love that you wear collars all the time. Kink needs to be normalized, not shamed

[@avabriley5626]

Ma'am please, I can only be so gay

[@DJDocsVideos]

I'm old. I learned shooting wirh one hand and find these 2 handed style curious.

[@thetest8777]

Whats a tactical girlfriend?

[@FilmmakingSock]

A girlfriend that is tactical

[@FilmmakingSock]

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[@thetest8777]

@@FilmmakingSock oh okay