Tai Chi Master Who Ran Away From Xu Xiaodong Fights MMA Hobbyist

[@FightCommentary]

Update on this match: Ma Baoguo took about 3 minutes to wake up from the KO. He was taken to the hospital. While getting an IV during the hospital stay, Ma explained he thought this match was supposed to be more like "point fighting" because that's how Traditional Chinese Martial Arts matches fought. Interesting assertion. When interviewed a year later about the match, Ma came up with this excuse: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gKGofpqApNljpMk Ma also still insists he beat Peter Irving: kzbin.info/www/bejne/kKDcqoN5jsZsiLs Also, to see Xu Xiaodong 2017 almost scuffle with Ma Baoguo, please go here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mJLKqKWfdqZria8 Big thanks to Rob for helping commentate. Please follow his coffee brand here: kzbin.info/door/GtkLLHq2IGcAJvuz_Bgs0g Big shoutout to Andy Pi for alerting us to this. Please check out the interviews with Andy here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iH7VYnR8pdOqfJo kzbin.info/www/bejne/sGHZZKWDep1kgc0

[@DanTheWolfman]

Cool intro but bad scary stuff. Any Bagua masters?

[@atan4651]

dude, you can scan the QR code using wechat app.

[@unclesuworld]

Yan Wuz Tang is a martial art club

[@smutjunkies559]

It was a point fight, Ma. And your opponent just set the high score!

[@peekaboopeekaboo1165]

Why Xiaodong isn't challeging masters of Wing Chun & other school/style of Kung Fu ? In both the mainland (includes HK & Macao) and Taiwan.

[@G3N3S3R]

That's unfair, Master Ma Bao ran out of chakra fighting Frieza 2 days ago in his search for the One Piece.

[@feminico2613]

He's on his way to find a stand arrow.

[@elbattarijamil7781]

@@feminico2613 DIO !!!

[@wbgsci]

This is super mind blowing

[@peoul1]

Frieza is from dragonball and one piece is from diff anime smh

[@feminico2613]

@@peoul1 r/woooosh

[@amorfati9519]

The good side is that the guy who was put to sleep was already wearing his pyjama. 👌😴

[@pokemasterdark707]

Ahahahahahaha yes LOL

[@mokchuanwei1]

Lol

[@jerry171460]

In other words, he was prepared one way or the other!

[@jerry171460]

If he wins, you call that Kung Fu uniform. If he loses, that's a pyjama!

[@shadownine9495]

No need for a lullaby this is quicker 👊🏾

[@calleX]

Most surprising thing about these fights is that these supposed "masters" don't know how to fight at all. It's like they are worse than someone who has no training at all. I don't understand.

[@xm-qw4fp]

Because they are fakers

[@juanpablogonzalez8528]

What they do is just art nowadays, kind of like a dance

[@larsheuker]

Somehow they are worse than primitive flinging instinctual fighting

[@passiveaggressivenegotiato8087]

I'm not a fan of their inferior arts AT ALL, but I have to think, that some thing was lost over multiple generations, because it had to be impossible to be this fake in ancient times. I'm talking about since the advent of guns. Surely, in common ancient dojos, when regular citizens were not allowed to have any type of weapons, there were masters who had to prove their abilities, even if those abilities (art) were inferior to other 'bare handed fight skills' in other places like Thailand.

[@mrspeigle1]

@dan b i think its a case of degradation over time. The original master of the art knew what he was doing but his students slowly placed form over function eroding the syllabus. Also factor that likely opponents back then would be either uneducated untrained peasants with little fighting experience beyond a brawl or another martial arts stylist who is just as poorly pressure tested. Simply put we've advanced beyond those times.

[@sleepfgc]

The mma guy was holding his toes the wrong way so that's why the tai chi master couldn't knock him out.

[@FightCommentary]

Another Dillman fan ;)

[@Dajanja]

@@FightCommentary and the MMA guy kept reversing his tongue position as well, nullifying the master's Chi

[@izanagisburden9465]

@@Dajanja I use this skill kzbin.info/www/bejne/e4XKZYSgp9Cdbsk Don't worry not a Rick roll or stick bug XD

[@eliphas_catdaddy7982]

no it was his tongue

[@Ryooken]

This really isn't funny. These guys should not be fighting if he can't handle himself in the ring on the street etc. This is my beef with a lot of these guys who claim to be masters of Tai Chi Chuan. If you can't use your skills in combat then you need to practice just for health and say so. Tai Chi Chuan is an excellent system but these guys really make the art look bad.

[@Mr.mallaer]

The master’s problem is that he is wearing pajamas to a fight. This means he is still dreaming.

[@wikistacks9396]

Dreaming in his Animal Crossing pjs

[@djmarsone5209]

😂😂😀👌

[@恐怖巔峰-宁楠楠]

The problem of physical quality, if two iron men fight, do you think boxing will win? Technology is always advanced.

[@renanmendes1299]

@@恐怖巔峰-宁楠楠 mma will

[@ziadidabde3662]

@@renanmendes1299 mma is mix

[@CrustaceonsReef]

I don’t even think it would take an MMA hobbyist to win this fight. I think they could have taken anyone under 50 from a bar in Eastern Europe and the result would’ve been the same.

[@Kriptickhaos]

Thats not the point you idiots. He clains to be next to godly and tricks ppl into paying him and calling him master. The mma guy is expoaing these fake fucks.

[@alexjamesbaker]

@@Kriptickhaos did you forget to take your medication?

[@yunshanluo3497]

Just run around a bit in the ring and he will start fainting

[@calisthenicsnoob9990]

I think most ppl who fought a few fights in their life can beat him up

[@Kriptickhaos]

@@calisthenicsnoob9990 no shit dumbass

[@Aracne80]

I love how the mma-guy stands there and looks like: Did I kill him? Are you alive, man?

[@leohe6781]

He's only a hobbyist not a MMA pro

[@shockme156]

😂😂

[@errydeo8865]

@@leohe6781 he is MMA bro

[@lukekonopka1344]

@@errydeo8865 no he does mma but he isnt a professional

[@Guy65006]

@@leohe6781 lmao imagine an actual MMA pro fighting these tai chi masters. They’d die

[@israelwolstein9351]

It's the Kung Fu "masters" who call out and insult MMA fighters all the time. They want this, let them have it.

[@StylebendersDog]

RagingUtai there is no real tai chi fighters dude lol

[@martialartstips5177]

@@StylebendersDog there is combat Tai Chi but they're probably only like 20 people in the world can apply it correctly because it requires such a specific mind-set, body type, and combat experience.

[@canaldesugestoesa6651]

@@martialartstips5177 its probability is false. If this man who fought and has been practicing for a long time, how can he conclude that there are only 20 people? and another if there are people capable of fighting because they don't show up and challenge the fighters, will you want to convince me that they don't fight because it would kill your opponents? ahh this is bullshit.

[@pranakhan]

@@martialartstips5177 1.3 Billion people in China. 7.8 Billion people in the world. Out of a billion people, even if only one in a million fighters could effectively fight using Tai Chi principles, thats still a thousand fighters.

[@martialartstips5177]

@@pranakhan okay...

[@gregpaul6448]

i dont feel bad for him one bit, cos in an interview, he was saying that the MMA dude did a sneak attack on him and that was the reason why he lost

[@aplus1080]

Yeah heaven forbid your badass has sympathy for a 69 year old dude who fought and got KO'd. You seem like an awesome dude.

[@charless3108]

Just to make you hate him more the guy said xu xiao dong didn't dare to fight him

[@Chromwel-A]

A Plus the faker agreed to fight.

[@kleptomania2631]

@@aplus1080 why should he, he got himself in the situation due to his arrogance. Stop acting like this is some innocent old man who got viciously attacked.

[@SmithyWebermanJaegermanJensen]

@@aplus1080 Yeah lets sympatize with an old man who lied about having beat an mma fighter on a fake spar on national tv and accept public challenge to do duel fight himself. Lets do that

[@PaulLongva]

Another example of ego getting in the way of reality.

[@silverdc5]

The tea is poisonous, it disrupted his chi, he would have blocked a few more punches with his face if he was not poisoned, the mma fighter is a cheater

[@FightCommentary]

Hahahahaha

[@colet1096]

I think I saw that in a Jet Li movie. Classic Western devilry.

[@楚留臭]

@@colet1096 yes, "Fearless" is name of the movie

[@jerry171460]

No , that's not tea. That was liquor! He was thinking about using his drunken Tai Chi!

[@WastedTalent83]

that happen in movies a lot XD

[@uthoshantm]

When liars end up believing their own lyes.

[@AustinBroussard]

lies*

[@lechuga777lechuga]

When communism meets the real world. Lol

[@cfG21]

@@lechuga777lechuga kzbin.info/www/bejne/moWzYml-hauAo9U

[@sid2112]

@@AustinBroussard you misunderstood. He was referring to dishonest chemicals. 😉

[@Zyscheriah]

Well, in their heads they're practicing actual usable(in combat) martial art, probably the same with their masters too. its not necessarily that they're lying, just generational maater-student brainwash, some of them are probably lying though.

[@cliffordhong4662]

Guys remember the mma hobbyist is NOT A YOUNG MAN he is 50 years old, so its old dude vs old dude...

[@FightCommentary]

Yep. But 18-20 years of age difference is still immense.

[@jeffcuevas5918]

Screw u! 50 is not old!!! Well...it's kinda old....well...yea..it's old

[@cliffordhong4662]

What u mean the other dude is 70?!!!

[@caixinxin5938]

@@cliffordhong4662 yes 50+ vs 67

[@simonsim5802]

@@FightCommentary yes there will be huge advantage even in a snooker match

[@larryib]

It’s the MMA fighters fault for holding his tongue in a certain position.

[@chbjj]

George Dillman reference, eh?

[@alfisyahr]

@@chbjj it disturb the chi of the master :v probably

[@carlojacalne5555]

plus, his toe's position was upward while the other was pressing the floor, it nullifies tai chi

[@bluffem]

​@@carlojacalne5555 then you reverse

[@jjsoledad8553]

"Everybody's got a plan till they get punched in the face" . - Mike Tyson

[@omarendin6497]

You are correct mr tyson

[@diddlenfiddle7311]

There's always one

[@kejiri3593]

Guess he aint wrong. If the plan is doomed to fail haha : D

[@user-6-9-4-2-0]

Man didnt even have a plan

[@eggycarrot]

They ain't even acting like they got themselves no plan , dudes just tryna dance when they're gonna be aggressively man handled

[@thewhinjaninja3610]

But when you pay an MMA fighter to spar and then claim you beat him up, I'd say he brought that on himself.

[@ebailey140]

He claimed he won this fight.

[@cfG21]

@MadeAUsername kzbin.info/www/bejne/moWzYml-hauAo9U

[@MK_ULTRA420]

@MadeAUsername "The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting. Supreme excellence consists of breaking the enemy's resistance without fighting." ~ Sun Tzu 😂😂😂

[@anthonyhernandez4266]

@@cfG21 that video had such bad acting.

[@cfG21]

@@anthonyhernandez4266 well I found the guy in the video. The name is m christovano pacelli and lives in fort lauderdale..these are his words: "He was incredibly difficult to uproot... like trying to pull a concrete I'm bedded pole out of the ground.. I never encountered any wrestlers that had that... some were just too fast.. or some didn't let you get position and some others just muscled you out.. but his root kept me from honestly getting under him or else I would have had no compunction about throwing the little fucker!... we are friends. .. but that's wasn't the first time we were together doing that... first time we met we had a closed door private session that left doors broken and walls with holes in them.. it wasn't pretty. He would have made an outstanding freestyle or greco wrestler." Plus also said "I don't always throw out all the wrestling accolades.. for one I hate having to make people believe what I earned 17 years ago.. and 2 no one ever believes what they can't see on video so why bother... I live in Fort lauderdale... yes. I would respond that people don't think that much... it wasn't a match. . Just a demo... a demo where just 4 throws were demonstrated... those shows needed force to be applicable. The force was quite real as well as the throws... I attempted them on CZQ and he did them on me. I was unable to use them bc of his low center and grounding and he was able to execute them... People talk too much... no one else is sacrificing themselves to show techniques like that.. or their results. Why would I want to shoot it it's a throwing demo.. that defeats the purpose. If it was a match that would be different. But most people want to break down someone's attempt to show something so they can put their two cents in on topics they no little about... the effort was real.. my semi concussion due to a couple of those throws were real.. and his ability was real... but the very nature of a demo has an element of prediscussed planning... or else its not a demo. What I can tell you is CZQ offered everyone there that day whatever they wanted... if the wanted to throw fists they could.. they could go full tilt if they wanted to.. and no one there did after seeing that. I have also been personally attacked by critics, which is a joke because I offer anyone that wants to challenge me to a no rules throw down the chance... just sign a waiver and comer to FL.. do date. .. NOBODY has taken me up on it. Out of 10,000 critics on the net, maybe 5 are worthy of talking and criticism... the ones that are usually don't do much criticism. They spend their time training and teaching. David Ross Nysanda is one of the wonderful exceptions to the rule... he has decades of experience in competition teaching and scholarship. People like he are few and far between. I'm just a practicioner that uses what I know for work... "

[@gxtmfa]

It’s rather horrifying that people at large were deluded enough to believe this old man stood a chance. How could they allow this to happen?

[@FightCommentary]

Yeah. Something so weird about Chinese culture. Ang Lee in his first movie pushing hands even showed an old Taichi master beating up young people.

[@Omicron9999]

Fuck it, if this guy wants to go around claiming that he can take on actual fighters then the deluded fool deserves everything he gets. Beating these old morons brains out is the only way to make them face reality.

[@skeecats]

Stupid

[@QuangTran22]

@@Omicron9999 agreed. You will see in the chinese's movies,,,they claimed these type of masters can beat the heck out of others Martial arts included the great western boxers, good Japanese fighters. In the their bs movies, they acted like thư real heroes and treated others types like a lowered Martial art can't win them or we have to do some cheating to win them. They drank the hype medications for years. Let them meat the reality.

[@QuangTran22]

@@RagingUtai you are totally wrong my friend. If you have time. Please spend time to watch their history movies,,,really pos. Also, you need to spend time to know about this old man. He hired an MMA Englishman to do some fake fighting clip. Then he edited that clip to his people that he won over that MMA man for real. They are fake, cheating, and world's issue.

[@Truckingsx]

Xu is a real life hero for exposing fake "kung fu masters"

[@kamikatze47]

Maybe Kung fu is fake! I never saw a Real kung fu fighter .

[@laserb3am]

The real Chinese Kungfu is Sanda. But Chinese government prefer letting their people believe they have magic 😂

[@seekersudarshan2078]

@@laserb3am the shaolin monks are also legitimately talented. If they're trained to show aggression, they will make noise in the real combat world. They're more like peaceful warriors.

[@fazares]

@@laserb3am no..sanda is a sport..just like mma

[@terryblejokes]

In the interview later, the person who defeated Ma Baoguo said that he took 3 boxing lessons prior to this fight, and that is basically all he knows about fighting, yet he still easily knocked down Ma Baoguo three times.

[@danielch6662]

Well duh, the other guy is 70. Your reactions are still so much faster than him. When you throw a punch, his brain takes longer to recognize it than it takes your fist to hit his face. It's like you fighting a 30 year old. You'll get killed. Tai Chi guy also never weight trained and has no strength.

[@Ian-yf7uf]

Bruce Lee said a few weeks of boxing and wrestling was enough to beat wing Chun and that's why he made Jeet Kun Do

[@NateVHVT]

In my mind I said this is in a Pai Mei voice "Hahaha finally I have discovered the weakness of Tai Chi.... 2 Straight rights and a right hook. Hahaha!"

[@monkeseeaction21987]

3:47 The MMA guy is just standing there like "who am I, why am I beating up and potentially killing an unarmed old delusional man, WTF am I supposed to do now, is he dead or alive

[@elenchus]

so did he have a Macbeth moment?

[@canaldesugestoesa6651]

@@elenchus yes

[@elenchus]

@@canaldesugestoesa6651 lol

[@Lsy5]

我在那，我是谁？😂

[@iggs67]

It seems MMA guy has been training MMA for 6-8 months.

[@macacofrito]

no one forced him to be there though

[@israelwolstein9351]

This, thank you. He actively campaigned for this.

[@Omicron9999]

@@israelwolstein9351 Yep. If he wanted to talk shit and make out that he could take anyone, this is all his own fault.

[@clacicle]

His ego forced him.

[@Jacob-ky2lk]

太极推手大师李贤春，也就是太极王战军的师兄，也是太极宗师王西安的入室弟子，70岁的李贤春原本确定和马保国来一场老年组比赛，结果突发意外，就在李贤春进行赛前体检的时候，被医生告知不适合参加剧烈运动，医生出于安全角度考虑，赛事组委会本着安全第一，为运动员负责的态度，把马保国先生对手更换为王庆民。虽然李贤春先生非常想参与本次赛事，但是也尊重了组委会决定。

[@robertnew4507]

Yep. He kept getting up and yes to the person who made the ego comment. It is not anyone's fault but his. No guilt should be ascribed to the MMA person.

[@christuxford4462]

It’s sad because as a combat art, Tai Chi completely fails. Age with advanced skill versus a hobbyist should not be a factor. Just watch old Muay Thai coaches spar, and the fight between Charlie Zelenoff and Mayweather senior. I know that my old boxing coach, who’s in his sixties now, would wipe the floor with 90% of hobbyists in combat.

[@FightCommentary]

Yep.

[@dantheman4838]

That's because Mauy Thai and boxing are ligitimately tried and tested martial arts.

[@macamo9991]

A 69yr old in any discipline would get mauled by a young fighter of the same discipline. Remember old Sugar Ray Leonard getting crushed by Hector Camacho. Old Ali getting brutally beat by a young Larry Holmes. A lot of martial arts works against regular untrained people. But verses another skilled person makes a difference.

[@russell1168]

Thai chi is the yoga of kungfu.

[@jailoutafreecard4414]

@@macamo9991 he was only 15 years younger than him and only trained in mma for a year.

[@NoSenatorson]

This kind of fight will make living in a nursing home a whole lot more interesting.

[@cplusmcretired]

At least he can lead activities on Tai Chi day...

[@grammar_shark]

@@cplusmcretired From his wheelchair.

[@Snafu2346]

At this point I'm beginning to think somebody who played Tekken could have beaten that guy. . . Not even Tekken, they could have played Dance Dance Revolution.

[@donflamingo795]

DDR requires a lot of moving around, so it is possible

[@stmaurice2045]

Even a sushi master could have beaten that guy.

[@mochi6963]

@@stmaurice2045 a wanker would beat him

[@QuartzIsAnOxide]

@@donflamingo795 To be fair, most characters from that game are based on real fighting styles.

[@niceuuuu9847]

🤣🤣🤣

[@kunjiklub]

The 70 year old master Ma would later find his 100 year old Mr Miyagi and compete to a win at the All Wuhan Valley karate championship

[@joaofernandes8501]

Tai Chi MAster:"- How I can demonstrate the power of my supreme art, if this guy don't stop to punch me in the face?" ;-;

[@mobaentod9635]

please, im better than this mma guy

[@CancerArpegius]

And the next day he said that the other guy poisoned him with fictional drug that only appears in martial art novels.

[@lm2193]

Tai Chi master is absorbing CHI from the ground to use it against his opponent, not KO.

[@mikerathbun5449]

It's funny how on all the other "No Touch" knock out demonstrations they immediately sit them up, cross their legs, and then smack the back of their neck to get them conscious. I guess when it is real you need a medic who knows not to move them around quickly and slap their necks.

[@grammar_shark]

Good point!

[@monkeseeaction21987]

"This is the Chinese version of Google, it's called Souhu." Baidu quietly cries in the corner

[@FightCommentary]

The common consensus among Chinese people is “Baidu is getting beat by other companies.” 😂😂 Baidu is like the Tai Chi master of tech companies.

[@jamesz8110]

LOL

[@bluesap7318]

Fight Commentary Breakdowns oof

[@simonsim5802]

@@FightCommentary if you said Google equivalent it has to be baidu

[@RitoGooby]

Baidu is the Chinese equivalent of Yahoo Search then XD

[@Speculativedude]

I seriously think Ma Bao Gou thought that if he kept getting up that he would suddenly get a huge power boost like Ip Man does in the movies. (Especially at the end of 4) But he failed to realize that only works with Wing Chun..... And also only in the movies. lol

[@MK_ULTRA420]

Dude thought he was a DBZ Saiyan 😂😂😂

[@rishabiyer958]

He forgot to think about all the friends he made and the family that supports him in every way. He totally forgot the power of family.

[@adamfreeman2348]

yeah its ridiculous. lol

[@lucascosta-mr4mr]

Now I would like to see a fight between an 70 year old MMA guy and a young Tai Chi or Wing Chun guy

[@Kleber932]

Quando vemos no KZbin um cara vestido de lutador e outro vestido de bebê com pijama, já sabemos que vai dar merda

[@russell1168]

Doesn't matter the age of a Thai chi fighter its not a effective fighting art. Wingchung sure thats a effective art.

[@Kleber932]

@@russell1168 is tai chi a fighting art??

[@russell1168]

@@Kleber932 no which is why its not a effective fighting art. Kinda like how almost anything can be used as a weapon but not everything is effective as one.

[@Haliconable]

There will never be a guy like that. Intermediate Tai chi takes 40 years to learn

[@sinanc3761]

I think there should be a warning at the beginning of every Martial Arts movie " Please do not try this in real life"

[@Smiley957]

If i was fighting that old dude i would just stand there and be like “Come on, ill give you 10 seconds to do as much damage as you can” and even then i would probably win

[@akmalidham]

Honestly if it were me fighting these fake master I would just leg kick them ,don't wanna kill these guys

[@FightCommentary]

Yeah. Take the xu Xiaodong approach.

[@steelmongoose4956]

You'd still probably kill them indirectly by giving them deep vein thrombi that became pulmonary emboli. Also, fascinating profile name.

[@RamonNZ]

The commentary said "I can't believe they let this happen", but when you're talking about the sort of people I have no respect or compassion for whatsoever. They've made a probably lots of money teaching tai chi as a fighting style, and probably teach chi techniques which are hocus pocus. Deserved if you are teaching a fighting style, and I see them as not unlike the guy who phones me saying that they are from Microsoft and tries to scam me for money.

[@aplus1080]

Dude. Who gives a shit about the efficacy of a fighting art? Who the shit is fighting in the streets to begin with? Everyone is cosplaying.

[@johnnycolon3208]

@@aplus1080 Wtf are you on about? Lots of people fight in the streets, it's quite common where I come from, especially outside the pub. Efficacy is everything if you don't want your face completely rearranging, you absolute knob.

[@RamonNZ]

@@aplus1080 Haha, well if I got cornered into a fight I'd prefer to have taken some time practicing Jiu-jitsu and Muay Thai, rather than Tai Chi and Kung Fu ;)

[@revanruler6404]

@@RamonNZ kung fu can work but it depends on how you were taught (some kung fu styles were even known to be on par with muay thai)

[@Ricardo__Milos]

@@aplus1080 You're stupid. Tai chi masters are pretending to use spiritual energy (which doesn't exist).

[@MrSuckeragi]

Taichi in combat is like trying to win MMA using Yoga

[@helikos1]

It's basically the same thing. It's a joke. It's horrible seeing this deluded old man drop like a sack of shit.

[@Gaurav_9339]

Yoga is not a martial art or self defence technique. It's just a set of exercises for good stretching and gaining balance.

[@organharvester1983]

@@Gaurav_9339 Yoga fire, yoga flame!

[@widjayagohpeircess5777]

@@Gaurav_9339 exactky

[@Ricardo__Milos]

@@Gaurav_9339 Same as tai chi. Tai chi is the belief that humans can use spiritual energy.

[@sid6554]

This is completely unfair. The MMA hobbyist was holding in a fart and the pent up gas interfered with the master's Chi.

[@nicholaswinters5784]

Tai chi guy's really good friends back at home still can't stop laughing and rolling on the floor and they constantly keep replaying this video with him over and over again

[@Balowell--GG]

Thanks for posting this and translating the writing. It really gives us westerners a much better perspective.

[@geraldbataga7510]

When fantasy meets reality

[@factnow6235]

He ate That hand with his face. Doesn't need to eat for a year.

[@teachersgj5626]

The tai chi master was exhausted from a recent pillow fight i can tell from his pajamas.

[@Nobodyss21]

6:49 Clearly he was using sleeping tiger technique because he also wearing pajamas. This channel is so bias

[@sleepyrowdy1826]

He's go to sleep to restore his chi

[@marcusmjx740]

I wanted to see this guy fight Xu so badly. I guess this works as well lol! Thanks for the breakdown!

[@charleszhang674]

Do you still want Xu to fight him after you see this? I am glad it didn’t happen because Xu would have killed this guy and got himself into huge trouble.

[@MobiusCoin]

I think what you really want in these instances is actually a really high level fighter. They can control how hard they go and while the old dude might be in a for an unpleasant surprise, it'll probably be fine. It's much more dangerous to throw him in there with a hobbyist that's gonna go full blast.

[@FightCommentary]

That’s a very Interesting point!

[@NPS69]

Sometimes a lesson must be taught with some head trauma

[@timlproc9887]

Meh even a hobbyist should of realised oldman is outclassed by the way he moved. Could of made him tap from a body blow.

[@chrischanshihyung3155]

I think u only need Xu xiao Dong where he put his hands down and let u strike him to show the whole world its bullshit. Because u can easily imagine these "master" can construed it as how they did amazing against the high level. And some will actually believe it.

[@elenchus]

i think this is where BJJ comes in, but you don't get to demonstrate how useless their striking is that way. It would be very easy to do a relatively gentle takedown like o goshi at half speed, followed by kuzure kesa gatame, go to side control, and get an americana, without doing any lasting damage to the guy. But in China, striking is considered much more valuable, and kickboxing is very popular there. So I think this would not have had the impact on the audience because no one wants to do BJJ.

[@machete4539]

That first contact was my face to your fist style

[@vikingsen2024]

I feel sorry about the taichi master.. Have a restful sleep..😪😪😪

[@pokemasterdark707]

This is funny as hell😂 his stance, his kick after standing for the second time is funny af. His moves are very amateur like. He doesn't cover his face and let's his body open which is silly. I might probably beat him LOL

[@Omicron9999]

This is why we keep saying Traditional Martial Arts don't work, people. This old dude is supposed to be a master of multiple disciplines, and he's about as much of a threat to the MMA guy as a toddler. He's never really fought anyone in his life, all his sparring has been against people who use the same ineffectual disciplines as himself. When all you're used to fighting is guys who can't actually fight, YOU can't fight either.

[@Quantum3691]

They're more like many martial arts movie fanatics who believe everything in the movies is real.

[@DarkwarriorJ]

" all his sparring has been against people who use the same ineffectual disciplines as himself" TBH if he did at least that much, said disciplines would quickly learn to be effective. This looks more like they never actually sparred in any real way at all. " When all you're used to fighting is guys who can't actually fight, YOU can't fight either." I mean, I'd expect average streetfighter level if they actually fought other guys who can't fight xD . This is way below.

[@YokaiX]

The thing about China’s view on this is: “put your money where your mouth is. You say your Kung fu is legit and good, and you would destroy an MMA fighter? Put your skills and honor on it, and defend your honor/claims.” While the Chinese gov roots for the traditional Kung fu side

[@MK_ULTRA420]

Deep down the CCP knows that they're the reason traditional kung fu is dead and replaced with tai chi which is basically standing yoga with some striking.

[@Marrikable]

@@MK_ULTRA420 Traditional kung fu just isn't very good. There's a reason that MMA tournaments are always full of guys who do western boxing+judo/jiu jitsu; it's because that's the best form there is. In the early days of MMA, there used to be a much wider range of martial arts used, but over time other styles stopped being used because they just couldn't compete.

[@MK_ULTRA420]

@@Marrikable Not just that, during Mao's era, many kung fu masters were shot dead by PLA soldiers to the point where no one truly knows how much knowledge was lost. Probably not much according to MMA.

[@gwappo4852]

I don’t support physically beating elders but did the Tai Chi master really took 730 days delaying a fight against a MMA fighter just to be slept by an Amateur. 😂😂😂

[@yhong9733]

The MMA hobbyist was like WTF? He was shocked too

[@Ricardo__Milos]

A total amateur. This dude kept hitting the face against someone that had no way to defend themselves. After the first hit in the head they should've aim for the body.

[@Lil380wittakixk]

Master Wong vs Xu Xiadong?

[@PakiFighter]

Wong will never do that. He is a chicken.

[@akmalidham]

@@RagingUtai nah man master Wong doesn't know how to fight, I don't even think he's ever had a sparring match

[@42svb58]

@@RagingUtai wrestling with blow up dolls is called somethinge else. The CCP doesn't want a strong group of fighters outside of their influence... Anything that would threaten their image or egos is going to be spun off ridiculously or censored. Mayweather senior fought a sucker punch kid and chased him out of the ring several times using skill.

[@akmalidham]

@@RagingUtai ok I just watched his latest video on escaping head locks and the very first thing he did was tell the guy to tackle him and he defends with a standing gulletine and falls forward ,I've done enough grappling to know that's not a good idea, youth and power does not matter when people have trained better then you ,Charlie zelanoff for example

[@leedane2694]

Hardly .. because master wong is smart ..

[@medullaoblongata9670]

Oh well ..... on the positive side he did get a great view of the roof!.

[@entoythedragon8463]

Imagine if the fight with Xu Xiaodong, did happen in 2018. A younger, experienced, stronger and angrier Xu Xiaodong.

[@cfG21]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/moWzYml-hauAo9U

[@adamfreeman2348]

he might be in prison for manslaughter now, knowing the hypocritical communist government, corrupt police and court system, and the chinese publics deluded mindset at that time. they knew it was a death match, that is why the police were called to save ma gou's life!!!

[@Bodkin_Ye_Pointy]

Dudes, I sort of get your statement that an older person can get killed by a knockout. However, I am nearly 63 and still have my muscle mass and strong bones. The last time I took a spill off my push bike I was 60 and got nothing more than bruises and a fractured ego. So bear in mind that the susceptibility to injury and fragility depends on flexibility and level of exercise even in your 60's.

[@FightCommentary]

Very true!

[@whitealliance9540]

Respect for pronouncing the names correctly brother . thanks

[@alexfage5067]

In all those fights, you can know how it will end just by looking how they move during the approach. I don't know what Ma is doing but he's stumbling like he needs to pee...omg u_u'

[@मादरचोदमैतेरारिप्लाइनहींपढ़ेगा]

Old man was not deluded...he was fake and he knew it...Why did he hire a mma fighter to make a fake clip which showed him win...he could have tried his skills with that mma fighter for real...but he didn't..why????...I think he knew the reality...

[@kadeonines5178]

I think he started out knowing he was a fraud, but deluded himself. Why would he accept a fight with the MMA fighter if he knew he would lose?

[@elenchus]

@@kadeonines5178 this is just my speculation, but because he dodged his last fight, I'm guessing he sort of talked himself into a corner again, but this time the calvary didn't come to save him so he had to follow through because to walk away at that point would have even been more destructive to his business

[@MasterZhang]

My theory is that it's a weeding out exercise. Same reason why the Nigerian princes always send you emails written in extremely poor English, because if you can fall for that even when written so poorly, you're definitely the kind of guy who will give them your banking info so they can send your money from their offshore account that they currently don't have access to.

[@projacques07]

He doesn't have it in him, but he have the money, why not make himself a winner with that. Anywayz the fake Master have been on his throne for too long, and thnx to his pride n ego, his disciple got a true awakening.

[@guslevy3506]

“They stopped the fight too early!!” - Tai Chi dude

[@cfG21]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/moWzYml-hauAo9U

[@thomasmuller7-159]

3:41 imagine this was a punch from Deontay Wilder.

[@lappodamy5826]

Thomas Muller 7-1 to the morgue he goes.

[@vaiyt]

a half decent nak muay would be enough to decapitate that guy

[@vgamedude12]

They are grown men deciding to do this if they want to risk it they can.

[@sc-mh8hy]

Such a long video for a 20 seconds lasting (s)laughter

[@David-zy1jw]

His excuse is even funnier. He told reporters that he thought they're not allowed to hit for real, but simply "touch-based", but he was blindsided when the MMA fighter hit for real. LOL

[@MiaRyanne]

You'd think he might have figured that out on one of the first two knockdowns...lol

[@yvonnesanders4308]

Hell I'm getting back in to the gym and challenge these pyjama men.

[@ChariotOfFaith]

I fought better than this in a schoolyard fight when I was in year 7, with zero training.

[@WhiteOak09]

It's kinda sad , these "masters" believe their own BS.

[@Fighterxlll]

Damn came over from your insta. That ref my god, tai chi guy was on baby deer legs after that first flash knockout. Pride and delusion are killing traditional martial arts’ legitimacy. Compete, spar, and be real with your fighting capabilities.

[@gomgom9060]

read an article about the pre fight, the ref legit said "when the guy falls and i said stop please stop" to the tai chi guy believing the tai chi guy to murder the mma hobbyist. lmaoo

[@gomgom9060]

amp.scmp.com/sport/martial-arts/mixed-martial-arts/article/3085441/referee-asked-tai-chi-master-ma-baoguo-show

[@metalandpunksuck]

You know at my school there are vary few Tai Chi students that do Jiu Jitsu. But there is one guy who uses his relax power from tai chi and uses it in Jiu Jitsu. His take down game is really good. I suppose by mixing the styles it could be useful.

[@kaikart123]

Yeah, we call that MMA

[@cfG21]

@@kaikart123 kzbin.info/www/bejne/moWzYml-hauAo9U

[@TravelasJuan]

The other is cheating he punched him... In the face. 😂

[@cfG21]

Try this one kzbin.info/www/bejne/moWzYml-hauAo9U

[@karenrompis6989]

MMA community: how many times do we have to teach you this lesson old man?

[@FreedomIsntFree-gd2hg]

China: “We can beat you because we have Kung Fu “ USA: “Just bring it on....”

[@dalmar23]

Its not rly case of style. When u bring even a hobby fighter against old and fake wannabe magician the outcome can be only one

[@aquarius7343]

They're not real doing real kungfu tho

[@mellamojeff458]

@@aquarius7343 no the ccp is pushing traditional martial arts as some magical thing that can make all your opponents fall in one hit and jump around shit while mma is used by dirty savages with no technique all in the name of name of nationalism, the dude who fought multiple "masters" has been harassed and social credits dropped by the ccp, kung fu and tai chi and most traditional styles all have terrible techniques that can never work in a actual street fight but against the same user of the style

[@chicoscience502]

6:48 damn he went into deep meditation in the middle of a fight? now thats gangsta.

[@charleskumaran6050]

Legend is he is still meditating 😂.

[@skeecats]

Tai chi is for fitness and excersise for old people, it isn't a fighting art.

[@MrSuckeragi]

yeah, its like trying to enter mma using Yoga...

[@Mharriscreations]

It's a great fighting art...If you actually know what it's meant for, which is clinch fighting and sweeps. The problem is that most people make it into something it isn't. They either think it's a crazy Kung Fu movie style of fighting or some sort of Yoga. It isn't. It's essentially Shuaijiao (Chinese standing wrestling/Chinese Judo) with clinch striking. But sadly, most people in China don't know this either.

[@smokeclouds8]

It's actually for everybody and can really help you with warm up and help recover from the harder training for fighting. It does have technique for fighting like grappling and striking but today's taichi on its own it wont be effective against mma. IMO An mma fighter could learn a lot from taichi, it would only make them better.

[@smokeclouds8]

Taichi really improves your balance which is crucial for combat, it teaches you how to roll with punches and other strikes and it also has effective grappling. Yes, a lot of old people do it but they don't touch the strengthening or combat aspect of it and most practitioners in the public eye are shit. When you watch a younger kungfu master who competed in Sanda or something to that effect who actually uses taichi techniques properly with speed and power you'll be shocked how different it seems. Of course it won't stand up to MMA because mma is designed to take the best parts out of every martial art. Most traditional martial arts were developed isolated from the others and wont stand up to mma. In Kungfu you're encourage to cross train with other martial arts to learn as much as you can similar to mma, that's why you see so many kungfu styles.

[@cfG21]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/moWzYml-hauAo9U

[@ZeyBerlin_Baez]

You sound like a rick and morty character👍🏽

[@elenchus]

uh gee rick i don't know if it's a good idea to fight this mma fighter rick

[@Woody-nc1ru]

After that first knock down, the way little chi guy was walking around like he pooood a little.😁

[@lunchboxlewis2495]

Xu is going to have his own movie one day, we may not get to see it but im calling it tight now.

[@rifqiaji5031]

3:18 Thai ci secret stance called, flying to heaven. It can really bring you to heaven

[@BlackOps78321]

He tried to match fix and cheat but the guy still was way outclassing him, wow.

[@thearbiter6350]

Idk how these so called masters keep thinking they can win when they never been in a real fight..theyre just going to continue loosing with no experience.

[@quasihornet3516]

Nice intro

[@chbjj]

Great reporting!

[@hmong_keeb_kwm]

I don't care what master you are. When your 60 years old please know your place. My grandpa is in his 70s and he's a lay back guy knowing what he can't do anymore. But when he was younger he was a soldiers and like he told me he don't know how many communists soldiers he had kill in his younger days. And said if war ever break out again it will be my war not his and even if he want he can't at his age knowing his place at his age.

[@FightCommentary]

Great point!!

[@iggs67]

Which war? Where did he "killed" communist soldiers. I'm just curious, cause I grew up in USSR and served in Soviet Army in 80s. I don't live in Russia anymore and consider myself a Canadian, but I smell bullshit in your post.

[@hmong_keeb_kwm]

@@iggs67 sorry if you smell bullshit and i hope you can smell BBQ instead it smell better. My Grandpa was part of the Hmong SGU Secret Army in charge of protecting Laos region 2 from the Communist Pathet Lao troops and the Communist NVA troops. We live in the U.S.A now but over sea in Laos the Hmong Chao Fa resistances troops continue to resist the communist to this very day. www.pbs.org/video/the-hmong-and-the-secret-war-zwwpgu/

[@wowoh3430]

。。。。。。

[@dsr4902]

*"If Sambo was easy, it would be called Jiu Jitsu."* - Khabib the greatest of all time Nurmagomedov

[@aplus1080]

Imagine a world where you drop a relevant quote.

[@elenchus]

Was the video slowed down or was the MMA fighter taking it that easy on him? It looked like he was going at 75% speed.

[@FightCommentary]

He was definitely going 75% speed. A full Xu Xiaodong punch probably would have killed the Ma dude.

[@elenchus]

@@FightCommentary wow, and that's all it took to floor him. I think we need to be doing a format of BJJ, using only BJJ, vs kung fu using anything going forward. It'll limit the damage to the kung fu people if it's submission only for one side.

[@christopherk2841]

@@elenchus why do mma fighters need to be handicapped when "taichi is superior?"

[@elenchus]

@@christopherk2841 I think he self-handicapped to protect the old guy's health. If the guy had been 30 or even 40, maybe he'd have gone full-force.

[@efarjeonfgc]

@@christopherk2841 Because with handicaps, the weak, untested and often-detrimental-to-their-practitioners nature of these useless arts are even better demonstrated.

[@link2442]

0:01 call of the turkey? 🤨

[@Demetrius4278ddfgg8]

When you zoomed forward to see when he gets up and he doesn't 🤣🤷‍♂️

[@q.carswell]

Out, looking like he's in a casket

[@henryfrancis9533]

😅🤣

[@thepeople4714]

I think i will invite my grandma to fight one of the chinese taichi master LOL maybe she'll win...

[@ktthao5224]

2 to 1 in favor of your grandma

[@came4861]

Tai chi, good to stay healthy and focused, bad for taking a punch! 🤣

[@juanpablogonzalez8528]

That intro was great

[@jezzaboi2168]

Clearly the shoes were blocking his qi

[@awonoto]

Nah, he just didn't eat his third bowl of rice.

[@jayibakumarra]

It's not easy to win when you're fighting some one who doesn't play pretend.

[@adgepeterb]

Was looking to get my son into tai chi for self defense, looks like ill stick to kick boxing and ji jit su.. joke discipline

[@ሕያው]

I think that as a pure fighting MA its not comparable but I believe it still teaches you a lot about balance and develops a grrater mind to body connection. Of course it should be used in conjunction with others MAs. Kinda lile yoga or how pro football players do ballet.

[@BTboxing]

Good call tai Chi isnt really made for fighting

[@Nobodyss21]

Atleast your son can become yoga trainer and tea making expert if he decided to learn tai chi

[@whoooshifg5830]

I recommend HEMA and kali

[@NphiniT]

I was 19 WTF fighter and challenged a Pro fighter (Retired Kickboxer). Got the lesson of my life. He just allowed me to throw my kicks around. Then I got hit real hard across my face by God-knows-what. My vision got blurry and I just sat down. Been looking for an actual MMA gym or school ever since. Not many of those around here (Am from Ghana!)

[@kestutisvaiciunas8663]

Xiao is actually 41 years old. And if the "martial" artists claim they can beat them - then it's their fault for following up on their BS instead of saying "no, i won't beat you sorry, you win"

[@YikiMedia]

Tai Chi is not a martial Art this is Stupid !! you can't fight using Tai Chi Bro it is only like Yoga