$999 COSTCO echelon EX4s vs $385 COSTCO Proform Tour de France

[@TailHappyTV]

is the echelon ex4s worth over double the price of the budget Costco bike? 0:00 intro 3:00 components analysis 9:40 proform ride comments 11:20 proform max resistance 11:45 echelon ex4s ride comments 12:40 echelon ex4s max resistance 13:43 drive train feel compare 14:20 summary

[@526Liss]

I got my Echelon EX 4S at Costco last Sunday and I love it 🥰 I found that Echelon Community is great. Thanks for your videos .

[@TailHappyTV]

Awesome Liss! Thanks for sharing, the ex4s is a nice bike. Happy riding!

[@526Liss]

@@TailHappyTV thank you !

[@brysonfreeze]

Finally got the Proform today, thank you for your awesome content!

[@teatimeinthealpine5752]

Hey I’ve really been enjoying watching these videos. I am primarily eyeing the proform cx bike and the proform studio bike. I slightly more then the Tour de France, but appears to be a lot better. I think a lot of people are in the same boat with me as well. You certainly have bought enough bikes, but I’d love to see a review of either one of those. I also think it’d be a very popular video! I’m glad to see your channel having success!

[@TailHappyTV]

Thanks man, I feel like enough people have asked about the cx and studio for me to get them sometime soon. I did get the nordictrack s22i and compared it to the peloton, nordictrack is the same parent company as proform and the s22i is the flagship bike. Thanks again, will consider these proform bikes.

[@teatimeinthealpine5752]

@@TailHappyTV yup! I’m an Alpinist and primarily do my training on Nordictrack’s incline trainer. I’d love the S22I but I wouldn’t use it enough to justify the cost. I use the incline trainer daily, and only use my bike once a week on my recovery day. That’s the reason I’m interested in the CX over the S22I. I also pay for Ifit already so that is another reason I’m only interested in the nordictrack/proform/freemotion gear. Thanks again brother!

[@kichoforrest]

Could you compare the Costco ProForm to the Costco Inspire IC 1.5?

[@ginaroscioli7445]

On Echelon ex4, can you get the metrics for from through the app and use a tablet to do peloton classes? Or do you need to pay for the ifit subscription for your metrics?

[@B-gh6xo]

Love your videos! I bought the IC4 after watching just about every video you have. Also, the bike is cheaper direct from Schwinn at the moment, but may take 4 weeks to ship...

[@dianegatzke7609]

What do you think of the Proform combo bike/elliptical? It doesn't have its own screen but I can connect to a tablet. I got it from costco a few years ago. Honestly haven't used it much. I'm supposed to be able to connect with IFIT. The bike is recumbent. I'm trying to decide to stay with it or get the Echelon 4s at costco on sale $799

[@abdoulemseffer6780]

Which bike provides the incline and decline feature? Thanks,

[@edgebasics]

Could you compare the Costco ProForm to the Costco Inspire IC 1.5? It usually sells for $599 but was on sale at my local Costco for $420. I’m not able to find any information out there on the bike.

[@kendra4289]

Hey, you should review the inspire ic 1.5. I just got one for Christmas and it's pretty good but there isn't a lot of info about it on youtube.

[@edgebasics]

Yes, I’ve been looking for reviews on the Inspire ic 1.5 one and can’t find anything.

[@Tom-bo4jj]

Also would love an Inspire IC1.5 from Costco review if you are ever able to do so. It seems like a better quality bike when compared to the Costco Proform and would like to see how it stacks up against the Costco Echelon 4s.

[@MattFoushee]

Great content, as always

[@jdpaeth]

Great vid as always! Going to repeat my request here for the NordicTrac S10i from Costco. Thanks!

[@TailHappyTV]

Did you see it at a costco store or just the website?

[@jdpaeth]

@@TailHappyTV It is in my local Costco in Meridian, ID. And it is also on their site for a higher price due to shipping costs. In club price is $1180

[@TailHappyTV]

@@jdpaeth wow, nice. Will look into it. Did you see my s22i video? I think they share a lot of similarities

[@jdpaeth]

@@TailHappyTV I just checked it out! I think the S10i at Costco may be the way I end up going. You mention it (s22i) is a good bike for a road biker looking for indoor training options and thats exactly what my wife and I need. Thanks for the great content!!

[@iamscottr]

Great review. Looking at the best bike to use for Zwift using the qDomyos-Zwift app. These both seem to be compatible.

[@edmckelvey2864]

I'm wondering the same thing at the moment. You may have heard but this bike just went on sale at Costco for only $800 today. I think the integration with Zwift or other platforms could be done but might be a bit of work and not fully integrate.

[@iamscottr]

Yes, just bought it will report back. Sounds like you bypass the built in screen, but 799!

[@TheEmrickman]

@@iamscottr Any luck? Could you synch with your phone or ipad? Did you have to disconnect the tablet for it to synch?

[@iamscottr]

@@TheEmrickman yes, works well. I use a Samsung S8 to run the qDomyos-Zwift app. Just turn the Echelon monitor off and it connects right up. Then open Zwift on my laptop and it recognizes the S8. It will not control resistance, but works well. I bought a dual vesa mount arm so I can mount the laptop and Echelon monitor side by side.

[@SebastianFalcon]

Can you just use an app like apple fitness + or Apple Watch to track metrics without having to use iFit?

[@TheEmrickman]

Can we get a comparison between the echelon ex4s and he Keiser m3i? I'm down to deciding between those two

[@TheEmrickman]

And the echelon is $200 off on sale this week.

[@nelsbackstrom4493]

I feel like the fly wheel is not balanced is that something that can be adjusted. My wife says it’s wobbles all over the place

[@ingajackson6108]

Thank you very much this video helped me tremendously

[@miguelhidalgo3065]

Great review,

[@myboringAlife]

Does the ex4 allow you to use the touchscreen for other apps?

[@marclemar]

I’m about to mod my Pro-form by moving my the buttons down under the hump on the handle bars with zip ties. Then I can use my tablet or mount a screen. The pro form is uncomfortable but I got it for $250 on offer up. So I’m torn on whether I should keep it or sell it and buy something else

[@nieves262]

Echelon ex4 have a discount of 300 in Costco or proform in 385 They placed this week a discount of 300 dollars to the exchelon ex4 or the proform tour a 385 finally which should I buy I saw the video.

[@robedwards6926]

Does the Echelon Ex4 have auto resistance?

[@rociofolsom3684]

have you experience a rattle noise in the proform tour the france from costco ? i have been using it for the last 2 months and I started to hear this noise (clicking, rattle) that seems is coming from the front wheel (side) , I'm wondering if you have heard or experience the same problem.

[@laurad8235]

I’m looking to buy a bike what is a good quality bike in the $600-$1000.00 range. I really don’t want to pay for a $39.00 membership but the echelon bikes that come with the screens can you use other apps with them.

[@the.mermaid.scientist]

Just in case you have not yet decided: I got a Bowflex C6 for $800 plus tax. Exact same as Schwinn IC4. I have had it for just over a month and I'm quite happy with it. Alternately, from all I've seen and researched, Sunny SF-B1805.

[@derrickmcelroy6224]

Is there a TailHappy score for the Echelon EX4s?

[@TailHappyTV]

Not yet

[@jmdayton12]

@@TailHappyTV Soon? Not that it matters as I bought that bike last week. Pretty good so far.

[@tonynguyen5362]

I was in the market for beginner indoor cycling bikes, found your channel and went to Costco purchased Proform, I like it very much, you are correct on the proform seat it is very uncomfortable , any recommendation replacing the seat.

[@TailHappyTV]

Thanks for leaving me this comment! As far as seat recommendations, I really can't offer you much there because everybody has their own preference. A lot of people choose to put some sort of bike saddle gel cover and that helps them, but maybe what you are looking for is a wider seat

[@tonynguyen5362]

@@TailHappyTV thanks -I'll looking for wider seat, for now I add throw pillow while riding, seem to help , with training I'm sure my rear end will get used to the seat.

[@TailHappyTV]

@@tonynguyen5362 lol a throw pillow? I love that, whatever gets the job done!

[@barbararod9]

Can you review the EX5S from Costco?

[@paramjitmultani9231]

How to fix padel

[@watch2learn509]

What is the best bike under 600 ? Thank you

[@a.s.7337]

Great review. What do you suggest for very sensitives backsides. I would like a lot of cushion. Can I purchase a special seat?

[@SamBachman]

Great video.....I have a Bike+ on order for delivery in a few weeks but since I already have Fitness+, Apple Watch/TV, the idea of $39/month is not exciting. I saw these two bikes at costco so the question on my mind, what is the highest quality bike for $2500 or less assuming I don’t want to use a monthly service of more than let’s say Fitness+ which will likely be sufficient. I do like high quality but not sure it is worth it to get the Bike+ to use with Fitness+ in a year if I don’t pay for the $39 monthly fee. So the question is what are the best spin bikes from $500 to $2500 for Fitness Plus or flexible to use with other apps like swift, peloton app, etc?

[@TailHappyTV]

schwinn ic4 is a great one, i have many vids on it. also i bet the echelon ex3 is just as good as the ex4s and it has no screen. need to review more open platform bikes in a higher budget range. hope this helps and thanks for the compliment Sam!

[@martamichalene3527]

I love that this is your kitchen 😊

[@Ridahboy380]

Hello, have you ever tried out the Keiser M3i indoor bike?

[@williamchisholm3066]

Brandon, you have done it now, TailHappy will be ordering it tonight :}

[@Ridahboy380]

@@williamchisholm3066 Lol you're right.

[@strawberryyogurt0]

iFit cost (as of 2/20/21) Yearly Family Plan: $396/yr ($33/month) Monthly Family Plan: $39/month ($468/year) Yearly Individual Plan: $180/yr ($15/month)

[@topskycn]

I bought the Proform bike after viewing this review along with some other clips. After a few rides, I soon realised this annoying iFit low resistance bug - a lot of the workout has a resistance of 1-3 which is a joke, or max 7 resistance for the most intensive workout. I am fairly confident this was a iFit program issue where the resistance has not been calibrated properly for this bike as the bike’s max resistance is 16. I am gutted that I did not see those discussions before my purchase and have not seen any KZbin video highlighting such an annoying bug which greatly reduce the usability of this bike. Although in theory this can be addressed by a software update fairly easily, there have been several months since people reported this issue to iFit and proform. So my hope for a quick fix is not high. Again, this is really annoying and disappointing for an otherwise excellent bike.

[@mattmatzner8749]

Great review, do you know of any quality bikes with a decent amount of resistance that have “freewheel” flywheels? Looking for a stationary bike to do intervals on and don’t want a fixed flywheel. Any help you could be is MUCH appreciated!

[@TailHappyTV]

I'm not sure of any spin bikes that have a free flywheel, have you looked into buying a bike trainer?

[@mattmatzner8749]

@@TailHappyTV yes but I also need the bike for clients in my studio so I need it to be an actual stationary bike like those in gyms. Outside of buying a commercial $5K stationary bike, I’m just looking for one with decent resistance that has a freewheel. The Schwinn 170 has one but the resistance is hilariously weak. Problem is companies don’t put it in the specifications section on their website so I’m browsing KZbin for reviews and general videos to see if it has it while people ride them. Glad I found your channel though, enjoyed your video on the sequoia trees 👍

[@TailHappyTV]

@@mattmatzner8749 thanks man, miss it out there in the mountains, want to go back soon. I started looking for flywheel spin hokes after you asked, I dont see anything coming up really. I did test the 170 at a sporting good store and now that you mention it I do recall it had a freewheel, but it is not a normal spin bike in many ways, up right, and just generally doesn't offer a real spin expereience.

[@mattmatzner8749]

@@TailHappyTV Thanks for looking around a bit, and yeah the 170 Schwinn really just doesn't have tough gearing whatsoever even though it's an upright bike that should offer it. As an exercise physiologist it's odd that they'd make a bike that won't even get ones heart rate up much at all. As far as spinning goes, I'm not really looking for a "spin" experience so much as I want something that I can have people do intervals on while also offering safety, which spin bikes don't when you truly put >95% maximum effort into fr 15-20 seconds as the flywheel going too fast for people and it has a decently high probability of causing injury to novice to moderate exercisers. I'm thinking I'm going to go with both a rogue echo fan bike since the fan slows down immediately by its nature even thought the flywheel is fixed with the crank and I'm going to buy a precor upright bike as those are rocksolid upright bikes with a freewheel flywheel with amazing gearing and are durable as all hell. Btw, did you see peloton just bought precor?

[@brianlee1933]

Great to see all the vs videos. What's the best of all the like 10 bikes you have now? Lol

[@TailHappyTV]

Either bike+ or s22i, both are over $2k each

[@brianlee1933]

@@TailHappyTV thanks, it would be awesome to have a recap tiering video. Not sure if you have one already

[@quynhphan4591]

I purchased the per forms bike at Costco. 100 dollars off, 289 purchase price.

[@beagoodperson7986]

I'm planning to buy it too this week.

[@ChristopherRobinMusic]

LOVE YOUR VIDEOS! I got the ProForm because of the price but havent been able to fight the "best" position.. Im 6'00 have you tried lowering the seat? i wonder if thats good or harmful? lol HELPPPP

[@TailHappyTV]

riding position is one of the downfalls of this bike in my opinion, holes are spaced far, handlebars don't move forward and backward. its a good value but aggressive riding position for us tall folks. have you seen the big brother, the s22i? i heard the s10i is in some costco locations. i have a few videos on the s22i, more to come.

[@duanebAK]

Just watched all the EX4s videos of yours. Loved them all since I’m in the market for Costco bike. My one question is, does the ex4s echelon app and classes automatically change the resistance on the bike, Like the Ifit app will do with the proform?

[@jmdayton12]

No they don't, its a feature I wish they had

[@stokesc3]

Have you ever compared the proform Tour de France Costco to the proform tc sold at dicks

[@sheppo]

Shame the Proform TDF CBC can't be 'hacked' to make work with Zwift like the Proform TDF Pro can. It'd make it such an easy purchase decision.

[@redeemedgamr]

Thanks for your videos. I bought the EX4s. Its nice, but I had to order a different seat, definitely not made for fat boys.

[@stokesc3]

Sorry it’s the proform pro tc