Take Back Your Health - with Dr. Robert H. Lustig | The Empowering Neurologist EP. 122

The Source of Our Most Challenging Epidemic
As you may recall, the last time we had the opportunity to interview Dr. Robert Lustig was when he published The Hacking of the American Mind, elucidating how the processed food industry has hacked our bodies and minds to pursue pleasure over happiness, fueling widespread addiction and depression. I'm excited to let everyone know that we again have the opportunity to feature Dr. Robert Lustig on the podcast talking about his new book METABOLICAL. This new work addresses nutrition, food science, and global health, and explains how by focusing on real food we can reverse chronic disease and promote longevity. For the first time, all strands of this pandemic-the medical, the economic, and the environmental-are pulled together into one clear narrative. And to be sure, the pandemic we are referring to is the pandemic of chronic, noninfectious, preventable diseases, not COVID-19.
Describing the eight pathologies within the cell that belie all chronic disease, Dr. Lustig illustrates how they are not “druggable” but rather “foodable” (i.e. medication can’t cure what nutrition can) by following two basic principles: protect the liver, and feed the gut. He uses this science to chronicle the breakdown in our current healthcare paradigm, which has succumbed to influence from Big Food, Big Pharma, and Big Government. In the special chapter “Food in the Time of Corona,” Dr. Lustig addresses the way “pre-existing conditions” (i.e. diet-induced chronic diseases) make us vulnerable to succumbing to acute infectious diseases like COVID-19. He also argues that the Nutrition Facts label hides information from the consumer by omitting what’s been done to the food, which is more important than what’s in the food.
Weaving together the interconnected strands of nutrition, disease, medicine, environment, and society, METABOLICAL provides the scientific bases for a series of iconoclastic revelations, among them:
Medicine for chronic disease only treats symptoms, not the disease itself
You can diagnose your own biochemical profile
Processed food isn’t just toxic, it’s addictive
The war between vegan and keto is a false war-the combatants are on the same side
Big Food, Big Pharma, and Big Government are on the other side
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Our guest, Robert H. Lustig, M.D., MSL, is professor of pediatrics in the Division of Endocrinology and a member of the Institute for Health Policy Studies at University of California, San Francisco. He has authored 120 peer-reviewed articles and 70 reviews. He has mentored 30 pediatric endocrine fellows and trained numerous other allied health professionals. He is the former chairman of the Obesity Task Force of the Pediatric Endocrine Society, a member of the Obesity Task Force of the Endocrine Society, and a member of the Pediatric Obesity Devices Committee of the U.S. Food and Drug Administration. He is also the president of the nonprofit Institute for Responsible Nutrition, dedicated to reversing childhood obesity and Type 2 Diabetes. He consults for several childhood obesity advocacy groups and government agencies.
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[@patsylutz7011]

I am 64 years old and 100 % healthy but nobody wants to hear why. It is because I spend my free time learning about nutrition.

[@laurieparis2203]

It's a great hobby with many benefits.

[@Luciana-Superluci-Marchi]

Me too!

[@harryviking6347]

I am 68, doing the same thing and also running up and down our local mountains! Never had an health issue!

[@Marx1963]

@@harryviking6347 exactly got to be your own health advocate! I’m 57 and eat this stuff up like a raccoon in a dumpster!!!

[@harryviking6347]

Amen! Lol!

[@lisengel2498]

I love the phrase “To fix disease you have to avoid it” - its the food - exercise is fine but you cannot outrun a bad diet.

[@jerrylisby3440]

True but running saved my life. I ate very unhealthy growing up. My Mom was too sick to cook by the time I was 10. My brother and I lived on sugar cereals, cookies, and TV dinners. Had tonsils removed at 10 years old. I knew nothing of health. I got colds and flu's every year. God touched a classmate in junior high to invite me to run track. He thought I was a good runner after seeing me run in gym. I started running the mile with him. Then ran both mile and 2 mile races in High School. Looking back I think I would have been dead before I was 30 if it wasn't for him. I was very shy. Running really helped me. What I hate is if I would have known about healthy eating I would have probably been a state champion. But I always ran out of energy. I wasn't out of breath. My body would not cooperate with my drive. I was fast. I practiced hard. A little story. 😄

[@melissafiorini1554]

Mine too!

[@lisasommerlad1337]

@@jerrylisby3440 is it too late, though?

[@jerrylisby3440]

@@lisasommerlad1337 depends I guess. But a good diet is more important than exercise but might as well do both.

[@youtuber1650]

I'm trying to outrun and outsmart by beer consummation. I think it won't work.

[@discretebear4115]

My grandmother was right when she told me to eat good basic food. Her diet was simple - meat, vegetables, fruits, no frills or anything processed. She was the longest lived and remained in the best shape of all my grandparents and even parents until the very end of her life.

[@thehylers1021]

Our family as well. On our farm we grew everything we ate including livestock. Now we have corporations getting rich getting us sick with processed food, and getting rich selling us their meds.

[@snarecat3441]

Yes. Eat good foods. Not too much. Excersise. Laugh often, be good to people, animals and yourself. Enjoy every moment that you have! Keep on the move .

[@bobmcbride3550]

Not too long ago we didnt mainline sugar and too many carbs. Now i have to keep my carb on a very short leash

[@angieloishome3583]

But we have to remember that fruit is sugar.

[@karlbillinger9945]

@@angieloishome3583 It’s good fruit if you don’t juice it. Or smash it to bits in a smoothie. Fibre cancels out the fructose sugars.

[@retiredbitjuggler3471]

I just ordered the book. I first started looking at nutrition as a possible treatment for my medical issues a little over a year ago. I love my doctor (he diagnosed a rare hereditary disorder that most likely resulted in my mother’s premature passing and gave me back the past 30 years when no other doctor could help me), but he doubted my efforts would do anything to get me off of my many meds. However, no only did I open my own eyes, but I caught his attention too. I’ve spent my time on a quest to exert all my efforts on reducing my insulin levels. That was my focus and it has resulted in me dumping 75 pounds and becoming much more metabolically healthy. In fact, I no longer require any of my prior prescriptions. He is not yet convinced that I can sustain this, but I am now under his microscope. He commented, “You should write a book if you are able to maintain your progress!” - my response to him was that there are already hundreds of them written, we just have to get people to read them!

[@user-fx5df1ur4m]

@retiredbitjuggler3471 Are you willing to share with us your strategies about reducing your insulin levels, pls? It was just the consequence of losing those 75 pounds? Or did you schedule alse gym sessions, special nutrients, etc?

[@lindaturgeon1618]

I agree completely. I am almost off my auto immune drugs, went on Keto a couple months ago and feel great!

[@winbalingit8502]

Dr. Robert Lustig is a real American hero!! Thank you so much for this!!!!🙏🏽👍🏽✌🏽

[@Osoba333]

He's world wide hero !

[@youtuber1650]

He says intelligently what is known by everybody. A true hero will break that societal acceptance of sugar, the biggest toxin in our world. Still waiting.

[@margoquintana2283]

You don't have to keep to the party line now that you're retired. But just think of how many do. . . medical research and Big Pharmacy are bzillion $ money makers in the US. They have a vested interest in keeping Americans of all ages sick. The food industry is in bed with them to make it all happen. Innocent little kids are eating horrible food. I fed my kids in the standard American breakfast fare, and ate at myself. But as they say, "When we know better we do better." Health research is a fave pastime. At 69, 5'1" I once reached 230 lbs. I'm down 45 and working on the next 30. Plant-based with some meat, limited dairy. Using time-restricted eating. Normally one meal per day. If I'm extremely hungry I eat, but Im less hungry eating this way. Yes, I have the occasional treat, but once you aren't eating sugar and snacking you'll find you crave it less and relish 2 cookies more than you used to when you ate a half bag down during a binge . . . barely tasted it, and still wanted more.

[@jr.6199]

Hero's risk their own lives... so he's not that. In the US he's called a professional medical researcher, one of many. As a paid PhD MD, he was seeing patients to practice medicine, till he retired.

[@winbalingit8502]

@@jr.6199 I respectfully disagree. Nurses save lives daily without risking their lives, and I still consider them heroes. Dr. Lustig saved many lives by bringing the attention of the public to the detrimental effects of sugar, specifically how it was effecting the pediatric population. There are many parents out there who now think differently about feeding their children sugary foods. He impacted society in a positive way and not many can say that. I consider him a hero even if he doesn’t fit your definition. God bless you and your family!!🙏🏽❤️😎✌🏽

[@livelearnandteach7402]

Dr Robert Lustig is my hero. Thank you to him for all he is doing.

[@lindamcneil711]

Protect the liver... the liver is the largest workhorse in the body. Thank you, Dr. Lustig.

[@twainmom4999]

cc

[@rhlang11]

but how?

[@lindamcneil711]

@@rhlang11 Eat foods that don't overtax the organ and help it function more cleanly. Eat very low carb. Eat real food. Don't drink alcohol excessively, Eat your leafy greens and low-carb vegetables. Avoid all highly processed or manufactured food. Eliminate sugars. Eat natural fats. Don't overload on fruits -- especially high glycemic fruits.

[@rhlang11]

@@lindamcneil711 I can do that. I just have to figure out how to do low carbs without losing calories as I dont need to lose weight. But thanks for your response.

[@valeriew5934]

@@lindamcneil711 You are describing the Keto diet, I totally agree with you

[@barrymiller99]

This deserves a far greater viewership.

[@marianna11980]

Absolutely!

[@truthseeker713]

Unnn

[@katrecemiller8325]

I am so happy to say this, I was diagnosed with Herpes simplex virus 1 & 2 seven years ago I lived in pain with the knowledge that I wasn’t going to ever be well again because my family Doctors and the dermatologist told me that there was no cure, but I needed to be normal and get my life back. I contacted so many herbal doctors I came across on this issue and wasted a large sum of money but my condition never got better I was determined to get my life back so one day I saw Mrs. Carol's post on youtube under a video titled "How to get rid of Herpes virus Fast". and how Dr.Aloha saved Her from HSV2 with his Natural Herbal medicine. I contacted Dr.Aloha through his email: [e-mail] we spoke on the issue I told him all that I went through and he told me not to worry that everything will be fine again and that he will help me. so he prepared the Herbal medicine and sent it to me through UPS courier delivery service with instructions on how to use it, I got the package just within 4 days as promised and after 14 days of usage I went to see my doctor for a test, Behold the results came out Negative to Herpes 1&2, I am so thankful to God for using Dr. Aloha to cure me of this stigmatized disease. I highly recommend this method to anybody suffering from Herpes or any other disease, you can also call/text: [phone],

[@grantw7946]

Deserved a noble peace prize!!!

[@Vikingshop]

Let us SHARE far and wide 🙏

[@barbhood7696]

I’m reading his book now, on Chapter 24. He has really open my eyes to the health issue. Big Business and Big Pharmaceuticals are really doing us wrong to make a dollar. Thank God for doctors like him that is on a mission to wake us all up.

[@tln3977]

Which of his books?

[@barbhood7696]

TLN Metabolical

[@tln3977]

@@barbhood7696 thanks Barb ✌🏼

[@ctnaturalhoof]

@@edwardschwenk3100 it is insane, I went back to regular nursing, home care, knowing it would make me crazy but hey, maybe I can at least say get in the sun and eat real foods and meditate. . . SHOCKING how many meds people are on and on them miserable. . . pain pain pain, I am probably going to get into trouble because I am starting to mention statins and pain. . . 97 year old man on statins and blind and deaf. WTF

[@rajdialnandram5676]

Make a dollar ? More like making a killing from our lack of knowledge perpetrated on us by them and their fake science (as Trump is won't o remind us ).

[@RobertLee-xd4lp]

I have a history of gout and hypertension. I now understand what causes these diseases and things I can do to reduce my dependence on drugs. Thank you, Dr. Lustig, for opening my eyes. Your book and videos will not only help me but also other people who are close to me. What you are doing will change our lives forever.

[@calthomas3]

Lee U stated it so well - I too have history of gout esp when i was alcoholic (8 yrs ago :-) and I love seafood and now - I can do the seafood. What I have since learned is that Stress affects Uric Acid !! and I am a caregiver for my wife ..cheers

[@annsmith8088]

❤

[@msfitnessnut]

I am 59, keto for 5 years and my fasting insulin is 2 and has been since doing routine blood draws. YAHOO ! And I have ZERO joint pain.

[@Ass_Burgers_Syndrome]

And fi that's you in the photo, you look good too if you don't mind me saying.

[@msfitnessnut]

@@Ass_Burgers_Syndrome I appreciate that - thank you! :)

[@richardlawson6787]

Yes...one beautiful woman ..shows it's how you treat yourself...you go girl!!

[@rossdean1997]

I had a BP of 150/90, cut out sugar drinks, beer, and snacks and in less than three weeks my BP was down to 125/65.

[@debrahurtado5491]

Wow! I am on strict keto and consume NO SUGAR, DON'T DRINK, am FASTING or doing one or two meals per day, with no snacks... and I can't lose weight, have no energy, my BP is 140/90 and I am sure my INSULIN is still high. That's probably why. But good for you. Don't let your insulin get high. 😯

[@ubself]

@@debrahurtado5491 hang in there, it’ll happen, just don’t do large amounts of meat, can raise insulin.

[@ubself]

@@debrahurtado5491 I’ve done that before, if you do omad you can have a bit more.

[@toriwolf5978]

Thank you I’m doing that right now ❤

[@rebecapowers]

Some diabetes, and obesity is due to bad diet, and for some of us genetic. I have t2 diabetes. I did fasting and no carb for over a year, and I still have diabetes. I love keto way of eating, but no cure here. I also have very high cholesterol because heart disease runs big in both sides of my family 😢

[@Ernesto7608]

I am nearly 80 years old and 100% healthy. I am FASCINATED with the topic of nutrition, and Dr. Lustig is also a hero for me. What a POWERFUL knowledge!

[@Henry-fk7cq]

@heatherwade2373 I'm 72 & in better shape than most 36-40 year Olds. Keto. Exercise (be careful, gyms put on weight, not reduce it.)

[@shenraine]

I don't say this lightly because I'm an atheist, but what a blessing you both are! Keep'em coming!

[@aprilek6003]

love it !!!!!!!!!! I use dr. lustig's saying "protect the liver, feed the gut" all the time. I like to add "nourish the brain" I will share widely. Dr. Perlmutter you are looking great by the way. No Covid lock down negative effect on you. :). Keep preaching the obvious. People have to be moved by the number of kids with fatty liver and how their brain development is affected.

[@master27777]

When you feed the gut it will nourish the brain :)

[@AyeWitness]

My liver is in a lot pain.

[@UTAH100]

I had a mTBI- how do you nourish the brain? I use fatty acids like omega-3's.

[@meanwhile4308]

Excellent interview!! Dr. Perlmutter is top notch interviewer. 💖

[@lynnnestor7985]

So educational and compelling. So very pleased that Dr Lustig continues to champion disease prevention. Loved hearing loads of details on our misuse of sugar and it’s devastating impact on our wonderful miraculous bodies that are just waiting to heal.

[@UTAH100]

I like that- just waiting to heal. It's true. I overcame two major health issues that responded well to nutrition. "Feed your gut or it will feed on you" was a less pleasant thought but also powerful.

[@richardlawson6787]

Listen...ask anybody who's gone cold turkey from sugar if they suffered...most you say yes very much...I quit pain pills cold turkey after ten years use...I have had much more severe mental and physical cravings for sugar than opiates ..and this drug(sugar)is accepted by society as harmless...give it by the handfuls to your kids...expect addicts ..

[@stephaniemckenzie3552]

Thank you and Robert Lustig for being so passionate about educating people on the benefits of real food! I just wanted to let you both know I am listening and I learned so much from this podcast! I will be getting and reading the books you both have written! Please keep educating us and don't get frustrated too much. 💜

[@OMGaNEWBIE]

Dr. Robert H. Lustig should write a new book "listing" the foods we should eat to heal fatty liver AND to feed our gut bacteria. What fats to eat & in what amount. A Diet Book is what he should write.

[@luv2travel2000]

Yes. Agree 100% ...and maybe partner with a nutritionist who will develop healthy, nutritious meals with photos to suppost these goals.

[@avas132]

I looked up his name on Amazon and he does have a cookbook I think you could find it that way too

[@OMGaNEWBIE]

@@avas132 - Thank You for trying, but, I saw that one, The Fat Chance Cookbook and the reviews are horrible. Pls read them.

[@avas132]

@@OMGaNEWBIE you’re right, after I commented I looked into the book and was surprised by how bad the reviews were & then I didn’t bother doing any more research

[@OMGaNEWBIE]

@@avas132 I too didn't bother to do anymore research either. I prefer sticking with Dr. Berg. For more than a decade, his info served me well. I recently watched his video called "The 6 Secrets to Looking Younger" Here's the link to that video. kzbin.info/www/bejne/eqSTYaiQgM6HftE Also, click on his name for his YT Channel Home Page then click on the VIDEOS tab. There you will find all of his videos in chronological order, with the most recent posted in the upper left of the first row.

[@dennisboyd144]

What a fantastic interview , one of my favorite Doctors!!!! He has hit the nail on the head from the very beginning. Oh how I wish he was on staff in our nations capital crafting our countries health policy. People first, special interests last!!!!!

[@DavidPerlmutterMD]

Thanks for watching!

[@nomorediets]

Listen to these two! They're doing medicine right. 💯💯💯💥💥💥

[@mickeydougal]

Thank you, gentlemen, for this free education. It’s refreshing to listen to physicians who care about people’s health more than monetary gain. Again, *THANK YOU!*

[@elmarwolters2751]

Dr. LUSTIG..... YOU MUST BE GETTING SOME TRACKTION ..... MILLIONS ARE HEARING YOUR MESSAGE INCL. MYSELF MANY THANKS . LETS HOPE WE ALL START VOTING WITH OUR FORK, I SURE WILL...

[@jeanpollack5102]

Hello. I watched you on a recent podcast with Andrew Huberman . I have raised 3 children with no sugar (or very limited) and they are grown adults now but our culture negates or dismisses the danger of sugar and processed food. Thank you for your research and your work with health and especially with our children.Thank you!!!!!

[@lesterjohnson7579]

😅😅

[@Daniel-hh8od]

We owe Dr Robert Lustig a tremendous amount of gratitude for his contributions to nutrition and discovery of the dangers of high fructose corn syrup and processed foods.

[@marykavanagh9792]

Thank god for doctors who can restore my faith in medicine.

[@UTAH100]

Medicine or actually FOOD?

[@lisengel2498]

It ends with a very optimistic and truly inspiring message. It takes 9 days to make a change that really matters: Eat Real food, avoid processed foods, eat soluble fibers, get the blood sugar down, get uric acid down ....

[@MrLouDC]

I. Am a physician with 62 years of experience in sports medicine,nutrition,allergies,autoimmune conditions and in my opinion these two Doctors are two of the best in the world. My question to them is: what is responsible for the incredible increase in Autism in the last 20 years.

[@hunterscollectors673]

The problem could be gluten, leaky gut, highly processed carbs and don't forget Glyphosate in which grain crops are drenched.

[@lisag6259]

The vaccines!

[@MrLouDC]

@@hunterscollectors673 I very much agree and in my research over 25 years I felt vaccines and leaky gut were the most likely culprit. I gave out 50,000 vaccines as a Navy medic during the Vietnam War and was very skeptical of them at the time. I personally have taken no flu shots or other vaccines in 55 years and very healthy today at 78yo (run 100K trans appinies) Started having arthritis like symtoms in right hand 2,3,4,5 finger-second knuckle. This is one of the first evident sign of impending auto-immune reaction. I did the gluten antigen test-- 7 1/2 times maximum limit. Now I am on Gluten free,ketogenic,low sugar,no fast food,cook like my Grandmother---"Sad" but if you have one auto-immune condition you are likely to acquire more. After 6 months on diet hand has improved about 50%, from not being able to cut cheese and frequent finger cramps to no cramps and can cut cheese with some effort and pain. I think some people have a increased genetic propensity to Autism/Auto-immune,leaky-gut disease and some stressor activates a dormant gene, Vaccines is probably number one,then leaky-gut,gluten intolerance,excessive sugar consumption. Loui

[@jm_1214]

I'm a practicioner also. I think it's the food supply that the mothers are consuming and the baby formula sold at local drug stores. Did you ever read the label on baby formula? It reads like a chemistry experiment

[@sabrinabrito8473]

Hi! I have a psychology degree and I can say there are no causes of autism related to diet or vaccines. The only cause of autism is genetics! The reason why the numbers of autism have increased so much in the last 20 years is simple: before the 2000', we didn't know much about that condicion and there were lots and lost of misdiagnosis. What changed was the access to and proper diagnosis :) Sorry for my English I'm brazilian

[@audrey3042]

I want to thank both doctors for telling the truth…we all need to act accordingly now!

[@YAMISOOLD2009]

Metabolical is a great eye opener of a book! I underlined so many things in it. My copy is well annotated now! I keep hoping Bill Maher will book Lustig for his show. Bill has been talking about the obesity epidemic throughout the Covid Pandemic. I know he is hard to like and its easy for him to say since he is small and skinny but he has echoed what Dr. Lustig said at the end of this podcast about how people who are obese and diabetic are much more likely to get really sick and die from Covid 19. Its simple biology but we don't have good explainers on our televisions. Too many of the doctors who are interviewed on news shows basically tell people to believe them because they know better but they fail to explain to the audience WHY. Dr Lustig is a great explainer of WHY!

[@darkchocotony3391]

This is life-changing. Now I can start working on my food addictions so I perform better as a human being.

[@Henry-fk7cq]

Food addictions kill more than fentanyl. You can do it. No. Rice, bread, cake, pasta, potatoes. Do not use any sugar. Good luck

[@helenwatters6880]

Two wonderful men, and an illuminating engaging generous discussion, so relevant to this time and so valuable for all of us. Thankyou very much.

[@user-qv4ni9hd8m]

Thank you Dr. Perlmutter and Dr. Lustig! I'm your age and proud that someone of my generation has this discovery for good health! God bless you both and your families! ❤Kimberly

[@mirandabrunskill7755]

'Protect the Liver' and 'Feed the Gut' 🙏🙏🙏Thank you, Thank you, Thank you

[@cindycraig3164]

A close relative takes handfuls of meds morning and night. Her last trip to a specialist did not involve a discussion of the drug cocktail she's on, just another prescrip. Her pantry and fridge are full of processed foods. An attempt to discuss it results in excuses. It's heartbreaking.

[@ubself]

💜🌺💜

[@perseveremediaproductions4950]

Im 25 and I find Dr Lustig’s work fascinating. I hope it can help me become a healthier and better person.

[@Ass_Burgers_Syndrome]

I wish I had know all this stuff when I was your age. The last 30 years would have been easier if I was educated on this stuff. I've made changes now but I could have done it years ago. Good thing you're catching on to it now!

[@johnjustice8478]

Both these Doctors are great to listen to. They take complex processes and reduce them to simple explainations. Plus, they've got the orchestra stalls to disagree with their colleagues and be strong in their own beliefs. More power to them!

[@thebarkingstoic7702]

Two brilliant minds. Thank you both for all the work you are doing to help the rest of us.

[@edensmith552]

I wish to thank both Dr. Perlmutter and Dr. Lustig for this educational video. Metabolical, book is an eye opener. I'm reading it now and can recommend it to everyone who wants good health. I'm going to purchase 2 more Metabolical books for my children. Every family should have this book.

[@Hazzard0]

Two of the greats!

[@shimmyhinnah]

Man, what an excellent interviewer!

[@jhartfitness]

This is absolutely brilliant and such a gift for all of us watching/listening! Thank you both for sharing this with all of us! Have a blessed day ❤️🙏

[@corpuscallosum4677]

Dr R Lustig is the real healer and hero of this millennium! He's the personification of Virtue, Truth and Intelligence, the forces that propel human evolution. As of 1/22/2022, Sugar: The Bitter Truth has garnered over 16 million views, not 12 anymore. I am glad I viewed it 2010, when it first started in the hundred thousand views. It literally saved my and my family's life! Our society should make it a grade school view for our next generations' head start! Thank you to all the courageous New millennium healers for speaking the Truth and lead humanity forward!

[@joydaniel597]

Thank you for this great dialogue. This is truly a gift to mankind.

[@zerocarbdoc]

A couple of brave American unsung heroes here. They will save hundreds of thousands of peoples lives not alone the millions their pioneering ways will save. If they can change our nations approach towards nutrition and proper food their legacy will be great.

[@kimpeterson1710]

Thank you so much Dr. Perlmutter and Dr. Lustig!

[@raewise6345]

Cannot begin to thank you enough, Doctors , for all that I have learned from your interviews and videos! You are on a mission and it is working! I am armed and dangerous. And so much healthier!

[@shamitamandal665]

THANKS TO DR DAVID AND DR ROBERT FOR SUCH A REAL DISCUSSION ON REAL FOOD. I AM A PUBLIC HEALTH QUALIFIED DOCTOR FROM INDIA AND BELIEVE YOUR GUIDANCE WILL HELP PEOPLE DIRECTLY BYPASSING THE PHARMA AND FOOD INDUSTRIES OF ALL OVER THE WORLD

[@lindsaystrobbe6633]

Great interview and great book! I just started chapter 7 and don't want to put the book down. I pray the "eat real food" idea gains more and more traction. Additional great books on this topic are, The Science of Skinny by Dee McCaffrey and Food Fix by Dr. Mark Hyman. All these books have a common theme, "Say no to processed food!".

[@lf7065]

Ben Bikman's "Why we get sick" is what I'm reading right now. Wonderful info on low carb/insulin resistance/keto. 🙂

[@jellybeanvinkler4878]

It is hard when the government and other powers that be are telling us to eat our Wheaties. With skim milk...😔

[@andyx8440]

Dr Lustig is a genius and a speedy person. Thank you.

[@sabmandakuro7181]

So much respect for these two men. Speaking the truth against a corrupt medical system!

[@brownly808]

Thank you so so much Dr David Perlmutter and Dr Robert Lustig for sharing these messages...you bring hope to us all...

[@lisafaser6031]

So grateful for the two of you and all you do to help people. Keeping on keeping on, gentleman!!!❤️🙏🏻❤️

[@titosrr2450]

Protecting our liver should rate high just like protecting our families, our homes, our cars, our bank accounts, etc.

[@sharonrioux4017]

OMG… Finally! I have been waiting for all these details since the 90s. Thank you so much Dr. Perlmutter and Dr. Lustig for sharing, for enlightening us, and for fighting for what is right for humanity. We just have to become more responsible and do the right things to help our own selves. ❤️

[@lsporter88]

Much respect to you for putting this out Doctor Perlmutter. Salute.

[@kathioneill2034]

You doctors are really helping all of us get on the right track with all the conflicting information! We are listening and applying what you teach and our health is improving!! How do we find out blood work lab ranges from the 1970’s?

[@t.corazon6350]

I totally agree, except on the salted fish. True it was salty but people soaked it first before eating, till it was palatable ....

[@acs2777]

I have just managed to loose 46.3 pounds (21kg) and just 6.6 pounds (3kg) to my ultimate weight! And just by eating 🍽️ properly both combining carnivore, fish , keto , fruit and some other protocols and it took only 2.5 month starting 10th of may 2023 ! After being obese since 2010 in different period , hectic lifestyle with getting kids unhealthy food and sleep deprived I have finally find the right way out of this infection in our body called fat ! I will take a certificate to become dietist and help a lot of people out there struggling and in the end never sticking to it . Finally I have found the right balance after 13 -14 years of trial and errors is discovered! 🎉😊

[@johndoudna7055]

Thank you for this and your books and your personal passions to bring health to the healthcare system in spite of their lethargy and the disregard of food marketers and drug marketers, for all our benefits in our return to natural health.

[@coffeemachtspass]

There are some great little gems in this conversation. So many people could benefit just by the information about wheat in the diet (personally, I have decided to drop wheat at least until I successfully grow a beak).

[@syedarif5872]

Wow Dr Robert....!!! Such a great sincere human being, fighting the rich sugar guys, spreading true real education... May you live healthy, happy life for ever... Ameen

[@nowhereman9463]

Like you said,Dr Lustig,the food industry does'nt care,as long as they make MONEY.So it is up to us to be aware and thanx to you,that's happening.Thankyou for your courage and going against the grain.God Bless.

[@drSJV]

Amazing interview 🎉 i could listen to these two experts forever! Thank you very much!

[@DavidPerlmutterMD]

Maybe next time we'll just keep going and going and going and going...

[@aprilek6003]

Grain Brain changed my life! Excellent book.

[@gabrielleheard6366]

Me too, a daughter gave Dr Perlmutter's books Grain Brain and the cookbook to me for Christmas 2014, saved my life, and not been to my GP for 7 years. Now healthy 69, no drugs, no sugar, grains, bread etc nothing that converts to sugars. Good high fats, all organic, nothing GMO, nothing artificial! Work with nature, not against it ☺

[@sandyzathletemom]

Me too!

[@valeriew5934]

Me too @April, so grateful for that book

[@amxi5]

Great conversation. Always a pleasure to hear Dr lustig

[@pandeykuldip]

Thank you both Dr David and Dr Robert Lustig for making aware of the extreme importance of food we eat.it has opened my eyes too.We doctors also need to seriously reset our wirings about the importance of food and nutrition.

[@Susan.Lewis.]

37:20 I love the way Dr. Lustig said that.

[@Eduardomd54]

Brilliant ! All this knowledge, thank you so much. In medical schools they teach to prescribe, not to prevent. And that has to do with business.

[@Maisie_love]

Totally agree about food being very important,I be been saying it for years.I cured my own dermatitis by cutting out wheat and lowering sugar but it s harder to get healthy food these days. Thank you for informing people of this

[@lisasommerlad1337]

So good to hear two people who know what they are talking about, talking. Thank you to both.

[@theresablanca2147]

Thank you sooo much for this very educational video and it is sooo important for us to take charge of our own health (be proactive) and not to depend on the health/sick care system!

[@robertkrug8896]

Thank you both for this outstanding interview! I am very looking forward reading this book! Kind regards from Germany, Robert

[@lisatom2090]

Thank you for making this presentation to the public. I am overwhelmed with the information and much appreciated. The public health is better because of your work. Thank you indeed.

[@jayoopatwardhan4040]

You are brilliant ! 🙏👍🏽

[@hmlxur54]

What a great interview with Dr. Lustig pointing out the importance on eating the appropriate food to keep us healthy. Certainly and overwhelming information on sugar, insulin and many other critical factors to affect our health. Looking forward on reading his latest book Metobolical.

[@sausensihweil1091]

You are both amazing....thank you!

[@nickjohns8702]

Best informative health discussion i have heard in a long while. After listening to Robert many years ago he really helped me change my health through diet. I could never thank him enough for the info.

[@lindaturgeon1618]

I ordered Dr Lustig’s book. I’m very excited to receive it. I can’t believe people are so oblivious to what is going on with our health in this country. It is really sad, and it’s not their fault.

[@ksappani]

Wonderful to see both Dr Robert Lustig and Dr David Perlmutter discussing so amazingly. It was an excellent session and a big Thank You

[@liannebenn2097]

They don't really teach nutrition in veterinary school. Vets have been brainwashed by the dog food industry that processed kibble containing foods completely foreign to dogs such as corn and wheat and by products that even humans can't eat and with a shelf life of a year is safer than a natural home diet. I have just been learning about this subject and started feeding a home made diet and can already see the difference on my dogs.

[@simmiedavissimmiesings8185]

Human diets either. No surprise that now our animals are getting and dying from, diseases that used to be reserved for the human population.

[@jimbeaver27]

Dr Lustig really helped me along the Keto journey to getting healthy and cutting out the sugar, thanks doc!

[@theroadhome_Liz_Summers]

I just finished watching (listening) to this interview and immediately purchased the book. I hope to read and re-watch and have some notes for my next labs ... I know my Dr. will love that :). A co-worker introduced me to the UCLATv "Sugar" video ... in fact, 5 of us from all over the U.S. who work as a team (software development), all watched and have discussed. I just now sent them the link to this talk. I have been on the "real food" train for many years - love to cook, am a "scratch" cook. I think your thumbnail had the Hippocrates quote (partial): "Let food be thy medicine..." (it goes on "and medicine be thy food"). Physicians still take the Hippocratic oath, don't they ?? And yet, as you noted and as I have experienced as a patient ... nutritional guidance is hard to come by in the "Dr's office". BUT, I think we patients have some responsibility for that also as too many of "us" just want a pill to fix whatever. As Dr. Perlmutter suggested, ending on a high note - thank you both for all of the information given and explained in this talk.

[@talbotsblock7377]

Thanks to your interview. I bought and read Metabolical. Good work Lustig. Also recently bought Brain Wash, which I find incredibly inspiring. I’m already a better person for having read it. Congratulations to you and Austin.

[@ligiasommers]

What a wonderful helpful episode !!! Thank you 🙏🏻💖🌷

[@TITOFROG1]

Love and believe everyting that Dr. Robert Lustig has to say about eating healthy and intermittent fasting. ❤😊👍

[@user-zx6ur4ow8i]

Living to be old is one thing but living to be old and healthy and able to live a good life is another....I have watched this guy over and over and he is great ....I am now 52 and have abbs and people ask how do you do it......yes I exercise but now my diet is spot on because I understand how to eat ....

[@MsMiklosa]

Great interview, important topic easily explained! I’ll certainly order the book to know more. Thank you!!!

[@josephshawa]

Dr Lustig. You look great! Thinner and healthier. Both of you actually 🙂

[@samtaing5474]

This man is iconic! Thank you doc for dedicating your life helping us learn more about nutrition. We can see your passion.

[@coolroy4300]

I have learned more from you in one morning about food health than I have my whole life .THANK YOU ! Dr. Lustig

[@glendalyelias1222]

I just have one word, EXCELLENT.

[@d.e.g222]

Awesome interview! Thank You.

[@DoloresGeyer]

Excellent interview. I also read the book referenced-so much really useful information in it. Both physicians really know their stuff.

[@virginiamina3547]

Thank you Dr. Perlmutter and Dr. Lustig, you are heaven sent to many. Great doctors.

[@davidphipps8723]

Fabulous learning experience. Love the cut to the chase commentary on the food and medical domains. Thanks for the enlightenment!

[@Fishpond8]

Thank you! Susannah Hays. Let's expand this conversation to include the autonomic nervous system.

[@elizagal7451]

We are so blessed to have this information. Thank you both so very much

[@StiffAftermath]

Truth. So refreshing and wonderful! Thank you for your time, effort, and love, sirs!

[@mungomidge1090]

Fascinating and informative, always something to learn!