Take Control Of Your Project Backups With This Strategy

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Backing up your Logic Projects is a crucial step for keeping your work safe. But what's the best way to keep all your files straight? Here's the strategy I've adopted.
0:00 - Intro
1:42 - Why should you back up your Projects?
3:00 - My Current Backup/Archive Strategy
5:44 - Benefits of Dropbox/Cloud Storage
6:25 - 2 Backups Instead of 3?
6:47 - Avoid Opening Logic Projects Living Inside Cloud Storage
7:00 - Dropbox Options & Plans
7:19 - But Does Dropbox Count As a Backup?
7:40 - Other File Organizing Tips
8:45 - One Hiccup With Dropbox & Macs
9:34 - Why Not iCloud?

[@DojoOfCool]

The Mac OSX is built on Unix FreeBSD so it comes with the perfect tool for this and in fact some of the backup and sync tools are actually GUI frontend to this tool. What I'm talking about is rsync and Unix program that sync files to another location. What make is great is it checks the files and only copies over the files that have changed so you not have to copy over everything every time. Being as well as music I worked as a SysAdmin and rsync was used to keep files in sync on multiple hard drives, and hard drives in remote locations so we had physical copies multiple cities. We had large website so we had servers scattered around the country so rsync helped us keep all the content on the servers identical. I was able to keep development servers and production servers insync. This would be like you working files for a Logic project and your final files. All this power in a free tool that comes with Unix (OSX) and spending some time learning how to write script files to do all this with one command. Even that would be run automatically based on a timetable tool in Unix that does things at whatever schedule. Computers are great if people would take time to actually learn how to do things themselves and learn the tools available and how to write scripts.

[@MrSRellz]

Great information. Can you recommend any videos or info on how to learn rsync for backup

[@DojoOfCool]

Not really the thing you're going to learn from a KZbin. It's more of google it and you''ll find examples of command lines. Then just sit and experiment with it on your computer to understand what all the command line parameters do. Also write how to write shell scripts so you don't have to type the command line every time.

[@harrystewart7702]

Best channel for logic.your the man Bro. Keep it up.so many gems

[@sturla75]

Love your channel. Have helped me a lot.

[@FLH3official]

Since 3 months I use SmartBackup for automating all the copies (5 disks + 2 usb sticks for my projects, libraries, patches & so on). It's free and it does the job when I'm sleeping. I've never realy used any cloud as my bandwidth is somewhere between 1998 and 2008, depends of the weather in the French countryside...

[@WhyLogicProRules]

I've never heard of SmartBackup until now. Thanks for the recommendation!

[@FLH3official]

@@WhyLogicProRules It's not realy a "recommendation", I've just found this app and it's free, not more! 😄 I guess there are other applications which do a better job.

[@Rhythmattica]

Having worked in Music HiTech and also still doing tech support..... Theres a saying I've used for decades. "Data doesn't exist unless its in two places"

[@charltonrowe4161]

Question. Is drag and drop safe? My first project was a self made album on Logic 9. After I was done I used drag and drop to an external HD. Later we went back and there were complete tracks missing. Ever since then I’ve always done manual Save As to my external HDs. Was that an issue then but fixed now?

[@malertricks]

Thank you so much! your knowledge is amazing! Greetings from Berlin

[@nadavremez]

nice strategy. I'm doing something similar, but relying on carbon copy cloner (CCC) to do automatic nightly backups for all my hard drives, including versioning. And if I have a project I'm working on that I'm *really* scared of losing mid-work, I can always pop in a USB drive and tell CCC to backup just that project every 15-30 minutes. As far as cloud backup goes, I use IDrive. It's not perfect but it gives me tons of space to backup my live projects HD, my sample instrument HD, and my growing project archive HD. My only issue with IDrive is that it doesn't let me do a *full* backup of my internal HD. And as we all know, that's where the VSTs and a lot of plugin presets are saved. So while I have a local backup of the internal HD, I'm struggling with the cloud part of it. Thoughts?

[@1eidji652]

Do you know CCC like on windows ?

[@nadavremez]

@@1eidji652 no, I'm a Mac user

[@ScottSmithMusic]

Super helpful. Thank you!✊🏼💥

[@phinestro]

You saved my life !!!!!!

[@calm..zzzone7258]

hi,thank you for the video,its very helpful.I did my backup to dropbox,but logic pro file folder looks different and include onli data,does logic project is there and how can I open it?

[@marktegeder2455]

Very helpful, thanks!

[@nirsayag]

Thanks for this video!

[@emanuel_soundtrack]

nice! thx for the playlist

[@nicebluejay]

for anyone interested -- onedrive from microsoft works EXACTLY like this. i use it because i have a sub for ms office, so it is way cheaper overall to add onedrive than dropbox.

[@nicebluejay]

ps. icloud sucks lol

[@svarogstudio]

Hey I have a question regarding backups/future proofing... I watched your video on the subject as well, but I have a related question for what you didn't touch on. How do you backup your projects for a somewhat distant future, when you will probably no longer have same plugins and all... Yes you can export stems, but if you/people are like me you can easily have a situation where you have few snares sent to bus, few kicks in their own bus etc... all going into drum buss, and some of them going into different reverbs, parallel busses etc... you can see the complication of exporting stems in these situations. Any way to actually have stems that, when combined again, sound like the original mix?

[@dafingaz]

Great advice!

[@Timothonius]

This is golden thank you

[@salcent]

There is a cool company called CRASHPLAN. I have 7 TB stored. It backs up while computer is idle. And there is no throttling like Carbon Copy. Save my ass the 1st month I had it.

[@orclonn8974]

+1 for CrashPlan. Any restoring large amounts of data over the Internet is slow though so I use Carbon Copy Cleaner for automated local backups to NAS. iCloud and DropBox are not intended to use as backups.

[@brandon25184]

I backed up my whole Mac with Time machine, dose that mean I can delete all my Old music files off my Mac now? And still have them on the drive?

[@Locrian1]

Good video. I do think people rely too much on the cloud to manage their files. When it comes down to it, It is nothing more than a really slow hard drive! There are more elegant solutions to be had locally (Carbon Copy, for instance).

[@jmhdsn]

At just under 3 minutes in or so, you mention that your OS is running off one of your external hard drives. Is there a particular reason for that? What do you use the internal drive in the Mac for?

[@987productions]

A little off topic, but, what are your thoughts on using a NAS setup for all your samples, I use East West and Superior drummer and it's a pain, where as I was thinking if I put the samples for the plugins on a NAS and access them through ethernet instead of multiple drives that will make my life easier and save using endless dongles to plug in the drives on my macbook pro. I can't find any info on this but was wondering if you think this will work? Cheers

[@wilkinsonmd1959]

Good tips here. I noticed you are using Glyph drives. Are you using SSD drives as your working project drives (for speed) and then maybe a 7200 RPM drive for backup files?

[@WhyLogicProRules]

Hey Scott, I use G Technology G Drives over here. The external SSD is my main computer drive. As I didn't have the courage to open up my iMac and replace the internal spinning drive. My working drive is a 7200 RPM drive.

[@Zoddex]

I had some projects on iCloud, and I switched computers and they all disappeared. Apple tried but couldn't restore anything. Lesson learned.

[@davidpurple3698]

Thanks - great video. Can't you make a video on how to swap to a new Mac? - as the M1 is coming and we're all going to do it.

[@WhyLogicProRules]

Hey David, thanks for the recommendation! I've actually been keeping a spreadsheet to figure out when enough of my hardware and software is M1 ready so I can take the plunge. I'll probably pick one pretty soon now...

[@AVCM]

Carbon copy cloner would make this less manual.

[@WhyLogicProRules]

Totally agree! Carbon Copy Cloner isn't much of a fan of copying to Cloud storage folders. It will do it, but I've found it doesn't love it.

[@charleskrueger5523]

How do you think your strategy would differ for video production with Final Cut?

[@WhyLogicProRules]

I can only speculate, but video files are a handful! Those I keep on multiple external drives instead of cloud backup.

[@danny_HP]

Have you ever looked into using iCloud? Seems to run the same pricing scheme as Dropbox, and is integrated pretty seamlessly into the OS already. I'm not sure if it is positioning itself as a "cloud backup solution" like Dropbox, I'm curious as to your thoughts.

[@emanuel_soundtrack]

what about google Drive? What i find that sucks is this automatic cloud functions you cant stop and make the computer SHHHHHHHH in background. At the moment i use just a hard drive that is always on.And hOnestly i still am not sure how logic save my projects and if the project file has to be in the same place like other files inside the project. Logic does not save project in folders no?