TAKE IT UP A NOTCH

In which sweet innocent baby John learns a thing or two about the overall notch level. YOU DO NOT DECIDE THE NOTCH. The poll is here: / @vlogbrothers
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[@jon1913]

4 minutes and 47 seconds with a tangent defending your brother from armchair doctors is pretty damn good for someone who's been taken up 20 notches this year.

[@murphygreen8484]

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[@drewbrock815]

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[@ordan787]

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[@psalmy26]

The 4 minute constraint made them better. With those skills acquired, I think it's value wanes.

[@graham8443]

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[@RenameUranus2Caelus]

"You do not get to decide the notch situation!"

[@alexwyatt2911]

As I’ve said for many, many years, “Life dgaf about your plans.”

[@krose6451]

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[@ericreativecuts]

I need that tattooed lol

[@landonkryger]

Can we get this on a t-shirt ?

[@melimsah]

Merch merch merch merch!

[@NervousSteel]

“I would have written you a shorter letter if only I had the time” is such a perfect quote

[@CaptainBlitz]

The thing is, 5-10 minutes is still short for modern KZbin standards. For lack of a better term, this channel feels "old school". It's not 60 second TikToks or Shorts, or 40 minute explainers. As long as your videos are shorter than 10 minutes, I think most of us will be happy. And you two have become so concise over the years that even without a rule, I think most of your videos will end up being about 5 minutes long.

[@asteriis8686]

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[@kerridsvids]

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[@notevenremotelydorky]

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[@pantitapalittapongarnpim1581]

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[@bus3957]

As someone who is new to the channel, I definitely would not want to see the 4 minute rule reinstated (I just learned about the rule yesterday). My preferred YT content is 2hr+ breakdown videos on various topics and media. So a video under 10 minutes feels like a short to me (which is not a bad thing).

[@MahlenMorris]

"If I am to speak ten minutes, I need a week for preparation; if fifteen minutes, three days; if half an hour, two days; if an hour, I am ready now." -- Woodrow Wilson

[@yaelmorin9017]

This is SO real. If only this line had been Woodrow Wilson's main contribution to the world, rather than racism that was startlingly bad even for his time and, well, however you feel about the League of Nations!

[@sylvy16]

@@yaelmorin9017i only know of league of nations from school. should i even ask what is controversial about it?

[@yaelmorin9017]

@@sylvy16 Oh, nothing secret or particularly awful. There are just extensive debates about its value at the time and its legacy since. It failed decisively in its primary stated purpose of preventing war and was superseded by the UN, so how you feel about the UN will strongly influence how you feel about the League of Nations.

[@mayaenglish5424]

I feel like the 4 minute rule has done it's job and done it well. You are both very concise and don't waste time in videos. So if your videos are suddenly 5 minutes and 57 seconds or even 8, 9, 10 minutes long etc, I'm perfectly fine with that.

[@Nicoleashley1991]

Same!

[@DistanceTraveled]

I second this

[@gabiwasabi2249]

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[@ceeayenay]

Also the speed at which they can clearly communicate! Amazing. They're the only people I can't increase the playback speed for, and I love it!

[@kieran163]

one thing i really love about not having the rule is that we can have small moments. like the click of you stopping the recording- i love when youtubers don’t cut that out. it’s such a satisfying sound, but it also feels sincere, like we’re getting a small peek behind the curtain. for a second, the script stops and we are still here together. ❤

[@beantheirishsetter]

This! Allowing space for the little things. And I love the turning off of the recording too. Feels like a "bye for now"

[@KroK013]

Just really proud of John handling the notch situation. It's hard to remain on a high notch for a long time, but I admire his willingness to stick it out.

[@kerridsvids]

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[@FlorianFahrenberger]

The 4 minutes did their job. They were supposed to make your videos more concise and interesting, and you have both learned your lesson pretty well. Now, you can easily put out videos that are 4 minutes 47 seconds, or whatever suits you, that still feel laconic and on point and made for today's attention span. 😊

[@dcseain]

Agreed

[@ThatllShowEm]

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[@VeronicaGuzzardi]

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[@KalebPeters99]

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[@Starlysh]

I'm old enough to remember blended Happy Meals, so in this era of unchosen notch levels, I'm all for the freedom to make videos as long or as short as you want! 💚

[@4mpersan]

Oh, yeah. Something I didn't expect to revisit today - I guess I don't want that burger, after all! DFTBA.

[@burnyizland]

OMG please tell me blended happy meals doesn't mean happy meals you put in a blender.

[@rocketfallen]

@@burnyizland It is exactly that, putting a happy meal in a blender. Hank and John used to do punishments for things like fucking up the 4 minute rule.

[@gggthsb]

truer words have seldom been spoken 😃

[@seasq]

I didn't think I would feel the nausea that I felt watching that video all those years again, but here we are 🤢 while I cherish those early years and all the years since then, I'm very happy that the videos have evolved to where we are now.

[@LynxChan]

I think it's adorable that you asked us "Hey, would you like to see more vlogbrothers content?" and imagine the answer could possibly be "no". 😂

[@mpd9695]

I wish there was a fourth option in the poll that said something like "I personally struggle to watch longer videos and prefer the shorter ones, but I want John and Hank to make whatever length of content brings them joy and makes them feel free to express themselves fully." I'll be watching at whatever notch you decide! :)

[@djradost6524]

i completely missed the part about there being an actual poll - thanks for mentioning it!

[@robinh7386]

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[@hollyray4884]

I've secretly been loving these longer videos because the act of breaking long-enforced rules at this time, in this community, feels rebellious and potentially another way of flipping off these notches. While also leveling up with them. I vote for the freedom of longer videos, and if a day comes where it feels right to you and Hank to bring back the rule, that will be a beautiful return too

[@NiftyPants]

I appreciate that the videos are concise, but if a topic requires 5 minutes instead of 4 I see no issue with that. You guys have so much experience being concise with the 4 minute rule that I trust you to still make videos that justify their length at any length.

[@mattatron64]

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[@Ketraar]

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[@jmmllr]

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[@auroraourania7161]

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[@NWPaul72]

Problem: when noting that a vlogbrothers video is over four minutes, my mental expectation is of something extraordinary, be it for good or ill. A four minute post gives me the feeling that the world is operating correctly for a moment, even if viewing it leaves me convinced otherwise. It packs more significance to me than the terrorist threat level or the air quality index. Worse, if they change it, I will have to make a personal, internal adjustment and I'm getting kinda old for that.

[@rkatecraig]

John, I think it’s really important to remember that when you and Hank started making videos, the “speed up” feature… didn’t exist. At this point, you can feel free to make a 15 minute video if you want. If I feel like you’re rambling, I’ll just speed you up, it’s what I do to everybody else 😂 Plus, there’s literally millions of us in the community, you can lean on us and count on us not to leave. We can handle your weight friend. ❤

[@Jackallleo]

I agree in principle but speeding up is bad here! It shows that the video isn’t worthy of the time they’ve put into it and I think there should at least be a 10-minute rule to limit this kind of thing - being relatively concise is important and an integral part of their format. Basically as a devotee of this community I never want to condense my time here!

[@tomisaacson2762]

​​@@JackallleoI agree, but only because I don't come to vlogbrothers videos strictly for the informational content. That's just one part of the appeal. I watch at 1x for the vibes. Plus their content is thoughtful and leaves me with stuff to contemplate. I see speeding up videos as analogous to referencing, skimming, or just enjoying a book as opposed to closely reading every line. It's not about not valuing the time put into the work, but adjusting my use of the work according to what I'm using it for. I've never read a textbook cover to cover, for example, but I use and value them a lot. A lecture with mostly familiar material I'll watch at >2x. An infotainment video with some unfamiliar content will be anywhere from 1-2x depending on the ratio of new info to entertainment (and of course the speed and style of the speaker). Comedy, music, art, most movies, etc. are at 1x.

[@rkatecraig]

I’ve never actually felt the need to speed up one of Hank or John’s videos. My statement was meant as reassurance that they can make videos as lengthy as they want, I’ll still watch them. And I’m not inconvenienced by the time it takes because if I’m THAT pressed for time, I can speed it up. If that makes sense.

[@SpiralMagic]

I trust you both to make good use of the viewer's time. I do believe 4-5 minute videos are the perfect length, but I think you've learned the lessons of the 4-minute limit and are good to go forward without it. Just continue to say what needs to be said like you've been doing these past months and don't stress about the time-count, that's my vote!

[@kerridsvids]

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[@alno1019]

Forcing myself to remember "I do not control the Notch Level" really helped my OCD, when I was really going through it and was convinced I was the sole cause of every single bad thing happening ever. I do not control the notch level, I do not control whether it gets taken up or down - but when I feel like my thoughts and emotions are out of my control, I can reach out for support.

[@MichelleK.B.]

I love the way you phrased this.

[@-Teague-]

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[@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721]

I do not control the speed at which notches rise.

[@mysoulcalledlife]

I was approximately 5 seconds into the video before thinking to myself, “My God, I love that they’ve suspended the 4-minute-rule so much..” so there’s that.💖💖💖

[@ncpirie]

4 minutes, 2 minutes, 8 minutes, it is unfailingly good content. I will never call for censorship of a longer video. ❤

[@somecunninglinguist]

I've returned to vlogbrothers recently after about ... 9? Years away and I'm really enjoying myself here again. You guys have a unique place in the history of humanity and I'm so glad you're both so responsible about it

[@a_tiny_ella]

"Thank you for being with us. Now more than ever." Always, John (and Hank). For along as we can, we are here. 💙

[@ThatllShowEm]

We're here because we're here.

[@hugeant97]

Oh my goodness your profile photo is amazing. Did you find that somewhere did you make that?

[@PKMNnerdfighter]

John, this is such an eloquent way to address some inappropriate comments and line of thinking people have toward illness (even if unintentional). I'm an old school community member and while I love the four minute videos... Nothing will stop you from making four minute videos if you want! So I say let go! No enforced rules, only self-imposed rules!

[@mattatron64]

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[@Ali_OT7]

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[@-Teague-]

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[@gigabyte2248]

Since I moved jobs (and moved jobs again), it's been an interesting experience opening up about my mental illness to new co-workers and seeing their reactions. The well-meaning, supposedly-inspirational pep talks/anecdotes are beyond useless, but they are a fascinating and amusing experience.

[@SpiralMagic]

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[@jefpowell526]

I have been LOVING the longer videos this year. I trust the bothers Green to police themselves! Just Keep Hank in check, John; we're counting on you!

[@BLiZIHGUH]

If there's any youtuber I trust to fill my time responsibly, it's you two. And at this point, I think you both have tbe editorial experience to figure out when something is adding to a video and when it isn't.

[@catherineb6880]

This is not the question you asked, but I've been wanting to somehow let you know that I miss Dear Hank and John a lot, and I'll be delighted when (hopefully) y'all have the capacity to start making it again. I haven't seen this sentiment stated anywhere, presumably because people are so very good about giving you both the time and space and recovery you need, and I know I'm fundamentally selfish in my desire. Still, I didn't want you to think that because we're not talking about, no one cares about it or misses it! That's all. (Oh, and y'all are awesome.)

[@Quintinia]

I miss it too! It was always a treasured part of my week and I'll be thrilled when it comes back, but of course the physical and mental health of the Brothers Green come first!

[@nitidiuscula]

Same on all levels. I know it's not (and shouldn't be!) a priority but I hope to see (hear) it return, it is one of my absolute favorites of their projects. I think it is probably an upward notch at this moment though

[@catherineb6880]

@@Quintinia Of course it does! Don't mean to add pressure; just let them know we do love it.

[@shandiw7749]

It's also my favourite thing they do, so I will be doing a happy dance at its return whenever the brothers feel able to do so.

[@rebeccaharames824]

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[@abdullahenani9670]

This year has a been a real rollercoaster for us, but I’m grateful we’re in this together!

[@ryandonnell3382]

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[@untappedinkwell]

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[@JJ-tk7xf]

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[@mariacatre]

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[@nickwilliams330]

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[@maryem9225]

I have to tell you, John, I watched Harvey in January of this year when i was close to, let's just say, losing it and myself. It was for me, similar to you, not an epiphany, but damn right close. I have a speech earlier this week where I talked about Harvey and that "I recommend pleasant quote" and I just wanted to scream into the void (the comment section) my gratitude for you and this channel. I wouldn't have stumbled onto Harvey on my own in a million years. So thanks.

[@CL-go2ji]

Hope you are in a better place!

[@2bleubird]

Harvey is such a wonderful film. I’ve always loved it even when I was a little kid.

[@Littaly]

Once you started regularly going over 4 minutes a while back it sort of dawned on me that the 4 minute limit is part of the reason I've gone for over ten years without missing a single video. It really is a perfect length, there is always time for it, and it still feels substantial enough to be enjoyable and thoughtful. Since the videos started going over I've had more than a few times where I've gone "okay, this is long, I'll watch this later" and then felt like I had to go back and watch it much later. I'm gonna vote to keep the 4 minute. But ultimately you guys do what makes you feel best. If that is taking it down a notch and have longer videos I won't complain :) (also, might I suggest a compromise? 4 minutes but you get a certain amount of longer non-educational videos a year or something?) edit: LONGER videos, not shorter 😅

[@TheAruelle]

I agree, I like the reliability of the four minute requirement (Guaranteed content I can watch when I'm killing a little pocket of time before work, yay!) but longer stuff can be fun too. I think keep the rule but make it less videos, like once a month you have to do a four minute one or something like that?

[@hazelalperin3816]

I've been doing this too and I'm rlly sad about it. I wanna watch all of them but I sometimes don't get to em anymore

[@TheGirlWhoExists]

This was also my thought on the matter! I don't want John or Hank to feel like it's an oppressive limitation but at the same time, the consistency is part of why I have been able to stay so connected.

[@granthagemann7866]

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[@HanabiraKage]

Oh definitely. It's okay for most videos to be about 4 or 5 minutes, but they should leave the door open to make the occasional long-form video if they deem it necessary for whatever they need to talk about.

[@btmomberry359]

As you have often said John, your goal for this channel is not to make it the largest platform possible. These videos are about sharing ya'll's thoughts and feelings and ideas to a community that is incredibly positive. The community is always very supportive of you doing what you need to do to balance this channel with the other things happening in your lives, and I also believe that this community is already invested enough into what you have to say that you don't need to fight for our attention like people need to other places on the internet. If you're making videos, whatever length they are, we're going to show up to listen.

[@brentmosser1494]

I totally agree, although if Hank and John feel the need for a structural challenge, I wonder if a larger time limit (5 or 6 mins or whatever) could be a happy medium?

[@btmomberry359]

@@brentmosser1494 That's a good point. Though I think may be good stick to the spirit of the rule without having to follow anything to the letter.

[@olewolf2]

For what it's worth John, I feel you have handled the uptick in notches magnificently. It's been a year, and you've risen to the occasion and succeeded at something many people would balk at. Not to mention Hank and his journey this year. Lots to be proud of in the Green families.

[@3_up_moon]

4:00 I think this video is going to be over 4 minutes. You are a true artist, sir!

[@roselightz_3027]

I personally love how short and concise, but at the same time funny, goofy and sometimes philosophical your videos are. And I do hope you will continue to make videos in the 4-5 minute range, but by all means do what makes KZbin and all your other responsibilities feel manageable! Knowing when to follow and when to ignore the rules, is what makes having them so good😂☺️

[@drakkneo]

Hey John, huge fan. Regarding the four minute rule, I need you to know that I trust both you and Hank with my attention absolutely. The amount of intellectual and spiritual value I have received from the Vlogbrothers extended universe has been incalculable, and as your experiences grow and change, I believe that value only increases. Thanks.

[@bruceboa6384]

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[@Christina-vs6cl]

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[@Nicoleashley1991]

Exactly

[@crystalclare1000]

"the notch situation" is my new favorite catchphrase

[@danielhodges7282]

My 2 cents is: make the videos as long or short as you like but keep in mind that 4 mins was a good rule of thumb and might be worth the occasional challenge if you're up for it. But I've enjoyed both long and short videos, what I care more about is you guys continuing to enjoy making videos because that's the joy that carries through the screen. I hope the notch situation improves for both of you 💜

[@robinh7386]

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[@christytarner9399]

I've been in Nerdfighteria since the beginning and watching this platform grow, as well as you and Hank, has been both an honor and a relief. A relief of finding a community of people who enjoy learning and growing and addressing a lot of the really hard stuff that life throws our way. I'll watch the videos regardless of the length, not only because I enjoy them and they challenge me, but because they feel like home and y'all feel like family. Whatever you all decide, we're here.

[@kerridsvids]

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[@maryannnichols1043]

Yes!! Well said.

[@Just_a_commenter]

You've done a bang up job this year, without question. You've supported your brother in one of the most troubling events one can be stricken by, you've assumed leadership at a capacity that is super impressive, and you've called out pharma companies for putting profit over people. Keep it up - you're doing your best, and your best is phenomenal. Edit: Personally, I think the 4 minute rule can be cut. You've learned to make better use of time, packing every last bit of value into each second you have. Some more seconds to communicate more value? I'm fine with that.

[@saoirsevicteoiria2759]

Cosigned.

[@Judymontel]

Agree. Also - the year isn't over yet... eek...

[@RamenNoodle1985]

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[@Xpndable]

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[@annajustis3434]

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[@untappedinkwell]

Also, re: comments: a huge, huge shout out to the mod team for all of our hard work in pulling the worst comments. While the biggest reason the comments were mostly lovely is because of nerdfighteria, I think a smaller reason is because of the work the mod team does.

[@SAmaryllis]

I didn't realize vlogbrothers had a mod team to flag and deal with comments! Thanks for sharing, I always try to report spam of course (that sometimes seems to just go into the void), but there's something to be said about removing comments with bad vibes

[@untappedinkwell]

@@SAmaryllis Yep! And thank you for reporting those spam comments! We have an *awesome* mod team, and it is really nice to know that the mod team helps make the comments section a little kinder and a little safer.

[@elainebelzDetroit]

@@untappedinkwell Thank you!

[@andieluke1366]

​@@elainebelzDetroitslight correction: *_a whole lot_* kinder and safer 😊 Thank you for all that you guys do!

[@untappedinkwell]

@@andieluke1366 Awwww, you're so sweet! Thank you for being here with us!

[@clusterbungle]

"The social response to the illness is part of what makes the illness so difficult." As someone with a chronic illness, this is so spot on.

[@pinkysaurusrawr]

~every~ john video makes me cry and I am forever grateful for it. The poll seems to be swinging my way - the four minute rule was a beautiful and probably necessary part of the journey. But I believe you've both learned how to make great, captivating, succinct videos, and we've all decided we're along for the ride no matter what, so I think the four minute rule can be laid to rest. dftba friends

[@jmmllr]

When everything shut down in 2020, nerdfighteria was a lighthouse of consistency: the one thing that didn't change. But, as you say, we aren't in charge of the notch situation. 🎉 I'm busy and love the regularity of these videos. I build them into my work schedule and have for a decade now. But my world isn't so rigid that a hard and fast rule is needed. I fully support a modified 4ish minute rule. Say what you need to say, be brief, be consistent, be honest, and be hopeful. Thanks!!!

[@Eleanorwithherboots]

modified 4ish minute rule!

[@untappedinkwell]

+++ Nerdfighteria's consistency during the pandemonium was a huge help. 4ish minutes seems like a great option, tbh.

[@ThatllShowEm]

I like this slightly around 4 minutes rule. Still keep it short, but we'll allow more grace.

[@suprspecialawsm]

Hi John! I trust your and Hank's judgement completely on how long your videos are. If it cuts down on time scripting and editing or even just gives you the space to say what you want to say, go for it! Nerdfighteria would honestly be able to deal with fewer videos too if you needed that change. We care about you as people, not as content. May your notches soon begin to step themselves down. Wishing you all the best! ❤

[@karinwolf3645]

I couldn't have said it better!! 💋💖💋💖💃😆😎🌵👵🌹🖖

[@bruceboa6384]

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[@123amsterdan456]

Thank you guys so much for everything

[@carlhutto811]

I appreciate you guys so much

[@commanderlao3923]

Looking forward to Hank’s 12 minute rants on unfair systems and to John’s 2 hour docuseries episodes on Tuberculosis through time!

[@sheaelliott942]

Even with the 4-minute rule suspended, I think it is clear that the content and quality of your videos are not compromised. I love the 4-minute rule because I never feel as though I can't fit a video into my schedule with it. However, your writing has undoubtedly improved due to years of the 4-minute rule, so that even with it suspended, a majority of videos have still been under 6 minutes (a very consumable amount of time). I like the idea of a time cap, but I think increasing that cap permanently to 5-6 minutes or so is well worth it. Keeps a challenge, takes it down a notch, but we still receive quality content because you've practiced giving it to us in such a concise way for years. Forever grateful for this community and the way you've built it up!

[@penguingirl42]

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[@ThatllShowEm]

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[@haggielady]

I love this. You do this so well.

[@Jeff-so3kj]

I love you guys and will watch your videos at whatever length you publish them.

[@RenameUranus2Caelus]

"It's not about Hank" is such a healthy, mature perspective

[@nickwilliams330]

Notches all the way up.

[@ericnewburger6837]

My best wishes for your brother’s health, and your notch situation.

[@Mariarosey]

You continue to inspire and teach, I can hang around a little longer.

[@stevenb891]

I love the subtle threat to call out a second drug company this year 😂

[@vlogbrothers]

They know who they are. -John

[@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721]

Just letting them know that John can take it up yet another notch if need be.

[@t.h.1492]

Rules are meant to be helpful (at least the good ones anyway). If a rule isn’t doing that, there’s no shame in amending it. Wishing you both well in your notch levels! You are both doing admirably despite the circumstances

[@SomeoneNone123]

Make the videos in the way that feels the least stressfull for you! We'll enjoy what your doing - especially if you don't stress yourself over it. 🌻

[@livabehji8980]

i LOVED this video. you are both such blessings to humanity. love you guys.

[@MMM-cj5th]

You both have been producing great content for so many years that I believe you can trust your own judgement when it comes to deciding what is essential to keep in a video. And I'm pretty sure most of nerdfighteria will continue watching these videos whether they are 4 or 45 minutes. It's perfectly reasonable at this point to try out longer videos and see whether the 4-minute format is still helpful or not, without having to undergo punishments like eating blended happy meals, giving dozens of peeps to strangers, or spending 14 hours in a Target.

[@louismyers8845]

An abundance of notches

[@daltongrowley5280]

Thanks for the update on the notch situation!

[@terryenby2304]

“You do not get to decide the notch situation” is a very important life lesson. I learned it rather young with chronic illness and disabilities. But I can choose how I see the world and what I try and do. So I try and enjoy everything I possibly can. And I try and share as much love, knowledge, kindness and compassion as possible. Because that’s what I would like most from other humans.

[@franklydoodle350]

In wish you the best of luck in taking it down a notch.

[@robotowl42]

I kind of love these longer videos. Sure they depart from the old rule, but they feel more ernest and I'm enjoying them.

[@mattatron64]

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[@sherriejackson663]

4 minutes is not enough time with you guys! Love your content.

[@steffiwoda6738]

Very touching last 10 seconds. I really felt that. You and your brother are such warm persons at heart and I am glad to have found your chanels

[@emilycarr2913]

Jinx of the year award goes to John

[@TrondBrgeKrokli]

More than 4 minutes is fine with me, it is more about the content, its importance and how it flows. Thank you lots and lots for being on point and topical.

[@RachelMiller-mk4er]

I like having the longer videos. I really appreciate listening to you guys, I like your worldview, and the concrete hope that you guys share.

[@ms.ggrose]

Love you guys Speak however long the point or topic needs because it’s important to us as it is to you

[@LemonDawn1]

I love that Hank is still coming up with tons of business ideas. Wishing you both the best for the rest of the year ❤

[@soumaya4960]

1) I'm genuinely happy to see you kinda joyful. Your smile at the end warmed my heart after many weeks of heavier (although excellent) videos. 2) This style of videos where you reflect on the (recent) past may be my favorite kind. I love listening to you putting previous certainties into perspectives. 3) I like the 4-minute format because my attention span had been considerably shortened by social media content, and anything longer feels too long to be worth watching. Except for your videos! They are so great! Make them as long as you want!

[@billy101cat]

Happy to keep on watching however long these brotherly vlogs get too!

[@bigkingcon8971]

Just found out my crash course teacher has cancer. I cant stop the tears. I truly appreciate what you both do, always positive

[@talos_the_automaton2329]

It’s up to y’all of course. The 4 minute rule is definitely a great way to keep engagement, but sometimes more time is needed. I think as long as y’all don’t go over 10-15 minutes, it will be good. I have no doubts that no matter how long the video is y’all will make great use of every second.

[@penguingirl42]

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[@heathergretton6827]

It's lovely how much you guys care about us and our opinions. At this point I think we should trust you both to just do what's best from video to video. Please continue making all the videos you want to make. Educational or not, 4 mins isn't enough sometimes!

[@kts8900]

Strong preference for 4 minutes. You are one of the few channels I watch every video, and the short form high quality content is one of the reasons. Thank you for all of the hard work.

[@Cathie46]

Keep on cranking on those notches. You guys are inspirations for us All. Fight on!

[@dejpatch4280]

I cannot wait see how the Notch situation ends up by this time next year

[@JoyBlossomCreations]

Thank you, John (and Hank), for always helping bring down my notches with wit, heart education, and whimsy. In finding you, I've found my people. May many notch lowering opportunities find you both, and may you be able to carpe lowered notches! DFTBA 💚💚💚

[@clockworkkirlia7475]

This. This is an important video about the notch situation. Thank you, Hank and John!

[@mrs.stoeger6738]

The discussion on notch-levels is endearing and you just talk as long as it feels right. We will be here listening!

[@louismyers8845]

IT'S ENOUGH NOTCHES

[@newmoonjlp]

The social stigma associated with so many diseases, both physical and mental, absolutely elevates the notch situation beyond imagining. Thank you for bringing awareness to this unintended consequence.

[@susanhaertel294]

I will listen to your voice for however long you choose to speak!❤❤❤❤

[@oliviagiles]

I absolutely love you and hank and everything you guys have made happen in the world.

[@R2debo_]

Best of luck to all on their own Notch Situations. Remember that there are many people around you who are always ready to cheer you on through your individual Notch Situation ❤️

[@kb470]

Oh good. John still managed to bring up TB.

[@mugglemom9135]

Whether your videos are four minutes or longer they always serve to take my stress level down a notch or two so vlog away, brothers! I'm here for it. ❤

[@fefwis]

I would listen to y'all talk for hours. You are both interesting people in your own ways.

[@marysuehayward7486]

I love the 4-minute limit. It inspires me to be concise too. Perhaps a value of clarity over brevity is warranted. When a topic needs more time, make a longer video. I do love the longer reunion videos though! They give me joy :)

[@pixiepearls3]

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[@kadanseward3022]

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[@echoberson]

Somehow, you two always seem to say just what I need to hear when I'm watching. From Hank waxing poetic about his experiences with Cancer while I get ready for my own doctor's appointment to deal with my chronic issues with the rant about Notches at the beginning of this video while reflecting on how absolutely wild this year has been....Thank you both so much for still being here after 15+ years of notches and growing pains.

[@psiga]

Any amount of time you guys decide to share with us, I think we trust you to put your whole hearts into it. We're all enjoying the ride!

[@henrybrice86]

Thank you for bringing us along with you. May your notches turn downwards with all haste.

[@LDN_MZK]

I always liked the 'challenge' that you two set by forcing an in-depth topic into only 4 minutes, but equally, I enjoy the more serious, longer videos. Honesty, any length... VlogBrothers has given me so much, leading my brother and I to being closer. So, make videos of any length and I will continue to watch and enjoy them regardless. 🙂 DFTBA!

[@bigguy3]

Love the videos John, you’re doing great with all of this stuff!

[@thelemonwho]

I trust you guys to make every video exactly as long as it needs to be. 🖖❤🖖

[@melbournewolf]

Thankyou John, you and Hank both bring renewed humanity to my world, see you next time

[@Clangdon0148]

Love the videos, keep them long please!

[@QwertyByte]

Abandoning the 4 min rule is a helluva notch, but by all means go for it!

[@tinak.wilson3184]

Love the four minute rule for general stuff... love the option to expand depending on subject/message. Sending you and Hank (and your families) much love, healing vibes, and squishy hugs!

[@willstokes123]

I like 4 mins. It makes the longer videos as and when necessary feel more special or important.