Take Refuge in the Now

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Rupert Spira

Rupert Spira

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@886888aa
@886888aa 6 жыл бұрын
I find sitting with and turning towards my boredom one of the most powerful practices I have.
@kennethwilliams4169
@kennethwilliams4169 Жыл бұрын
I listen to Rupert whilst on vacation as well 😊
@ronnie4863
@ronnie4863 4 жыл бұрын
There isn’t enough gratitude I can express for this man’s existence. Am so fortunate to have access to his videos. Whenever I get stuck one of his videos answers my question or questions.
@kathrynphillips3710
@kathrynphillips3710 2 жыл бұрын
couldnt agree more! 🙏
@juicecitygee
@juicecitygee 3 жыл бұрын
I was looking for something to meditate to, accidentally clicked on this talk and it was exactly what I needed. I noticed in my experience the same thing, a feeling of trying to save myself from something. It takes courage.
@lynnwoudberg9447
@lynnwoudberg9447 6 жыл бұрын
You always seem to say the most helpful thing at exactly the right moment. Thankyou so much Rupert, your guidance is precious!
@YaTut169
@YaTut169 4 жыл бұрын
The only thing that is appearing to stop you from enlightenment/self-realization/eternal life/knowing yourself to be unconditional love is identification with thoughts, emotions, sensations, perceptions and experiences instead of being aware of being aware and knowing yourself to be that unconditional love pure consciousness in which all thoughts, emotions, sensations, perceptions and experiences appear but are not inherently one with you; they are an expression of unconditional love; you are that infinite that is expressing itself as suffering/pleasure but inherently you are neither; you are that nothing/unconditional love/pure consciousness in which they are appear and by which they are perceived; Suffering/pleasure comes and goes; there is an awareness that is aware of them coming and going; that you are; remember and know what you are; never identify with anything that is appearing within you; since it appears within you; it can't be you; you are that in which it appears. When you abide as that in which it appears instead of identifying; nothing has a grip on you; if anything comes; it quickly goes; like clouds passing; only if you identify as a cloud then it will appear as if the cloud is here for longer than it is originally supposed to; if you simply rest as the awareness and do not identify; it will quickly dissolve; be unconditional love by being aware of being aware; this is the highest; this is what you are seeking in absolutely everything else; you are seeking yourself; you are seeking unconditional love; but you are looking outside of yourself; instead of being aware that you already are timeless, unchanging, eternal, unconditional love, peace, joy, compassion, wisdom, contentment and fulfillment; your true self is what all beings seek. Love love
@ranjitkaur9486
@ranjitkaur9486 2 жыл бұрын
Such a blessing to listen to the Master,,,🙏
@nirodha35
@nirodha35 6 жыл бұрын
Hate to disappoint you, Rupert but .... I will keep on watching your clips ;-)
@1TrueNature
@1TrueNature 6 жыл бұрын
nirodha35 Lol
@claudelebel49
@claudelebel49 5 жыл бұрын
No problem, but you will only be cheating yourself if it is an avoidance :)
@YaTut169
@YaTut169 4 жыл бұрын
The only thing that is appearing to stop you from enlightenment/self-realization/eternal life/knowing yourself to be unconditional love is identification with thoughts, emotions, sensations, perceptions and experiences instead of being aware of being aware and knowing yourself to be that unconditional love pure consciousness in which all thoughts, emotions, sensations, perceptions and experiences appear but are not inherently one with you; they are an expression of unconditional love; you are that infinite that is expressing itself as suffering/pleasure but inherently you are neither; you are that nothing/unconditional love/pure consciousness in which they are appear and by which they are perceived; Suffering/pleasure comes and goes; there is an awareness that is aware of them coming and going; that you are; remember and know what you are; never identify with anything that is appearing within you; since it appears within you; it can't be you; you are that in which it appears. When you abide as that in which it appears instead of identifying; nothing has a grip on you; if anything comes; it quickly goes; like clouds passing; only if you identify as a cloud then it will appear as if the cloud is here for longer than it is originally supposed to; if you simply rest as the awareness and do not identify; it will quickly dissolve; be unconditional love by being aware of being aware; this is the highest; this is what you are seeking in absolutely everything else; you are seeking yourself; you are seeking unconditional love; but you are looking outside of yourself; instead of being aware that you already are timeless, unchanging, eternal, unconditional love, peace, joy, compassion, wisdom, contentment and fulfillment; your true self is what all beings seek. Love love
@MattyLiam333
@MattyLiam333 2 жыл бұрын
Bro, hahaha, I feel you. LOL. This comment has my body in such laughter. But yea you really do have to cut it off every once in a while and just rest in the silence of your dwelling. There is far more laughter to be had there than you're amazingly funny comment. Much love and let the light shine bro. Haha, still laughing.
@AK11020
@AK11020 6 жыл бұрын
Suffering from a cold at the moment, and feeling trapped. All the mind wants to do is run away from unpleasant sensations and feelings. But in a moment of clarity I realised that seeking escape is the suffering itself and not the sensations and feelings being experienced. I guess all suffering ultimately is the result of non acceptance of the present moment that is being experienced. But, it's so hard to just accept the moment and abide in the now, especially when we've been told all our lives that we must always be striving for something better than what is transpiring now. The end of that rainbow, that better place is never found and remains perpetually elusive. Alas, what I'd give just to accept and stop searching for that peace which has eluded me as far back as I can remember. I feel certain that the moment I stop looking and no longer want it, that whatever I've been chasing will be there.
@Ibrahims14
@Ibrahims14 6 жыл бұрын
AK11020 ..... Well said!
@happyface8488
@happyface8488 6 жыл бұрын
So profound
@ericafrances7110
@ericafrances7110 6 жыл бұрын
Beautiful
@theprimalwisdom4929
@theprimalwisdom4929 6 жыл бұрын
Beautifully put. It's rare to find people that "get it". Go in love 🕉
@dragonfurp
@dragonfurp 6 жыл бұрын
how about accepting that you want to find peace? If you finally admit to yourself that you want peace then you will quickly realise that you are not able to find peace.
@louistourneur6113
@louistourneur6113 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you, that's so true in my exoerience. Facing the negative emotion without trying to change it is the only thing that really works for me.
@raindropcleaners
@raindropcleaners 6 жыл бұрын
In my experience, the more often I faced these negative emotions and shined the light of awareness on them, each time they get less intense, eventually, they will come up but quickly fall into oblivion without leaving any smell or stain on your perfect self.
@naveengamini3445
@naveengamini3445 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome Video Rupeet.. Whenever I observe I run away from NOW with distractions , I watch this video as a reminder.. Best video I watched multiple times..Thabks Rupert 🙏🙏🙏
@jacquesboutelet8643
@jacquesboutelet8643 4 жыл бұрын
Listening to you gives me so much peace !
@jamesthomas1244
@jamesthomas1244 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Rupert. This right here is the core message of the pathless-path. Open and allow, rather than run. Move into, rather than away.
@mohdshahnawaz.australia
@mohdshahnawaz.australia 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely loved this video. Thank you so much for this valuable information. Lots of love from an Australian 🇦🇺❤
@CBDWoman
@CBDWoman 4 жыл бұрын
What we long for resides in our suffering 🙏 💚
@angiek7614
@angiek7614 3 жыл бұрын
I see this. This is beautiful. I have the courage to be and do this. Amen! So be it. So be it. So be it.
@dorarebelo673
@dorarebelo673 5 жыл бұрын
“The separate self is like a character in a movie that travels the world in search of the screen.” Apparently the movie and the screen complement each other very well. “The separate self is the rejection of the Now. I, Awareness, am in love with the Now. In fact, I am the Now.” I suspect that Now reciprocates because Now and Love are the same. ;) 💌💌💌💌 we've got mail
@dozartmusicproductions3149
@dozartmusicproductions3149 6 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for my next moment of suffering to practice what he says here!
@claudelebel49
@claudelebel49 4 жыл бұрын
So how did it go?
@hashberry111
@hashberry111 2 жыл бұрын
@@claudelebel49 He ded
@andreasrylander
@andreasrylander Жыл бұрын
​@@hashberry111 Haha!! 😂
@pallabdatta6926
@pallabdatta6926 2 жыл бұрын
Underneath every suffering of experience of bad past there is an underlying happiness but the unavoidable truth is that you have to directly face the experiences of bad past, you have to go to the heart of every experience of the bad past, you have to sit face to face with each and every bad past you have created, you have to solve them, resolve them, suffer them and work on them as much as they require to be done till their demand for attention is fully fulfilled with no left over or unattended event. You have to accept them as own fault, own sin till you are fully defeated and surrendered to them. Then only you can get access to that happiness when they will themselves release you from their back-pulls, interferences and all related vibrations. You have to acknowledge that you cannot access this happiness by your own effort how much you try unless the experiences of bad past, the incidents, the events are not fully satisfied and open the gate for you.
@eligoodwin5624
@eligoodwin5624 4 жыл бұрын
Truth! I finally get that being completely Present is the Undeniable Central Feature of the Direct Path. (I use caps not to make these words religious. If italics were available, I would use them.) This is very point the Byron Katie brings us to in The Work. Escape can only bring temporary peace, and what we are avoiding will be brought back by the Loving Divinity for us to face and grow into our true beingness.
@grahamrobson998
@grahamrobson998 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Rupert.
@prosanjitsaha3487
@prosanjitsaha3487 6 жыл бұрын
It works as an instant relief... In only understanding your wisdom brings peace Rupert. Thanks
@kathrynphillips3710
@kathrynphillips3710 2 жыл бұрын
wherever i go, there i am..🙏
@kathrynphillips3710
@kathrynphillips3710 2 жыл бұрын
wonderful 💗 Thankyou Rupert 💗🙏💗
@jdncoke2
@jdncoke2 6 жыл бұрын
i'm a fool, i highly highly highly doubt these teachings until i a few months later when i've gone more in too being and only then do i 'get it', or else i see a simple video like this and again i'm proven wrong- he seems to know the truth. my ego is very badly behaved at the moment
@bulletsmichael
@bulletsmichael 3 жыл бұрын
Who is this "i" that is a fool? Is that a real/permanent thing? Or just a dreamed self, a thought... And then who is this i that questions and recognizes even that.
@ericafrances7110
@ericafrances7110 6 жыл бұрын
It's so interesting. I have been struggling with a lot of intense anxiety recently and in moments when it is very strong, I recall reading in various places "be present with the emotion", I try, but it doesn't feel right or seem to help. Rupert has just clarified that to be present, means to be present as beingness in the background of the emotion. I feel almost silly, but I now realise I have really been identifying as the emotion by trying to "be with in". This, I imagine, is why so many people struggle with "being present with emotions".
@ericafrances7110
@ericafrances7110 6 жыл бұрын
With it*
@1TrueNature
@1TrueNature 6 жыл бұрын
feel the worst of it, go right into it, you will not regret it😊
@monikasitarz2543
@monikasitarz2543 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your work💓
@James-tc6nv
@James-tc6nv 6 жыл бұрын
Beautiful. Thank you now.
@katebeatham333
@katebeatham333 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Love and blessings to all of us.
@Misslotusification
@Misslotusification 5 жыл бұрын
Reminds me Pema Chödrön's shenpa and The Wisdom of No Escape as well as Tara Brach teachings, with a pinch of Eckhart Tolle and Byron Katie. Then I ask myself, who is bored / restless / sad? No need to explore the root cause of those feelings, it's the natural state of the separate self for whom the present, where there are no problems, is never good enough.
@woodmowwoodmow
@woodmowwoodmow Жыл бұрын
We can avoid our suffering by facing our suffering Always counter intuitive
@lfbeam
@lfbeam 4 жыл бұрын
Helpful! Ty!
@prasannabhat6047
@prasannabhat6047 6 жыл бұрын
Very beautiful!! Thank you
@GLJ-cd5hs
@GLJ-cd5hs 6 жыл бұрын
Powerful Rup! Thanks bro
@praveshdhawan3842
@praveshdhawan3842 6 жыл бұрын
Great talk . Thanks alot
@differentstrokesfordiffere5440
@differentstrokesfordiffere5440 6 жыл бұрын
Amen...Thank you ..
@lukapesun
@lukapesun 2 жыл бұрын
thank you for talking about spiritual bypassing! I was stuck there for a while :)
@ZENderista
@ZENderista 6 жыл бұрын
Perfect timing
@tamaspojbics7274
@tamaspojbics7274 6 жыл бұрын
crystal clear Thank YOU!
@joy860
@joy860 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you.....
@nondualcafe
@nondualcafe 6 жыл бұрын
I agree with the overall idea of not escaping the present into the mind/future/past etc. However, it also seems that investigating the individual who seems to be suffering (ie. exactly to whom is the suffering occurring etc.) and how it arises in the moment, may be a valid way of being with suffering (along with his suggestion to fully accept and be present with suffering/sensations). This might seem to be an 'escape' from the immediate pain, however, it is uncovering the root of the suffering IMO.
@gireeshneroth7127
@gireeshneroth7127 4 жыл бұрын
The separate self, ego, mind, body and the universe and time have all sourced their existence and experiences from pure consciousness. Even energy has its source in pure consciousness. Everything is energy first before they are whatever they are. And energy has its source in pure consciousness.
@mirek857
@mirek857 5 жыл бұрын
I like your videos. You can speak to rational part of my inner self. I woul like to practice but I don't know how.
@zain4019
@zain4019 4 жыл бұрын
Abide as the Self:)
@LIMITSDESTROYED
@LIMITSDESTROYED 6 жыл бұрын
Tears of relief ✌️❤️
@chvl5631
@chvl5631 2 жыл бұрын
God incarnation 🙏🏻
@consciousawareness6020
@consciousawareness6020 6 жыл бұрын
Just try not to be in the Now! 😊
@claudelebel49
@claudelebel49 4 жыл бұрын
I'm a total failure, I hopeless case. No matter how hard I try I can't seem to remain anchored in the Now :)
@jonashjerpe7421
@jonashjerpe7421 6 жыл бұрын
"There is no suffering in the now". Imagine that you experience absolute terror. In order not to suffer you go straight into the feeling and sense it fully, in the body, in the now. Let us assume that you succeed in this respect. Presence allows the energy and emotion of terror to move as it pleases. Is there no suffering then, in the absolute presence of terror? Well, you will most certainly feel pain as the energies contract and expand in and through vital parts of your body. If we say, as does Rupert, that this strong sensation is not suffering I suggest we are deluded by semantics. There is suffering in the present moment precisely to the extent that we fail to experience the contraction, the resistance fully. It is very hard to experience powerful, negative feelings fully. If we experience them as alive energies moving through the body, then we actually feel them in the present moment. But surely you will most likely experience some degree of suffering. Opening in this regard to the body and emotions, energies is however the way to liberate ourselves from suffering, eventually. But its hard work. In the body, in the present moment. Through suffering onto the other shore.
@vincesina9786
@vincesina9786 5 жыл бұрын
Torture victims at some point change the pain into pleasure and actually begin to crave the pain. The mind is very powerful my friend.. Ps. Also see Stockholm syndrome.
@nirmalapersaud7589
@nirmalapersaud7589 5 жыл бұрын
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@Magnoliasdiary
@Magnoliasdiary 5 жыл бұрын
You are confusing pain with suffering.
@IsaiahMolina37
@IsaiahMolina37 5 жыл бұрын
Suffering is pain made up into a personal story.
@dorarebelo673
@dorarebelo673 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, baby. The inescapable now it is....it is where we take refuge. 😌
@surfinmuso37
@surfinmuso37 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting side note. The psychedelic mind is definitely a taste of being in the now. Normal, everyday seemingly random thought takes a back seat, the concept of ourself diminishes and moment to moment experience takes precedence. Vacation/trip-with both experiences there is something new constantly happening that draws the attention toward the present.
@pantherenebuleuse
@pantherenebuleuse 6 жыл бұрын
To me going on vacation is not getting away from anything! I go because It’s so dope!
@12cunow
@12cunow 5 жыл бұрын
"The release of suffering is on the other side of the responsibility for it." .. CG
@haunteddeandollsuk
@haunteddeandollsuk Жыл бұрын
it means enjoy the moment at the present
@lolaanava6686
@lolaanava6686 6 жыл бұрын
My question is this: if our sole intention is to get to that state, then why would the decision to incarnate into hyper focused separate realties in the first place? I think there may be more to it. Maybe we are to experience things and bring back that experience to a soul group. Because if we are trying so much to do nothing but climb back into that state, why leave in the first place???
@raindropcleaners
@raindropcleaners 6 жыл бұрын
In order to experience the world, consciousness believes itself to be seperate. Going into deep sleep there is nothing, when you wake, the world comes into view through the finite mind. Also, maybe consciousness wants the experience of transcending the mind to remember itself.
@rushardedward
@rushardedward 4 жыл бұрын
For fun :)
@tonynes3577
@tonynes3577 6 жыл бұрын
Going on vacation; this is to plan where I might want to retire to.
@ceeIoc
@ceeIoc 4 жыл бұрын
Asia?
@richardetsophiemichel-guit2447
@richardetsophiemichel-guit2447 5 жыл бұрын
Is il possible to have french translation ? Tank you very much Sophie
@Kuling98
@Kuling98 6 жыл бұрын
But like, is this something we can do? Is effort needed?
@Workdove
@Workdove 6 жыл бұрын
Easier said than done.
@aminetanouyat9643
@aminetanouyat9643 5 жыл бұрын
No dont bulshit around the idea. This is another way of escaping from the Now. You need to get real and do it or you will keep on creating excuses like that.
@Workdove
@Workdove 5 жыл бұрын
@@aminetanouyat9643 I've tried. Meditated for hours at a time. Dedicated myself to the pursuit of enlightenment..and eventually gave up, realizing that only an act of grace could provide it. There is no way to force grace to occur.
@aminetanouyat9643
@aminetanouyat9643 5 жыл бұрын
@@Workdove exactlu you can't force it to come nor seek to achieve it. In a way, it has to be spontaneous, natural, clear and free of Egoic Mind
@MarwanMarwan-zv9mf
@MarwanMarwan-zv9mf 5 жыл бұрын
Why most spiritual teachers set next to that kind of plant (flower next to him?
@ricardobarzilay9743
@ricardobarzilay9743 6 жыл бұрын
What about the case in which our body is in such a state so as to produce fear in and of its own. And circumstances surrounding or contributing to cause this fear generate such an uneasyness that one is incapable of stopping in that because one feels one might burst(desperation)
@hummerh40
@hummerh40 6 жыл бұрын
without thought, what you've described is just another sensation, and it will go away on its own if you don't conceptualise it
@happyface8488
@happyface8488 6 жыл бұрын
I feel what you're saying and it's scary and we want to go eat or even freeze...that's because we are going into the experience with our mind..then we have a loop that feeds the fear more. Go into it as Rupert says. ..but only with that sense of Presence...or that Awareness. ..or God. ..or I am...feel that and sink into the "fear" without expectation. Just be there. You are that sense of Presence. However you feel like you're the fear...the Presence will give you warmth and love to the point you melt into it...and realize you are It. Whilst still feeling like a person. We can't get rid of the person as we'd have no life. However we know deeply the person is a temporary sensory being...for Awareness or Presence to experience itself through the world of forms..
@mementomori5374
@mementomori5374 5 жыл бұрын
Rupert would stay cool even if you would throw a snake on him😁love this amazing human being
@exstazius
@exstazius 5 жыл бұрын
My mind just comes with the question: incase of boredom if i schould not meditate of watch a clip on youtube or read what wil i do than? It is almoust scared
@TheChristz3
@TheChristz3 6 жыл бұрын
One minute question!!!!!!!
@adamshawart
@adamshawart 4 жыл бұрын
Rupert, :)
@stephanaitch
@stephanaitch 6 жыл бұрын
🙏
@allertonoff4
@allertonoff4 6 жыл бұрын
hmm .. dunno 'bout that one Spira .. i just don't see how it is possible to always have the answer and to always say the right thing .. so how _does_ that work then ? .. respects, j
@ernestweber5207
@ernestweber5207 6 жыл бұрын
Well, in Dharma it is referred to as appropriate behavior. In other words, the insight to be with the context and behave in direct relationship with it. That is the recognition that self and other and circumstances arise together in the present whereas the mind as intellect can conceive otherwise, hence thought always being the past making comparisons of what is with what was or will be. One way to recognize this is, without passing judgement, notice how and when people can be out of context or even seem to be completely removed from what is going on in the moment. Well, it is better to do that with your own experience, but getting a sense of that directly will indicate how that works. You can then notice it is "just happening" as a unitary motion and that ideas of object and event vs. self and its experiences are a conceptual construct. That construct is useful, but what teachings are getting at is the identification with the process as conditioned confusion. It is very simple, really.
@zendog8592
@zendog8592 6 жыл бұрын
Sorry Rupert but a new born baby does have memories. The Buddhist manifestation only teachings say that our ancestors life experiences and memories, are embedded within our cells and DNA, implicit memory stored as seeds within our store consciousness. Babies know pain and suffering, for its the very energy that propelled them into human experience in the first place. Mind consciousness does not process it as thought but as a feeling and knowing. Babies suffer and the know they suffer when harm is done to them, it doesn’t require thinking to suffer, it is felt. Consider a turtle when it hatches, they immediately scuttle to the ocean as fast as their baby legs can carry them, this to avoid almost certain death, it does so out of cellular implicate memory, that memory contains fear but implicit memory also contains the joy of life and the freedom the ocean contains.
@bashopoem
@bashopoem 6 жыл бұрын
There are many kinds of suffering.
@samuelgonzalez4799
@samuelgonzalez4799 Жыл бұрын
culte👍
@renzbartolo6345
@renzbartolo6345 3 жыл бұрын
So have a vacation in the now?
@esneliamunoz5082
@esneliamunoz5082 2 ай бұрын
🕉🕉🕉
@semihkoc
@semihkoc 6 жыл бұрын
what if I'm suffering from hunger
@69MrBunny
@69MrBunny 6 жыл бұрын
Then go and have something to eat.
@paveltralala2794
@paveltralala2794 6 жыл бұрын
Hello is there someone who can give me some little advice? :D When i was doing self-inqury from mooji channel in the middle of that inquiry video i had for myself extremely deep experience..... my probably "true self" gets separated from mind and doesnt matter what i was looking at everything seemd to me like a true miracle, there was no future or past, but only moment right now. and i didnt know it intelectually but i was really experiencing all those things. BUT IT LASTED FOR ABOUT 15 MINUTES :/// Then it went completely gone to my normal perecption. Does anybody has the same issue? Every time i do self-inquiry again i cant get into that state :D wich really frustrate me
@Shazbut0191
@Shazbut0191 6 жыл бұрын
All sounds good. Don't be too concerned about the experience as that's not the important bit. The important bit is the opening or shift in consciousness that precipitated that experience. That shift isn't an experience and there's no way to 'know' it, so don't be concerned about that either. Just keep the inquiry fresh and be as innocent about all this as you were at the beginning. You're after something much deeper than an experience. An experience is not enough to fulfil the heart as they are always, by nature, temporary. Only the recognition that the heart has always been fulfilled will end the search, and that comes by itself, through no concern and no effort, if you abandon all interest in anything you encounter in meditation but remain focused on resolving the life issue: Who really is this? Who am I? What is life? Call it what you will, but just become pure question, pure innocence, and ignore the answers. Ignore even these instructions if you feel they get in the way. I strongly recommend finding a teacher in your daily life who you can meet with. There are more around than you may think, especially if you're near a major city.
@happyface8488
@happyface8488 6 жыл бұрын
The teaching is whatever comes and goes. ..even a beautiful awakening experience is in time...you are the timeless who knows. ..you're there to see it come and to see it go...Who Are You. Accept every experience but don't get attached to it as it takes you into time which is the mind...any mind movement isn't who you are. Just stay as the Awareness. Which cannot be objectified. Or known through the mind.
@paveltralala2794
@paveltralala2794 6 жыл бұрын
@@Shazbut0191 Oh my god you excellenty described what deeply lead me into that state. Before that experience happend ME as myslef was deeply vanishig and i simply could not find myslef as an experience BUT something absolutly wierd beyond my understating, something like "nothing" and by nothing i dont mean any kind of experience. But this is somehow hard to do it again because im still identified with body and mind, not as much as before, but still. Anyway really thank for your answer
@paveltralala2794
@paveltralala2794 6 жыл бұрын
@@happyface8488 Yes, yes im still trying to realized that. All those things that u described was in my living experience while i had that higher conscious state of being. I will keep somehow trying :D thank you
@happyface8488
@happyface8488 6 жыл бұрын
@@paveltralala2794 You are always the Awareness... that cognizng emptiness... Marinate in That. It's always here. Without it there's no experience. Relax and let go of the rest..otherwise it will "seem" to separate you and you'll keep seeking..seeking is a pain. 💜 Namaste ☺
@nimim.markomikkila1673
@nimim.markomikkila1673 6 жыл бұрын
I don´t know. But I would say, that it is possible to suffer without conceptualization. I have worked both with small kids and autistic older kids, and would say that they suffer without conceptualizing it. Being identified with the uncomfortable feeling is suffering. (This might be also about semantics.) The conceptualization just brings extra unnecessary layers on the suffering. But the first layer is just the feeling with identification. And infants do that, in the pre-egoic stage. Otherwise infants would be awakened, right? Rupert has himself talked about the difference of pre-egoic state and the post-egoic state, and here he seems to forget it. Just saying:) Respects, anyways!:)
@ernestweber5207
@ernestweber5207 6 жыл бұрын
Ken Wilber goes into the pre/trans fallacy in relation to that, and in depth. However, it mainly applies to various views and the relationship between religion, science and philosophy. What is difficult about what we observe in others is that our capacity for empathy can be projected onto the other and we can act "as if" it is true. I make no assertions on that being wrong or right, but if you listen to Rupert enough and contemplate what he is pointing to, then the true nature of suffering can be more clear. It has long been a subject of investigation and that is the best way to approach it. Putting aside assumptions can allow for deeper insight into it. The first question, which will seem to be radical, is: Does suffering exist? Consider that and from there, look deeply into suffering itself and what it means. For instance, though it may seem like common sense to believe that pain and suffering are the same, it behooves us to parse that and see if it is necessarily so in all cases.
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