Taking our '69 Camaro into the Modern Era - Detroit Muscle S7, E12

NEW 2020 episode! We take our '69 Camaro and upgrade the suspension, brakes, and tires to give it better handling and performance on the street.
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PARTS USED IN THIS EPISODE
RockAuto.com
Bilstein B12 Pro Kit
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Summit Racing
5-spoke Weld RTS Wheels
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Summit Racing
Brake kit
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General Tire
Continental Extreme Contact Sport Tire
Heidt's Hot Rod Shop
4-link suspension kit
Heidt's Hot Rod Shop
Pro-G sub-frame suspension
Matco Tools
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Sea Foam
Sea Foam High Mileage
The Industrial Depot
Tools, Hardware, Shop Supplies

[@adamtheninjasmith2985]

My dad always says a car should stop before it goes. Being able to stop faster is always a good thing. It might even keep you from wrecking your ride you know? 👍

[@Timmayytoo]

Holy crap! They got Mark acknowledging the KZbin audience. Smart move.

[@MrMaxpower76]

Say hi to Tom for me Tim

[@billconservative9503]

When I was a kid, my neighbor had a 69 Z28, 4 speed and a DZ302. It was this crazy orange with white stripes. To this day my favorite car ever!

[@JerryDLTN]

I had the chance to by a '69 Z28 as my first car in 1988. It was $5000 and looked great. Had the cash but my Dad said no. He said it'd kill me and the insurance would be too high. :-(

[@billconservative9503]

@@JerryDLTN When I got my license at 16, my friends brother was selling a Red Cutlass convertible with a 455 and 4 spd. My dad took a look under the hood and said "No fkn way"😂 So I feel your pain but my father was right, I was all balls and no brains back then 😜

[@robertc4311]

Jerry Lifsey My dad did the same thing back in 78 when I looked at a 70 Boss 302 Mustang, and a 69 Z28...guess the old guys knew. I settled for a 73 Type LT RS Camaro...I finally got a 69 RS/SS with a ZL2 hood when I was 33. Didn’t need the old mans permission then. LOL!

[@TickleFingers]

Some people turn their nose up at restomods. I personally love them. I think it's great to see these vehicles surviving and driving as a daily again. I wish I still had my 1971 Pontiac T-37. I would throw an LS in it and put modern underpinnings in it in a heartbeat. I would probably drive it every day again. Now if it was an early 69 Trans Am....... You BETTER restore that mutha funka back to original. There are some rides that need to be preserved.

[@squidusn71]

Depends if that 69 trans am have all the original parts left in it. If it's just a shell, by all means cut away and stuff a modern drivetrain and suspension.

[@dariusdavis9179]

I've been watching this Chanel for so long and I haven't disliked any of the episodes this would have to be my favorite Chanel on KZbin because I can watch and love watching, and also learn a lot

[@bakfixx]

A 427 crate motor would be nice....

[@Whiplash1937]

no doubt some of the best videos out there!!!! one thing I would love to see,as an industrial supply sales rep for 15 yrs.i always am quick to observe the final details on most things.i wish u guys would use all domestic grade 8 fasteners on all assemblies.just a suggestion,keep up the great work.ya’ll keep me entertained on 12 hr shifts in South Korea,thank u and God bless ur channel👍

[@Pendaws]

I remember the Camaro this vintage when New. Love the work you fellas do. :)

[@pat34lee]

I love this car, even before all the upgrades. But now, it's a perfect cruiser.

[@timothybranham2487]

The car is coming together very well guys keep doing what y'all do

[@monsterq6]

That subframe is seriously so cool

[@oscartinoco3707]

Wheels made it pop out nice 🙌

[@samsamramos3819]

Ist time watching you guys kept my attention very hard to do give you guys props

[@CarguyEd5150]

Heidt's suspension is a great company and I've been to their fall open house car show a few times and they have a impressive facility with some quality suspension products. Their subframes, rear suspension options, along with their independent rear suspension sets ups are works of art. This Camaro should handle great and that updated subframe is something I wanted to do on mine, but just couldn't swing. Rest Mods can be murder on the budget.

[@pablocespedes5880]

excellent video and very good parts used... I learn some stuff here! The wheels though, in my opinion, this Camaro needed something more retro looking!

[@Warrior_Resisting_Colonialism]

Man, that's some really nice modern, high tech going into her. I like that stuff. Whole lot better systems besides the wagon wheels, it retains the stock look.

[@ttownscott]

That car is going to be so great! Really like the engine concept. Not over the top which would be so easy to do.

[@MadSonStudios]

IT LOOKED GOOD AT FIRST NOW ITS BAD ASS GREAT JOB GUYS.....

[@kfoster3616]

I want this car.....great referbing guys! Enjoyed the video!

[@jlimbac0]

So how fast is that Seafoam graphic coming off if you all win? As soon as it's home for me. 🤣

[@0Heeroyuy01]

the forged hubcaps too,or at lest they are getting painted solid black to do way with the branding

[@sprintmademe]

Preferably before it leaves the studio.

[@baggerrider8073]

They want too much personal information just to enter. In these days of identity theft, I don’t want my name, address, birthdate and phone number floating around in the Ethernet.

[@justinemrich1701]

I would keep it on, I like Seafoam especially the intake spray I use it on my vehicles every other oil change.

[@squidusn71]

You didn't read the fine print...it says that in order for you to keep the vehicle, that stuff need to stay on as part of their advertisement.

[@ozahmed4523]

Tommy is so much fun to watch.

[@gkjensen7]

nice build, gotta love seafoam too; saved a couple of high mileage rides

[@kevinkurzweil1560]

Great video Cant wait to see more

[@psilocybe_reptiliensis]

you are like wizards. cheers from Brasil!

[@ozahmed4523]

Love powernation!

[@astrogen1960]

Why not add sub-frame connectors as well . . while you were at it?

[@thecman26]

I was thinking the same thing!

[@squidusn71]

All that nice suspension only to put that disappointing engine back in it.

[@tommyfrombama4834]

@@squidusn71 If they had put an LS in it, 90 percent of the comments would be crying about another LS. You can't please anyone anymore.

[@tommyfrombama4834]

Enter to win the car, and add some after you win it. Not that hard to do, and the rest is already in place.

[@Gearhead-en8dz]

@@tommyfrombama4834 Exactly!

[@randomcrap763]

Was watching an older episode of Muscle car and was wondering if it was just me or did Tommy have much better Chemistry with Rick then he does with Marc? Those episodes felt like 2 dudes building a car and having a blast doing it. This feels like 2 coworkers building a car to me, still fun to watch but not the same :) . Of course I've been known to be wrong before :)

[@randomcrap763]

rcandminilover yeah tommy has a good TV personality and is a hell of a fabricator. Marc doesn’t have as good a presence. Of course the master is and will always he Lou :)

[@sgtJOOSEcapeS]

Any kind of motor for me, I'm walkin' 😂...

[@brianbrusseau3233]

Never apply silicon or silicon/gasket before installing the crown and pinion gear set. You may disturb or smudge the silicon, necessitating touching up or redoing your work. Work systematically, in other words in an orderly manor.Great video, and keep up the good work.

[@Z-Bart]

No smoke shows with MY new Camaro. 🍺👍

[@big-edaniel5522]

Wow that’s a wonderful setup ... but I love the old school look but gonnna have new school ride comfort

[@lawrencecoffeyjr1300]

You guys are something else...I would work in this shop for minimum wage...)

[@73xlh]

Love this CAR!!

[@wilfredoriverajr8797]

Beautiful!!!

[@JorgejRodriguez23]

Would that set up work good on my 69 firebird with a ls3 superchared engine???.and may i say beautiful set up and ride....

[@JoeZelensky]

You should have went with a Flaming River quick ratio manual rack on that. Could have put in an IRS as well.

[@kalijasin]

That’s a nice Camaro.

[@bradstubbings9871]

Beautiful car, I would love to have it.

[@bhaveshyadav203]

could you share some tips to pass emission test ondiesel cars....

[@ditzydoo4378]

2:08 mark: Tommy asks, what's that firing order?? Mark, uh 1, 2, 6, 9, 4, 7 ,3. o_0 hmmm we've lost cylinders 5 and 8, but gained a 9th cylinder... >_

[@richardg9719]

Like the look. Would like the old parts. Will pay for shipping . Or road trip to will call them.

[@gopaldangar]

Nice car

[@toddclark332]

It's is beautiful job guys 69

[@jeremypike9153]

Would've made more sense to install the motor and transmission in the front crossmember assembly then install it as a complete unit to the chassis.

[@Warrior_Resisting_Colonialism]

Yeah, I was scratching my head on that one. That's how they took it out. I guess they were still waiting on the engine and wanted to get to work while waiting.

[@sprintmademe]

6 bolts and it is back out.

[@michaelbrown2507]

Maaaaaan, could you imagine Tommy as a shop instructor...OMFG

[@WBOS72]

Add frame connectors, toss the crap in the tube and get a Lube locker gasket. Why not clean the inner floor up before bolting those brackets in? Clean, prine and paint it first.

[@stephenfuller2119]

Tommy sounds just like my uncle in Travelers Rest.

[@409novaman]

Every time I watch TV hotrod shows they build $140,000 cars in an industrial building, with a lift. IDEA: rent a 2 car garage and lay on the floor like the rest of us and show how it's done at home, on a tight budget.

[@WinnfieldCustoms]

good lookin car, shop , parts. $$$$$$

[@OriginalMomo]

Go is NOT as important as WHOA!!! 🤦🏼‍♂️🤦🏼‍♂️🤦🏼‍♂️

[@ronnieboucherthecrystalcraftsm]

yes sir = i always do brakes , suspension , steering - then go faster bits !

[@kumaquattro-le1vk]

Can't believe they are using Grade 5 hardware !!

[@aintskairtolskol9520]

first car was a grand dad ride.love my 69 no doubt,would be great to see some one rebuild a original,you know they weren't that bad in the day guys,just took a driver to handle um on friday nights hahah.i know you have sponsers to make happy but a original restore would be great . buy the way the chicks dug them 69's best lol

[@DJLuDog3]

Looking damn good now if only they made improvements parts for older trucks

[@MetrologyEngineer]

Sick

[@simplyfred8044]

You ever notice these guys flap their arms like sea gulls when they talk. Lol.

[@robertelee6712]

Maybe I should try it because I wish my 69 looked like theirs.

[@blakebusbee5881]

LOL LOL ( It'll all fall out from under you LOL HE AINT LIENG )

[@musashinagatsubo9574]

1,2,6,9,4,7,3... LOL.

[@GlennLaycock]

I am waiting for some reason to see the Regal finished - they just had to put it all together.

[@weebi4204]

it would be cool to see if you could turbo a volvo b230 redblock and take out crazy hp numbers

[@ivanmitchell3876]

lol!!🌚luv this show 4 years...👍

[@josephandreuccetti7270]

This should be a square setup for better handling Staggered is more for looks or to create more understeer or for mid engine cars

[@nathandean1687]

love to see them work on a steam turbined engine.

[@baronvonfrankenstein6295]

Shoulda put an all aluminum 427 with fi in that Camaro. That would have kept me tuned in.

[@ChaosAttractor13]

Do they have this complete series on KZbin?

[@GearheadRob319]

sbc powered 69 camaro.. sweet.

[@gniavan]

Can you put the link to Heidst front and rear suspension kits

[@williammorales5774]

Awesome

[@EdwardTilley]

I notice you didn't use or want air suspension. Is there a major price, performance, or weight difference when you go to air?

[@coreybenson3122]

Like like Pat lost some weight!

[@thecman26]

It's great to see that they have 2000 watt 6 bye 9's in the back deck with high power speaker cables! Yeah!

[@gunzillagunzilla7975]

Anyone know the Wheel/Tire Backspace/Offset? 20s are a bit much for me, but a set of 18s would like darn nice. Thanks in advance.

[@2005StangMan]

When you're doing a project this extensive, you really should weld those supports in rather than just bolting them. Save that for the car that's already done and just adding them after.

[@adamtheninjasmith2985]

I definitely would. Unless of course you're planning on being able to return everything back to stock. Some people like to have that option

[@brucegoolsbyjr8954]

Why didn’t you guys add subframe connectors ?

[@nigelherbert3356]

Never seen a drift Camaro till now

[@workingclassbear6523]

Look at us it only takes 4 hrs to completely restore a classic car with unlimited money.....😂😂 Beautiful car though!

[@coreyhodson3258]

Is there a company that makes these Sub Frame Kits for a 1970 Cuda ?

[@John-Laird]

It's crazy to think that one of us is going to own that car.

[@claudiofernandez1693]

Where I can get the kit for the same camaro, can you s3nd me a link thank you

[@dam1041960]

What about primer for the holes?

[@sebastianolantieri1151]

Spettacolare

[@rudeboy9271]

What size set up on the tires? height width depth?

[@f-locgaming7378]

Is it possible to make 1000hp with a 383 SBC with a stock block?

[@stevegunderson2392]

I would have used grade 8 nuts, bolts and washers on the rear suspension.

[@chennemeyer]

Great episode, but surprised they are using those cheap low strength bolts grade 5 when grade 8 are so common and much better quality.

[@yabasta13]

That car looks like his name should be Slickback

[@MDdred]

So are these new shows?

[@johnnysuede3156]

Powernation, you guys should do an engine build off against Gas Monkey Garage.

[@fw1421]

The one thing about shows like this that I hate is they show all these neat parts and what they can do for your project car but never list the parts and the MSRP cost.

[@thebigpicture2032]

That’s because they’re stupid expensive. Probably bolted on 30k worth of parts.

[@robertelee6712]

THE front subframe delivered to my doorstep was $6,000. The brake setup is close to $2,000. The wheels and tires are $4,000. That's all my car has in common with this car. I have the LS 6.2 t56 in mine that I built myself. I haven't set down and added it up but it's around 20K.

[@tommyfrombama4834]

Google it. Everyone has a different budget in mind, these builds provide examples of things that are available and what's involved. Everyone may not have the funds to use these exact parts, but could use some ingenuity and creativeness to accomplish something similar without all the fancy, expensive bolt ons. This shouldn't be looked at as some sort of recipe to build a car piece by piece, IMO. It should be seen as an example of things that are available if you have the money, but also showing you areas that you can modernize as your budget allows to bring an older car to more modern standards. I hope that makes sense, not always the best at putting my thoughts into words.

[@fw1421]

Tommy from Bama what I commented on is how much these things cost,not people’s individual budget. The people that make these videos throw all these parts on their projects without commenting on cost,it would be nice to know what this all costs.

[@tommyfrombama4834]

@@fw1421 I knew what you meant. I just feel like that may be the reason why they don't put prices on everything, but that's just my opinion. Who knows? I'm the sub frames, brakes, and suspension on this build were quite expensive. If I were planning a similar build, I would look around for my best price on the parts or see what similar parts from other companies may cost.

[@brunobalestra]

Man, I missed Tommy!

[@chriseudy4684]

Dad told me it's a unibody so all the front end work is going to be smart

[@georgegrierson]

I can't even sign up for this contest cuz I live in Canada... And I use Seafoam in everything I drive. Not fair!

[@bmstylee]

Yes. But life is sometimes not fair.

[@georgegrierson]

@@bmstylee there are other advantages to living in Canada that I should focus on.

[@ronhellengreen4799]

Is that a 302 with the intake painted?

[@mcfuller5020]

I would had kept the stock wheels since they are so much in defining a Camaro.

[@richardturk7162]

Does that guy need to have so many pens in his pocket?

[@robertfast5961]

Giving Away!? I want in!

[@jaybailey8044]

Seafoam has great products, you need to try Seafoam for lots better running engine.

[@jaybailey8044]

does anyone know who won the drawing for the 1969 Sea Foam Camaro?

[@BigUnitBeef]

She's a sweetheart

[@rrz464]

$6200 subframe replacement. Damn that's pretty. Little out of the budget for my build, lol.

[@Warrior_Resisting_Colonialism]

Wow they're that much uh? I was thinking probably a couple grand when they showed and explained it. Man was I off. Yeah, I'd be rolling stock too then haha.

[@otsenres1636]

More than my last complete build of a car...lol

[@rrz464]

@@Warrior_Resisting_Colonialism there are quite a few things one can do to the stock subframe to make it work really well, like the ride tech tru turn or rack and pinion, upgraded steering boxes, tubular control arms (tho they weigh more) and you can always put a bigger sway bar

[@kylehicks8097]

As a school bus driver, I'd rather drive the Camaro in the condition it was in lol