Taking Too Much

The plaintiff used to be close friends with the defendant. She loaned the defendant money several times, equaling about $10,000, but the defendant has only given her $25, so she’s suing. The defendant thinks the plaintiff is just jealous because she got married and hasn’t spent as much time with her. She doesn’t think she owes the plaintiff anything.
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[@susanstribe4914]

We call it dry begging. The defendant may not have said “I need cash” but she made sure to dump her problems on the plaintiff hinting for help. Shame on her!

[@babygroot81]

Girl that dry begging is thee WORST!!!

[@trekgirl65]

Defendant had used all her parents; family members money and she went begging elsewhere and pissed that the Plaintiff wants to be paid back. Money train stopped.

[@serenalampkin8241]

Beware of that dry begging!🫣😩

[@lindaburger2695]

Judge Mathis uses that term all the time.

[@jeanettecox3911]

I know people like the defendant. I hate answering my phone because of their dry begging

[@jazmine.leigh227]

100% was taking advantage of her kindness. She “never asked” but I bet she always just so happen to bring up poor me in conversations.

[@traceyaz125]

Exactly. She couldn’t know she needed it unless she told her. If she wasn’t fishing for “gifts” she would keep her personal finances private.

[@JamieM470]

Yes, and when the money tree dried up the defendant ghosted her. Grifters like that have no conscience.

[@LawsonPatterson]

💯

[@LawsonPatterson]

Anyone that could make those kinds of comments to someone who helped and gave you so much, really speaks volumes as to who they are.

[@granitemoss1451]

She made a big show of saying ' She never put money in my hands' over and over.

[@mandytoofinep8428]

The defendant think she’s slick. 😤 the Plaintiff is way toooo nice

[@shannysunshine8389]

Defendant is a scammer mooch loser.

[@bane2429]

Well being slick is not a Crime, people need to let Grown People Figure out a way, maybe one time but to keep doing it your a fool n it's Sad but not a lawsuit

[@BobBlumenfeld]

Defendant: "I never asked her for money." But I'd bet she always made sure the plaintiff knew she needed money. "Never asked" is the subterfuge and sometimes the rationalization of the professional taker.

[@trekgirl65]

When you go to a person and tell them your money issues, it is asking for money. Sad the defendant is a professional money leech. Used her family and going to friends. Sad.

[@MC-qo3sj]

It's called dry begging. That's when you tell a nice person who you know will help you your situation, but you don't ask for anything, if they offer you accept and promise to pay back.

[@BobBlumenfeld]

@@MC-qo3sj Thanks. I'm not surprised that it has a name.

[@SRT_DRE]

“I would…. But I can’t afford it….”

[@shannysunshine8389]

It’s obvious the defendant is a pathetic MOOCH scammer.

[@luteydog]

When 2 adults together don’t have a bank account between them, I don’t need to ask if they owe someone money

[@marleonetti7]

or they were on government financial assistance and they would lose that free govt money if they had a bank account , so they hid the cash they had elsewhere .

[@atrocchia]

They could have bought money orders.

[@user-xg7cw8ny9y]

people that borrow money always come up with an excuse to end the relationship to get out of paying! defendant is a lying user 😡 where’s the husband?

[@aussiemouth747]

Then they say the person is stalking and harassing them .🤔🙄

[@florcanela49]

The husband couldn't show his face!

[@aprilpinketon2567]

They’re scummy

[@bobbylibertini]

Funny thing too about borrowers: They can never afford to pay their monthly expenses...but yet somehow we're supposed to believe that if they borrow from us, next month they'll somehow be able to pay their bills, PLUS pay us back? How does that work? (It doesn't!). I grew up very poor with a single welfare mother. My mother never borrowed a dime from anyone..we'd just live within our means...and it was actually GREAT! These people today have a lot more than we ever did..and yet they always need to borrow and are never happy.

[@laurielester9437]

Just to try to keep the money. It's disgusting.

[@shebasanon4936]

They did her dirty… You reap what you sowe

[@ogbenavides8364]

💯 defendant is 🗑

[@annetedder8202]

Exactly. The defendant is the real loser.

[@monaleataknowles3267]

She most definitely will. That's why sometimes you have to leave people in the gutter that they are in. You never know what dirty low down things they have done in their life to good people.

[@L.W..]

I personally think the defendant intentionally mentions she was in financial distress at the right time when her friend was present, because how would she know all your business like that?

[@trekgirl65]

Telling her friend all the money issues to leech the money and got pissed when the friend says it is time to pay back. Defendant is the perfect example of the money leech.

[@dawniipoo322]

She was dry begging

[@annetedder8202]

The defendant and husband are teaching their children to use people. Sad.

[@citytrees1752]

They seem like real users and people to avoid at all costs.

[@cynthiacler9284]

My folks taught me to never loan money unless you can afford to loose it. Their advice has stayed with me till this day.

[@peryole]

I learned my lesson with my own sister. She owed me 1,000, got a large settlement and ignored my calls. I had a massive stroke and had to have brain surgery and could no longer work, so it was a kick in the balls, she knew i was living off of savings after leaving the hospital. My disability insurance finally kicked in and her settlement money was long gone, she had the nerve to call and ask to borrow money. I told her we'd never speak of the $1,000 again, but never ask me for another penny because the answer is no, she then started getting my nieces to ask for money or even ask to borrow money, I told them I don't lend money because I'm not a bank.

[@cynthiacler9284]

@@peryole That's the worst when it's your family that does that to you and then getting her kids evolved is the icing on the cake. Unfortunately we can't choose our family members but we can separate ourselves from them if their toxic to us. 😔

[@atrocchia]

That is correct, because you will never see it.

[@brittney5775]

Some people, I know it’s hard to believe, keep the SAME EXACT pen for years. *gasp* Same notebook for years. *double gasp*

[@elvickRULES]

Impossible!

[@thelmadickinson6811]

My husband keeps a journal, one notebook at a time. And uses the same pen to write in them. It’s not uncommon for some personality types.

[@Rae_lee87]

Do pens even last that long?

[@nyxium09]

@@Rae_lee87 I’ve been buying the same pen for years. Pentel R.S.V.P Ballpoints

[@RamirezRamon-yq6ze]

​@Rae_lee87 no you buy the refills at any Walgreens or local CVS

[@serenalampkin8241]

When the well runs dry…, you’ll know ur true friends!😩

[@positiveopinion4594]

solid word

[@broeheemed32]

Two able-bodied adults who can own a rental home, but have no bank account and can't pay their own bills? Users.

[@clwilson7318]

That right there!

[@pamelahooper-tr7si]

I disagree. Me and my exhusband had so many money problems. Life didn't get better until we got divorced. And I got full custody of kids and I haven't received child support yet.

[@broeheemed32]

@@pamelahooper-tr7si ...and hopefully you won't get any. You're no more of a parent than he is, and you're willing to psychologically damage your children by denying them their father. It's too bad that biased courts still subscribe to the fantasy "Woman: parent, father: ATM". Let's see how badly you still want to be "hero single mother" when you have to pay for everything.

[@kimricautumn6918]

If you have bad credit or no credit you can't get a bank account these days. Look up "unbanked" stats in the US. Credit scores are the bane of American society.

[@broeheemed32]

@@pamelahooper-tr7si Hopefully you'll never see a nickel of child extortion.... you'd just spend it on yourself.

[@bestrong8543]

Prime example of being to nice can cost you financially be mindful on who you loan money to,so many leaches in this world

[@qw9335]

i’ve noticed judge milian is always skeptical of hand written records that are all in the same ink. she doesn’t even entertain the possibility of people who keep a pen and paper together consistently. not a valid way to tell if something legit or not.

[@ANGELSURS]

It's all theatrics

[@islandyyt]

I use the exact same pen all the time for making quick notes. I keep it in a kitchen drawer. In fact, I’ve had this pen for 5 or 6 years and I’m not kidding.

[@elvickRULES]

Yeah idk wtf that was about. My husband favors a particular pen. They last years usually. And you can keep a pen with the papers.

[@hijabibeautiful]

I have a notebook that I slide the same pen into the spiral wire every time. Had it for going on 3 years and will replace it with another blue pen because it looks neater instead of using a different color pen.

[@katem3667]

Same here! I had to keep a log for medical reports I transcribed for a number of years, and would buy in bulk the pen I liked because of how it felt writing and how it looked (crisp). I did this for YEARS until I retired.

[@jjones5345]

I only write in blue ink Bic Round Stic pens. Since high school. The judge has done this before and it is so silly.

[@hijabibeautiful]

@@katem3667 yes lol when I find a pen I like I buy packs at a time. The judge is way off on this one

[@arielprivott844]

They were looking to break into your home ma’am. I know that’s hard to come to grips with but dont be silly.

[@ashleighhhhhhhh]

I thought she had text proof that they owed her at least 6000 ... that should have been enough to award the 5k you'd think?

[@adwallace021938]

That's what I thought. The plaintiff said she had a text where the defendant (husband) admitted owing her $6000. Then, she handed the texts to the judge, but the judge only read that one text where the defendant (wife) was saying really mean things to the plaintiff. The judge didn't seem to even read or acknowledge the text where they supposedly admitted to owing that money. 🤷‍♀️

[@ANGELSURS]

Judge has the opportunity to view all evidence prior to the show airing.

[@redapol5678]

Because it’s just typing on a paper, which can be manipulated. The actual physical texts in the phone are non-existent. The judge may not have accepted that as enough evidence for a $6000 judgment

[@clwilson7318]

The show is edited. The judge likely read the texts and disregarded them for some reason.

[@Julie-sl8ul]

I only use black ink. Usually Bic pens. So judges need to get off that 🙄

[@J_WheelerDoll30]

I have 7 yr old gel paper mate pens. I use them for special notes

[@aussiemouth747]

As soon as people say they don't have a bank account I'm suspicious.

[@citytrees1752]

The defendant is so creepy and shady in so many ways.

[@rwill188]

I write in the same color ink all the time. Using the same brand of ink pen. I don't know why the judge finds that so strange. Some of us are just creatures of habit 😂

[@slmel7]

Bad Ruling! Plaintiff had text messages proving they owed $6,000. A toddler would have made a better judgment.

[@bjvu9460]

thats not how the law works. Maybe you should get educated on the law before making dumb snide comments when you are ignorant to it. Anyone can formulate text on a piece of paper and pretend its text. If she was paying their bills, it was easy to get credit card statements and what not but as you stated, a toddler would have been smarter and more intelligent that YOU. She is upset because they cut her loose. Imagine someone borrowing money over the period of several years and never making a payment towards the debt that it ballooned to over ten thousand and the only time it became a problem was after they stop hanging out with the person. She need a dog , a man, a single chick in her life so she can pamper

[@Eros4tw]

Saying stuff like "I never asked for money...", but then eagerly accepting it when its offered every time - makes you come off just as bad, if not worse, than a beggar. Because the fact is, the person offering you money would not be offering you the money - unless you had been telling them your sob story. And the fact is, you are telling this person your sob story BECAUSE you want them to offer to help. You might not say that part out loud, but its 100% true. This Defendant clearly used the Plaintiff for her own benefit, and it really is sad how the Plaintiffs kindness in thinking she was helping someone she considered a friend, did not feel the same way back towards her. But still took EVERY dollar she offered.

[@altovisemiller9900]

The plaintiff let her emotions take over. That's probably why she forgot her evidence. Those tears didn’t faze the defendant at all.

[@mzmelindapeacelove3447]

Oh Doug…”Like you said, you were an idiot…sorry about that (sympathetic voice😂”. I think even if I won my case I wouldn’t interview in the hallway!😮

[@rubylimey7614]

Doug was SO wrong for that

[@beeveemcgowan]

😂😂😂😂

[@hereandnow8578]

ROFL

[@krystalericalewis]

😂😂😂😂 Love Doug

[@mikesteele05]

Pretty sure they’re contracted to complete the post-verdict interview. My guess is the show can withhold the appearance fee if the participants don’t comply with the full production schedule.

[@cynthiaprice3528]

To have 4 years of documentation all in the same color ink is not at all unusual. I have a favorite pen that I use all the time and have had it for years. It’s what I grab when I write in my notebook. You could clearly see that the plaintiff kept a ledger and it was an extensive one. I don’t know why she bothered to bring such a high priced case to a television judge. She should have known Milian was going to save the show money. They nickel and dime the litigants 😂

[@jeanm9521]

My mother used the same pen too and kept it with her notepad with everything in it. I do the same thing.

[@misswinter3361]

I buy packs of pens that are the same color. They last for years.

[@cheyanne8335]

Yeah I don’t get why she brings that up. You can get packs of the same pen.

[@raeneal3825]

I agree. I will buy a 5 pack of pens & use 1 per "area". 1 in the kitchen, 1 in my bathroom (never know what info you'll need while getting dolled up, etc), 1 in my purse, 1 in my entertainment room & 1 in my catch all drawer just in case! Crazy? Yes! You can see the different ways she wrote everything. JM is a little ridiculous at times.

[@MrSmart1]

I agree the same

[@Zera223]

So does anybody else think that the defendant and her fiancé were trying to rob her while she was in the hospital? Seems suspicious to me that they were snooping around her house and then got angry with her when she came home. Then they gave her the most bullshittiest reason. We really wanted you to mediate an argument so we calmed down enough to come to your house together we needed you and you lied about being in the hospital even though we couldn't possibly know that 😂

[@Bebedollie]

The defendant smirking is creepy

[@joesnelson8287]

Sociopath

[@BobBlumenfeld]

Plaintiff: (2:15) "Basically, I was paying all their bills." Judge Milian: "But why were you doing that?" Plaintiff: "Because I'm an idiot." Saved the judge the time of telling her that. Usually, the answer is "Because I have a big heart," or something similar.

[@KritTeekDeZigns]

Because I'm an idiot summed it all up.

[@brookiegremlin6660]

this case is so weird. I wonder if maybe these people were swingers or something? They're so enmeshed!!!

[@elvickRULES]

Good sign that she learned her lesson

[@sheraps9763]

@@brookiegremlin6660omg I was saying that like was they all intimate because why would she do that?

[@Bravo78631]

Same ink comment lol I’ve had the same space pen for over 10 yrs now

[@lisa916panther5]

" I never asked her for a dime" but you sure did take it. I'm pretty sure there was no gun to your head to.

[@suzannecrum9702]

For the defendant-what comes around goes around.She will fall on hard times and no one will be there to catch her!

[@latricebrown7942]

The Defendant admitted to owing at least $1200 yet the Plaintiff was only awarded $1000.... No good deed goes unpunished SMH

[@front331]

​@@madmemadhouseme4885She had no way of proving anything. She just came to court to cry and have people sympathize with her.

[@GirlsNDragons]

Why did everyone miss the part where she said “he made 3 payments, twice $50 and once $100..” that means she’s left with $1000

[@mandytoofinep8428]

They was using that lady like crazy Smfh.

[@Lillylilster]

Sounds like they were manipulating the Plaintiff.

[@jennifer_mertens]

It's clear the Plaintiff is actually(sadly), very hurt by the Defendant's deception. Anyone that says, "I never asked for the money/She never put the money in MY hand" sounds like a complete con-artist.

[@brisigonzalez3718]

She gets 1k but also now everyone knows how this lady and her husband really are.

[@scotthewitt258]

Again with the "same ink" thing. We're not all rich retired judges. Some of us don't use a pen one time and throw it away. My Glucose monitoring started 1 May 2023. I have used the EXACT SAME PEN from that first finger stick record to today. And have written a lot of stuff besides that.

[@MichaelJones-yx4zv]

4 years you know where the exact same pen is not even losing ink... Definitely a lie lol

[@brittney5775]

I didn’t get that part either. I personally prefer using different colors of ink from pink to green, but that’s just me. Some people really do use the same pen for years and simply replace the ink; same color. JM doesn’t think outside the box.

[@luispineda9255]

I buy dozens of the same colored in pens...that's just ridiculous to think people write in all kinds of inked colored pens..come on judge.

[@MichaelJones-yx4zv]

@@luispineda9255 it makes more sense that someone would just write that and say it's from 4 years of note keeping yet has no other evidence

[@elvickRULES]

@@MichaelJones-yx4zvwe have pens from 10+ years that still work because we don’t write a ton every day. And if it’s a ledger then she could’ve kept the pen with that for that purpose. If she made it up why would she have deductions, why wouldn’t it be neater?

[@TooLooze]

Plaintiff needs therapy to appreciate herself as a person.In the end, it is better to look back on life having done too much than too little.

[@12Daze]

[As she's crying coming out of the courtroom] ... my man Doug says: "as you said in the beginning... you were an idiot" 🤣🤣🤣

[@colettedjior8441]

😂😂😂

[@Lanie-sl9ne]

I wonder if the plaintiff knew that most family members don't pay back if she'd continue to pay?

[@66sinead]

Neither a borrower nor a lender be. When friends need a hand, I have learned to consider it as gifts. If they pay it back, awesome! If they don't I know not to give more, but dont sweat the amount given. I have had to many friendships blown over lending to friends.

[@lbu9542]

This is exactly what I do now as well 💯

[@user-bx2bc7nu3v]

Defendant is a leach. Wonder who they leach off of now?

[@Ryan-pm4fk]

Defendant is a wily,sly woman ,especially if you lavish praise on someone your'e no longer in good books with.It's a tactic to make yourself look truthful and honest and always done only in public.

[@theescapists6794]

Plaintiff got taken advantage of, plain and simple. Defendant and her husband are leeches.

[@daisymaefrench4041]

Don't loan money. When you want to be repaid, you make an enemy. Also, never cosign for anyone. No good deed goes unpunished.

[@beautifulllb9493]

The plaintiff is crazy and the defendants used her. Both sides deserve each other

[@DJMookieJukebox]

Can’t stand a person Crying with NO Tears!!🥲😤

[@links89a]

Advice my dad game me many years ago. Never give a loan, especially to family. Maybe a gift, but remember that once the money stops flowing to that person, they view of you will change for the worse.

[@trekgirl65]

This was a friend, the defendant leeched her family.

[@82windows82]

She never asked for money, but how did the plaintiff always know when she needed it?

[@annereidy7981]

I wonder how they are doing without her money?

[@oldageisdumb]

I’m sure they found someone else

[@KeyyJenae]

Sad case, but when Doug called the lady an idiot at the end 😂😂

[@laquirriapretty6091]

I was trying to find the tears on her face the entire time . I don’t know who to really believe 🤦🏾‍♀️

[@nekajones595]

They used this lady! Flat OUT return her money! They were not this lady friends. She didn't gift them 10K.

[@mashondaknight9132]

I hate when people say they didn't ask for the money. Or you can't buy my love, but you have no problem. Taking and accepting and letting them know You needed money, so please stop it. Pay the the ex and stop taking money from people,get a job and Stop begging. The ex husband should not be living off a woman its his family he shouldn't be living off or asking a woman for money its his family and he should be taking care of his family.

[@jennifernordhoff6478]

No she wasn’t. They took advantage of her. Period.

[@trekgirl65]

And the ex is a leech like the defendant.

[@msfoster2468]

“Like you said in the beginning, you were an idiot” ~~Doug Lol

[@kats5866]

But how do you come to court without any proof and expect to get money back?

[@oldageisdumb]

How do grown ass adults not have bank accounts

[@hijabibeautiful]

I’m grateful to have never had a friend abuse my kindness like that. I only have 2 people I’d consider friends and they’ve only ever asked for $20-$40 bucks once in a while and I never ask for it back. We do that for each other

[@redapol5678]

“I never _asked_ her for any money” “She never _gave_ me any _cash_ “ … yeah, ok, I see where this ridiculous defence is going 😒 🤦‍♂️

[@SaturnaliaJones]

Defendant repeated the question when asked "were you just using the her". She totally used her.

[@calblue6147]

Lending money to a freeloading friend with nothing in writing. Comes to court with no evidence. She's lucky she even got the $1000.

[@Derriayers]

Agreed, but she should have gotten $1200 because the defendant admitted to that.

[@soapydesigner]

Two types of people: givers and takers. Nuff said.

[@MaureenMikalsen-mx8cn]

There are takers in this world and there are givers.this woman and her husband took advantage grossly the plantif.

[@Amy-ej2px]

OMFG, Doug is out of control. "As you said in the beginning, you were an idiot." 😩 🤣

[@carlosdimas313]

Defendant looks evil 😈

[@NubianP6]

The words *”I got you darlin’”* don’t just come out of someone’s mouth unless it is in response to either a request, or dry-begging. The ONLY reason the defendant called the plaintiff to go with her to have her dog put to sleep is because she KNEW she would pay for it. GROWN PEOPLE are supposed to be responsible for their OWN bills, and in all honesty, I don’t know what kind of woman” or “man would ever feel comfortable with someone else financing their lives. They should be ashamed.

[@bobbylibertini]

"It's all in the same ink". Yeah, umm many of us find a pen we like and use that exclusively; the more so today, when it's getting hard to find pens that write worth a darn. I used a Papermate Lubriglide for c.20 years, until it was no longer possible to get refills for it. Now I use a Pentel pen that I modified to take Pilot G2 refills...I have 3 of those pens on my desk; one in each of my vehicles; one in my checkbook.... (But it would appear that the judgette made the right decision here, based on the plaintiff having no evidence).

[@feliciagallo9832]

Yeah, the Judge always gets stuck on that.

[@JessT-vg7ib]

Moral of the story: 'take full advantage of generous people until they learn not to be.'

[@franklesser5655]

This seems like a totally normal friendship.

[@Van-hb2lk]

3 minutes in and already with the crocodile tears lol.

[@pytube777]

The plaintiff bought the defendant’s friendship. She believed she would pay her back? She also believes in Santa Claus.

[@_theonlyme_]

Kindness doesn't pay😢

[@socorromedrano7399]

Does she really, really, really, expect to be paid back? 😮😮😮

[@brandylashay6012]

How the heck you come to court with no receipts or evidence. She could have at least made the paper look a little crinkled and added different color ink. I hope she learned.

[@lolamaude3449]

Yes, 10K and nothing in writing about paying anything back.

[@tamekadavis6641]

Don't loan or give people money.

[@moniqueengleman873]

Unless you just give it away. I came into some money, and the only person who wanted a cut from my traffic accident was my millionaire brother. I survive of of Social Security

[@LatriciaJohnson]

When people repeat the question asked they probably gonna lie.

[@Manihsi]

"Dough has no problem flirting with the defendant."

[@fatimacardosa646]

That's what happpens when your to nice people take advantage 🤔🤔🤔🤔

[@shannysunshine8389]

Coupon book? It’s called receipts ffs 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@kyleensixtysix]

Two rules about loaning money. 1- can you afford it? Like do you have the cash and don't have to borrow it yourself, and 2- can you afford to never see the money again? Because there's a better than average chance you won't. And sure, I've leant money to others before and probably will again. But I follow the two above guidelines.

[@giovannifunaro5408]

And this is the judge who says to use a crayon and toilet paper.

[@P3rmissionD3ni3d]

Dry begging. She def took advantage. Shame.

[@heatherbaker8596]

Once you lend money to a friend or family they are no longer considered friend's or family they are debtors.

[@marskeins]

I know as soon as folks come in saying they never as such and such for money they gonna lose. Yeah you didn't ask but you sure accepted it fast asf. They used her!!

[@Samirah313]

When you’re nice enough to loan someone money, you’re always the bad person when you want it back.

[@prettybossy510]

She couldn't keep up financially either...

[@Everykneebows]

Doug is very handsy…I wouldn’t trust him with my kids😮

[@shannysunshine8389]

Don’t lend money unless they have collateral. If they don’t pay SELL what they gave you as collateral! No collateral no money loan.

[@brittneyjake2010]

U S E R I have a friend just like that 😢

[@laurielester9437]

Girl, you definitely don't need friends like that. Trying any excuse to not pay you back. To hell with em.

[@EduardoGonzalez-qm2uk]

She has something with “Frankie” She almost said, I still love him but she caught herself!

[@ninosimone]

People’s court love using the word “ Louse” 😂😂😂

[@alanolson6913]

Something my Dad taught me about money : you don’t have friends when it comes to money. If you have it , can afford to help, give it to them, don’t loan it. Just figure you won’t get it back. Also, why aren’t the defendants employed? What did they do for money before this woman came into their lives? Sucker someone else before her? They need to grow the heck up and handle life themselves.

[@citytrees1752]

they are professional grifters

[@lauraleecreasy5049]

If the plaintiff expected the defendat to pay back all the money she gave them, why didn't she make them sign a note each time? I also can't fathom the defendant's not having a bank account! How do they function??

[@citytrees1752]

the grift and con

[@lifebyre6144]

Why did he say her last name like that in the intro 😂

[@arnoldalvarado9191]

How do people not know when they are being used😮

[@Goose00123]

Another plaintiff crying w/o tears

[@shannysunshine8389]

Not to mediate an argument! They wanted something from HER. Obviously money is what they wanted.