Tal'Dorei Subclass Tier Rankings (Part 2) - D&D 5e

[@anastasiyaivanova4665]

I feel like the 17 lvl monk feature is more oriented towards setting the creature up for a big hit from a teammate instead of increasing your personal damage.

[@MrDavidKord]

Yeah, make it vulnerable to radiant damage is nasty for setting up your Paladin.

[@jothrax4673]

Yeah that is clearly the design intent. I'm kinda surprised they viewed setting up your teammate as the secondary feature here. There are so few teamwork abilities in D&D and this is a really nice one at a level where your party members can absolutely capitalize on it.

[@IMXLegedaryBard]

I looked at it similarly to the Grave Cleric Channel divinity, to set it up for your big hitters next attack. Granted, it being 17th level is pretty high

[@jothrax4673]

@@IMXLegedaryBard The tradeoff is it's 3 Ki (that's nothing to a lv 17 monk), you can just do it as part of an attack, and you can more reliability set up a specific move vs Path to the Grave which is an action, Channel Divinity, and could get wasted on a weak attack unless you try to release it as a reaction. I do agree 17th level is really high. Maybe it'd be better at level 11.

[@IMXLegedaryBard]

@jothrax4673 yeah I'm not saying the cost of it is bad, I like this ability a lot. It's just, as you pointed out also, it's still 17th level. I (for once in my life!!!!) Just finished a campaign, and we hit 11th level. So it's a great ability, it's just a high one that the player playing may not see

[@inkblot6626]

I think a Runechild Warforged is a really cool concept. A Warforged animated by runic magic and has become a living arcane battery

[@jacobmcquinn4364]

That's actually a concept I've had for a while with my warforged sorlock

[@nickschile4807]

A note regarding the Open Sea's Channel Divinity: "You and each creature within 5 feet of you instead treat the area as lightly obscured." It's not that the area around the paladin is lightly obscured, it's that anyone within 5 feet of them TREATS the whole fog as lightly obscured, allowing them to target through the fog, but not be targeted themselves. They would still have disadvantage on Perception checks, but a wizard, rogue, or ranger standing right next to the paladin would be able to target enemies without issue, even so far as having advantage since they can't be seen. Much more effective then what was described. EDIT: Monty later saying "The version of this that you want is 'You can see in the mist, but your enemies can't'" makes this even better!

[@natang.delyra9583]

I just made a similar comment about that! I hope they see ours comments.

[@mike27011]

I agree, I'm playing the subclass in a campaign at the moment and my DM rules it exactly this way. It is really powerful and fun. However, it does have an interesting quirk in that you can end up with the party all bunched together to get the benefit making them susceptible to some AOE affects. I like this though as it means you have to think a bit tactically about when you make use of it.

[@nickschile4807]

@@mike27011 Very true. This would pair really well with someone with blindsight who could move around the fog, or if an enemy mage is within 60 feet, someone with Counterspell, since they could not be Countersplled back.

[@ciaranodowd5723]

Also it's basically Darkness + Devilsight if you play with a 10ft reach weapon. They can't see you at 10ft away but you can see them, so easy advantage.

[@Henenu]

Aaand since the vision inside the fog appiles to all creatures and not friendlies only, it means this paladin kinda should try and keep enemies at a distance, synergising really well with PAM+Sentinel combo. There's enough cheese (Monthy's terms 😂) with this Oath.

[@ahitheotter]

See, the Oath of the Open Sea Paladin has always been a personal favorite of mine. The idea of a gentleman pirate is just so fun! The community seems split between it being almost broken and being absolute trash. I'm glad you guys showed it some love!

[@malachisullivan4089]

Also my favorite!

[@captainkiwi77]

If opinions are split between broken and trash, sounds balanced to me

[@ShadestheMothman]

@@captainkiwi77that is a good way to figure out balance

[@thomaswhite3059]

Not to be a Golden Mean guy but I doubt it's broken or trash. Even if it is Trash, 5e is super easy and basically anything you build at least half-way competently will be at the very least fun. I've only ever had one character actually die, and that was when I was being *way* too cocky with a wild magic halfling sorcerer at more or less the *front line* in a 2 player 1 DM one shot. He did take out a few horrible nightmare monsters before being BRUTALLY pecked to death.

[@richard_n]

Runechild is probably my favorite Sorcerer now. The subclass covers up so many of the negatives of the base class. I also love the flavor of the Open Seas Pally and Blood Mage.

[@talongreenlee7704]

I wish the monk’s 17th level ability gave you the option to spend additional ki points on stunning strike to make it paralyze a creature instead of stunning it. You get automatic crits which basically double your damage anyway, but it also gives you the benefits of stunning strike.

[@vladreyzard]

Maintaining the theme of the Blood Magic Wizard, I would love to see the subclasses of the Bloodhunter be ranked as well. Also the subclasses from Steinhardt's Guide to the Eldritch Hunt are pretty cool. And there is at least one subclass for each class.

[@sabinahau8644]

Yeaah! I want that too

[@Smeelio]

Came here to suggest Steinhardt's, ESPECIALLY because it has that dark fantasy flavour the Dudes are fond of, and if not blood magic then it certainly has BONE magic! Similar body horror vibes Would love to see them review the Jaeger Class as a whole, as well as the Subclasses for the base game Classes TBH

[@ShadestheMothman]

Doesn’t steinhardt’s guide have its own whole class to rank? That would be awesome

[@vladreyzard]

@@ShadestheMothman Indeed, but I do still want the Bloodhunter subclasses first 😅

[@ShadestheMothman]

@@vladreyzard are there subclasses for the blood hunter in Steinhardt’s!?

[@beccam3629]

Slight CR Spoiler: Interestingly, while you focused on the level 17 Cobalt Soul monk ability being used on your own bludgeoning damage, the times I've seen it used (in CR) was to set up the level 17+ wizard/casters for a big hit with different damage types.

[@natang.delyra9583]

Just a reminder about the Channel Divinity Ability of the Open Sea Paladin (17:40) that i felt the need for correction, the fog is not lightly obscured only in the paladin space and 5 ft space of them, but in reality, the paladin and every single creature within 5 feet count the entire fog area as lighty obscured instead of heavily obscured. So, in reality, thats a built in Darkness spell (more like a fog cloud) with Devil Sight kind of thing, that you can share with your allies! But if a enemy get to 5 feet of you, it also gets the benefits. If used correctly, you can have free advantage against your enemies with reach weapons like glaives or halberds, while not being able to be targered by a lot of spells. You could also use it and have a ranged character by your side having free advantage against enemies that can't see them. It's a really strong Channel Divinity ability, but it may be tricky to manage in the battlefield!

[@TheHandgunhero]

Paladins are always going to get within 5 feet of their foes, they're a melee martial character. Your allies don't want to be that close however and thus can't see who you're fighting and you're just hindering them. It's not that good.

[@natang.delyra9583]

@@TheHandgunhero Paladins could use reach weapons for the free advantage, but i do agree that is very difficult to manage the fog with spellcaster allies for example, as wizards and sorcerers probably dont want to be in the heat of the fight but instead far away from it. But again, is basically a pseudo devil sight darkness combo that do not use concentration. I just thought how that ability would work mounted on a steed from the Find Steed spell, and allies mounted with you on the steed, i guess i gotta see some other perspectives on that!

[@TheHandgunhero]

@natang.delyra9583 The ability doesn't work with reach weapons because you have to be within 5 feet of the target to see them, unless you're taking the blind fighting fighting style in which case it's a decent option (but still very janky).

[@natang.delyra9583]

@@TheHandgunhero Hmm, here's the ability: "As an action, you channel the sea to create a thick cloud of fog that surrounds you for 20 feet in all directions. The fog moves with you, remaining centered on you and making its area heavily obscured. You and each creature within 5 feet of you instead treat the area as lightly obscured.", for my reading the paladin and any creature within 5 feet of the paladin treat the fog as lightly obscured, wich means you (and any creature within 5 feet of you) can see in the area. But i and other folk that reads that way like Pack Tacticks and Treantmonk could be wrong, in that case, there's the need for the blinding fighting style, even though i'm confident about my reading. But it's ok, every table reads differently a lot of abilities, what makes dnd even more diverse and somewhat fun!

[@TheHandgunhero]

@natang.delyra9583 You would need the Blind Fighting fighting style to take advantage of a reach weapon to get advantage as an unseen attacker was my point. Otherwise at 10 feet you can't see one another and thus nobody has advantage, and within 5 feet of each other you can see each other and thus nobody has advantage. All the channel divinity ends up doing is causing the rest of your party to not be able to see the threats to target them leaving you to duke it out alone. It's not a good ability.

[@mattjennings101]

I didn't watch much Mighty Nein but Marisha was able to tank a couple shots from Bad News in a MN, VM pvp battle thanks to Mind of Mercury, and definitely the final ability is meant for giving vulnerability to fire damage then peace out and let the sorcerer upcast fireball on the bbeg. I think the Dudes were a little hard on Cobalt Soul

[@FalCorianHojasanta]

Beauregard is a weird character to use as a Standard, because while she used all her features really well and at times seemed overpowered. It has to be noted that Her stats were absurd. She had 20 in Dex, 18 in both Wisdom and Constitution (and 19 on Intelligence due to an item) her lowest was a 10 on Strength.

[@majinsole8554]

I actually find the Runechild Sorcerer mechanic very intriguing- something truly uniquely different for D&D.. ~_~

[@abydosianchulac2]

"New cheese to put on my fries." Spoken like only a Canadian could.

[@jonathanmathai9269]

50:57, Valda’s spire of secrets

[@jonathanmathai9269]

I have mixed feelings on the way the subclass were built, and after playing through some subclasses and classes; I come out a little negative. But I kinda want to see you guys break it down, maybe you’ll see something that’ll win me over

[@scrubyt2668]

A perfect way to use the Colablt Souls Debilitating Barrage feature is how Marisha used it in the Ukatoa boss fight in the Mighty Nein reunion when Beau punched Ukatoa to set up Caleb for a massive ice attack that he was resistant to at first

[@NapoleonSoares]

I actually played a character named Mannas- a triton oath of the open sea paladin (hexblade paladin, but still) when the book first dropped and it was as flavorful as advertised. Marine layer is weirdly powerful, and fury of the tides works much better when your main stat is charisma thanks to the hexblade dip. Also the free push from fury of the tides naturally makes you want a blender ally of some kind, i.e someone who can cast spike growth or something like that and once they do, it's pretty easy to get some absurd damage levels going.

[@Swimavidly]

I would absolutely LOVE to hear your review of the MCDM's new Talent class (their take on Psionics for 5e). I have been looking through it, and it's a lot of content, but even just skimming it I can see a lot of thought behind the design.

[@bobswag710]

It’s hilarious that the 17th level monk feature is the grave clerics lvl 2 channel divinity lol

[@duanebradway1627]

The most impressive blood magic I think I have ever seen as a playable option was created by Whitewolf back in the second edition of Vampire the Masquerade.

[@AvarFeralfang]

I love the idea that i can choose to cast spells dangerously. Shadowrun embodies this spectacularly well allowing you to over cast your spells at the risk of dealing lethal damage to yourself rather than the normal stun damage.

[@zachp1262]

Hey dudes! I recently got Sebastian Crowe's Guide to Drakkenheim and I love it. My wife is running a game soon and I will be playing your Arcane Hand Monk. Super excited!!!

[@Felrohan]

How long did it take to get yours? I ordered mine back in October and it still hasn't shipped

[@zachp1262]

@@Felrohan I actually just got the PDF not a physical copy

[@PsychoticDyldo]

I believe Kobold Press’ Tome of Heroes would be great to see done for ranking! Love the kobold press team and their works. They make some very interesting subclasses

[@karsten69]

As a Wizard you should almost always take Artificer multiclass, at least 1 level for medium armor + shield proficiency. This way, you can just wear armor instead of taking mage armor. saving a spell slot every adventuring day.

[@Lumenadducere]

Ranking MCDM's subclasses they've made would be great and much appreciated as someone who's been eyeing buying them for a while but isn't sure whether to go for it or not.

[@ad9aggie]

Goblin Blood Wizard: "I am Leuk, the HemoGoblin!" Pronunciation note: I grew up in Germany and pronounce Tal'dorei with a long a on the last syllable. Keep on keepin' on, Dudes!

[@joo1311]

Now I too want to play an Oath of the open sea paladin, but instead of Kelly's seahorse riding triton, I'm now obsessed with a gnome who rides in his pelican steed's beak ...

[@CJCook664]

I know that you guys don't take flavor text/RP into consideration with the rankings, but I did enjoy you adding a generic class fantasy bit at the beginnings of the subclasses in your earlier videos. Just seems like you're jumping right into features on these. For instance without any context on the Cobalt Soul fantasy (not that players have to stick to what's written) Mystical Erudition seems extremely out of place and random. Generally speaking, those are the monks that find or guard knowledge vs a monk training in a dojo or living as a hermit. Just a bit of feedback from the last couple videos.

[@thebrothersslim6056]

Absolutely loving this new series! Crystal punk and anything touched by Loot Tavern comes to mind. Oh and Mage Hand Press, although careful there, they have a whole book of classss and subclasses.

[@Swimavidly]

I have a buddy playing an Oath of an Open Sea Paladin in my current campaign. The Marine Layer channel ability won us a fight against a Sea Hag. The hag couldn't see anyone or any points on the battle field, so she couldn't cast spells at all. She still had a melee attack, but we could hit harder than she could. The Druid restrained here with Entangle (which doesn't require line of sight to cast), so she couldn't move to attack on her turn. As long as the Paladin backed away from her in between hits, she was totally blind. Fight lasted two and half rounds.

[@Metalchefkiwi]

Grim hollow and valdas spire of secrets ranking. Id love for the apothecary mutagenist build guide too

[@benin8or]

I'm a sorcerer fanboy and I love the idea of a sorcerer that can tank. Would you do a video of the stone sorcerer from unearthed arcana? How would you build a sorcerer tank subclass?

[@deru72]

I'm playing a tank sorcerer right now: hill dwarf order cleric 1/cockwork soul sorcerer X: extra hp, heavy armor+shield, armor of agathys, aid, tons of support and retaliation

[@charrleschervanik3632]

"What's the Sea Elves called?" Yes.

[@StephanG007]

I think you guys were a bit hard on Call Lightning. Sure its not quite smite damage, but Paladins are always hurting for ranged options, and the ability to strike again and again without burning spell slots is a fairly cost effective ranged solution for contexts where melee range just isn't an option.

[@dylanstock7090]

Completely off topic, but I just purchased your Dungeons of Drakkenheim on DND Beyond. I already own the hardcover, but I'm happy to be able to support you guys and your brilliant product.

[@danbakitus1394]

Definitely disagree with your stance on the monk's 17th level ability. Imagine giving your target vulnerability to force damage and your wizard casts disintegrate

[@wizrad2099]

It would be absolutely awesome to have Matt Mercer and Brandon Lee Mulligan come onto the Dungeon Dudes to rank their subclasses. Just throwing that out there.

[@pokemonlemons]

Definitely would like to see a tier list from Delver's guide to Beast World

[@chriscox8237]

The vibe of this is S tier. The class descriptions are great, but the vibe. Sheesh

[@jnhensley09]

An Armorer Artificer who's infused himself into his armor and cannot get out and is sustained by the armor (Darth Vader?) with IVs in his veins to keep his blood pumping; multiclass to blood magic wizard and use his blood to empower his spells and his armor. 🤯

[@gerbenwierda9683]

Love you guys covering non-core materials; would be cool to see you cover stuff like KibblesTasty or Griffon's Saddlebag

[@CN-jk5oh]

3rd party subclass suggestions for a future video: Tome of Heroes from Kobold Press. Great book. Go to it more often than WOTC’s PHB.

[@bengrace8808]

It always baffles me how much DD undervalues Arcana, Religion, and Nature, because I don't think I've played in a session that hasn't used at least one of these in all my time playing 5e. BUT importantly, these features that let you choose expertise later in the game have the benefit of allowing you to choose the skill you think both best suits your GM and fills a hole in your party.

[@gaminreasons8941]

It really depends on the DM. Some DMs really like their Lore Checks and others don't care. Personally I like rewarding high Int rolls with relevant and useful information, other DMs might not even make the players roll for it "eh, your character has high Intelligence". It's a niche ability.

[@WolfCry791]

I submit the subclasses in Incantations by Metal Weave games and the ones in Druids: Secrets of the Primal Circle by Homebrewed Games. Kobold Press also has some great ones in Deep Magic and the Tome of Heroes

[@sammy135_]

Y'all should do Valda's Spire of Secrets!

[@stylevender6142]

Mage Hand Press's Valda's Spire of Secrets has sooooo much content to explore. They added 5+ subclasses for every class other than Artificer, and created 10 classes of their own. They also printed a Sci-Fi 5e companion called Dark Matter that could probably be run through in just a video or two

[@grr-OUCH]

When Runechild came up, I could not help but hear the Iron Maiden song, Moon Child (with Rune instead of Moon).

[@knightoftheblackrose89]

I would love to see you folks rank the Steinhardts guide to the Eldritch Hunt subclasses.

[@mrr9636]

22:44 next time you guys are in the NYC area, get disco fries at a diner. They’re the NYC version of poutine.

[@mattbriddell9246]

Tome of Heroes by Kobold Press and Valda's Spire of Secrets from Mage Hand Press have a TON of great class/subclass material that would be worth looking at.

[@radiantphoenix_5147]

I wasn't ready for this paladin/poutine allegory.

[@Oscar_Milde]

"Hi. Kelly Mclaughlin, promoter of blood magic" Oh wow, I think I saw them play Lee's Palace

[@backupcharacters2911]

Please review Kobold Press! Tome of heroes has awesome subclasses😊

[@gabebaum6527]

I'd love if you guys went through Valda's Spire of Secrets, it's a fantastic (and very beefy) 3rd party supplement made by Mage Hand Press. It not only has many subclasses for the SRD classes but also a whole suite of new classes, all of which have been heavily playtested.

[@mploehrer]

20:48 "extra gravy on my poutine" 😂😂😂 you guys are so Canadian.

[@rossawilson8920]

Love you guys and love the Christmas jumpers!

[@HasteKing18]

Nothing to do with the video, just wanted to say I just saw Dungeons and Drakkenheim on D&D Beyond. That's awesome! CONGRATULATIONS! 🎉

[@htenerf137]

Dudes! I would love to hear your rankings of a Campaign that’s near and dear to my heart Odyssey of the Dragonlords. In my estimation it’s a book where the themes are super strong but the writers mechanics were not. But it’s interesting for sure.

[@SilvrSavior]

Runechild could be an interesting tank. Trade for Armor of Agathys and use the Aegis to extend the life of the spell. The 14th level could be used to juice up AoA to force damage from cold at the cost of maybe knocking you prone or pushing you.

[@lukesorensen2912]

Sanguine Burst on an Armorer Artificer who has the Defensive Field temp HP is a nice combination.

[@cohanesian00]

When they were talking about monks gaining new features that drain their limited ki points, I was thinking a way to achieve that would be to add features that trigger off spending ki points on existing features. Then when they got to the sorcerer, it was exactly what I was picturing. They fill runes by spending sorcery points, then they get to spend the runes. That type of design could help give monk subclasses more resources without ignoring the limited ki point pool.

[@Kharj4z]

I feel you should rank MCDMs classes and subclasses. I would love to hear your opinions on the way they are designed.

[@AndyReichert0]

After you review Grim Hollow, Please review the Humblewood subclasses.

[@TMRyan]

Thank you for explanation the Runechild Runes!! I really couldn’t grasp it even after having the book for about a year now. 😂 I really didnt like it cause the feature seemed so convoluted, but i get it now.

[@AznHeat1187]

You can still hold an action until the cobalt soul makes it vulnerable for the one hit and then really let them have it. Still niche because a teammate would need to built to be able to do the one big hit

[@Ferretic]

See any class that's geared to go Nova.

[@AznHeat1187]

@@Ferretic yeah exactly, refer to Colby's builds lol

[@loganengle4407]

Brettultimus World of Io has unique subclasses that are fantastic

[@Porlakh]

The subclasses in the most beautiful third party 5e book (imo) Fateforge, from Studio Agate would be awesome!. And you could share the amazing art that is the book itself!

[@boblemedieval]

Oh how I would LOVE to see Jill and Joe roast…HUM I mean rate the Drakkenheim subclasses!

[@CanadianCrits]

As a fellow Canadian dnd creator, I nominate myself for reviewing the drakkenheim subclasses! 😂😆

[@commanderroddi7742]

Crazy thing about extort truth is that you can continue to spend ki points if a creature succeeds on saving throw until it fails (if you have enough ki points). So fun watching Marisha use that ability in the Mighty Nein... As a monk you can build it with high AC to tank, but you're better off using your multi attacks, and then disengage with step of the wind ability to use the monk's greater mobility to get away. again, you can use patient defence to to basicaly have dodge action, so gives disadvantage, so you can tank if AC is high, but Yeah. again, Ray's character had pretty high AC as far as I could tell in that campaign. I don't think the "line of sight" is an issue for paaladin, since, since you are a smasher/slasher/piercer, you want to be hiden from caster/ranged types that deal damage, and be able to hit (without disaadvantage) the ones you're about to use your divine smite on. So, I think its well thought out that sttorm thing. as for the new Paladin class, interesting for sea based campaign, but not sure. I gues you could have a back story of somebody who was a sailor (or even pirate) and then became a paladin. I tend to prefer either a vengeance or redemption paladin. NOt sure if this is a good idea, but one thing I would have done with this class is allow to add divine smite on spells that damage from the added spell list (like, call lightning + Smite! THa may make it a bit better. SO, in this case, Call lightning or the new spells could do damage and add the smite damage to it in that way, it could be something to add motivation to use the new spells over just hitting with a weapon and using spell slots for divine smite. In a pirate campaign, this could be a good pirate hunger for the DM to use. I LOVE RUNECHILD! With some classes, I tend to horde abilities and spells (Like if I'm ina dungeon where I know we won't have a long rest, I tend to end up with way too many unused spells and metamagic points, but this encourages me to use them. I loved using animate object for this class. Good list. and with the glyph of aegies v/ shield or siilvery barbs is that, if your AC with mage armor is 15, you use shield, and the hit is a 20 or higher, you wasted a spell slot and still took damage. Silvery barbs, well, you force to rerool, and they could still hit you with a new roll. WIth this, you take damage, and at least you reduce it. I like the ability to reveal the magic stuff in a room, so, yeah, its nice. The fact you get advantage in checks,a nd understand the language is also useful. Somebody who knows how to do this properly (like the dungeon dudes) needs to make a class like this: a Paladin with the blood domain features? I think that'd be a cooler pali class.

[@novaprime9084]

Definitely want to see Grim Hollows subclasses and the ones for Drakkenhiem. Dr Drholins guide to dinosaurs was a Kickstarter and they designed some sub classes. Deep Magic vol 1 and 2 I believe also had some sub classes from Kobold Press.

[@brandonedwright]

I'm playing a Runechild right now and it's really fun. The Glyph of Aegis is way better than the Clockwork Soul feature that does something similar. Instead of spending Sorcery Points to reduce damage, you spend them as usual and use the charged runes instead

[@neilm838]

Do you lads film these before lunch. The food metaphors are strong here.

[@TJPavey]

The general concept of getting power by doing things you were doing anyway is currently one of the design mechanics of the MCDM game in development. I like things that discourage resting to keep the group pushing forward.

[@jakeholmes9296]

I feel like it would be a cool ability for a blood magic wizard to be able to use spells from other spell lists, maybe a limited number of times per day and you take damage that adjusts depending on the level of the spell.

[@davidlussier7447]

The cheese and gravy analogy for Paladin is hilarious as a fellow Canadian LOL

[@jonathanstern5537]

Kobold Press does amazing stuff. Check out Tome of Heroes... it's basically PHB2. I've taken a lot of stuff from them, between races, backgrounds, and subclasses... as well as, in the new year, making clockwork kestrel familiars for my party to give them magic resistance... the only problem is that they don't have an Artificer or any Artificer related stuff... in ToH at least.

[@lunamoth34]

New drinking game: marathon Dungeon Dudes content and take a shot at each food metaphor

[@OpenWorldAddict0]

Grim Hollo, Exploring Eberron are 2 ones that first come to mind.

[@gavinruneblade]

I think if the monk used the Sorcerer mechanic of having a power fueled by spending Ki that would be near perfect. And I'd love to see the Dudes look at Chamomile's classes (Chamomile's Guide to Everything, but that's a collection of a dozen smaller books).

[@stonefistfvf117ex.2]

And Remember Kids, Ya wanna pick the Divination School Of Magic? Pick Up Lucky, And watch the dice roll.. You may find yourself having more fun.. And your DM holding his head in his hands, As your Portent feature is complimented greatly by Lucky.

[@zoddlander]

one thing to point out is that the glyph of hemorrhaging can buff any other characters attacks! so if a monk or fighter attack the target afterwards that is a lot!

[@choasnight93]

Idk if it is that popular but Crystalpunk is a book made a year or so ago that has at least 1 new subclass per class iirc. Could be an interesting review.

[@williamporter5009]

It would be thematic and cool to allow a blood magic wizard to spend hit points to cast a spell, maybe roll a d6 for every level of spell slot. So a wizard could roll 3d6 to cast a 3rd level spell without using a slot, high level spells at low levels are expensive but thematic.

[@eran5005]

Review the MCDM classes! Beastheart, Talent and (my favorite) the Illrigger.

[@templeofthehut]

Lynnvander studios created the world of Imaria and it is awesome

[@codylamb6587]

The bit at the beginning? Perfection. No notes.

[@aarontran1026]

What if you did Death Ward with the Blood Magic casting? Would that let you cast the spell because you’re technically not reduced to 0 HP?

[@phillios3257]

Elven Rune Child Sorcerer. Rest 4 hours, expend most sorcery points to charge your runes. Short Rest to regain all sorcery points before the rest of your party wakes up, and still have time to take a watch.

[@karatekoala4270]

25:00 okay I gotta assist Kelly on this one. Currently playing a harengon pirate paladin of the open sea with a multi to swords bard. As someone that lives battlefield control, fury of the waves is amazing plus the anti grapple aura has been more than useful. What am I going to do in a dungeon Monty? Ever fight a roper that can't grapple you or the barbarian/druid? And call lighting has been my go to for flying creatures and elevated combatants.

[@Tamahome109]

Please consider reviewing The Talent subclass from MCDM. Id really like to hear your thoughts!

[@bubbles9829]

The RuneChild sounds something that I want to try.😂 Funny idea maybe look at the homebrew stuff at D&D beyond, I don’t know any 3rd party stuff on top of my head right now.

[@andrewcrawford6063]

I like the idea of the blood magic wizard with a lv1 dip of blood domain cleric

[@morisonwow7301]

I would love to see you guys review the subclass out of Heliana's guide to monster hunting.

[@Voriclexx]

I would love to see the Grim Hollow subclasses ranked!

[@GrandSythe1]

I’d love to see them cover the Valda’s Spire of secrets classes/ subclasses

[@wrightcore3367]

I don’t remember if you guys covered them in a previous video, but I’d like to see a tier ranking of the Blood Hunter subclasses. That, and the Grim Hollow content would be fun to see.

[@kanlith7205]

Hey @DungeonDudes!! Huge fan from India, could you please review the latest updated Blood Hunter as well as their subclasses please? Thanks, love your work!

[@Reborndx6]

It would be AMAZING to see you review the beasthart class by MCDM cause its extremely well done. I believe you would love it as welll

[@misslaylafortune9276]

I feel like Mercer is very aware of the way people view "overpowered third party subclasses" as bad homebrew, and he has a habit of over balancing his creations.

[@thornelson1411]

Which is why Blood Hunter has 1 good subclass(lycan), 1 mediocre subclass(ghost slayer), and 2 bad ones (profane and mutant)

[@Taeerom]

But also, sometimes he mess up and makes some feature that is way too powerful, like Chronurgy Wizard or Moon Cleric.

[@AnaseSkyrider]

​​@@thornelson1411Ghostslayer is solid damage and increased utility and control. Lycan is very hard to build for and comes at significant costs regardless of what you do: full DEX can make medium armor feel like a waste, your advantage on Strength checks and saves isn't amazing since you suck at those anyway; while STR is heavy because you need 14 DEX for medium armor and multiclassing is iffy, having heavy armor wastes your +1 AC, and you'll struggle to get ASIs on anything that isn't a human due to the high costs for PAM/GWM. Lycan also tends to have problems with Bonus Action clog. The blood curses themselves need some love, but spreading out your INT feels bad since it touches on a lot of abilities, so it's very hard to accept being MAD at all.

[@thornelson1411]

@@AnaseSkyrider true we do see the bonus action clog often with Chet. Also I witnessed it myself with my player who did a Fighter/BH lycan multiclass.

[@AnaseSkyrider]

@@thornelson1411 Going wolf in an encounter is highly cinematic but the 1 hour duration, short rest recovery, and needing a separate bonus action (and more self-damage) for activating Crimson Rite on your Predatory Strikes means it's something you should do before a combat you can see coming breaks out. And to expand on racial selections, I mentioned that variant human makes building (especially for STR Lycan) with feats and scores a lot easier. But by extension, it's also a tax on other interesting abilities. I love the idea of a Shifter Lycan Blood Hunter for a handful of reasons (and have played it straight-classed at mid levels for a few sessions), but the bonus action is a problem. Basically any race that has interesting abilities of this kind will not be nice to the Lycan.

[@CoercriSeareach]

Kelly just created Aquaman in D&D

[@mattdahm4289]

Thanks dudes!