March of the Crocodiles Episode II: Crocodiles and other Pseudosuchians of Kaimere

Crocodilians and their kin are among the great success stories in Kaimere, with the known world being home to a great diversity of species both familiar and unexpected.
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[@Catobleppa]

Average crocs: Croc body plant Odaga: I wanna be a kaiju baby

[@dariusrose9909]

My bois!!! Glad to be a sponsor!

[@TalesofKaimere]

Heck yeah!!

[@redlycan5064]

Same here!!!

[@BigBossMan538]

Depression: 😢 Tuesday: oh hi Tales of Kaimere!

[@gavinsiville9969]

Missed opportunity to play Gangplank Galleon here (That’s right, I’m gonna keep making King K. Rool jokes. Get used to em).

[@BigBossMan538]

An Garu is DK

[@gavinsiville9969]

Ooh that’s a good one

[@sivanlevi3867]

I find it awesome that the saltwater croc is found as a sigil among Kaimeran peoples. Also, love the attention given to gharials and caimans as they are lesser known than crocs and gators. I really love how protective mother crocodylians are of their young. Can't wait to hear you talk about giant crocs! Oh, by the way, did you know a group of crocodiles is called a float?

[@TalesofKaimere]

Thank you! Caiman and gharials are super cool and they both seem like a great fit for the generally hot and humid habitats of the known world.

[@Marcin9200]

Congrats you have created the perfect creature, the Wug.

[@TalesofKaimere]

It is my magnum opus

[@tec-jones5445]

I love the Odaga and Wug! Salt blasting mini godzillas and semi-domesticated turtle crocs are an unexpected and welcome surprise! I can't wait for next week with the Hrugetaur (what a beast). Really makes one appreciate the diversity of even just the crocodilian crown group in their hey-day, not to mention psuedosuchia as a whole!

[@TalesofKaimere]

You and me both! Felt important to include a few non-eusuchians, even if most went extinct 15 mya in the known world and the only pseudosuchians to reliably repopulate came from Earth.

[@glasslaughter824]

23:35 Magic: "Not unless I have anything to say about it. And I do."

[@dudotolivier6363]

I like that for this episode you chosed as main music one that give the feeling of calm, no stress and chilling and before everything is typically the one use to made think in a way or another to the Mississippi River or the Florida's Everglades ! This video is maybe not focused on Alligators, to which such music is merged with, but still for the most part fitting for crocs as a whole.

[@TalesofKaimere]

I agree!

[@xemiii]

I like how the wug is basically the inverse of an alligator snapping turtle; a turtle snapping gator if you will

[@TalesofKaimere]

Absolutely. Just a slow chill dude

[@Liethen]

or in this case a turtle snapping gator

[@RULER.EMU7878]

1:28 Damn the large male is looking like a deinosuchus

[@MrT_Rex]

Almost...and Deinosuchus was closer to alligators than crocodiles (but still HELL YEAH)

[@dudotolivier6363]

I guess that it's justly mean as a direct and obvious modern analog to it. Keenan do often that. Creating species which look completely almost identical to famous prehisotric icons and fitting the same niche than these in order to have these prehistoric icons in a way while it not possible to have them directly. Like he did with the Bearded Beaver which is the kaimeran version of the famous Castoroides.

[@SanderVF]

Seridic wetlands is so rich in crocodilians, that they even have a mammal croc in the Renzhuyo!

[@feralaquarist8805]

I love the Odaga so much!

[@TalesofKaimere]

Thank you!

[@gattycroc8073]

I said this many times, but we need an updated documentary about Crocodylomorphs since all we have is When Crocs ate Dinosaurs. I think the fictional documentary Dragons a Fantasy Made Real is a great start for influence since it started in the Mesozoic and went into the Cenozoic plus Crocs are kind of like the real dragons of are world.

[@gavinwallander4693]

Favorite archosaurs ever, I love pseudosuchians

[@TalesofKaimere]

Heck yeah!

[@Storm-crow13]

I just realized how effective the Odaga's salty snot blast would at fending off the Moorkutlot

[@praetorianrex5571]

I didn't realize you made your own take on Goji.

[@derrabbit7289]

This makes me miss old Steve Irwin. I wonder if Aggro, the Saltwater Croc, is still in existence. With all these predators around, it makes me wonder how there are any Kaimerans. Hominids make a bit too easy prey.

[@Bake-kurijra]

No he’s dead . I’m surfy to say the least

[@williamminsinger7130]

FINALLY had a chance to watch this. So glad to see my beloved Odaga back in the spotlight. THIS, finally, is probably my all time favorite Kaimeran critter. Great episode as always!

[@TalesofKaimere]

Much appreciated!

[@joshbray5016]

Never clicked a vid so fast I been waiting for this one !!!!! Haven’t even watched it all the way thru yet but I already know ima love it. I mean, the subject matter at hand is crocodiles after all and what kinda man would I be if I didn’t look at a subject matter like that and say ‘heck yeah’ ? HM? Exactly. smh. Lol Sending love from AZ Thanks for all that you do, sir Keenan.

[@TalesofKaimere]

Much appreciated and glad you're liking it!

[@beastmaster0934]

7:49 Now I have the image in my head of herds of pronghorn, gazelles, wildebeest, equids, thescelosaurs, elasmarians, and other medium-sized to large sized animals found in the Houze Prairie crossing a river during a migration, while crocodiles move in to grab unsuspecting targets.😊

[@Nigel_BC]

Yippee! Birthday episode! The odaga is really cool! I’ve been wondering about them for a while now. I like the adaptation of using excess salt as a defense mechanism!

[@glarnboudin4462]

Ayo, happy splortchday!

[@Nigel_BC]

@@glarnboudin4462 thank you!

[@TalesofKaimere]

Heck yeah! It's a fun one. Happy birthday!

[@Nigel_BC]

@@TalesofKaimere thank you!

[@theperfectbotsteve4916]

I imagine an Odajere like a little air plane with its arms out under water 10:20

[@Bake-kurijra]

Just imagine one of those Odaga getting a mutation that lets it fire off a concentrated beam of corrosive acid at there enemy’s and them getting even bigger with more back spines that resemble Godzillas birsal plats . Then what do we call them . Godrasuchus ?

[@rahatwiratara1325]

In kaimere they got possessed by magic and become demon Their size will rapidly growing.

[@dudotolivier6363]

The idea of a Demon/Mutants Odago due to magic like Vaskalamaldus the Raven King was is indeed a very concerning and scary idea to ever think about. But True Demons/Mutant animals are, almost universally, carnivores. As the mutation itself leading to such creatures is a Magic Hive entering the body of another animal, generaly the Hive of an animal which is consumed by another one, and them enter in conflict with the local Hive and destroy it and modify its new Host afterward. But much of the time, the local Hive manage to eradicate the intruder one, making such intances rares. So unless an Odaga eat another animal and even here the intruder hive manage to kick out the Odaga's initial one, there few to worry about such scary possibility.

[@Bake-kurijra]

Well what if it ate a plant that hade a dangerous the Magic that turned Vaskalamaldus into the raven king . What would happen if we say the new hive of magic was unsuccessful at getting rid of the invader colony . How would this transfomers the Odaga and make is more like a kaiju .

[@dudotolivier6363]

@@Bake-kurijra So, as far Keenan have established things, plants to not host hives of magic inside them (only animals). So even here it's just impossible to have a Demon/Mutant Herbivore, unless it eat meat. All herbivores actually are encline to eat meat if they get the opportunity and if they had really the need at the same time. Herbivores eat meat when they need additionnal nutrients, but if they have a piece of meat in front of them while they have no need for these nutrients now, so they will not most of the time eat it. Herbivores eating directly meat is already rare, as well than a animal becoming a Demon/Mutant, so it's twice rarer actually that a herbivore will become one. Don't say that never occured, but not a very, very, VERY common sight. As for turning it into a Kaiju ? That depend what you want by saying this. As, one, even solely Godzilla's franchise have show us a tons of diverse kaiju creatures VERY differents in term of power, strength and resilience level between each others (the weakest being the Giant Eagle if I don't say mistake, only dying after one single normal blast of Godzilla's atomic breathe). And, two, even if a Demon/Mutant is updated by a quite significant margin compared to a typical specimen of its species thank to the hive Magic's mutation, that don't made it invincible and unkillable by any means. There plenty of mutations and different degrees/levels of mutations that can occur in a Demon/Mutant animal. With very varying results. Not all Leopards becoming a Demon/Mutant with end up the same. Some being stronger and more resilient, others retaining the same strenght and fragility than in their intial state. Whatever, a kaimeran Demon/Mutant will always being millions less strong or resilient compared to any Toho monsters or others Kaiju. Because at best, a Demon/Mutant can be twice or third the initial size before its mutation, but that not enough compared to a monster the size of a typical urban building (as start point to which we can safely assume a kaiju can be called as such).

[@Bake-kurijra]

@@dudotolivier6363 hmm what about one of the bug three . Could one of them become a kaiju

[@wildtoonproductions4427]

It great to see more kaimeren crocodiles, in the planet the only crocodiles we seen is the zhen and han zhu. So it so great to see more crocodiles added to kaimere Also great to see odaga again, i fell in love with odaga since the island fauna episode and such a fitting tribute to an icon to Kajiu cinema P.s my birthday happen a few days ao perfect birthday gift

[@TalesofKaimere]

Love to hear it and happy early birthday!

[@dudotolivier6363]

I hope that one day someone will sponsor a video about the Crocodiles species living in the realms beyond the Known World such Permian Islands, kairul, or any landmasse able to host crocs species, to see more oancients and non-Eusuchian lineages. As without surprises, the Known World and its directs neighbors regions are dominated by Modern Crocodiles/Eusuchian/Crocodylia species, from the Cenozoic. While the others regions farer are of course the realms of the more older lineages discusses in the first episode. But its was still good to see that all of the 2 main lineages that are the Brevirostres (Alligatoroid, including Alligators and Caimans) and the Longirostres (Crocodyloid and Gharials/Gavialid) and the 4 types of modern/extant crocodiles we have today have all numerous representatives on Kaimere as a whole, and both in good current and stable diversity. And the Odaga and Wug clades were still good inclusions as well, and now can be considered more as "hints" or "teases" for future and more crazy, wild species inhbaiting the realms beyond the Known World. Both being, sort of, "Sneak Peaks" of their respetives groups !

[@vasantmasurekar4826]

Exceptional episode. Really loved this one especially love the Salties absolutely dominating once introduced. Would you consider Salties the hippo equivalent of Crocodiles 😅. Looking forward to the Giant Crocodiles episode next week..

[@TalesofKaimere]

haha yeah I think it's a fair analogue! Hippos are probably not going to retain their dominion in future developments. They're much more grass specialized than I initially realized so may struggle a bit with the comparative abundance of gymnosperms. Time will tell. However, salties are absolutely thriving to a point of taxonomic frustration

[@dudotolivier6363]

@@TalesofKaimere Even if their success will be a little decrease/drop, Hippos will still pretty much remain the same and still retaining a significant success and position compared to most others megafauna mammals or just fauna within the Known World. Because aside food limiting their numbers, not much can restrict them to be the almost invincible hell beasts their are known to be. For the most part, I think the "Hippos of Kaimere" episode will remain pretty correct in term of Lore and informations.

[@praetorianrex5571]

I'm patiently waiting for something in Kaimere that breathes fire.

[@dudotolivier6363]

It's could be entirely possible. Like VikasRao with its "Draconology" spec evo series managed to bring in the realm of the biological possibilities. And the way he imagined and find to made realistic and viable fire-spitting creature being free to everyone to use (he gived his greenlight to even just copy-pastes it so he's bothered by the fucking number of dumbs typical fire-breathing dragons represenations in pop culture). But don't think Keenan will ever take this route given that he want most things of Kaimere being differents from our general views of such subjects.

[@maxxgagliardo8754]

I love your worldbuilding on this fascinating world you have, as a fan, I have some cool ideas for creatures you can add to your world that will give it some flavor • Lambeosaurines- with the extinction of most large hadrosaurs, Lambeousaurine dinosaurs would have diversified as kaimeres main saurian herbivores along with drakes. In fact they would most likely fill in and exist in the same niche as thescelosaur drakes, similar to how wildebeest and zebras fill a similar grazing niche •Brontotheres-brontotheres could make a return and make them a sort of newly rediscovered species to kaimeran scientists •Therizinosaurs- I think therizinosaurs would be awesome to have more of in kaimere and they would compete with ground sloths for a browsing niche, so it would be interesting to see the dynamic More ceratopsians- there could be still some species of land based ceratopsian that filled the niche of older ceratopsians like triceratops and styracosaurus. They could have a predator prey relationship with the megaraptorans and mammalian predators. Maybe even give them the unique behavior of a large migration like with wildebeest Either way, you’re doing great man, keep up the good work

[@loisonnut]

Kaimere really is a world of crocs. Hard to imagine how many different lineages are chilling in the sheer enormity of Kairul. Now hopefully someday temnospondyls get their love too. 1. I believe you've mentioned giant (bigger than nile) crocodiles in the Houze before. Are these a separate unknown species or some breed of something in the episode? 2. Given the diversity of caimans and other Crocs in their habitat, what's the biggest croc a Renzhuyo is willing to duel? 3. Have the First Children incorporated the Odaga salt spit into their creations, perhaps with different liquids? 4. Given the Odaga and Sloth Croc now have pretty different faces, is that an intentional design choice? 5. Are Chelysuchids found on the Permian Islands along with their champsocnid cousins? 6. Something I was wondering: Given our seven seas, how does Assembly divide the oceans of Kaimere?

[@TalesofKaimere]

1. Zhen and Han Zhu sometimes venture pretty far upriver. It was likely a reference to them. 2. They probably tackle average male Seridic crocodiles, estuarine salties, and black caiman, but the largest bulls of all three species hunt renzhuyo. 3. Possibly 4. No. The sloth croc will someday get refined to be more similar, but it's serviceable art for now. Will keep the crests though. 5. No. The champsocnids swam there. 6. I haven't finalized all of them, but within the known world, there are 3 seas: Great Khalin Sea south of Arvel, Crescent Sea in the Crescent, and the Trakaiam.

[@alejandroelluxray5298]

I bet many of these crocodiles and caymans weren't happy to face the hippos that came during the latter harvests, especially considering both behemoths and sonjakus, those must be an absolute nightmare for most crocodilian species

[@chancegivens9390]

Good shit man! The wug looks like something straight out of Peter Jackson's King Kong, like a more heavily armored plant eating relative of the foetodon. The Odaga is another impressive beast, and I love the fact that Kaimereans know about godzilla. Dude's so unstoppable that he's even known on another planet that( I'm assuming ) doesn't even have movies! And I must say I like your depiction of the monster king, especially the tail fluke, I'm surprised that no official godzillas have that yet. You've definitely got a good selection of Crocodilians so far, plenty for me to craft in the future.

[@dudotolivier6363]

Kaimeran don't know about Godzilla and indeed, cinematography isn't a thing on Kaimere. Some Kaimeran working directly at the Assembly obviousely must have at least heard about it a little, as they are closer to Earth's related stuff than others. But obviousely don't much care about it (because why being interesting in a thing if the core medium showing it don't exist on your planet ?). Remember that the Earth's human members of the Assembly who name and denominate both scientifically and vernaculary the species of Kaimere. Not the Kaimeran themselves. And, like in our World, they have fun to sometime name animal out of our own pop culture.

[@dudotolivier6363]

Indeed, it would be an interesting addition. Given that, ironically, Godzilla have actually zero physical adaptations to swim or move in water since its very creation. Being just a retro late 1880's-1925's theropod dinosaur just being in water most of the time. Animal with zero adaptations to a marine life can perfectly swim with ease and on long distances. Basically what Elephants are as a prime example. Or the famous long-necked Tanystropheus which actually was a regular swimmer from the recent studies on it. But they are both not permanent marine critters. While Godzilla is mean to be an occasional land-dweller species. So should be much like Modern Crocs or Sharks and have physical adaptations to swim over seas.

[@noahcreutziger7690]

Great episode! I especially love the redesign of the odaga and the diversity of the alligatoroids

[@TalesofKaimere]

Thanks!

[@soudino2723]

If deinosuchus was introduced in kaimere(in regions like the seredic wetlands or the wetlands of kairul) with a decently sized population, could it outcompete the natives crocs and semi aquatic megaraptorans?

[@TalesofKaimere]

Probably not. There's established populations and there's nothing really special about Deinosuchus compared to Purussaurus and Eborsuchus already in the area. I mean they might do alright but they have tremendous competition cut out for them and surely either they or one of the other two would go extinct. Purussaurus and Eborsuchus are already pretty competitively exclusive to certain niches and regions and that would be further stressed with a fourth giant croc in the seridic wetlands.

[@soudino2723]

@@TalesofKaimere what about in the wetlands of kairul? When you made a video on the mega continent about the semi aquatic abelisaurid their was no particularly large crocidilian in the video and I belive it was the Fisher croc that was in it

[@1998topornik]

Odaga still my favourite crocodilian of Kaimere.

[@alghoulaj7172]

This is what we call extreme diversity! In the known world alone! I seriously wonder what monsters lurk in Kairul?

[@TalesofKaimere]

It's not as diverse beyond the known world (doesn't have a constant stream of new croc species) but there are lots of weirdos in Kairul to be sure!

[@alghoulaj7172]

@@TalesofKaimere Well, the weird ones are the best imho. But yeah. Permian Island Croc jungle is one of the few amazing places.

[@margchannel7430]

Good video mate, my favorites crocodilians are the adorable sheklat, the gojira like odaga and the little wug.

[@TalesofKaimere]

Love to hear it! Much as the big fierce crocs were fun to make, the weirdos and the little guys are always a treat

[@enderherobrine1599]

When will we learn more about the worlds beyond kaimere? I’ve been so curious about these since you mentioned them

[@TalesofKaimere]

It's on the agenda eventually!

[@Bake-kurijra]

Criky . That’s a lot of crocs and gators

[@Exquailibur]

small crocodilians can be surprisingly good climbers so I would imagine the younger ones of many species would do so, perhaps even the adults of smaller species.

[@nojorooney]

Hey Keenan, I love the video so far, I got a question, sorry if the question is a bit off topic but, how do lions, homotherium and leopards seemingly coexist in the titan gardens when all three seemingly share the same niche being tree cashers and hunters of small-medium size ungulates? Is there niche partitioning going on or do they all prefer different terrain or is it human interference? (making leopards very rare or extinct where lions thrive, etc)

[@junotus198]

If I remember correctly, it had something to do with the fact that 1) leopards, as they are on earth, are much more adaptable than the other big cats, leading to my next point 2) leopards were already firm in their niche as a smaller predator, whereas lions and tigers needed to adapt, but were less successful (remember, leopards can sustain themselves on even insects, the other panthera require far more than that), and the tigers and lions were brought into even greater conflict with the dromaeosaurs and megaraptorans. Leopards simply stayed in their niche as a much smaller predator within the shadow of the large predators, and thus were not as affected. (And also because of reason 1 earlier) I hope I could help!

[@nojorooney]

@@junotus198 I was asking how lions, leopards and homotherium can share the same niche in the titan gardens without one of them outcompeting the other 2, leopards are notorious for outcompeting other medium size cats in kaimere and lions and homotherium do the exact same thing that the leopard does to my knowledge in the exact same area. I was wondering how they can coexist so easily if they all seemingly share the same niche. This also applies to pakardia too as lions, leopards and dire bobcats all seemingly have the same niche. Thanks for the reply

[@TalesofKaimere]

Great question! Homotherium are more common in open forests where their cursoriality serves them well, leopards favor denser forests where their superior climbing is a great boon (although really leopards are just kinda everywhere), and lions are extremely rare in this habitat. Red panthers also live in the region but are generally restricted to wetlands and highlands. I have a decent amount of revamping due for the big cats as I've developed the project more and hope to clarify a lot of their niches then.

[@nojorooney]

@@TalesofKaimere oh I see, thank you for the clarification! I’ve always found the carnivoran predators the most interesting in this project weirdly enough even though Earth’s non aquatic apex predatory niches are almost always dominated by carnivorans from Pleistocene ancestry. Leopards have seemingly been able to take over the known world over night, outcompeting other big cats their size or even larger, so I was surprised to find out that they coexisted with lions, homotherium and dire bobcats relatively peacefully despite how badly they’ve seemingly outcompeted every other cat that is not directly above them or below them. I can’t wait for the revamp for the large cats and everything in store for the future, this is probably my favorite spec evo project out there

[@dudotolivier6363]

@@nojorooney Leopards did not outcompeted any predators above or below them. They just very adaptable to all context and were able to spread far and wide quickly almost everywhere in the Known World and on all Arvel and Ni'Khar (with potentially population in Kairul, who know ?) just because they fit in and use an ecological niche basically unique and never used before really in Kaimere's History or recent Times. Remember, Leopards always brought their kills on trees to avoid others predators stealing them. None others predators, aside the Thylacoleos species, behave like that. So, there no surprise Leopards have zero competition and pressures from others animals for niches and food to worry about. (before you may ask Thylacoleos and Leopards niche partition by targeting differents preys, with Thylacoleos hunting mainly large and robust animals that a Leopard with its significantly less powerfull and less cutting bite and teeth are unable to bring down). Predators "above" the Leopard in term of trophic niche weren't outcompeted by it, as basically all of them are non-mammals predatory theropods, fitting niches and hunting games too differents in forms and sizes from the ones of the Leopard (the latter incapable to fit, hold and hunt) and against it in a direct face to face the Leopard can't really fight. Regarding the species "below" it, here too, none of them were outcompeted by the Leopard. As even most big cats have adopted the same behavior than the Leopard to climb and hide in trees them and their kills, it's not as high in a similar level and fit niches still very differents. And targeting differents preys. Actually, on Kaimere, within the local setting of it established and posed by the presence of theropods as Medium/Vassals and Apex/Monarchs predators, the Leopard, Lion, Homotherium and Thylacoleo are both all togethers equals and at the exact same trophic level. The one of Mesopredators/Knights. (The Trophic Levels of the Arvel Lowlands slide is really good to give a niche picture of it). They all manage to coexist without much problems by niche partitioning and herd targeting differents games and hunting grounds. As well than using differents ways and behavior to catch preys. Homotherium and Lions hunt in more open forest parts of the Titan Gardens (remind that Titans Gardens and all the Lowlands of Arvel are a huge mosaic of sub-biomes), with Homotherium hunting small but fast games they take on active chases/pursuits (and able to cut pieces of flesh quickly to go with it in a safe place to eat it), and Lions hunting small but less cursorial games they take by ambush. While Leopards, thank to their unique behavior, can hunt a higher range of preys and hunt larger games in general and leaving untouched the smaller games. And inhabiting most habitats but always in higher concentration more than anything in the most forested covered areas. Leopards will always prefer to inhabit more and more forested, and more densely covered as possible, habitats than more open and less covered ones. As again : they need trees and much covers as possible as vital core points to made good ambush and to put as fast as possible their kills on it to avoid them being stolen by others predators. (As even a Neotenic Lion such the ones find on the Lowlands of Arvel, or an Homotherium, would still be in a dominant position to steal and repel a Leopard from its kill). While Thylacoleos overlap entirely in behavior to Leopards, competition is almost entirely avoided by targeting preys that a Leopard is unable to kill (such most Ground Sloths). And the preys the Thylacoleos hunt aren't the same that the Homotherium and Lions hunt as well. Avoiding competition with them as an effect. The Red Panther, which here on Kaimere is basically just a Jaguar, inhabiting wet, swamps, marshes and highlands biomes/areas in which the others Big Cats don't usually frequent and hunt mainly semi-aquatic to aquatic games (without mentionning this specific species is among one of the very few mammalian predators to be able to hunt dinosaurs as regular preys). So its avoid also competition with all the others like that. And in areas where it coexist with the Kaimeran Tiger Ndogash, in the Crescent Région, both interact and coexist like their analogs do currently on Earth. In final, the Leopard did nothing much at all when it was introduced to Kaimere, and just continue the exact same things it ever did on Earth. Being even pretty much blocked/stuck at its own ecological niche to some extents. Because it can't go into others niches and will be unable to face competition from all others Big Cats or predators sharing its habitat. As Leopards entering in conflicts with others predators and winning confrontations are completely unheard in our Earth. So in Kaimere.... I know that was quite long, but hope that was able to made clearer your mind regarding the subject. And remember that in our Pleistocene in Eurasia and North America, there several single formation were the number of medium-to-large carnivores coexisting togethers was quite high than it is today.

[@JurassicDaikaiju]

Crocs & Gators for the win!!!

[@SeanRowland-o3t]

8:44(sheklat) it is becoming increasingly obvious .I can deny it no longer, I am smol.

[@MegaRumia217]

Are there any notosuchians in the known world and kaimere in general? Since Wug and Odaga are no longer notosuchians, I wonder if these guys (notosuchia) survived to modern Kaimere...

[@TalesofKaimere]

I think the only one is the sebecid of the Crescent jungles covered later in the month

[@thedarkmasterthedarkmaster]

I know this is a late comment but i just wanted to say you did an amazing job covering the clade that includes crocodiles despite being called Pseudosuchia. Jokes aside their diversity on kaimere really makes out world seem deeply lacking. My question would be since this wasn't really touched on in the last two videos was how did crocodiles interact with Temnospondyls Chroniosuchians and carbosuchians groups and competition they never experienced to the same extent on earth

[@TalesofKaimere]

Thanks! The niche in the known world was dominated by crocs not because of any inherent advantage beyond being thrown into the niche after it was purged in unholy fire in the Dynastic Extinction

[@Catobleppa]

calling them salties makes them sound like a savory snack when in actuality they snack on us.

[@Henry.scott.william]

I want to see the native trying to say Eustreptospondylus

[@seanessdracosaurus2793]

Awesome

[@TalesofKaimere]

Heck yeah

[@seanessdracosaurus2793]

@@TalesofKaimere ye

[@maozilla9149]

nice video

[@TalesofKaimere]

Thanks!

[@maozilla9149]

no prob@@TalesofKaimere

[@TheEarlofManwhich]

So what I am hearing is that the odaga are the ultimate weapon against the moorkutlot?

[@TalesofKaimere]

Haha yes yes they are

[@afatpossum2586]

I would gladly forfeit all my possessions to the Wug.

[@TalesofKaimere]

Same tbh

[@Stooltoad5017]

I wonder why Vochek has a name… like was he named after they shot him, or was he more notorious? (Assuming he was shot by the assembly).

[@TalesofKaimere]

Will be answered next week!

[@operandwriter]

This world is home to some pretty big gators and crocs. Bet they make for good eating.

[@MrT_Rex]

**play King K Rool theme** 🎺🐊

[@reshi606]

Was startin to think Odaga were retconned since they haven’t been brought up in so long

[@TalesofKaimere]

Nah I just needed to remake the art and knew I wouldn't have time until a relevant episode.

[@yamatanoorochi6203]

I don't know if any will be mentioned in the next episode or if they are among the already extinct groups, but I am curious about the fate of the following species (Or at least their possible descendants/relatives): - Kaprosuchus. - Anatosuchus. - Laganosuchus.

[@TalesofKaimere]

I don't think any of those were harvested, and certainly don't have descendants in the known world. There is a clade of alligatoroids that convergently have pronounced teeth already seen in crocodiles so it looks kinda like Kaprosuchus, but so would any crocodile with the five sets of big teeth being pronounced.

[@alphaaquilla1359]

any mini crocodilians?

[@TalesofKaimere]

Yup! Sheklat dwarf crocodile rarely exceeds a meter long, and the turtle crocs have several small species.

[@alphaaquilla1359]

@@TalesofKaimere what about mini gators?

[@Burning_U_Kiryu]

*godzilla music plays* 23:10

[@udaychhetri1963]

Dragon vs uktan please

[@ashhawk7489]

Not sure why but every time I hear a harmonica in the episode opening of an episode it puts a smile on my face. Is there a harmonica analog in kimeran culture?

[@TalesofKaimere]

Thanks! I haven't made many instruments yet but it's something I plan on eventually developing. Certainly going to be similar instruments.

[@Feranogame]

It's interesting how the Sheklat Dwarf Crocodile has the specific epithet "cheklat". I wonder if the assembly has changed rules of latinization a few times

[@TalesofKaimere]

That's part of it, but there's also multiple English spellings of a lot of Kaimeran words. Various documents will show Na'Khar and Ni'Khar for example, as the Imperial word is Ni'Khar and Amanetran generally leans more toward the a. I tend to favor the local pronunciation of given words, but since the Assembly works most with the Free-States, that does give some bias. A lot of animals from Ni'Khar have the species epithet of nakarensis, for example.

[@udaychhetri1963]

I want to see to robust monarch fight with each other like uktan vs zenatar please 🥺❤️

[@rylanbrewer3320]

Did Cuban crocodiles get harvested during the interrupted harvest of so what happened to them

[@TalesofKaimere]

If harvested, they either managed to integrate into one of the established Crocodylus species, or they died off

[@Sabatuar]

Hello, yes? I'll take a dozen wug.

[@TalesofKaimere]

Same here!

[@TrainLizard]

I already know Han zhu is a descendant of kaprosuchus from the teeth

[@Andrey.Ivanov]

It's not, this is just convergence. It's even said in the video that it's from a clade of alligatoroids

[@TrainLizard]

Just realized that,was to early to hear that before

[@udaychhetri1963]

Fire birds vs dragons 😎

[@maikgg-yp2cm]

One question: you have said several times before that the Moduru lizard is the apex predator of the coasts and islands of the inland sea, but the saltwater crocodile appears very ecologically dominant too. Do they compete or are they adapted for different niches?

[@TalesofKaimere]

They do compete. Salties are more aquatic and moduru more terrestrial, so on larger islands, the moduru is more dominant, but on shorelines of small islands, salties tend to dominate. It's also worth noting that sexual dimorphism in moduru is much less. While the largest male salties are larger, the average moduru is bigger, and their females are generally larger and can therefore dominate ideal nest sites.

[@elephantcool9144]

Great video! I do have a question though, you have stated that the alligators of Kaimere tend to be more docile then those on Earth, so have there been any attempts to domesticate or tame alligators? Alligators are able to be trained to respond when there name is called, recognize when there being fed, and target a specific area when trained and have been documented using sticks as bait to lure in birds during there nesting seasons. So there calm deminer and high intelligence means they could be used as hunting companions for wetland/aquatic prey or for guarding settlements near water due to there low metabolism.

[@TalesofKaimere]

Great question! I gave it a fair bit of thought but had to cut the segment for time constraints. The closest thing to a domesticated alligator is the Seridic cattle caiman. They are easy to tame and train, and need a lot less space and food than mammal livestock of the same size, but the biggest hurdle is growth. 10 or so years before adulthood. It's much more efficient for the Seridic villagers to round up a few dozen caiman every year than raise them in captivity, so there's no real incentive for domestication. There are caiman and alligator farms on larger scales, but it's not as efficient as mammals for the sake of expediency. Most farmers would rather invest in more resources to get adult livestock in 2-3 years. As for hunting companions or guardians, the slow metabolism is pretty preventative of travel with a hunter, and the type of crocodiles aggressive enough to deter attack aren't ones you want near your settlement anyway. It's certainly happened, and witches with crocodilian familiars have a great companion with minimal upkeep needs, but they've not been domesticated.

[@dudotolivier6363]

@@TalesofKaimere Interesting to heard that as on Earth Kaimeran have their own Crocodiles Farms.

[@IsaacJuett]

Wait a minute what about the Ao Lot Qetz. I assume its a metriorhyncid so wouldn't that classify it as a pseudosuchian?

[@TalesofKaimere]

Yes but they’re not present in the known world. Endemic to the ocean within Kairul. There are so many more pseudosuchians than I covered in this episode. This is just those in the known world.

[@IsaacJuett]

Aside from Chaku Ka Bawe are there other robust monarchs only found in kairul?

[@SanderVF]

I see the Megaraptoran courses on murder even had some herbivore students.

[@rylanbrewer3320]

There’s this one thing that always confused me what was the saltwater caiman it’s mentioned multiple times in the video is it a unique species or just a population of black caiman who happen to live in the inland sea

[@TalesofKaimere]

They’re all dead. Gone. Extinct. Was a distinct caiman species from any on Earth or kaimere

[@rylanbrewer3320]

@@TalesofKaimere I guess the only way we could see any artwork of a saltwater caiman would be in a episode about caimans or the predators of inland sea

[@rylanbrewer3320]

@@TalesofKaimere so they weren’t a part of the genus melanosuchus We’re stupedemyus or any species of the genus caimen harvest

[@junotus198]

What are human and odaga interactions like, if they ever meet? Are the odagas more defensive and aggressive, or do they ignore humans?

[@TalesofKaimere]

They would happily ignore humans, and are generally docile, but will defend themselves if pressed.

[@tyrannotherium7873]

23:21 Godzilla

[@TalesofKaimere]

Shhhhhhhh don't tell Toto I can't take that kind of heat

[@tyrannotherium7873]

@@TalesofKaimere lol

[@udaychhetri1963]

Megaraptors vs tyrant king 👑 will bee amazing 😍🤩

[@thelurechannel1930]

Ikr

[@udaychhetri1963]

@@thelurechannel1930 what that means??

[@soudino2723]

I know right​@@udaychhetri1963

[@chrismaticwolf3780]

Pseudosuchians❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@TalesofKaimere]

They are glorious

[@Tusovr]

Gathe odaga is godzilla

[@liambrandley2716]

What kind of crocodilians are most common beyond the known world?

[@TalesofKaimere]

Depends on the region. Lot of alligatoroids, gavialoids, and crocodyloids in Kairul, but not many from modern families.

[@NP3GA]

More crokies

[@qwellen7521]

Odaga vs Gigantopithecus when?

[@ryanchen1819]

Based on information of black caimans that I’ve gathered, I find it interesting that Kaimeran black caiman which seem to be more robust and aggressive than Earth black caiman in that it can more readily combat crocodiles while Earth black caiman would lose to a jaguar 3 times smaller than itself (kzbin.info/www/bejne/opCwn4V6hdmAgdUsi=jEA93V8lv4cWww-s). Though speaking of which, how big are Arvelith crocodiles that Kaimeran black caiman encounter?

[@shingtiong9425]

That is false jaguars go after spectacle and young black caimans,not adults.

[@TalesofKaimere]

On Earth as I understand it, jaguar predation is generally restricted to crocodiles that weigh less than themselves with only targeting larger individuals if the caiman is somehow compromised. Seems that while jaguar and anaconda are a threat to young black caiman, once they reach large size, the tides turn. It could certainly happen, but I expect beyond 4 meters, caiman are only in danger if they're trapped or something.

[@ryanchen1819]

Was referring to average black caiman. Jaguars avoid the 5 m giants.

[@ryanchen1819]

Yes though interactions between jaguars and crocodilids are more akin to those of their old world cousins.

[@udaychhetri1963]

Running crocodile vs raptors

[@udaychhetri1963]

Dinosaurs vs dragons

[@chrismckibben7207]

are you sure that no rauisuchians on kaimere?? not even the smallest of the rauisuchians species??

[@Andrey.Ivanov]

No Triassic harvests means no rauisuchians no matter the size.

[@TalesofKaimere]

I am unfortunately positive on that

[@shingtiong9425]

Forget gozilla x kong the new empire, I'm gonna watch odaga x angaru tales of of kaimere.(ps any giant moth) So the winged croc basically do a butterfly stroke when swimming right? Does qajarith man exist, you know wrestling alligators? Continuing on from that question was that part of munarka's training with his father, alligator wrestling?

[@TalesofKaimere]

haha I won't rule it out! Winged croc do sometimes do something similar, yes. There are some ballsy Qajarith that wrestle gators. Probably in Arvel and Pakardia too.

[@shingtiong9425]

@@TalesofKaimere This is question I have and I wanna ask do homunculi with cultures like merfolk have their own languages when they were created or did it took time for an unique language to be formed?

[@bartekdraszawk4315]

are there any notosuchians in the known world?

[@TalesofKaimere]

Only one, which will be covered in the last episode of the series.

[@bartekdraszawk4315]

@@TalesofKaimere i was thinking more about something like notosuchus or armadillosuchus but a sebecid is cool to.

[@hinskiemaso9198]

Interesting to see that Western Salties is just a subspecies of C. porosus while Common Salties is distinct species. Are Western Salties more rescent and just didn't established in Known World or is it just another taxonomic mess among the Assembly, with reaserchers argueing about if they are subspecies of C. kaimerensis or C. porosus?

[@TalesofKaimere]

Nah that's just a reflection of the vast taxonomic disagreement between Assembly naturalists. Some say Kaimeran salties are a subspecies of C. porosus, while others think they're a distinct species. The simple reality is the definition of species and subspecies are kinda arbitrary, so it all comes down to which researcher is writing the article and their somewhat subjective opinion on the phylogeny debate. Western salties, Trakaiam salties, Crescent salties, and eastern salties may represent four species, four subspecies of C. prorsus, or some variation of this layout. Western salties are genetically most distinct but may still just be a subspecies. I can't give a concrete answer because there isn't one unfortunately

[@hinskiemaso9198]

Thank you for answer

[@GodzillaRex100]

Wug wug wug

[@udaychhetri1963]

When the dragons will be invading the mainland I want to see din

[@TalesofKaimere]

All shall be revealed in time

[@udaychhetri1963]

Do you know that megaraptors arms very flexible that they can pronate there hands arms and fingers down words like us humans 😮

[@ryanchen1819]

well almost

[@udaychhetri1963]

@@ryanchen1819 yes this am I saying that's very cool 😎 right

[@Exodiant]

WUG

[@TalesofKaimere]

INDEED

[@elshebactm6769]

🗿👍

[@bruisedbooty438]

There’s some sort of blur effect going on that pops on and off every 3 seconds. I love your videos but this is starting to really bug my eyes. Hope there’s a way to fix it.

[@TalesofKaimere]

It's something I've got to figure out. I've made my files smaller because I think it's simply too much data, but maybe I should try compressing it further. The original file also does that in parts so it's not KZbin's fault. Maybe I just need to let Movavi go and try other software that can better handle the data without so much compression. It's annoying to put so much work into the art and folks only get to see blurred or inconsistent versions.

[@bruisedbooty438]

@@TalesofKaimere thanks for responding and i really appreciate you taking my issue into consideration. I also follow you on DeviantArt so im still personally getting the fully rendered good stuff! I just enjoy my morning coffee with your videos before work!