March of the Crocodiles Episode III: Giant Crocodiles of Kaimere

Though many crocodilians in Kaimere reach 6-7 meters, with the giant saltwater crocodiles attaining 8 meters in the largest bulls, three species of crocodilian are set apart from the rest by a staggering magnitude: Hrugetaur, Zhen, and Han Zhu.
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[@karlmoore9422]

Kaimerans:Revering Kurajaku as the river god. Zhen: "Am I a joke to you?"

[@justinianthegreat1444]

Well to be fair, Kurajaku is way more imposing than the Zhen

[@Ezpo1027]

Love the fact that these crocodiles have little to no difference from ancient crocodiles, which really proves the phrase "if it ain't broken, dont fix it"

[@TalesofKaimere]

The great wisdom of crocodiles

[@CoralReaper707]

I was just gonna comment about that lol

[@Stooltoad5017]

So Vochek isn’t stuffed in the Great Library. I guess dropping a gigantic Purrusaurus was a taller order than I had imagined.

[@TalesofKaimere]

Indeed. They were actually able to simply measure him. At 13.4 meters and covered basically in iron, it's been like 3 decades since he's had anything to fear.

[@dudotolivier6363]

@@TalesofKaimere which so naturally leads us to the next obvious question : How, in the first place, such tiny and fragile humans and kaimeran members of the Assembly even managed to measure him while leaving him alive without ended being killed in the process ?? You yourself said in the episode that Hrugetaur are actually pretty calm like others Caimans species even toward humans, but not at such level to let small naked bipedal apes to touch you for hours like if everything were normal and ok and without not being bothered by it. Almost a incredible miracle to even have get close enough to him to record a decent estimates of its size and mass !

[@RandomName11659]

​@@dudotolivier6363well maybe they did it while it slept, or didn't actually get that close, maybe they did it from a far, they didn't say the time so maybe they took extra time to measure from a relatively safe distance

[@dudotolivier6363]

@@RandomName11659 Fair.

[@notthebest2968]

​@@TalesofKaimereWait since crocilians don't stop growing wouldn't that mean he has gotten even bigger?

[@Huitizilopochtli]

Amazing to finally see this three guys get their own episode. Its nice to see the Kurajaku has some competition.

[@TalesofKaimere]

Absolutely! Was long overdue.

[@BigBossMan538]

I hope that Steve Irwin was secretly cloned onto Kaimere so that he can have the time of his life wrangling big crocs 🥲

[@miquelescribanoivars5049]

Tick-Tock_Tick-Tock_Tick-Tock The crocs are here!

[@udaychhetri1963]

Dragon vs uktan

[@dudotolivier6363]

@@udaychhetri1963 You realize this comment have nothing to do with this Peter pan's reference ?

[@Tyrannmon]

@@dudotolivier6363 ya they do l tick tock the croc fought a dragon in the second move and he won .

[@RabidicusNollis]

WOO SEBECID TIME!! I cant wait to learn about how theyre faring in Kaimere. On earth, they were the largest terrestrial carnivores since the mesozoic but on kaimere they're probably slotted neatly alongside the terror birds and dromies as vassal predators. Im sure the sloths of kaimere arent too thrilled that one of their ancestral predators followed them through the portal.

[@buckstoeffler8363]

As a Croc School alumnus, it makes me so happy seeing Maximo, Sydney, and Gomek in these videos.

[@vasantmasurekar4826]

Finally the Giant Masters of the rivers. The great Giant Crocodiles of Kaimere. Really loved the episode.Han Zhu, Hrugetaur and Zhen are really exceptional animals.

[@JurassicDaikaiju]

Love this entire series! Crocodilians are my favorite modern animals.

[@TalesofKaimere]

They’re fascinating!

[@JurassicDaikaiju]

@@TalesofKaimere IKR

[@Shqiponjëland]

Han zhu is the best thing i have ever seen

[@TalesofKaimere]

Thank you!

[@Exquailibur]

Purusaurus has always been one of my favorite extinct genera of animals out there, they are not just big but also heavily built and lived closer to our modern era then many other giant crocodilians

[@ashhawk7489]

It actually makes sense that the smallest of the three is the most aggressive. Having a bite first maybe ask questions later policy is not the worst survival strategy in a world with thing that are likely to try and eat you.

[@singingcrow439]

I would imagine Han zhu's more aggressive nature also played a part in outcompeting Hrugetaur in the wet lands. They may be overall smaller but I wouldn't be shock if zhu's long teeth are one of the few things capable of actually hurting all but the largest of Hrugetaur. Maybe not piercing the body, but crocs are known for going for a rival's legs, tail and even jaw in a brawl so that'll probably where the damage will be. Also how do these crocs interact with hippos? I feel like the larger specimens of these crocs could bring down even a behemoth.

[@TalesofKaimere]

Indeed. Hrugetaur can sometimes hold their own, especially if they have a size advantage, but the superior weaponry of the Han Zhu is definitely not to be trifled with. Combine that with its aggression, and it's no wonder hrugetaur are comparatively rare in this region and not as large as mainland Ni'Khar and Arvel. The teeth can't always penetrate, but no one wants to wait around and find out. Han Zhu can bring down behemoth. Herds can pose a problem, and it's really only for the top 5% of bull Han Zhu that try it, but they can at that size.

[@ScanovatheCarnotaurus]

We see something similar in Cuba. The aggressive Cuban Crocodiles dominate the more docile American crocodiles where they overlap despite the latter being much larger.

[@alejandroelluxray5298]

​​@TalesofKaimere I bet bringing down Behemoth is anything but easy, hippos are always aggressive and willing to kill anything that so much as bothers them, so even for this massive alligator, they must be dangerous prey

[@Tyrannmon]

⁠@@alejandroelluxray5298 um I think killing the big three would be to dangerous for a hippo . Especially the Zhan or a Hrugetaur or a Han Zhu

[@alejandroelluxray5298]

​@Bake-kurijra I pretty much doubt that the Zhen can do anything to a Behemoth due to how its jaws are designed for small game and fish. Hrugetaur and Han Zhu might be able to take one down, but it is as much of a risky gambit for them as It is for the Behemoth to fight them head on, let's not forget that those hippos can reach 8 tons at maximum size

[@ryanchen1819]

7:56 I find this interesting because as on Earth, caiman tend to tackle animals smaller than themselves and purussaurus brasiliensis didn’t had to deal with other animals largest than itself other than the occasional otodus. (Sort of like the hippo situation.) BTW, American alligators reaching a ton aren’t verified.

[@TalesofKaimere]

Indeed, I should have specified those estimates seem accepted by a lot of folks I spoke with and articles I read, but have not been verified.

[@sivanlevi3867]

These giants are incredible! Really impressed with the lineage, power and reputation of these three. Danger, danger, danger, baby! BTW I thought Sarcosuchus was larger than depicted in that crocodile size chart. Can't wait for the final march of the crocodiles! I also love the music in this video. Like a mix of fantasy and old western showdown type of sound. Just spectacular! Keep it up, Keenan!

[@TalesofKaimere]

Thanks so much! Does seem Sarcosuchus (like many other prehistoric crocs) has a long record of being overestimated

[@sivanlevi3867]

For the record, who is the biggest crocodilian in Earth's history right now?

[@TalesofKaimere]

@@sivanlevi3867 Unfortunately a lot of big boys like Purussaurus are known from primarily skulls, especially at upper sizes, so it's hard to say. Estimates therefore vary. To my knowledge Deinosuchus is generally considered the biggest but again with such fragmentary remains and that being an estimate, more material or future studies could change things. For example, I know Purussaurus got a major downsize in size estimate last year, with the assumption that it had a larger head proportional to its body than earlier estimates assumed. All that to say: we have no definitive largest crocodilian. It's all estimates.

[@sivanlevi3867]

@@TalesofKaimere But surely, there must be a ratio to use based on modern crocodiles that paleontologists could use, isn't there?

[@bonemarrow3439]

6:42 i was just wondering about the subspecies/speciation of such a widespread species but i was impressed you explained it already! You really do an amazing job of world building!

[@TalesofKaimere]

Thanks so much!

[@noahcreutziger7690]

Spec evo and croc enthusiasts will see this and say "Hell yeah!"

[@Alien_Evolution]

Imagine seeing a crocodile whose head is longer than you are tall. Bruh

[@alghoulaj7172]

Earth's giant crocs : exist.... Kaimere's giant crocs : small fry!

[@WILDMUTTDude]

I once said and I say it again: Purussaurus' skull it's the most agressive ever created by evolution. It's like a cement block with teeth

[@TalesofKaimere]

Absolutely terrifying, even just in the pictures I had as reference. Would love to see at least a restoration someday!

[@beastmaster0934]

Any time I see the skull of Purussaurus, whether it be a picture or an artist’s rendering. All I can think of is. “What the hell did this thing eat!?” I’m guessing, due to its size and build. The answer is quite simply Whatever the hell it wants.

[@PsychedelicScrafty]

Finally. The master gators

[@richie_0740]

steve irwin wouldve love kaimere

[@datpolakmike]

​@@richie_0740 Doctor Alan Grant: "stop giving me your most dangerous fauna" God: "but you are my strongest scientist" Steve Irwin's Ghost reincarnated on kaimere: "GIVE ME BIGGER SHEILAS TO WRASSLE" God: "what the fuck"

[@richie_0740]

@@datpolakmike "Crikey, look at that han zhu, that thing couldve ripped half of you off. imma wrestle it, watch closely"

[@transnewt]

7:30 oh so tenirha and sharax'ha will be meeting vochek

[@TalesofKaimere]

Nope. Just is the slide for the species

[@barger5329]

Love how one of the boar crocs is now one of the apex predators of the wetland

[@MrPink-qf1xi]

One unquestionable rule of nature still persists, Crocs rule.

[@TalesofKaimere]

Indeed

[@dudotolivier6363]

This episode is good for : 1 - using which is likely THE BEST piece of music you frequently use for the episodes and which put already directly ourselves into the theme of it. 2 - Speak about giant crocs (because giant crocs are awesome and well... are giants tso they inherently cool). 3 - Explain in great details more specifically about the three main and largest species teased and mentionned since a VERY long time, inclusing 2 of them are were in kaimere since even the very start (Zhen and Han Zu). And how they are among the top kings of their kingdoms. 4 - Have these latter two having names which feel/sound very Chinese/Asian-like ish from the old dynasties of the past centuries, which add a really welcomed element which is neat in a fantasy setting. (ok, just a perso appreciation, but still good to have names which sound like coming from our Earth cultures even if they are from the natives languages of Kaimere itself). 5 - And very educative about why crocs end up being giant in the first places. So, overall, really the perfect mix/concentration of everything to what made a good Kaimere's video !

[@TalesofKaimere]

1. Indeed! It's a great piece for big monsters. 2. Good to cover the basics 3. Absolutely! Zhen has been in the project in some capacity since 2004

[@julianodobler2782]

Hell yeah Purusaurus!!!

[@TalesofKaimere]

It's simply the best

[@mokasaam1819]

Agree 💯

[@wyattrippy5939]

Imma need a show or movie made out of this, like, yesterday

[@TalesofKaimere]

Heck yeah!

[@tomerorlevi1673]

Will you do something like a book or a novel or a guide book or will it just be ​designs and artwork@@TalesofKaimere

[@MrT_Rex]

KINGS CROCS It's cool that you use metric system

[@TalesofKaimere]

Thanks! I was raised with a mix of both. I tend to defer to Imperial simply because I live in America, but I'm trying to shift to metric in these episodes given its standard in most natural history and zoological fields (and for good reason imo)

[@qwellen7521]

Hippos be like: yeah i can still take em.

[@TalesofKaimere]

Never underestimate the belligerent confidence of a hippo

[@beastmaster0934]

@@TalesofKaimere I bet many a hippo has lost its life at the tusks of the Han Zhu because of that belligerent confidence.

[@Harmzeedj1]

A hippo ain't doing shit against any of these reptiles

[@ginam5497]

@@Harmzeedj1 Agenst the biggest, most are (kaimeran) saltwater crocodile sized females, or substantially larger but still vulnerable to a 5 ton behemoth males.

[@tyrannotherium7873]

Honestly, crocodilians are my favorite reptiles

[@TalesofKaimere]

They're so cool!

[@CoralReaper707]

Crocodilians are really stubborn animals. While yes, a good chunk of Crocodylomorphs did die out, a lot of them persisted through the KPG mass extinction.

[@TalesofKaimere]

Absolutely. They are very impressive and resilient.

[@CoralReaper707]

@TalesofKaimere yep

[@TRKPurgatos]

Very nicely done. Crocodiles are awesome!

[@TalesofKaimere]

Thank you, and heck yeah they are!

[@Ezihkhel]

I remember hearing about eyewitness accounts of a Saltie that was rumored to be aroubd 10-12 meters long that was spotted in the same area where the late record-holder Lolong(I believe he's the croc in the pictures you included with a guy touching his tail with a stick) was found and captured, but it is clear that the people who made the size estimate severely overestimated the size of the other Saltie that was spotted as Lolong himself was already a pretty gigantic specimen, but a 10-12 meter long specimen would be pretty ridiculous as the largest potential prey item in the area are domestic cattle and water buffalo, which couldn't possibly support a croc of that size. I believe fear and paranoia were the reasons why the locals overestimated the size of the other Saltie as Lolong was believed to have been responsible for the death of a young girl in the area prior to his capture, as well as the disappearing of a domesticated water buffalo.

[@TalesofKaimere]

Yeah I am extremely skeptical of the idea of a crocodile fully double the length of the largest verified record.

[@locky7443]

8:50 Not sure I buy them being "entirely bullet proof", while I could see it being bullet resistant and possibly even getting lucky deflecting or surviving higher caliber guns. Most estimates say that rifle rounds could go through Ankylosaurus armour let alone something like a 50 bmg. Other than that great video!

[@TalesofKaimere]

Thanks! To be fair, they only have a couple instances to go on. No guarantee all hide is bulletproof at all angles. It’s entirely possible it was just a matter of poor shot placement. A glancing hit on the back of a charging caiman isn’t going to have the same penetration potential as a broadside stationary shot.

[@TalesofKaimere]

Also the Assembly considering they bulletproof doesn’t mean they are, just that they tel their shooters to not count on penetration.

[@locky7443]

@@TalesofKaimere Glancing hits, poor shot placement and just the shear size of the animal allowing it to survive those that do penetrate could definity give the illusion of bullet immunity. Similar statements about grizzly bears being immune to muskets were made by settlers despite bears not actually being immune. Many hunting rounds are also designed to be poor penetrates so that all of their energy goes into the target, great against something like an zentar but perhaps less great against heavy armor. So maybe poor ammunition choice is to blame. If all else fails people describe bullet resistant things as bullet proof all the time so it could be that.

[@locky7443]

@@TalesofKaimere Fair, I guess I have a pet peeve in many spec evo settings that animals are somehow completely bulletproof despite that not being a very easy thing to evolve and there being no reason to develop that kind armour. Especially bad if it is in a lightly armoured predator, looking at you avatar and jurassic world. However a heavily armoured multi tonne croc being difficult to kill with bullets I can buy that.

[@ginam5497]

@@locky7443 To be fair, the tyranosaurs if the Jurassic franchise tyranosaurs can survive their own running speed, i'm sure one with some armor would be hard to kill with bullet's, does not explain the rpg not killing it tho.

[@Tyrannmon]

I can just imagine one of these big boys getting turned into something like the raven king

[@shingtiong9425]

Han zhu was one of my favourite design of yours so I like its redesign. I like the contrast between han zhu and purrusaurus temperament. Also sidenote can they take rocket launchers cuz gustave a maneater nile crocodile was said to did it so I'm curious.

[@TalesofKaimere]

Thank you! Yeah it just made sense to make the contrast since one clearly invested in weaponry and the other in defenses. If a nile crocodile can do it at a fraction of the size, then perhaps, but I'm reluctant to go on record with a confident yes.

[@jhonnymcgee7266]

Oh my god never been so early (wow) I love your videos so much man so hard to find some good old spec evo content out there, love the series cant wait to see more from kaimere :D (I wanna see a big bug)

[@TalesofKaimere]

Thank you so much!

[@dudotolivier6363]

From a comment discussion I had with Keenan in the recent arthropods of Kaimere videos there was some month ago, he said he had a good place for big bugs in Kaimere, but didn't say much aside that. It isn't, sadly, the good moment yet to see giant arthropods on Kaimere to fill this common and popular fantasy trope. Not before a VERY long time unless someone sponsor an episode on such topic. Before it Keenan have too many others stuff and priorities to do first before going into this theme.

[@ThemagpieBird734]

has there ever been a case of a zentaur deliberatly hunting hrugetaur or vice-versa?

[@TalesofKaimere]

Absolutely, both ways. If one of them is larger, they will prey on the smaller.

[@margchannel7430]

Wow, those are big crocodiles :o

[@thylaconical2840]

Always good to see large crocodilians in the Known World. I'm interested in the idea that young individuals would be most likely to partition niches separate from their adult counterparts, similar to the famous tyrannosaur example. While a number of extant (real) crocodilians start out as insectivores, are there any "extra" stages in the life cycle of these animals that might be worth noting, considering the immense difference in size and therefore available prey to hatchlings vs juveniles vs adults? Apologies for the long comment.

[@TalesofKaimere]

It's definitely something worth exploring! As I mentioned I think in this episode (may have been last week's episode. I studied and wrote them a month ago) Purussaurus at 2 meters was likely still a fast-growing juvenile so I imagine that may have been partially due to trying to get out of the more crowded niche of other 1-3 meter crocs as fast as possible. As hatchlings they almost certainly specialized in insects too, but I imagine the three giants here try to exceed 3-4 meters as fast as possible.

[@loisonnut]

Giant crocs are the hardest species to visualize in my head. It's hard enough to visualize any giant animal without a picture, but the sheer bulk of existing crocs makes it hard to scale them up mentally. Something like the Zhen is just unfathomably large to me. 1. I'm fine with the new design but I can't lie and say I don't miss old Zhen a bit. Are the more striking patterns and quadrupedal stance still possible for the species? 2. It's interesting that Zhen is given "Leviathaniphoneus" given both other crocs seem to go for larger game. We've seen some large fish, but are there any particular titans in the Wetlands? 3. Is the Zhen or Sobek larger? It's hard to eyeball from the pictures. 4. We haven't seen them in a LOONG time, so how do Ba'khar factor into the wetland dynamics? 5. What is the human fisherman opinion of these species from best to worst?

[@TalesofKaimere]

1. A lot of those aspects will be repurposed in Kairulan crocs. The degree of derived traits in the old design don't make sense for something only in Kaimere for 6 million years. Don't pay too much attention to the stance. The reality is the maximum size of all 3 species isn't a posture any of them could maintain on land for long. Possible for all three, but not a regular occurrence. 2. It's a reading of leviathan in the sense of large fish. The zhen is a specialist of large fish, mostly the catfish, arapaima, and others discussed in the river monster episode. 3. Sobek is longer. Zhen has a proportionally longer (though much more narrow) head. 4. They're around. Generally more terrestrial, hunting from the shore. I may make some minor adjustments (longer snout really being the only plan) but otherwise the design remains canon. Mostly just want to remake because the art isn't up to my current standard. 5. Too variable by region to say

[@chancegivens9390]

Very cool beasts! I wonder if the Han Zhu and Hrugetaur could hybridize. I know they're genetically distinct, but that doesn't seem to stop other crocodilians from doing it.

[@TalesofKaimere]

No. Far as I know there aren't even records of hybrids in Crocodylus across the two to three subgenera. The last common ancestor of Han Zhu and Hrugetaur was like 80 million years old. There's been some weird hybrids in captivity so I won't say no 100%, but it certainly wouldn't happen in the wild, and probably isn't even genetically possible.

[@chancegivens9390]

@@TalesofKaimere I figured, but it was still a question worth asking.

[@dudotolivier6363]

@@TalesofKaimere Yep, Sturgeon and Paddlefish hybrids are a real thing, with even THEIR last common ancestor being I think older than the one of Longirostres (Crocodiles/Gharials) and Brevirostres (Alligators/Caimans). Hence why hybrids no more (really) count as clues to defined if a certain animal is an apart species or not. Because two very obvious apart animals can sometimes of babies between them (even if the offsprings are infertiles).

[@chancegivens9390]

@@dudotolivier6363 My point exactly

[@ryanchen1819]

Yes, though those hybrid fish were technically created through artificial means and paddlefish and sturgeon hadn't diverged as much.

[@Nugnugnug]

I'm curious. While Earth is clearly the main source of invasive life on Kimere, are there any other living planets that Kaimeran magic has at least attempted to establish portals on?

[@pangeaman0395]

Well these three are certainly in their finest hour!

[@TalesofKaimere]

Absolutely!

[@tyrannotherium7873]

I think a couple of years back I saw this picture on deviant art years ago back in 2016 I believe 16:53

[@HagdoBr]

Crocodilians will feast whit the dominant live forms in every wolrds. Amazing work, you think to add psedosuchians to Kaimere?

[@transnewt]

is vochek... fully immune to predation? could a kurajaku even pierce him? is he just immortal now?

[@TalesofKaimere]

The largest kurajaku could certainly kill him but hes functionally immune to conventional predation

[@ryanchen1819]

Fact: gharials aren’t exclusive piscivores and are more powerful than some people give them credit for. They would sometimes eat bugs, frogs, and turtles and have decently powerful bites (Crocodilian Bite Forces - FSU Biology - Florida State University). (There are also reports of gharials being tied with tigers in fights (Tiger kills gharial in chitwan national park | Other cases of tiger predation on crocodilians, Crocodiles vs tigers, video compilation & interaction analysis).)

[@TalesofKaimere]

Indeed! Important to keep in mind that even specialists can be more generalized than we might assume. As mentioned in last week's episode, large gharials can even be a threat to children.

[@tyrannotherium7873]

And one of my future animals I was thinking about doing a crocodilian that’s an evolved version of the American alligator and it’s called tyrannosuchus a.k.a. the saltwater alligator. Even though this animal was half terrestrial and half semi aquatic. It was still one of the Apex predators of its time eight hunted, penguins, dolphins, and deer, and so many others on land. It was the Apex predator, but in the water it’s competition what is a giant whale which is the evolved version of a killer whale but it’s a solitary animal also a tyrannosuchus would be around 30 to 40 feet long and it would have a saltwater crocodile like coloring, but the sound of an American alligator

[@samuelscott-schroeder8597]

Ok, so over the weekend, I was contemplating the evolutionary history and diversity of my quadrupedal theropod idea. Long story short, arboreal specializations has lead to the creation of one side branch I dare not describe yet, not until I have a working cladogram. Your loyal subscriber, Sam. P.S. Know any good papers on theropod forelimb muscle structure?

[@TalesofKaimere]

Sounds cool! Off the top of my head I know there's are two studies, one on Dilophosaurus and the other on Australovenator, which from what I remember do a lot of discussion on arm musculature and flexibility. Henry Sharpe and Matt Dempsey are both paleoartists who do a lot of anatomical studies and if you have a Twitter account I highly recommend you follow them!

[@samuelscott-schroeder8597]

@@TalesofKaimere Thank you, I’ll be sure to look for them.

[@dudotolivier6363]

Sound a good idea to made quadrupedal theropod or quadrupedal carnivorous true dinosaurs. Animal living in trees have all long and equally sized limbs, so it's made sense as an adaptation. And then, by becoming terrestrial again, it would lead to creatures similar to the ones see in the movie 65 (see giving rise to 65's Fasolasuchus giant apex predator like species).

[@samuelscott-schroeder8597]

@@dudotolivier6363 That monstrosity is over 20 meters long and more than 6 meters tall. Let’s not get too carried away, I imagine the largest any member of this clade getting is 13-14 meters in rare instances. More often 10-12 meters if the individual eats well throughout its life. Good point on tree living animals, it also helps with pronation of the wrist, at least in this instance.

[@nikolajilic2479]

ima be real, with the ammount of dangerous stuff on kaimere it might as well be australia if it was an entire planet

[@IanPendleton-gh6ox]

Kaimere as a whole would put even Ice Age Australia to shame.

[@Tyrannmon]

Ya it makes skull island cry its self to sleep at night .

[@GreatAukEntertainment]

Steve Irwin would have a grand ol time with these lads!

[@Train_lizard]

Do you think Zhen would be a good replacement if Rudolph ever had to retire?

[@TalesofKaimere]

With a bit of magic I'm sure it could glow lol

[@InnahaNyellaV]

Question: 1. Who is bigger sarcosuchus or the zhen 2. Are the giraffoids in Kairul still canon and if so are they extinct or still thriving 3. During the lepticipted episode you claimed that the recollection of mammals during the Tyrant Dynasty could have been harvested far earlier during the eocene, so have oreodonts ever been harvested in Kaimere?

[@TalesofKaimere]

1. Zhen. 2. Yes. 3. If so there are no living descendants in the known world. Not sure about other regions.

[@laseriedeladilophosaure9246]

En réalité je pense que la différence male , femelle serait moin différente chez le han zhu car cette espèce est beaucoup plus terrestre que les autre de plus la taille est une arme importante contre des prédateurs

[@Dinoramascuplts-Tyrex]

Han Zhu basically said : u know what! I’m tired of his crap-looks at hippo- how you like dis huh?- becomes hippo croc-: Kaimere 😦✌️ 🫥✌️ __

[@laseriedeladilophosaure9246]

3:55 je ne sais pas pourquoi mais la femelle a l'air beaucoup trop petit car la différence de taille entre le plus mâle et un femelle de taille moyenne est exagéré de plus chez le crocodile du nil par exemple la différence mâle et femelle en moyenne n’est pas aussi importante que chez le zénith car un mâle crocodile du nil en moyenne mesure 4.2 m contre 2.5 - 3.8 m pour les femelle et aussi il est important de noter qu’il existe aussi des taille extrême chez les femelle il est donc possible que si le plus grand crocodile nil mâle mesure 6.5 m probablement la plus grande femelle crocodile du nil mesure un peu plus de 4 m de longueur. Je dis cela car la femelle zhen mesure 6 - 7 m de longueur se qui signifie qu'elle est environ 2 fois plus petit que les mâle de grande taille

[@soudino2723]

Can purrasaurus potentially kill large titanosaurs if they try crossing a lake?

[@TalesofKaimere]

The largest ones like Vochek might try, but probably not. Best to stick to titans in their own weight class.

[@sharkhorse24-44]

its bullet proof, but is it fore bore proof?

[@TalesofKaimere]

haha it's not even entirely bulletproof for a standard rifle, just often able to deflect. A 4-bore is definitely penetrating unless you're far off and hit at a bad angle, and even then it's still likely to deal some nasty damage even with a glancing hit

[@datpolakmike]

"next episode, kaimeran 'Gator boys' who specialize in hunting pseudosuchians to sell their hide and bush meat"

[@mr.maip_macrothorax]

Aaaw man none of the rausuchians survived 😢😢 bro I love them so much! Did any Triassic families survive into modern times?

[@TalesofKaimere]

There were no Triassic harvests so unfortunately no clades that perished at the end of the Triassic made it to Kaimere

[@pyroraptor478]

Can you come with tips of naming imaginative animals and creatures alike? since i inspires me to make my own worldbuilding for Spec Evo project/dnd campaign

[@TalesofKaimere]

If you have bananagrams or scrabble, taking some random letters and assembling a speakable word from them is my go-to. Kaimere was the result of this method.

[@leoornstein3963]

I must hold back on the alligator joke…

[@seanessdracosaurus2793]

Awesome

[@lordcrusheryt]

Kaimere ark mod when?

[@Lurtz848]

given that the Zhen can also be found in the seas, if they have the opportunity, will they also feed on large sharks?

[@TalesofKaimere]

Yes

[@matteorossi8240]

Why bull zhens have a red noses? Display feature?

[@TalesofKaimere]

Yup!

[@DivyanshGoswami-tg8ti]

Are there any humenculai plant that eat humans

[@Dodo-x3g]

Seems like deinosuchus had no success on kaimere

[@TalesofKaimere]

If they did, it wasn’t for long

[@justinianthegreat1444]

Has there ever been an Uktan that became a victim of these crocodilians?

[@TalesofKaimere]

Absolutely

[@justinianthegreat1444]

@@TalesofKaimere would be amazing if we see some art of an adult uktan getting murked by a giant croc.

[@bartekdraszawk4315]

In the epsiode about western arvel you mentioned that the western saltwater crocodlie is not even in the top 5 largest crocs in kaimere, and today you showed 3 of them, so are there 2 giant crocs in kairul or somewhere beyond the known world?

[@TalesofKaimere]

There are indeed two species in Kairul bigger than salties, though the zhen is larger than they are.

[@bartekdraszawk4315]

@@TalesofKaimere have we seen them yet or are they not finalized?

[@TalesofKaimere]

@@bartekdraszawk4315 I've not designed either and I don't think I've said anything public about either

[@thespecialedwards2133]

2 things, whens the pachycephalasaur episode? Youve mentioned them and drawn art work of them probably the most for a species that doesnt have a video yet Also Youve mentioned kaimer is somehow larger yet with almost identical gravity to earth, does this mean kaimer is really cavernous and porous with a ton of large underground areas or is there a magic reason?

[@TalesofKaimere]

1. Pachycephalosaur episode hasn't gotten a sponsor. I've drawn several taxa after getting a paleo art commission, but no sponsor or episode planned yet! 2. Magic is not a factor. A planet's gravity equals mass divided by radius squared. The radius of the planet is pretty well understood by the Assembly, being roughly 1.5-1.6x that of Earth. The mass of the planet is assumed to be roughly 2.5-3x that of Earth. Assumed, not confirmed as the Assembly doesn't have the reliable means to do so. If we assume mass is 2.7 and divide that by the radius of 1.6 squared, we get a gravity comparable to that of Earth. The Assembly doesn't know the mass so can't confirm, but since the gravity of Kaimere is very close to Earth, and they have fairly reliable estimates of the radius, they can infer the planet mass is approximately 2.7x the mass of Earth. The assumption is that a more substantial silicate mantle could account for the lower density compared to Earth (the iron core is much denser so if there's proportionally more silicate than iron, it would have lower density), but there are other proposed factors. Using square cube law, a planet with 1.5-1.6x Earth radius should be around 3-3.5x its mass. We can infer that Kaimere is therefore of lower density than Earth, and it could simply be a matter of a proportionally less iron content in its core. Kaimere still has polar magnetism and an analogously dense atmosphere so there's certainly iron in its core, but may simply be less compared to the core of our planet. Iron is still found in Kaimere (lots of steel weapons for example) but the high volcanism in the known world may well account for a lot of these deposits and it's possible it's not as abundant elsewhere as a result of less in the planet overall. From a meta perspective: this is all stuff I worked out over a decade ago with a friend whose passion was this aspect of physics and astronomy. He told me I shouldn't go above 1.6 earth radius and to keep the density low to make sure the gravity is comparable and I've stuck to that. Someday I do plan on going back, reviewing the math, but I don't plan on ever publishing official numbers. The Assembly doesn't know and I like maintaining that perspective in the videos.

[@NP3GA]

Even more crokies

[@junotus198]

Crocodiles take to kaimere as well as the leopard did!!

[@My_Favorite_GOATS]

CROCS! GATORS! CAIMAN! Do you have a favorite crocodilian?

[@TalesofKaimere]

I do! It may be boring, but it's the American alligator. I have a lot of fond memories and interactions with the species in my childhood. Learned a lot about appreciating nature at a respectful distance.

[@Shqiponjëland]

@@TalesofKaimere mine is the cuban crocodile (though my favoutite crocodilomorph is kaprosuchus, its also my favourite animal ever)

[@francogiobbimontesanti3826]

Do you have plans of selling any merch?

[@TalesofKaimere]

None yet but I hope to someday! At present it's more effort than it would sell if I do it myself, but I may look into other platforms for assistance of storage and distribution. Also, if I end up getting traditionally published, merchandising rights would be a lot easier to work out if I haven't already got distribution.

[@lorcanmcloughlin3686]

Question do you play path of titans? You whoud love the crocodile species in it if you need someone to help you grown im usually on the arazoa server's

[@TalesofKaimere]

Video games have never particularly appealed to me to play, but I do enjoy watching plays from time to time.

[@dudotolivier6363]

Keenan haven't time to even play games. Aside some days within a week dedicated to its family and personnal hobbies, most of its time is either for making videos for Kaimere or writting his books.

[@lorcanmcloughlin3686]

@@TalesofKaimere understandable path of titans is a interesting one anyway most of the mods are pretty acurate

[@SanderVF]

What does “Taur” mean in the language of the area in Arvel where Zentaur and Hrugetaur live?

[@TalesofKaimere]

And qotaur/kasktaur. It translates to 'big reptile'.

[@SanderVF]

@@TalesofKaimereso people around those parts don’t see Zentaur as a bird (or “feathered creature”) just because it has feathers, but perceive it as more reptilian?

[@dudotolivier6363]

@@TalesofKaimere So the kaimeran analog word for Dinosaur would be something with "-Taur" as its main component. If not maybe even -Taur itself being sufficient, as Dinosaur litterally mean itself just "Big Reptiles". If the Dinosauria clade was coined in Kaimere, it's would likely so be like "Tauria", and dinosaurs being call just Taurs or Taurian. This word give really a weird note/result when we think about it, but at the end, it's quite fitting in plenty of ways for Kaimere as a setting.

[@TalesofKaimere]

@@dudotolivier6363 It is worth mentioning this is the common northern Arvelith word for them. The common tongue has such words as dord/drud and kan as some generic dinosaur terms. The Assembly uses the Arvelith word for zentaur as it is the word most often used for the animal where the animal is most abundant, but it's not the word for the animal in the common tongue. It's similar to how in American English we often call Cervus canadensis the elk, but books trying to be more specific to a region and its indigenous peoples call them wapiti.

[@Tyrannmon]

Just imagine the species if skull island getting stuck in kaimere . Wuth how small they are compared to kaimere species and weaker than the Kaimere species .

[@liambrandley2716]

Are there even larger crocodilians beyond the kown world?

[@TalesofKaimere]

Kairul has several alligatoroids in the same size range. Certainly as big as the Han Zhu, but probably not bigger than the zhen. At the end of the day, the part of the portal's work is enhancing the productivity of its territory. Not dramatically so, but enough that these giants have a slightly greater chance of increasing their potential.

[@Taste-k7q]

Cue Crocodile Cacophony

[@Stooltoad5017]

Croc month!

[@TalesofKaimere]

Let's go!!!

[@maozilla9149]

nice

[@praetorianrex5571]

Question: if you happen to know what Gnosticism is, you think it can be applied to xeno fiction of sophont species?

[@TalesofKaimere]

Isn't gnosticism the believe that Old and New Testament God represent different entities? If so I don't really understand the question.

[@praetorianrex5571]

@@TalesofKaimere well, I meant the idea that your "creator" or "rightful rulers" aren't who they seem to be and/or getting into trouble for knowing something you shouldn't. Or perhaps, overcoming the limitations placed upon your kind by a seemingly higher power to achieve more.

[@praetorianrex5571]

For example, a members of a sophont species finding out that their kind is bio engineered, thus need to figure out how to overcome the contingencies set in place by their creators to take care of a crisis.

[@TalesofKaimere]

@@praetorianrex5571 Oh I see! Well I expect the struggles of the homunculi would fit well with that. According to records of their time, once they gained freewill, they rebelled against their creators.

[@praetorianrex5571]

@@TalesofKaimere I'd imagine rebellion would especially be prevalent if the intentions for their creation are less than noble or goes against what they fight for.

[@luizgustavoalvessantos8728]

It's certainly not a good idea to bathe in the river in this world...

[@TalesofKaimere]

Honestly the potential parasites common in tropical waters are way more concerning to me personally than these guys. At least a 10 ton croc is taking me out quick lol

[@aizaratem]

​@@TalesofKaimereinfections and parasites of kaimere ? :0 a magic enhanced virus or bacteria would be something horrible to even think about

[@chrismaticwolf3780]

BIG ❤❤❤❤❤ SCALY ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ STRONG ❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@TalesofKaimere]

Peak build

[@udaychhetri1963]

Wen dragon invade the mainland ❤❤❤

[@udaychhetri1963]

The dragons can kill a the titanosaur ❤

[@extraordinarytv5451]

Please don't tell me Han Zhu is a Caiman bro😅😭

[@TalesofKaimere]

It is not! It's an alligatoroid, so came to Kaimere before caiman and alligators themselves branched.

[@extraordinarytv5451]

@@TalesofKaimere YES! I don't have to go back to the drawing board with that one! Seriously tho I'm pretty sure we like all the same things bc every new video that comes out I have to go back and edit and old design😭

[@praetorianrex5571]

What qualities would make some animals good for cannon fodder/foot soldiers other than being an invasive species and fast reproduction?

[@wildtoonproductions4427]

It here

[@wildtoonproductions4427]

I have to say this: you have helped me learn about animals, ecology, and so much about the natural world, and it is interesting to learn more about animals of kaimere and it help me to make my spec evo project nitro evo despite the fact I haven't started it yet but I think should start now or maybe after learning to make the animals plausible, making the world and learn how to a compelling story and engaging characters

[@cladoselache8766]

Do these guys eat clocks?

[@TalesofKaimere]

Only if they think they're about to get the rest of a pirate first

[@dudotolivier6363]

@@TalesofKaimere Given Kaimere have actuals pirates and criminals out on the seas, that is already chances that even happen (if kaimeran have clocks which I don't think they have yet in their pre-industrial civilisation). Hope one days we get into the domain of police, autorithy and rules, and stuff regarding criminality in kaimeran culture one day. As maybe kaimeran due to their long age put as posible efforts to avoid wars and promote peaces, criminality still present here and here.

[@elshebactm6769]

🗿👍

[@eclipsedwyvern729]

68 views in 4 minutes....fell off

[@brendond747]

Get a better mic dude its 2024

[@TalesofKaimere]

Lol I got a Yeti it’s pretty good. Not much I can do living off a main road. Not out here making sound studio money