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[@interestedparty00]

That cop is quite obviously corrupt AF.

[@BrolandMeeces]

I don't know what state this is in. here in Texas if you make any improvements on another person's property you do not have the right to remove the material.

[@peacepoet1947]

My employer had a house that he rented on a cul de sac, which had been redone and driveways put in. One day, a neighbor had a survey done, and the boundary line was not where it should be. The house is owned by a Polish guy, and the neighbors were using it as a drug house for dealing meth. The house was vandalized, and I was hired to rebuild it. The contractors didn't notify the city about the charges before the driveways were built. The neighbor destroyed the slab that the garage and workshop sat upon after removing the supports underneath the building and pushing the building onto the driveway. My employer had to go to court to get his property back and won in court.

[@roomwithapointofview]

Immediately write a bill for storage on their property at $1000/day.

[@priestessofkek2406]

I have had a septic tank put in. You are paying for the tank, the materials to properly install the tank, and the labor. The contractor brings more than enough gravel, sand etc to complete the job. If there is no gravel missing from his install, then the extra on her driveway was never his.

[@Austin-co1zt]

Cop: I'm not going to weigh in on property disputes. THEN F--K OFF AND LEAVE ME ALONE!!!

[@thesuperdingos]

EXACTLY! He should not even be there

[@flacarpetracer]

ABSOLUTELY !

[@KevinSmith-tj3jo]

Not at all. People need the police to go around and around about trvial issues. This is exactly what we pay them to do. We pay them to waste our time and argue with us when they have no stake in the claim.

[@Zagroseckt]

@@KevinSmith-tj3jo In a situation like this there suposed to let it be handled by civial prosedings .. BUT there allso suposed to take the report for records (Report = comoplant and info of the complaner. A Request talk with the other side to get there end of the story IF they want to give it. At no time should an id be demanded of party B and if refused just write down refused id but i think this person is xxx and close out the report (in a perfict world body cam whould be on both times and the file attached to the report so exact conversation can ge gotten) no arresrts it's in the courts hands.

[@Poppagee69]

You know that just triggers the opposite

[@cyclopticclaybuster]

These cops are CLEARLY helping out a close friend or family members. Crystal clear.

[@justicefor-all3129]

Absolutely! No question at all.

[@zippythinginvention]

Definitely.

[@Poppagee69]

Cops think they are God and own the world and are the arbiters of everything

[@jewsco]

definitely

[@j0hnnykn0xv1lle]

Corruption clear as day.

[@deanmartin6052]

This woman makes absolute perfect sense, whereas the cop has the mentality of a simpleton.

[@jordanremington]

I mean... He is a cop. You have to be a pretty simple dude/dudette to become a cop. ACAB.

[@zippythinginvention]

He's protecting the other party. Why?

[@jeffhatmaker817]

Agree. Sheesh.

[@skinnysim]

simpleton you are too kind, effing idiot is more fitting.

[@Poppagee69]

The badge has inflated their egos so bad that instead of doing their actual job they have taken it upon themselves to start playing God , Judge , Lawyer , Land Surveyor , Doctor , Paramedic , Police Officer , Teacher , Tyrant , God , Devil , Owner of Everything.....

[@user-on9yz2wz9q]

The lady is being clear but repeating the same 10 lines over and over to an idiot cop and getting the same 10 responses back is PURE INSANITY.

[@jordan9604]

Even worse, this offcer wants to arrest this woman. He is a coward.

[@davidgodfrey9780]

She's stuck in a Fallout dialog loop

[@Strideo1]

"But if it's their muhterial . . . But if it's their muhterial. But if it's their muhterial! But if it's their muhterial . . ." This cop is a dumb ass. It would only be the neighbor's material if the contractor charged them for a pile of gravel that wasn't included in the job and didn't give it to them which was clearly not the case.

[@mccask]

Why do the police keep insisting one neighbor is right and the other wrong? Let civil court decide and stay out of it!

[@JesusH.Tap-Dancingchrist7328]

Chumocracy

[@HutchDudandy1]

My guess is they one they are siding with is friends of someone in the department.

[@kevgray.]

In the last video he did it seems as if the cops are acquainted with the neighbours Friends or friends of friends that sort of thing

[@Nexesys]

Sounds like the cops favor the other neighbor and is trying to intimidate these people.

[@JoseBloodthurst]

Because cops have a low IQ.

[@oodoodoopoopoo]

I'm at the 5:45 mark and have easily determined that the officer is dumber than the gravel.

[@fedupinOhio]

And much less useful.

[@dannydopamine2744]

That's pretty harsh....atleast the gravel serves a purpose 😅

[@sashasmusic2463]

i'm in shock.

[@_DMAC]

My thoughts as well. The cop is clearly dumber than the pile of gravel.

[@_DMAC]

​@@dannydopamine2744😂😂😂

[@kevinsargent]

They illegally dumped material on your land. You have to leave it there forever or you're stealing. Brilliant cops.

[@HiltonHoskins]

If they leave it on your property and do not remove it after being told to do so, it becomes your property. Why is it so hard for this cop to understand?

[@gr33dyglutton]

He said he doesn't get involved in civil matters but for him to charge them with theft it requires him to make the assumption that it's the other family's land. Otherwise it would be exactly that, illegal dumping.

[@mikeallison5549]

So if I pay someone to place a large sign advertising this Lackluster video on this cops property front and center of his yard without his permission, then if he moves it without my permission, I can charge him with theft if he moves it?!?

[@fxrsniper1]

@@mikeallison5549 no

[@fxrsniper1]

@@mikeallison5549 that would be trespassing and destruction of private property you could go to jail

[@michelle5501]

You can't argue with stupid, and this cop is great example of being thick headed

[@kuwabaragriffin5429]

I think saying, "but your okay with bothering us at 930 on a saturday" is a perfectly reasonable question

[@DontbeanNPC]

*you're

[@robertsilveus3071]

​@@DontbeanNPCCALL RICK.

[@Poppagee69]

Professional harassment agency worse than door to door or telephone solicitors and 10X more intrusive

[@wiggy8912]

@@robertsilveus3071😂 well played.

[@thebullgator]

If the issue is serious enough to show at their house at 9:30 it’s serious enough to wake up Rick. This cop didn’t like getting owned so hard.

[@kyle2]

This poor woman is stuck in crazy land. My heart goes out to her. She is perfectly clear and in the right.

[@cplson2706]

Agreed.

[@mr.duanesharpe]

Ever seen the trench wars? Seems like it. Fighting over inches of land to win. Ridiculous

[@professorvoluck9311]

I think she has an unhealthy obsession with her property. Most neighbors would leave it alone to keep the peace. We ‘re talking about a few feet of land. She moved the gravel just to be irritating.

[@Kelley-v7v]

@@professorvoluck9311 No, it was all about the lawn mower throwing it.

[@kyle2]

@@professorvoluck9311 leave what alone? The gravel??? It's a hazard. Why would someone have to leave something alone that was dumped on their land to keep peace? That's the crazy land part!

[@user-ly4ko3sf3s]

Call the cops over 10 bucks worth of gravel, The cops seem to be in the corner of the idiot Neighbour's because they have connections with someone important.

[@Poppagee69]

Cop is there trying his hardest to make a small problem bigger , they gravel the guy spread was as a good gesture for the mistake but the cop wants to be an Indian giver and cause unneed sh/t

[@scottzehrung4829]

What seems to be trivial idle rich issues along waterfront properties.

[@Kelley-v7v]

@@scottzehrung4829 Yeah, except that I'm getting charged with criminal trespass and criminal theft. And they are rich.

[@scottzehrung4829]

@@Kelley-v7v I’m so sorry to hear that. I had a similar issue with a neighbor who was granted an ingress/egress easement that aligned with a 8” utility easement. I put thousands on dollars of gravel down when I fenced off the 330” to prevent drainage issues from my horses. Years later they put down a single load where they did a right turn from the road and later accused me of using some of that gravel. It got to the point where I threatened to remove “their improvements” and return the land to documented pre developed conditions. We never spoke again until they sold five years later. This was in AZ.

[@gr33dyglutton]

The one who calls the cops seems to make a big difference to the cops, when it could go either way they always seem to take the side of who called them. The cop calls it theft, it could easily be called illegal dumping too.

[@tracycottrell5146]

This cop is beyond rediculous. He says he has no dog in the fight.Except for he acts like the dog in the fight

[@arthurneddysmith]

*ridiculous, but you're right. Every time she makes a claim, the cop says "oh, that's civil," while literally threatening her with criminal prosecution over the EXACT same issue.

[@wesinbama]

He should have stayed out of it. This is obviously a civil dispute, not a criminal one. Let the contractor hire an attorney like the rest of us.

[@83Goldwinger]

For a cop who doesn’t want to inject himself into a property dispute, he has done the exact opposite.

[@ah92vi]

Exactly! Who owns the stone literally boils down to property ownership, it was left on their property which nobody intended to move meaning it now belongs to them. Simple.

[@horspla2000]

Agreed. When he said "I don't have a dog in this fight" AFTER arguing over and over for the other side, it's VERY clear that he DOES.

[@sulynn72]

Cops have no jurisdiction with personal property, so why is he even there.

[@sulynn72]

​@@horspla2000he thought hed scare her because he's aa big bad cop😂

[@Strideo1]

He clearly just wants to harass this lady on behalf of the neighbor.

[@jasonpwnd]

So if I dump a truckload of bull shit on your front lawn, that’s MY property and YOU can’t move it. That’s the logic here.

[@thanatos6902]

yea but I claim the front lawn as my own so it's a civil dispute and it's for a project that I already completed so you can't move it until a judge says so

[@87swoo44]

Yea but the contractor said he cleaned it up to the degree he was gona. Meaning the owner 1 got what they paid for and what the contractor left on owner 2s land was now owner 2s, unless the contractor was comming back to remove it further. Essentially saying the contractor gave owner 2 some free gravel as an apology for dumping on their land. And if owner 1 thinks they didnt get the full tonnage thats between them and the contractor. Not owner 1 and 2.

[@RealityBytesBack]

@@thanatos6902 The point Jason is making is why would you claim the front yard as yours, if BOTH surveyors have already determined it's not yours? If this idiotic cop if the cop is going to make a determination, he should've looked at all the evidence the reasonable neighbors he's talking to, wanted to show him. Including the video and survey that deems so.

[@urgreatestenemy3044]

The problem I see is the neighbors property may be landlocked and this is why they are forced to use her driveway to access their land in that case, they may have an agreement with the previous owner and the driveway was setup as an easement where she owns the driveway they are allowed to use it under the previous owners agreement. Because the material was dumped on the easement, it was technically on her property but it could be a shared easement between them, and that could complicate the matter. In that case, she would be in the wrong to move the rock as where she owns the land, the neighbors have a right to cross or otherwise use her land for a specified purpose. Because the rock was the neighbors and placed on the easement, they had a right to use her land. If she didn't want the rock there, she should have made the contractor completely remove it or talked to the neighbors and made them remove it, instead of taking it and using it elsewhere. I understand her side and believe the contractor is mainly at fault but she really had no rights to the rock as she didn't pay for it, and it was potentially on an easement and they had a non possessory right to use the land because it was shared land between both parties in a previous owner's agreement.

[@jasonpwnd]

@@urgreatestenemy3044 that’s a lot of presumption though

[@anonymouse14]

Wow, this cop is literally too stupid to insult.

[@MegaFakedude]

Well said.

[@FelixxileF1990]

Yes! I wanted to insult him so bad, yet the stupidity was contagious or something, and my mind would just get overwhelmed when I would try to think of a comment.

[@melodyharpole8272]

It's not his fault he was born with a single digit IQ. But it is his fault that knowing he has a single digit iq, he chose to be a police officer. Somewhere there's a McDonald's needing a fry cook.

[@TheCableStrain]

He definitely has an undiagnosed mental disability.

[@NG-cf7zh]

He’s not stupid, just evil, he understands the situation

[@charleshodge1873]

This cop had already made up his mind before badgering these people. WTF is he even doing there?

[@mcreason1]

not withstanding the cops behavior, a better question is why are people literally like this to begin with? Like people just being nasty neighbors for no reason.

[@Kelley-v7v]

@@mcreason1 Yeah, not us...the other ones.

[@deejayRavien]

@charleshodge1873 he was called, because his neighbors decided to be petty and move some pebbles. All I can say is I'm glad I don't live next to either.

[@Kelley-v7v]

@@deejayRavien I did not move the stone to be petty. I had no idea they even knew the contractor had accidentally dumped the on my property. I am glad that you don't live here too.

[@sulynn72]

He has no jurisdiction, so you're right, why is he there. I think that would have been my first question

[@user-nr2wb9ki5l]

Cop is wrong to say that if Rick paid for the gravel he voluntarily left on her property then it belongs to Rick. Rick gave her that gravel. He or his contractor spread it out with the intent it would remain there indefinitely. It was a completed gift. Thereafter it was hers to do with as she liked. Cop is practicing law without a license. This cop is very low down on the intelligence curve.

[@helghallen]

I knew it should be the lady's gravel, but couldn't figure out the right way to explain it. Thank you for this. It's what I was trying to think through.

[@frotobaggins7169]

Exactly. So simple.

[@user-nr2wb9ki5l]

@@helghallen It's like a bar exam question. Lol. His contractor damaged her property. Rick promised to repair the damage but did a poor job. She could have rejected the repair and told Rick to remove the gravel and do it right, or pay her to have someone else do it. Instead she elected to accept the repair, including the materials, and do it right herself, which was her prerogative. Rick isn't entitled to both get the gravel back and not compensate her for her efforts to repair the damage his contractor caused.

[@helghallen]

@@user-nr2wb9ki5l sort of. I think it's more. He is giving her the remaining gravel out of his own pocket. And getting more to replace what he needs for the job in question.

[@monotremata9892]

Low ? That is very very generous .

[@grumpus5248]

"I'm not going to weigh into the property dispute"...but HE CONTINUES WEIGHING IN ON IT IMMEDIATELY AFTER

[@Maynard-il1yj]

Lol

[@torreydavis6590]

The mental gymnastics required to blame these folks for stealing $10 of stone is wild.

[@user-bf8tv8xv4w]

Exactly what I was thinking. That amount of stone is worth next to nothing. Rick calls the cops and they come out and bother them at 9 at night, but they don't want to bother Rick at night, and the cop calls these guys unreasonable? He must be mates with Rick.

[@timbourque5095]

Someone wants something ? Someone with some pull and or power, freemason's someone in local government that has power or maybe within the police station themselves but they would need to be backed up by someone like the judges and so on, my first guess is someone may want their house and property .

[@wallebo]

This cop had his mind made up before he got out of the car.

[@buckeyenative1365]

Cop needs to call Rick and ask if he took the cost of the wrongly dumped stone off his customer's bill. If yes, then the stone doesn't belong to the problem neighbors and can stay where it is unless Rick wants to come get it, IMO.

[@k8schu102]

How is Rick going to decide which exact pebble is his or hers? Isn’t possession 9/10th’s of the law? 🙄

[@brucer.5403]

They are gaslighting her when she makes perfect sense.

[@the_desert_dweller]

for being a civil issue, these cops sure did insert themselves like it was criminal.

[@I.____.....__...__]

Didn't you seem him drool at the thought of a judge ruling on the property lines so that it can "become a criminal trespass"? 🤨 That was him creaming himself at the thought of finally getting the authority to GET TO arrest someone. Also, you saw how she asked if she can just move it WITHOUT getting a BS charge for "theft" and he said no because he thought she won't call for two months as if he'd just sit around and wait instead of checking every two hours. 😒

[@jaredrobbins9247]

It should be a crime for the cops to involve themselves this heavily

[@kikastra]

They can't seem to help themselves can they.

[@skyman6936]

The cops have the listening skills of a teenager. He can stay silent while she talks, but he just repeats the same talking points from the beginning

[@nashntth]

So, according to the police force officer, I can have a dump truck of gravel dumped on his property and come and get it when I need it? This makes no sense

[@citizensunitednegatingtech9783]

new internet challenge

[@mikeallison5549]

I’m thinking of a sign advertising this video

[@Timbermonkey360-em4th]

It sounds like that's actually what he thinks can happen.. how stupid is that?

[@RealityBytesBack]

At least Gravel serves a lot more purpose than this cop does.

[@wiggy8912]

This cop is absolutely daft. There are literally 2 minutes of words being spoken, just repeated 50 times.

[@DOLfirst]

Ikr! It is absolutely frustrating.

[@Kelley-v7v]

Yup

[@vintagestufflover7020]

It is so simple, yet the cop can't seem to grasp the simplicity of it all. Rick dumped the rock at the end of the driveway after the job was done to restore the driveway. If that rock was the property of the neighbor then RICK should just reimburse the rock to the neighbor. Kelly explained it so clearly yet the cop cannot grasp what he has been told. God, this cop is a fool!

[@Kelley-v7v]

@@vintagestufflover7020 Yes, he is an arrogant fool.

[@vjcodec]

But in the end it’s the material! And we have to ask Rick about but I believe Rick 100%

[@karugumureithi3988]

Let them charge you with theft. You charge them with illegal dumping, tresspqssing and charge storage fee per day. Such a ridiculous case.

[@FeelingPeculiar]

This department is so unbelievably incompetent

[@caniacstevehenderson7115]

Agreed completely

[@Dan-yk6sy]

No, they are friends with the complaining karen other homeowner and being regular old corrupt criminal cops.

[@Rooln1]

Sadly, you could probably make that exact statement for almost every department in the country

[@joearnold5836]

This department is absolutely freaking astounding. What a joke. *Over a wheel barrow of gravel.* Lmao. Do they only accept officers with an IQ of 69 or lower, because I'm seriously getting those vibes here.

[@icestormqueen]

Yep. It was abandoned property

[@reclusiarchnotrobsimmons]

Cop: “I dont want to bother them at 9pm on a Saturday night” Lady: “But you’re fine with bothering us?”

[@I.____.....__...__]

You forgot the part where he threw up his hands and got mad and said "I'm done with this". He even admitted that he "needs to talk to Rick" but then refused to actually do so and instead insisted on continuing to make ASSUMPTIONS, you know, like that the neighbors were even billed for the excess gravel at all. He kept ASSUMING They paid for it, but maybe Rick only billed them for what was used. But to find out, he has to CALL RICK (and check the invoices). 😒

[@roguetaxidermist3969]

yOu'Re cLeArLy nOt vErY rEaSoNaBle

[@endemion06463]

@@I.____.....__...__ I wouldn't mind seeing the records of the cop talking to this Rick guy.

[@gregkasza1925]

Yeah, that told me everything I needed to know to shut my mouth and walk away. Never speak to police outside of the courtroom.

[@mumap5]

@@endemion06463 If I were her, I would have called Rick right then and there.

[@DIYAllied]

Thank god she didn't have a pot of water

[@kennygregrich5375]

Exactly

[@DWeezy62]

No shit, or an acorn falling.

[@ORam...]

Too soon.

[@stevedavies1226]

What that p*g did to that poor lady in her own home is beyond disgusting

[@DIYAllied]

@@ORam... or a fake 20 dollar bill

[@teridoster5840]

Those neighbors sound absolutely insufferable, as well as that idiot cop

[@JimMcnevin]

NEIGHBOURS ARE BAD COP IS WORSE THAN BAD !!!

[@vivianpatton5692]

OMG , this cop is NEVER going to understand it. AGAIN they ONLY believe ' the CALLER'.

[@marcusbaker3517]

All the time

[@LeoGirl0727]

I think these cops have a personal relationship with the neighbor, who they keep referring to as Rick. They immediately side with them every time and don't care to actually investigate. This cop is NOT LISTENING!

[@matthewsims4457]

"We got a call...'so we will disregard your 1st Amendment and 4th Amendment rights...because, we realize all callers are always 100% right'"! (sarcasm intended). These two cops have to be two of the most unreasonable, non-sensible, and ignorant cops I've ever seen. What a shit-show...and it's very sad.

[@vivianpatton5692]

@@LeoGirl0727 It does really seem like these cops DO have Something going on with their neighbors. WHEN do they Ever LISTEN ?

[@doctorseuss5349]

That conversation was exhausting. Is Rick affiliated with the cops?

[@J.dUb.]

Two things. A. This cop is NOT listening. B. The neighbors HAVE to know someone who works at the PD or they donate boo-koo money to the PD.

[@utubepunk]

Boo-koo!

[@chrishohn1384]

That cop is listening!

[@hpoonis2010]

beaucoup

[@robertsparling]

boo-koo? beaucoup

[@utubepunk]

@@robertsparling bew kew!

[@clinthall1127]

If I, as a contractor, put material that was owed to a client for a project in the wrong place, & that material is unrecoverable, it's on me, as the contractor, to replace it to the client. This woman isn't on the hook for anything.

[@jeremykothe2847]

Also if I pay for a project, and there is "leftover material", that belongs the contractor, not me. The project is finished. They brought extra, I don't own that.

[@75silverfish]

@@jeremykothe2847 Depends if by paying for the project, materials are included in that, or just by the job. Otherwise it can go both ways.

[@jeremykothe2847]

@@75silverfish I get it. It seems clear in this case that the contractor felt these were "his" leftovers, not something belonging to the customer. I'm fairly confident in assuming that the contract, whatever it was, didn't include the ownership of these leftovers. And if it did? That's on the contractor, not on the person whose property they were smoothed over on and made a part of.

[@notoriousbid3169]

They materials left on the wrong property ARE recoverable... At the discretion of the property owner... For someone who says it has to be settled in Court, he should leave and stop trying to mediate and give advice!! It's NOT the cop's job to give legal advice!! Cops are NOT geniuses who couldn't find better jobs!! It's NOT going to be resolved tonight... Just go in the house and stop talking to this dunce cap!!

[@nathanchapman223]

Absolutely correct.

[@theDavid_B]

This Cops SO bad that the body cam footage is from the citizens personal body cam when dealing with these knuckleheads.

[@Kelley-v7v]

Yes, the citizens have to wear body cameras in Oakland!

[@WApnj]

OMG this is painful to listen to. That cop is as dense as the rocks involved.

[@Apaa.Dawggg]

The rocks are more useful than this cop 100%

[@Joseph-ut4ui]

Absolutely no sense in arguing with a cop who has already decided you are wrong.

[@wedreamtogether]

This is absolutely insane. Having bad neighbors is one thing, but having incompetent police taking the neighbors side must be maddening.

[@sulynn72]

I'd move and pray they'd get the neighbors from hell

[@TheJocke92]

I would sue the neighbors for trespassing, property damage, and lying to the police for all events.

[@Crime_Time3x]

You're in contact with her? Tell her to Stop talking to the Police.

[@Poppagee69]

Talking to police is not an err , answering their questions is , that is just ammo for them to use against you . I just answer them with questions , it pisses them off and they just back off in frustration

[@4runit654]

Yes!!!!

[@4runit654]

​@@Poppagee69In these 2 cases, talking to the cops has proved worthless. The cops arent smart enough to comprehend

[@SylvanasWindrunnerResurrected]

CALL RICK

[@Maynard-il1yj]

@@4runit654they are in over their heads

[@scotthoover1568]

1) Never talk to police. 2) Never repeat yourself over and over to someone who is too stupid to understand what you're saying

[@dannyespinosa3978]

Yes

[@JimMcnevin]

COULD YOU PLEASE EXPLAIN TO ME WHAT THEY SAID ???

[@PINACI]

The ONLY thing they should be saying to the cop is "GET OFF OUR PROPERTY" !

[@knowyourrightsnj7768]

That's a fact!!!! Absolutely ridiculous that she gives them so much time! Laughing with them like their her friends.

[@I.____.....__...__]

Um, you must be new here. Have you not seen the many videos where people tried that? 🤨 Some of them actually survived (more or less). 😒

[@WApnj]

@@PINACI the cop would just argue that he's not on their property. 🤔🙄

[@Rodgerwilco91]

True. She gave this cop way too much patience and grace. She should have told him to fuck off of their land.

[@jtmunn4496]

This cop has lost his mind.

[@timlewis2068]

He clearly never had one to lose.

[@JoeMama-y6t]

He’s an idiot!

[@christinecampbell7301]

That officer only has 2 brain cells and they're both fighting for 3rd place.

[@SilentStrike117]

Like most cops have barely graduated high school and are not even trained in criminal law

[@bryantaylor2523]

More like 300th place!

[@Errazial]

Jesus, that guy cannot even follow a simple conversation, but he's getting paid to carry a gun around?

[@Poppagee69]

Won't even look at the survey , too complicated to read anything more complex than stick people playing hangman.

[@dabadore.]

When cops show up, they already have made up their mind and if you dont give them what they want, then they wont listen to anything at all.

[@rancisgamer]

There is a conspiracy here. I hope her lawyers use the discovery process to find the communication between the neighbors and the police that is abusing the law.

[@superdadAlls]

He definitely has a connection to Rick

[@JimmyJamZ12321]

If a contractor 'damages' your driveway and decides to make it right by repairing it with gravel.. the police might show up to tell you they are the mouthpiece for your Karen neighbor, and the gravel is Karen's gravel, not the contractors without even contacting said contractor to determine if said contractor was allowed by Karen to even repair said driveway. Officer 'mouthpiece' is clueless

[@michaelgtripp]

Correct, he should call the contractor and ask who's gravel that is...but he keeps telling her what she needs to do. Honestly, it's either civil or it isn't, but he keeps telling them what they need to do while being considerate of Rick.

[@JimmyJamZ12321]

@michaelgtripp yes he should've. Also, yes, it's a civil matter, but I'm sure if he contacted the contractor, he would say 'yes I can and did repair the damage to their driveway'. When you have someone out to do a project like the contractor did for the 'Karen' neighbor, you price the job for what is used. You don't charge them for a dump truck of gravel.. no one would ever do business like that because the price for the job would be far too expensive for the homeowner. That was the contractors gravel, not 'Karen's'

[@daveblackman816]

This all but confirms that the cops are friends with these neighbors in some capacity. Defending the same family in two different occasions? Cmon.

[@c2ashman]

omg...i would rather talk to a toddler than this cop. What a waste of time and braincells.

[@wadestanton]

Cartels pay big bucks for cops like this one.

[@sashasmusic2463]

we're paying for this. it's insane.

[@JiveDadson]

And a waste of valuable blubber.

[@alliet.7582]

My niece is a young toddler, and barley verbal. She makes more sense than this cop ever will.

[@Espo78]

She is so smart to wear a body cam and record these interactions.

[@szalaytamas3184]

She is dumb to maintain the conversation.

[@TheRunningDad]

Don’t ever argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and beat you at their own game.

[@joshmccarty8800]

If I abandon my possessions they aren’t my fucking possessions.

[@patrickjames3321]

That’s the law too

[@johnruddick686]

Particularly if you dump it on someone else's property.

[@Grokroot]

If you abandon your possessions, you are littering and should be held responsible.

[@RHCrewReactions]

That's not what this is though. You don't get automatic ownership of something left on your property, including construction materials.

[@Zagroseckt]

@@Grokroot Dont forget criminal traspas (by proxy but still counts) and vandelisem the pile of whatever it was vandelised there property requiering them to clean it up

[@sheryltrautman-fy1py]

This woman should not be having the circular stupid conversation with the cop. It's civil, don't waste your breath with his ignorance

[@bojohannesen4352]

Circular conversations are so fucking ridiculous.

[@crazyworld54321]

I don't have the patience for ineptitude. I don't suffer fools. I would have just told the cop he is now trespassing and needs to leave and never to return without a legal reason to do so.

[@mr.duanesharpe]

@@bojohannesen4352For real. Say it once and move forward. I detest when someone asks me a question and a follow up word or partial sentence to said question.

[@bojohannesen4352]

@@mr.duanesharpe But if I keep repeating a question, you're supposed to change your answer, until I get the answer I want. Don't you know the rules? It's pigeon chess 101.

[@knowyourrightsnj7768]

This was absolutely nauseating, I wish someone would tell her to STFU and stop talking to these simpletons.

[@Iamrightyouarewrong]

They littered on their property, they have a right to remove that litter.

[@robertgantry2118]

Everyone on the planet seems to grasp that concept except for the tard neighbor and the oinkers.

[@bojohannesen4352]

I guess they have learned that next time they need to file charges on the person for littering.

[@crazyworld54321]

If you dump your shit on what I can prove is my property, your shit is going to the curb. Simple as that. I don't care what happens to it after the fact.

[@bojohannesen4352]

@@crazyworld54321 That could easily be construed as vandalism, so I would not suggest you do that if Amazon some day deliver a laptop or whatever to your address by accident.

[@crazyworld54321]

@@bojohannesen4352 I'll be a bit clearer. Intent is the key issue here. If you "dump" something on my property knowingly and don't intend to do anything with it, it's trash and it's going to the curb. It's either a littering issue or an abandonment issue at that point. It's my land, and that discretion then falls to me. Of course, the officer made a false equivalency which actually makes the point. He tried to reference a car breaking down unintentionally on someone else's land, which of course is a non-sequitur and irrelevant to the situation at hand. However, should weeks begin to pass and the car is still left delinquent and abandoned, then at that point again, I can arrange to have it legally removed from my property. I might not be able to do it myself, but at that point the law would be backing you anyway. As well, a "reasonable" person wouldn't consider a mailed package that was simply delivered to the wrong address to be a form of trash or litter. I would like to think we all have a civic duty to return said packages to the postal service so it can be delivered correctly.

[@northeastrailwayproductions]

Is this cop not not listening to any of the words coming out of her mouth??. If someone dumps on my property and leaves it, it's mine... period the end.

[@JoeMama-y6t]

No, he was not listening to her! He had his mind made up before he even spoke to her and nothing is going to change it!

[@daemoncan2364]

He was not interested in seeing ANY evidence that corroborated Kelly's story. That says it all.

[@S-tank_]

Well maybe it's cuz she's insufferable? She just keeps going around and around saying the same things over and over clearly the cop doesn't understand so saying it the exact same way 14 more times isn't gonna fix anything. She won't let anyone else talk she repeatedly cuts off the man to make the same exact point she's already made several times and she can't seem to grasp that even if it's her property she still can't just take the material without permission. I believe she's in the right and I would have done the same thing in her shoes I'm just saying that's probably why he's not interested in listening to her

[@I.____.....__...__]

@@S-tank_ That's because the cop kept going around and around in circles and unable to understand simple concepts like that you can own something without paying for it and it NOT being theft. The cop ASSUMED everything. He ASSUMED that they were billed for the excess gravel instead of you know, CHECKING. He said he needs to call Rick but REFUSED to do so. The COP was insufferable, she was the VICTIM. 😒

[@spiderfan1974]

Always make sure you talk to them first. Cops always believe the first person they talk to. Evidence to the contrary be dambed. They said..... blah blah blah ergo you are lying to me.

[@mickyhorn6731]

"If that's what Rick tells me"... go and fucking ask Rick before flexing your authority and making threats!... am I missing something? How are these cops so dumb ffs!

[@Jdwest81]

@@mickyhorn6731 to be fair, they are cops.

[@mickyhorn6731]

@@Jdwest81 I know, I know, i know... maybe I'm the dumb one for still having a little bit of hope 😂😂

[@seanwoffinden6806]

I've worked for a contractor before, extra materials are not the home owners possession. We bring extra material to every job, to save us trips back and forth. The neighbors did not pay for those rocks, they were extra and the contractor gave them to these people. How is every cop always the dumbest person in a conversation?

[@thedude925]

You needed more experience to work for the contractor than the cops need to beat you off.

[@MrTheHillfolk]

I mean I ain't no contractor ,but I know that most smart ones add in say 10% extra materials for unexpected surprises. Who knows ,maybe cement is being mixed by hand and some dumdum drops a bag off the cliff edge on the property,stuff like that. Can't be caught with your pants down needing another piece of lumber because somebody screwed one up and you don't have any extra.

[@92656trw]

@@thedude925 Please accept no hand jobs from police.

[@thebullgator]

Unless it’s explicitly called out in the contract, you are 100% correct. Certain architects will speck out “attic stock” for future repairs or even future projects so that for lots match. But given the testimony and evidence the cops has this lay is 1000% in the right assuming she has text messages.

[@Kelley-v7v]

@@thebullgator She does.

[@JjackVideo]

Criminal thugs helping out a friend instead of doing their jobs. Must be cops

[@3trilogy]

Never attempt to reason or argue with an idiot. It never works.

[@MegaFakedude]

That literally is in the Bible, but uses the term "fool".

[@michaelhaydenbell]

When they have authority, you have to.

[@wallebo]

Especially if they have a gun and are used to thinking that they are heroes and can do no wrong.

[@licorfino210]

😮 an idiot? Yes 👍 your 💯 correct is a super idiot this cop

[@kyle2]

I die a little bit inside every time she makes an illustrative point and the cop just short circuits with "we're going in circles". Like yeah, she has to keep circling around to the point over and over because you are incapable of logic, dude. It doesn't even make any sense. Something gets left on her property and then it's a crime if she moves it? What???

[@NewEdgeDesigns]

The neighbors are using the police to target her..

[@Arvord]

“Rick is a great guy” hmmm conflict of interest !!!!

[@ChampBlazed]

Something don’t smell right with all this. Either the police are completely incompetent and idiotic (which I believe to be the case regardless) or these neighbors have stronger ties to the department. Is Kelly some hideous beast that these simpletons are biased towards the neighbors off the get go? Or is the neighbor really good looking, to where these idiots automatically side with her? I’m just trying to figure out what could possibly be happening here… At the end of the day, these cops are complete morons

[@edwardjcoleman4832]

That cop is corrupt and is always against this family.

[@stephenstansberry7995]

Of course

[@BlackSheep_216]

His stupidity is here for the world to see.

[@jerryreiily2296]

He is not smart enough to be corrupt!!

[@AvACyberSecurity]

The arrogance and lack of common sense from this cop is astonishing.

[@brandonbath6097]

“I’m not going to weigh into property disputes.” Literally what you’re doing my guy.

[@MrTrailerman2]

Cop has a compression problem of the definition of dispute.

[@SaltStorm007]

“We are investigating a gravel theft.....on your property”.....🤔Sounds about right....

[@imbalancedstatus8824]

Police is just plain stupid

[@SaltStorm007]

@@imbalancedstatus8824FACTS! Fun fact: There is LITERALLY a case that says that a person can be, ‘too smart’, to be an officer.....🤯

[@adaptedbythedans]

If Rick shorted the customer material, that’s Rick’s problem.

[@bryantaylor2523]

And he can solve it with any pile of the same material that he still owns or needs to buy. He's already given away this pile as part of a driveway repair. (a half-assed repair, but a repair nonetheless)

[@hardinmtp3]

Rick rolled.

[@nemesister5109]

That cop is the unreasonable, not the couple. Unbelievable, so frustrating.

[@danielmorgan6779]

This cop has been on thin ice the whole time! The cop’s logic is totally scrambled! This cop is about to go to Court! This cop traps himself in his own logic time, after time, after time!

[@torycarter8747]

This cop should have every single one of his arrest investigated! He twisted way of thinking about the law is INSANE! How can someone steal their own property?? wtf?

[@Poppagee69]

No doubt . The neighbor repaired his damage and now wants the material he tried to repair the damage with back ? What about her labor for moving the disposed material he left on her property in good faith for the damage to the driveway.

[@Bartlettallen]

Can't trust none of them all of them dirty

[@ArunSudama-ur2cd]

Wow! This cop is the dictionary definition of ‘simpleton’

[@loosemoose9799]

Are you sure he is that smart?

[@activemanishere]

If his car breaks down at the end of my driveway, i, as the homeowner, absolutely have the right to call a tow company and have the vehicle towed at the owners expense. This lady had the rock towed. She's absolutely in the right.

[@ZiggZagg11]

And the car leaked oil,... and you dug it up and moved where the oil dripped into the soil... And they charge you with theft of their oil... 👀

[@robsilva0505]

I thought the exact same thing

[@tk4c415]

she should send the other homeowner and contractor a bill for having to "tow" remove the stone..

[@Danielthornton61]

That officer just loves to hear himself talk about stuff that's way out of his authority.

[@TheScottyge]

Abandoned property on someone else's property. She has the right to move unwanted material on her own property.

[@wallebo]

Exactly! If I find something in my yard I am under no obligation to scour the neighborhood trying to figure out whoe property it is.

[@DJYG30]

the problem is that this couple is making too many assumptions. they assumed that its unwanted ( just because he said he'll fix it doesnt mean the material is unwanted. they assumed that taking it would fix it without telling the other party. She shouldnt have been nice by not bothering him knowing that they have a whole dispute going on. Also the ownership of the material argument is stupid, it doesnt matter if he paid for a job or the rocks themselves if the contractor wanted the rocks he would come get it otherwise it belongs to the person that paid for it.

[@sharistrazz3313]

I concur!

[@vintagestufflover7020]

BINGO!!! it is a no brainer!

[@vintagestufflover7020]

​@@DJYG30but Rick told her he was putting the leftover rock in her driveway, smoothed it out and he raked it over the driveway. It doesn't matter if the neighbor paid for the rock. Rick gave the rock to Kelly by leaving it there ON HER PROPERTY. Rick needs to make the neighbor whole by refunding what was dumped or give him the equivalent in rock, but Kelly has done NOTHING wrong.

[@whyisthissodifficult6965]

"The contractor gave me some material, feel free to inquire with him. I have no further comments, please leave the property" -close door and ignore She talks too much and the cops are dumb. Nightmare neighbors

[@delpy21ify]

This is a perfect example as to why people should use active listening skills. This officer wasn't listening to anything that was being said. He had his own idea in his head, and while he was communicating with them, he wasn't listening to what was being said.

[@michaelherring7210]

This lady’s initial explanation was perfect, and a perfect illustration for all proving why you never speak to the police without a lawyer. Cops should not be investigating civil disputes ever.

[@frotobaggins7169]

Exactly, the cop keeps turn it around to be against her.

[@PepeToTheMooon]

Man, these neighbors are frustrating. How many times will the cops get involved with them?? This family must be drinking buddies with the chief

[@interestedparty00]

I’m so happy that this low lQ cop has been exposed.

[@lisacyr8636]

This women should absolutely take the charges, and got to court, then file harassment charges on neighbors

[@peter2liter]

It would have made a hell of a defamation lawsuit.

[@hpprochargedtbss]

Yep. Because then I can have a lawyer hire a private detective and find out what connections the neighbors have with people higher up at the police department, or city hall. Or whatever. Because they clearly are on the side of neighbors.

[@mikecrissinger-en5ql]

From what I see and my past as a contractor I think she should simply file a lawsuit against each of the contractors that have been trespassing and causing damage or leaving material. Suing for cleaning, repairing, and emotional stress from the situation

[@notmyname3883]

This cop is like a 3 year old. I cannot believe this "conversation" went on for HALF AN HOUR and they just went round and round and round and round and round and.................................................. without resolving a thing.

[@bojohannesen4352]

And then they CONTINUED the next effing day!!!!

[@Kelley-v7v]

No, he eventually gave me a summons for criminal theft and a court date for my initial appearance.

[@DaxSeven09]

I can't believe I've watched the whole thing.

[@boloossoloob6754]

@@Kelley-v7v I hope it go´s your way

[@JamestheKilljoy]

I dont know who is dumber. These cops, or the neighbors making a bid deal about some rocks... What buffoonery

[@frostyducts]

If a contractor has to go through a neighbor's property to get to their job and fixes the neighbor's property, it's the contractor fixing the property with their own materials. This isn't rocket science officer.

[@gr33dyglutton]

It depends on how the job payment was structured. If it was a fixed contract, $5000 to complete a job, it's Rick's material. If it was time and material then the material belongs to the other property owners. That being said, it would be Rick who should be charged with theft because he took their material and used it for an unauthorized purpose. This department is either friends with the other property owners or completely incompetent and just taking the side of the people who called them and "weren't difficult". edit: I just finished the video she said it was a fixed price contract, and she's completely right, it's Rick's material. That cop is completely ignorant.

[@shinjox42]

This is like saying if they vandalize their property, and I cleaned up the vandalism, they could be charged with destruction of property.

[@kradxx1926]

Illegal dumping on someone else’s property. The property owner moved it and now a theft issue… Charge them for illegal dumping and removal. Case closed

[@CharlesBishop-ld4gn]

Unfortunately the contractor will be put in the middle.

[@dragonicspartan4642]

@@CharlesBishop-ld4gngoing off what the piggie said, Rick is in the middle already.

[@user-dv7hb2sc9m]

RICK dumped it to make sure any damages were corrected..... not as part of the septic system at all. As part of damages done by his trucks & he fixed the holes to make it right. If this is these people's part of the road then they can move it wherever they wish & the police are basically calling her a thief of material poured on her road to fix her road, period. Cops out of line !

[@AdderTude]

"But neighbor pay for rock so rock is theirs. You theft. Unga bunga." - The officer, probably.

[@jamescox7007]

The neighbors have a relative within the police department somewhere. The police have found Kelly at fault every time. The reaction of these cops stink..

[@aftonair]

Okay. That explains a lot.

[@briancunningham845]

That cop is a broken record.

[@jamiedalziel4692]

I'll fix this in 2 seconds flat, call "RICK" at 8 am tell him if the crushed stone's not off your property by the time you've finished work, your gonna report him for dumping industrial waste on your property.

[@AB-et1ug]

So the cop is too stupid to speak to Rick first & yet continues to pick at & bully this lovely couple. Talk about threatening this couple with no reason to coz he hasn't spoken to Rick. Omg this is so stupid & I feel demented listening to these stupid cops.

[@brianl2875]

Possession is 9/10 of the law. Neighbor illegally dumped on their property.

[@JamesonRutfordPhD]

@@brianl2875 do you understand what that saying means? It means that lets use this situation for example and just say the cop was right and the material legally was the neighbors and let’s say she didn’t want to give it up. Possession is 9/10’s just represents that it may be yours but to get it back your gonna have to go through court and then have to collect the item. It doesn’t actually have anything to do with the law it’s just supposed to represent that

[@newshodgepodge6329]

Hire someone to remove it and add illegal dumping to their lawsuit?

[@newshodgepodge6329]

​@@JamesonRutfordPhDEither way, it's above a beat cop's pay grade. It's not his job to stand out there and try to litigate a civil matter on someone's private property at any time of day, least of all late in the evening. So like the man that owns the property the cop is standing on said, what the hell is the point of this cop even being there running off at the mouth and taking up space that clearly doesn't belong to him?

[@RealityBytesBack]

@@newshodgepodge6329 What else is an asinine unreasonable officer supposed to do, if not have the Unfounded unreasonable perspective that the RP is already in the right? especially without wanting to look at her evidence.

[@nuclearmedicineman6270]

@@newshodgepodge6329 Get a court order first that requires him to remove it.. then when he refuses, do it yourself and sue him for the cost.

[@sisterrose6830]

The cop solicited a crime by suggesting to the contractor that the material belongs to the septic system people.

[@rustyrobinson8027]

My advice to Kelly NEVER TALK TO THE POLICE PERIOD 😶🇺🇸

[@Kelley-v7v]

Don't worry, I am taking your advice.

[@RealityBytesBack]

Yeah, especially when the cop is as dumb as rocks. And serves a lot less purpose, for that matter. SMART To be recording her interactions with them.

[@RealityBytesBack]

@@Kelley-v7v Good thing! BC You've explained yourself and asked questions of these cops eloquently, To help them understand the unreasonableness of the situations, but for whatever reason, they just want to side with your neighbors. It's too bad you're dealing with all of this BS. I really enjoyed watching and I'm glad LL posted them. I'm curious to see what happens and I've subscribed to your channel👍

[@knowyourrightsnj7768]

​@@Kelley-v7vPLEASE STOP TALKING TO THESE COPS. THEY ARE IN NO WAY A FRIEND AS YOU CAN SEE WITH THESE COUNTLESS ENCOUNTERS. TELL THEM TO GET OFF YOUR PROPERTY, PERIOD, SEEING YOU GO IN CIRCLES AND LAUGHING WITH THEM WAS NAUSEATING TO SAY THE LEAST. PLEASEEEEEE, NEVER SPEAK WITH THEM AGAIN. THIS COP WAS DUMBER THAN THE GRAVEL ITSELF.

[@knowyourrightsnj7768]

​@@Kelley-v7valso, RICK IS NOT A GOOD GUY.

[@l0vemyth]

My brain is breaking under this guy's insistence that they are responsible for some random person dumping product on their lawn

[@Nexesys]

Cops just need to leave these people alone and let them settle it in court.

[@nathanwilliams9598]

The fact that this cop can't resolve this says all we need to know about police resolution training.

[@user-zg5fs6qe7q]

That isn't a cop. That is a broken record. He didn't have enough information to even respond to the call and refused to get that information and refused to admit there was another possibility. The only one going in circkes and being unreasonable was that cop. Good grief.

[@bojohannesen4352]

A shame the woman was also a broken record.

[@user-zg5fs6qe7q]

@@bojohannesen4352 Only out of necessity.

[@joshuasmith9528]

If he leaves this call, he might have to deal with a dangerous criminal. He’s milking the clock. Happens. ALL. THE. TIME.

[@bojohannesen4352]

@@user-zg5fs6qe7q That was not necessary at all. Nothing good comes from prolonging a conversation with police, especially when you're not the caller / the one in cahoots with the PD. All you will achieve is nothing OR incriminating yourself. Going through the motion 2 or 3 times, sure. But keep going for half an hour? Come on.

[@user-zg5fs6qe7q]

@bojohannesen4352 The only one prolonging the conversation was the Cop. Besides the fact that he didn't know what the heck he was talking about, he repeated the exact same words at least 12 times. She was trying to reason with an unreasonable person who had already made up his mind about the situation before he even responded.

[@erikanders3343]

Time to sue the cops to get access to communications from the neighbors and the cops because there is some clear corruption going on.

[@Kelley-v7v]

There definitely is some corruption going on. How does one find a lawyer who deals with this kind of crap?

[@halfaddict]

foia time

[@zafarsyed6437]

This cop is dense... If the material was left, then it was left. Why didn’t the gravel get moved? 3 minutes into this video I'm yelling "Just call Rick already!"

[@briancunningham845]

So glad this lady recorded this. Good for her.

[@Theclarkofgems]

That has to be the most painful conversation I've ever witnessed. 🙈

[@Enemisses]

"If my car breaks down on your driveway that doesn't give you the right to take it" ....No sir it doesn't, but she WOULD have the right to *MOVE* it, which is exactly what she did with the material. What a simpleton.

[@StewPedassle]

Not only that, but she said "if that's theirs, then Rick can come and take it." It's a pile of stone. It's not going to wither away over the weekend. Cop should have said "Okay, I'll talk to Rick and see whether it's yours or have him move it all" and have that be the end of it because there's no more possibility of a 'crime' to investigate. Probably would have ended the video at 6 minutes

[@urgreatestenemy3044]

The problem I see is the neighbors property may be landlocked and this is why they are forced to use her driveway to access their land in that case, they may have an agreement with the previous owner and the driveway was setup as an easement where she owns the driveway they are allowed to use it under the previous owners agreement. Because the material was dumped on the easement, it was technically on her property, but it could be a shared easement between them, and that could complicate the matter. In that case, she would be in the wrong to move the rock as where she owns the land, the neighbors have a right to cross or otherwise use her land for a specified purpose. Because the rock was the neighbors and placed on the easement, they had a right to use her land. If she didn't want the rock there, she should have made the contractor completely remove it or talked to the neighbors and made them remove it, instead or taking it and using it elsewhere. I understand her side and believe the contractor is mainly at fault but she really had no rights to the rock as she didn't pay for it, and it was potentially on an easement and they had a non possessory right to use the land because it was shared land between both parties in a previous owner's agreement.

[@skillethead15]

@@urgreatestenemy3044She made the contractor move it and he moved all of what he was going to move. Which means whatever is left, was abandoned. And had the contractor cleaned all of the stone up, I’m sure the neighbor wouldn’t have a problem with it. So the neighbors acting like they wanted that left over stone is ridiculous. If they wanted the stone, they could have had the contractor dump it clearly on their property. They are making a stink about it for no reason. Just to complain. The bottom line is, if that stone was valued property, they never should have left it where it was. And if Kelly wants to clean the stone up and throw it away or use it, that’s her decision to make.

[@toms382]

I think she should have pursued this angle with the officer more than arguing whether the stone belonged to Rick (the contractor) or the neighbor. It doesn't really matter in the end, it's on her property.

[@moisturisedgnome1181]

​@urgreatestenemy3044 this is the correct answer. Best comment. If they are already in dispute, then her moving the gravel somewhere else on her land would have only knowingly exacerbated the situation.

[@SaltStorm007]

They 100% know someone on the force/city based on the way these cops are acting.....🤔

[@JesusH.Tap-Dancingchrist7328]

The cop says "Rick's a good guy" They're clearly chums

[@michaelherring7210]

I thought that too. The cop was way too invested.

[@Dan-yk6sy]

@@JesusH.Tap-Dancingchrist7328 Thats the only explanation for this.

[@TiptonMama]

Rick is the contractor ... @jesush.tap-dancingchrist7328 but he's absolutely talking about the neighbors the same way.

[@theatropian4402]

Absolutely the cop immediately said Rick is a good guy. They know him