Talking Kingdom Hearts' Story

All spoilers allowed - if you don't like 'em, beat it!
Okay, marathon's done, so here's my short piece collecting my thoughts on the broader Kingdom Hearts plot, or more specifically, the optics of the franchise, the delivery of the plot, and miscellaneous ideas regarding the online discourse of Kingdom Hearts.
This features stuff from X, and a bit from Re:Mind and Melody of Memory - no the spoilers aren't awful and pervasive, and I'm not that into talking actual plot points (see video), but I have to stress that they're present if you really wanna dive in.
I actually don't like releasing videos with minimal, uh, curation, like this one (I mean it was rigged together in less than a week) but I hope it's entertaining regardless!
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[@adambombdiggidy]

"Ok I believe you." I see what you did there Mr. Bash.

[@kingoftropes922]

He is truly one of us

[@luxo2309]

NOO!! Bad! Shame on you!

[@Zayindjejfj]

That fucking got me good.

[@alexanderkentopp3070]

@@Zayindjejfj Can you help out an ignorant one I WANNA GET THE JOKE

[@prestigini3150]

I was just about to comment “6:02”!

[@awkwardllama0509]

Kingdom Hearts seems to be one of those series that has more promise in it’s story than it seemed to have confidence in, so it kinda smokescreened it’s audience with Disney stuff while the interesting stuff went on in collectable diary pages.

[@alsaiduq4363]

I think thats just how Nomura and his team works. The World Ends With you is the same. Unless you get all reporta from twewy you never why the reaper game works or how there's concept of multi dimensions. Their games always so really basic stuff in main story but the story behind the scenes is super complex.

[@togucvinw7]

Or in Mobil games filled with filler stuff

[@awkwardllama0509]

@@roopereimi1718 Tbh I really never thought about that, it’s a pretty good point

[@awkwardllama0509]

@@roopereimi1718 I could see something like that being the case, squareenix and disney stuffed these titles full of their fan favorites afterall. (Although now I kinda wanna see simba with a chainsaw in the KH style)

[@victorhugocosta1127]

@@alsaiduq4363 I wouldn't say its complex, it just has a lot bloated information. I think its just convoluted as far as KH is concerned. TWEWY though, can definitely be experienced without reading supplemental material. It's a very tight story regardless

[@xehanort3623]

Has a KH fan since early 2000's I can safety say the story is dumb but it has a special place in my heart.

[@darkanddandy6898]

Exactly me feelings, "This story is fucking stupid....when's the next one coming out?"

[@geancarlosegarra3193]

@@darkanddandy6898 exactly me after mom😭

[@victorhugocosta1127]

I don't really like this type of backhanded compliment, as I believe the series can craft some legit moving scenes and characters, and I think that's genuinely genius. Too bad KH3 dropped the ball on that front

[@plotarmour1471]

@@victorhugocosta1127 was kh3 really that bad? i mean there are so many people saying it,why?

[@TheJbrown60]

ppl who say its dumb dont have the brain capacity for it

[@DonutSwordsman]

i feel it. This series hits hard, especially when you look at it as a work thats mostly written around symbolism, and I also grew up playing them from playing a little kid. Its easy to see past the disney stuff i feel for the meaning behind it all.

[@gothtaku6666]

Thank you not everyone picks up on that

[@GaijinController]

And usually after you finish a Disney world there's always some type of special payoff that they learn or has connection to the story. I've always really liked that about the games

[@theworstcatholic7247]

Thing is while symbolism can certainly add to a story, it's not something that makes a story good just because it has it alone.

[@christianlopez707]

@@theworstcatholic7247 Especially when the symbolism doesn't make sense within the context of a story.

[@colinobriant6895]

@@theworstcatholic7247 What OP said is how I feel about a lot of anime and how I've kinda learned to respect works with a bad story but good characters or themes. Sometimes it just evokes certain feelings and that's all that really matters. I'm not gonna say it's abstract story telling, more that the story is a means to the end of seeing those good parts. Apologies if this doesn't make sense, it's just the hyper subjective way I look at things that are a little dumb but have heart to them.

[@aidanklobuchar1798]

"it's like ... a cult." Yeah, sounds about right.

[@arthurdurham]

I have to agree bc of Roxas's story in KH2. When not constrained by the general story and the disney and FF tie ins, Nomura can make a good story. I genuinely think it's a heartbreaking well told story and the best in the series

[@15Seili]

Nomura - good story pick one! in all seriousness, i think Nomura tries way too hard to shock, to chatch people off guard and inserts way too many curveballs into his stories (take FF15 as an example). I hope, now, that it looks like KH proceeds without Disney, i hope he can tell a compelling and more coherent story.

[@meteornome2556]

@@15Seili Nomura didn't do FF15, he did FFvsXIII and story that was going to be in that game wasn't used for FF15.

[@christianlopez707]

@@15Seili I think the FF7 remake works as a better example on how Nomura tries too hard to shock people.

[@posteriorpepperoni]

@@christianlopez707 except he didn't write the story for that game,he was the director. The writer was Kazushige Nojima

[@christianlopez707]

@@posteriorpepperoni Still Nomura was the director couldn't he double check the script? Although I will give him break sense I think Motomu Toriyama also had a hand in it.

[@dekaidoku]

KH's Story is weird...but it has so much heart that I can't look away. Its a story of growing up and story of losing yourself in a tough world. Its a story that says hey, its okay. I love it.

[@Darkyan97]

It's just genuine. A genuinely heartfelt story. No matter what batshit insane ideas Nomura comes up with in the long run, I *CARE* for these characters and their struggles. Hell, I can't even count how many times I cried at the ending segments of KH3.

[@kingoftropes922]

Characters are story, after all. No matter what happens, if you can make people care, that's powerful. Eastern media is full of of this same ethos which is a big part of why I love it.

[@65firered]

Darkness within darkness awaits you.

[@ProjectSudoku]

@@65firered "...Deep down, there's a light that never goes out!"

[@christianlopez707]

@@ProjectSudoku Who else will I have Ice cream with!?

[@christianlopez707]

I don't know. For me personally some of that genuineness has been dissapearing sense DDD.

[@fable23]

My issue with Kingdom Hearts' story is honestly mostly presentational; namely, that Nomura kept using the secret endings to imply that Kingdom Hearts was actually this huge, complicated meta narrative that was conceived long ago and would be slowly unveiled over time. You know, as opposed to what it actually was, which was a bunch of stuff he made up as he went along and a bunch of ideas he crammed in because he happened to be thinking of them the day the script was due. Like, it's abundantly clear to me _now_ that all the theorizing people are doing is pointless because the next Kingdom Hearts story has probably changed fifty times since the last one was released and will probably change fifty more before somebody pulls Nomura away from the keyboard, but that's not how it was sold to me back _then._ I was a child, I bought into the hype. Now that I'm older and know better, I can more readily roll with the wacky punches, but I'm still a little annoyed that he's _still_ trying to pull this con.

[@kingxeno4794]

You make a good point this is my personal opinion but I feel like Nomura wants to give it a really good story the is constantly expanding while fulfilling its audience but if he just so happens to piss Disney off in the slightest way, his "world" will ultimately come crashing down and will give us an either crap ending or a wrap up that will have more plot hole than we already have but I do see what you mean

[@loopygordo]

Looking at how union ended and how other parts of the series have panned out its hard to believe he made most of it up on the spot. I just played through a bunch of games and watched a bunch of lore vids over the last 2 weeks to catch back up the lore with union getting its ending. Overall it seems like to many plot points connect back and forth well enough that with retrospective he had thought about a lot of the story beforehand minus the very small number of ret cons

[@laststrike4411]

@@loopygordo So it's clearly planned if he uses a prequel story after the fact to connect the dots? You realize most planned stories don't have to do that for their overarching narratives (on a MOBILE GAME, of all things), right?

[@victorhugocosta1127]

My biggest point of interest with KH story was the characters and the emotional moments. I couldn't care less about the linking pieces of the overrall narrative if the emotional core is strong. That's why I like games like BBS in spite of its narrative and gameplay problems. The point is that, to me, KH3 failed hard on that regard. Characters lack agency, the heroes are all satellites to Sora, long awaited reunions are just brushed off to follow the rushed ending, Kairi's nothingness both as a character and a heroine, etc. The game sometimes felt like it just wanted to end things quickly and proceed to the next Arc of the series, throwing out years of anticipation and foreshadowing

[@laststrike4411]

@@victorhugocosta1127 Could you actually delve into the stuff you're talking about with the characters? It sounds like you stewed on this for a while.

[@SuperXrayDoc]

6:00 now there's a line I haven't heard in a long time

[@silly5905]

This had to be intentional.

[@luxo2309]

Please, don't bring that up.

[@AeroFlash15]

Thought he was slick lmao

[@avaleeva52]

while i love your normal content it is definitely refreshing to hear you approach a video like this once in a while; serious and willing to discuss a controversial aspect without coating it in memes solid video my guy

[@SuperMetalhead96]

Thank you for bringing up the controversy surrounding newcomers reviewing the game! I specifically remember this occurring with Angry Joe when he expressed a desire to review KH3. Fans and very prominent members of the community were quick to jump down his throat and gate keep him so hard that he ended up dropping all ambition of reviewing the game and calling the fan base elitist(which I can understand given the response he got). The newcomer perspective was an incredibly valid and necessary one for any established franchise. Arguably more so than usual with KH3 considering the noticeably increased marketing push the game was receiving, 13 years of hype following the end of KH2 (I know it wasn't in development that long but for god's sake, the end of KH2 showed that the story was not over), and the fact that it was the first Kingdom Hearts to release on an Xbox. There were going to be a lot of people jumping into the series for the first time with KH3 and they really needed reviews from their perspective. And the game did recognize that they needed to account for newcomers, that's why Square put the memory archive in. And to think that a professional reviewer would trash a game beyond belief because they were lost by starting at the culminating chapter is a bit of a leap to make. Not to say it wasn't done, but plenty of them would have recognized that they would have understood more if they played earlier games and probably have recommended that newcomers start with the collections. The fact is we shouldn't be gatekeeping potential fans in this way. It makes the Kingdom Hearts community feel unwelcoming and judgmental of people who wanted to test the waters with KH3 and see what it was about. And another thing, the story was only one facet of the game. You don't need a single piece of prior knowledge to have very valid opinions about things like the flow of gameplay, level design, or graphical/musical quality (just to name a few).

[@zeosummers3984]

yeah but it also wouldn't add much so i understand why they didn't want him to review it. he at most could just say he enjoyed playing it and might want to play the other games. he can't really add anything because its not a completely stand alone game. problems begins- majority of kh games are just bad. the music are redition of past games. (can't really review story). it looks nice is kinda meh ( not much to say on that). for newcomers you can only recommend the combat which i did to someone i know and they enjoyed it. i can't do that for people who want closure that isn't just an end of the saga. (referring to interaction and story).

[@victorhugocosta1127]

My biggest problem with KH3 in this regard is that it doesn't really have a satisfying story on its own. Every KH game, despite the zany plotpoints, managed to introduce or flesh out characters in a satisfying self contained narrative that made some sense. KH2 had that with the Nobodies, BBS with its main trio and even DDD with Rikus journey of self acceptance. KH3 has many cutscenes with characters talking to each other, but little is explored or fleshed out. Only Sora feels like a character, and even then he doesn't have much personal relationships with the main antagonist and I feel his whole journey of self sacrifice is told very clumsily. I can't fault newcomers when the game fails to deliver a satisfying self contained narrative.

[@nahnah390]

Can we also talk about how sometimes the game just suddenly has FANTASTIC writing just interspersed in things here and there? Like the stars in the final world were all overwhelming in how everything went together... I can't really explain it completely since a lot of it only works when you're there. but it still smacked me in the face and suddenly I was confused because we reversed time somehow. It was some kind of whiplash.

[@sarthakarora3212]

That's fantastic to you? The entire story is poorly translated to appeal to younger audiences and simplify it like by using the word darkness instead of anger, hate, etc. Friendship is in-place of bonds too as all keyblade wielders get's power from bonds and by helping the worlds they travel too, they are awarded by the world's heart with a new keychain which has the worlds power infused whiten transforming the keybalde. There are A LOT of foreshadowing but very not obvious and kh3 presents xehenort as Lucifer as the fallen angel with a lot of references being a goat is most obvious one. (sora has angel wings but only 1 and needs support of other to fly like kairi) Ayaya read more if you wanna but it's random facts. The first kingdom hearts at end of 1 is the heart of the muti-verse, the one in 3 is the creator of the world, people and other hearts, the one in 2 is a fake one as it's just a big heart made via heartless. Nobody's are hinted in 1 and directly stated even more with the remix, keybladewar was mentioned in KH 1. Marluxia's sister is present in COM in gba too but more obvious in playstaion version etc. Time-travel is hinted at in 1 with sora falling in the opening of kh1, nomura changes things a lot because there are many problems with game making and hardware issues but never changes the stuff foreshadowed, hell the secret ending he said was just made for "fun" in kh1 clearly say's nobodies are a thing and is remade in 358/2days FFS.

[@conmcdon]

I'm an English writing grad, too, and it's always really cool to hear your take on things. Great video, very well thought out, fair, and articulate.

[@DavidPaulSP]

I feel like the reason Kingdom Hearts 2 feels so thematically cohesive is because 1. its so much earlier in the series and 2. actually has action game cutscenes. Sora does some cool as shit near the end of the game and was only expanded upon in the Final Mix version where they let you play out some of them too (Roxas fight.) The end of Kingdom Hearts 3 was cool to play but reflecting on it there isnt much action happening in cutscenes which, for kingdom hearts, is kinda underwhelming.

[@sarthakarora3212]

are your forgetting fan's said they HATE action scenes in KH2.

[@fictionarch]

@@sarthakarora3212 we did? Must have been sick that day.

[@sarthakarora3212]

@@fictionarch look at the 2006 posts oh kh2 or any reviewer, IGN is the prime example of it. Fans hatted getting scene in the middle of a fight and triangle button to win came for this.

[@laststrike4411]

@@sarthakarora3212 Feel free to link them.

[@victorhugocosta1127]

The funniest part are the sudden monologues when you defeat every Organization member in the final fight. Its so jarring

[@yellowfrog96]

Kingdom Hearts story speaks to the heart and that's what makes it special. Playing through these games have helped me deal with my PTSD from traumas in my childhood. People can make fun of it all they want, and they have the right to. I understand how silly and absurd it is. But I still love it. I find it the most emotionally healing piece of media I've ever experienced

[@kingarthurpendragon134]

I will die on the hill that the story of kh was fine until like 3d

[@kevinmay9151]

Same. I don't see enough people coming for DDD like they do for three. both are flawed but one should of told you how the other was gonna turn out.

[@kingoftropes922]

I would argue that KH3's Disney worlds do help build some of the more background theming of the game, you can watch that one foreshadowing and callback pair of videos for more context, but there definitely is more discrepancy between the more original worlds like Toy Box and Monsters Inc and stuff like Arendelle and Corona which are more traditional retellings. Arendelle definitely suffers the most storywise as a result, any KH fan would tell you that. At least Corona has the inherent fun of helping a someone experience their own world for the first time and Pirates just kinda lets you go on your own little adventure mid-way through. KH is a series that wears it heart on its sleeve, so to speak, with some level of corporate appeasement for some of its properties, so the way it writes and develops plot can leave some scratching their heads or turning up their noses, but I'd argue it does have genuinely good writing. its not a 'turn your brain off' affair, there is a fun, engaging, and even clever story here, it might not be perfect, its no Jane Austin, but it's not trying to be.

[@Redxan600]

Oho? Are you referring to Titan Trainer? Yes, I agree with you. Those are the best videos. Plus, he put another one out about why he liked Xehanort's conclusion.

[@zeosummers3984]

universe- good story- still everywhere plot- just happens writing- heart heart darkness heart keyblade ( not so good) foreshadowing- KH literally tells you or shows it to you big and bold. guardian terra showed bbs in full view. luxu- xigbar before even knowing luxu name ,watching it the coat is a 100% dead giveaway. it just takes so long to get the answer we think of others things. even master square and xehanort unless you think they are as dumb as terra.

[@kingoftropes922]

@@zeosummers3984 I resent the idea that using terms relevent to the story constitutes bad writing and serves a little more than a cheap shot at the series. I will say KH can be a bit longwinded for its own good, but just going 'darkness light lol' is barely a criticism. Also things like The Guardian are good foreshadowing because while you can guess parts of it(and people did), its never so obvious that its the only answer, and it doesn't take away from its impact when it does come up. It shows you its hand, but not how it will be played. Also Not sure what you mean about Luxu stuff though, i think your message got a bit jumbled after that part.

[@Hexalys13]

“It’s like a sitcom... or a cult.” Yes. Yes it is a cult. I even try to convert family members and friends to see the greatness that is Kingdom Hearts.

[@geancarlosegarra3193]

For me kingdom hearts peaked from 1-2, the story was still pretty intact, kh2’s ending makes me tear up and it was just great. The story is not that complicated if you play everything, but it’s so conveluted for no reason. And in the more recent games, i feel like the characters are just there to move the plot, i dont feel they get the same heart and soul as before, at least for me. In kh3 even tho i didn’t enjoy it as much as i would have liked, i still cried and screamed in the keyblade graveyard cause it was a great payout for the trios, but then they have sora “die “ in the end and that just really pisses me off😂

[@SlickTactics]

KBash has now become one of my favorite KZbinrs. Well made vids bro

[@tylerbands5319]

Kbash, i been watching your videos for years and id just like to say Thanks for everything bro :)

[@petwisk2012]

"You're free to watch this on 1.5x speed for analitcs" Me that is aways watching in 2x: "why so slow?"

[@Konradix05]

He meant 0.25x. KZbin counts minutes spent watching a video instead of its length, so slower speeds = more minutes spent watching = better for analytics/revenue. The inverse happens at higher speeds.

[@Billy193]

I thought your kingdom hearts videos would be finished after you finished talking about kingdom hearts 3, but I am so glad to be mistaken. Love hearing you talk about this game series

[@NerfariousXIV]

I played KH1 a little bit as a kid but was too fucking stupid to get past Destiny Islands so last year I finally played through all the games and loved it. The story isn't well written or anything but its damn emotional. Possibly the most emotional story I've witnessed in a game series for me. I loved the games and am officially a Kingdom Hearts fan. KH2 is my favorite, but the main games are all good in different ways. The spin-offs are hit or miss but at least add something to the series regardless. Loved watching your videos on this series, genuinely good work.

[@ridogold6192]

Dang, I never got off island probably never will

[@MrRobot-0]

Haha same with my expereience trough i started with 2 and did not know english at the time

[@Charnel_Heart]

Me during every kbash vid: Hey that's some good content Me shouting at the end of every kbash vid: MAXIMILIAN WOLFGANG NIVER

[@FriendCrezno]

This is video is simple, and clean.

[@scoobywoogie]

BRO IT CAME OUT LIKE LESS THAN FIVE MINUTES AGO

[@matthewthomas8407]

IS THE WAY THAT YOURE MAKING ME FEEL TONIGHT.

[@65firered]

Certainly has passion.

[@FriendCrezno]

@@Ozzymandius1 It's hard to let it go..

[@matthewthomas8407]

@@FriendCrezno hooooooold me

[@skeletonssky]

6:00 is that a just a pancake reference?

[@Zayindjejfj]

I forgot this comment is, in of itself, a joke... Never get old tbh.

[@GamerJrdn]

Love that you had an FF5 pic when you mentioned playing the good ones. Great vid!

[@MrHellohorse]

Jfc dude, how do you not have more subscribers? You're content has been top tier since the beginning

[@CinnamonGrrlErin1]

It's not the twisty storytelling I mind as much as the uneven character development (and not just Kairi). Plus there are so many main characters now that they're all spread thin. And the multiple console thing is pretty bad too; I finally got a tablet recently mostly so I could play KHUX. Obviously I'll use it anyways, but this is the third or fourth time I've had to buy or borrow a device for this series.

[@sarthakarora3212]

it's thin cause kh2 and 3 happen months apart leaving no room for kairi and other were well dead. It's more so the games taking a long time to come out that makes it feel uneven when they are paced as a continues story but now they have room for other characters.

[@jordancobb7395]

As a Jordan who loves Kingdom hearts, I was kind of shook at 6:20 😂😂

[@RoxS-ee1yc]

by the time kh3 dropped the entiry of the series was on PS4 for 2 YEARS so yeah square fucked up by putting to much important story in spin offs but if you have 2 years to catch up and dont like kh3 because you played only 1+2...that is not squares fault als describing the Kh fandom as a cult is hilarious and weirdly accurate

[@Darkyan97]

We are indeed a cult

[@victorhugocosta1127]

Except we still had major plot points of KH3 dedicated to the Mobile game. And no, the KHUX movie didn't explain things enough

[@somethingsomething9006]

I'm in a weird scenario with how I view the story. I thoroughly dislike the direction the series has gone after KH2, but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't curious about where it'll go now. I agree that it doesn't need to be this incredibly deep and phenomenal narrative/story, and that it's an action game and it shouldn't have to be incredible story telling, but I feel like that's an excuse to let the story go unhinged, which I'm very against in principle.

[@diondwamena6667]

I completely agree, I think the story should have focused on character building as by KH3 it really seems as if Nomura doesn't know what to do with anyone, by the end everyone is useless except Sora despite losing almost all his powers at the start, Aqua cannot hold her own, Riku who seemed the most developed is with nothing but the weird dialogue with Replica Riku. You wait until the end for the main story beats and they seem so poorly thought out.

[@somethingsomething9006]

@@diondwamena6667 Precisely! I have been waiting ever since KH2 ended for Sora, Riku, and Kairi to be an actual trio that goes on adventures together in the same way Aqua/Terra/Ventus and Roxas/Axel/Xion did. Riku is such an interesting character both gameplay and story wise, and there's so much potential with Kairi, that it could've been really cool. Instead we got, as you said, everyone being useless compared to Sora and not doing all that much when compared to Sora. I really don't want to watch the Sora show all the time, especially when Nomura has so many other characters who can be so interesting and can do so much with.

[@diondwamena6667]

@@somethingsomething9006 Even barring that I wish it felt as if the guardians of light actually felt as if they had an integral part of the story apart from assembling a mostly useless band of musketeers.

[@1BadAssArchAngelvs14]

@@somethingsomething9006 kingdom hearts characters are not god-tier characters do not expect Aqua, Ven, Terra to pull a god mode arse pull out of nowhere. the only way these characters can pull god-level feats is by using the power of 10,000 or more multiple Keyblade users like we saw in KH3. Remember Kingdom Heart's characters are not invincible they are just as Vulnerable when there are beings bigger than continent level Darkness or overwhelmed.

[@somethingsomething9006]

@@1BadAssArchAngelvs14 I don't want all of them to be on the same level as Sora, I just want them to have significantly more impact than they do now. Riku should be MAYBE the only person who's completely on par with Sora, but I feel like everyone else should have distinguishable, yet valuable traits that can allow them to make a reasonable impact in the ways Sora does. Of course not even Sora is god tier, but he has so many feats and screen time, and I wish I could say the same for other character besides Sora alone.

[@didjargo]

This is why KH fans lovingly refer to the overall plot as the "pain train".

[@gansmith]

Gotta say, it is essay like this is why I subscribed to this channel. Always ready to find the positive point of why a series is popular or the positive aspects that niche fandoms like about polarizing games. I had my dip in Kingdom Hearts in the past and I just knew it wasn't my thing even though the gameplay was exciting, but it is honesty such as the one expressed in this video that allows me to at least respect Kingdom Hearts for what it tries to do. As a famous anime subtitle once said: "Fun things are fun".

[@poprockcandy629]

Thank you so much for this

[@36inc]

To me kingdom hearts is like a daytime drama , a novella or something, from the outside its easy to dismiss it but for fans you get invested in the characters emotion so much that some of its big moments legit bring tears to my eyes, I know the score does a huge chunk of the work because I hear that piano from the start menu and I get tearyy eyed. its powerful because its focus is entirely there, ont he emotion of the thing. For me the game coulda ended when aqua and ventus and terra all got back together. I loved that portion of 3 so much and while yes I wish kairi wasnt done dirty saving aqua and ventus was such a high point for me it still got me crying. a game I was ultimately disappointed in still made me finish it. The same way that two made me cry when sora starts crying when he has to leave Roxas' friends. it really uses the power of trios to its advantage and thats what keeps people hooked. all that hackney writting that plots out the situations they end up in is entirely ok to me, because as long as it draws out that level of emotional pay off ima be into it. helps that its ina series that constantly moves forward mechanically. 2 might just be the best action rpg Ive ever played, I beat it over and over and over again and each time I cried at the same parts.

[@sekomanematjila1910]

I get hyped each time SimpGod's name comes up. Keep up the goodwork KBash.

[@brandonrogers60]

As a life long kingdom hearts fan from the very first release, i want to say thank you for these videos.

[@neonsilver1936]

I unironically LOVE the series (yes, even the spinoffs and weirdo entries) because of the story. I know fully that the game won't meet my ultimate expectations when it does resolve, but as one of those "theory crafters" who will "die on their hill of defending the franchise", the unanswered questions and open ends are what I love the most! I love digging in the lore, rewatching every single cutscene for the 1-line clues that reveal the whole mess, etc. because having those "aHA!" moments is just so gratifying in a series with such convolution. The games eventually explain what's going on in unambiguous terms, always, but they just have more to reveal, you know? The inclusion of the mobile game sucks, but I just know they'll re-release it for a console later on, take out the "gatcha" elements and just make it a normal game eventually so that it's accessible for everybody.

[@simonhylander1945]

Im surprised we take kingdom hearts so literal.

[@joshy-noha]

This is so true, I got into the series when I was like 13, so it was way easier to just dive into it, but I understand how hard it could be for newcomers. It's such a sweet and fun gaming franchise but the story and various systems you have to play them on are definitely reasons to put someone off the series. It's like a commitment, and you just have to have faith that you'll like it or you'll get it later on. And I get how that's just not viable for lots of people. So yeah, KH is such a unique franchise. It's good, but unnecessarily convoluted and hard to get into, shame.

[@gavinwright7076]

Fun fact I only got kingdom hearts the story so far cuz I looked at video summaries of it when 3 came out cuz I was curious but I didn't follow it no matter how much I watched so I just got the collection played it for myself and now it's my favorite rpg series

[@nocturnalcove9736]

Kingdom Heart's story is clumsy and goofy whilst taking itself so seriously. But its also unapologetic and confident in itself that I aspire for that level of confidence!

[@maxjustice1542]

I was watching this before the Smash Direct. I think about Chain of Memories. When I finished the game, I thought it was a nice adventure despite the issues. I wasn’t thinking too much about the story. I was reminded how much fun I had going through each world and bosses. Friends in the past did annoy me about the many inconsistencies of the story and gameplay. It’s what pushed me away from trying out the other games on my own. When I did try picking up the series again, I just started having good time. I appreciate this video. It help me understand why you and so many others enjoy the series. I’m going get back into it. Thank you.

[@jadeepicpgaming]

I think you put it best. KH is built on it's characters. As crazy and dumb as the story gets, the characters make up for all of that

[@XirkuKagi]

Thank you for this

[@don_shoti804]

Awww a bonus video

[@XiaNingTian]

Dabbled in KH1 on PS2 at release. Never really finished it. Saw a relative play the Hollow Bastion segment and that made me want to play it at the time. Fast forward to 2020 and I'm told all of Kingdom Hearts is on Xbox Game Pass. Having switched over to Xbox during the 360 years, I never played the rest of KH after 1. I then proceeded to binge everything from June to October playing nothing but all of the Kingdom Hearts games. It was a fantastic experience and I'd love to experience it all over again for the first time.

[@beepboop3659]

"Hey, (kingdom hearts writer 1) what enemy should Sora fight?" Kingdom Hearts Writer 1: drinks a gallon of beer "Super shadow ultimate Roxas Riku in the depths of hell of sora's mind" "I like it!"

[@sammienope9272]

Your last video on KH3 actually revived some of my forgotten love for the series. I was the console locked (PS2 only) kid and could only play the big three KH1, KH2, & KH Chain Of Memories. I didn't even finish KH1 or KHCM by the time I picked up 2 but my god... I fell in love. Filling in the plot holes with online friends watching YT fan videos and theorizing on Gaia Online. Going crazy on tumblr for Utada Hikaru. *KINGDOM HEART CRACK & KINGDOM HEART CRAZY FILES* Discovering some of my life long favorite bands through Kingdom Hearts AMV's (ADTR- Have Faith In Me _If you know, you know_ ). The ongoing debates on who was more useless: Donald or Goofy while someone in the back *scrEaMS* "KAIRI!!!" like they'd bet their life on it. I love this series. I love that Sora is _'floaty'_ . I love the colors and sense of overwhelming positivity that can't fade even in the most serious of moments in the series. You knew you would save your friends, because *THAT'S* what kind of game this IS! It doesn't need the hanging questions or the sense of real dread. This isn't The Last Of Us and it shouldn't be. It's a game about a kid fighting and playing with Disney Characters and Final Fantasy heartthrobs. You literally play Honey balloon popping games with Whinnie the Pooh and then fight with a reality shattering clone of an old (at the time) random Keyblade Master. This series is just *_home_* for a lot of people, and I love this home. I'm sincerely glad I never gave up on the series because it never stop showing me what fun meant, even 15 years later.

[@siphiwekaunda4032]

I got into the series by accident, I just saw it in a store then I wanted to play it out of curiosity and I got into the series. Really like it a lot and trying to play all the games in the series. My favourite so far is KH2.

[@del46_60]

This is a KH channel now, and I like it.

[@ReloGP14th]

Friend: Whats Kingdom hearts story? Me: Oh no

[@ZZAFRETZZ]

One thing I like about kh3's story is that it was pure fanservice.

[@DarkMuj]

Great assessment of the story, it was nuanced and fair. I think you could work more on editing your scripts. You have a tendency to use strange phrases and mixed metaphors. E.g. "Cups their hands around their collective misery" or "Final fantasy characters don't just interact with Disney characters, there's a story spoken between those lines" Just keep it simple dude.

[@SkilledYetTalentless]

How would you phrase them for the same message? I can see myself writing similar lines.

[@DarkMuj]

@@SkilledYetTalentless For the misery phrase I would opt for something like: "I'm not sure why the internet is so collectively miserable about this series" and for the other one I'd say "There's a real story which connects all of those interactions between the Final Fantasy and Disney characters" - just trying to keep it simple, no need to get all Judith Butler up in here amirite

[@zeosummers3984]

@@DarkMuj it doesn't have the same feel. it sounds like something you would write instead of just say. 1st one sounds like they don't like the game instead of trying to find something wrong with something they enjoy while the other sounds like characters are a stand in for story while the other feels more they are apart of the same universe and know each other.

[@xXEmo54Xx]

to truly understand everything takes a lot of commitment and dedication honestly. Going through each game initially and having your first perspective of what's happening only to read all of the secret files and have a greater understanding of background elements or further insight on things you may have been uninformed in as a player. Though something happens when you go back to retread what you alright thought you had an complete experience of and realize there are hints of future events that span years across releases in games. Things you'd dismiss and probably never think of assuming it was a throw away line and realizing much later that maybe these characters had a greater understanding of the situation than you expected and that moment changes your view on potentially the entire game. The cost up until the ps4 collection however was having to endure with only fractions of information until you could play and possibly rebeat games you hadn't touched yet to add to the structure of understanding you've created. Learning the depth of all these characters, understanding the importance of plot points or specific games in the series and in the end looking for purpose or meaning in their outcomes is what I think people really want. People want to learn secrets behind under represented characters hoping they're more than they seem, they wanna see growth and motivation, to know that this web of a plot line was subtly linking each hint across the many games. It's a fuckin mess and you need to be a shizo to put in the time and resources to truly understand every little detail even fully aware many things are pointless just for that tiny piece of meaningful input that answers even your smallest question or concern. Either way, I like it, i've had a good time

[@xXEmo54Xx]

@@roopereimi1718 you'd have to give examples really, some have a lot of depth and some just give greater background knowledge for motivations and maybe some character traits explained.

[@xXEmo54Xx]

@@roopereimi1718 the greater "oomph" comes from the devastation the primary antagonist endures and how he manipulated his way across the games while destroying the lives or even functionality of individuals in the pursuit to get what he wants. It's easy to see the game through what only sora can see but really it's the villains you need to pay attention to to get a greater enjoyment out of the series. The lives destroyed, the pain endured by so many attached to the main character even on the enemy side because even in kh2 the majority of them were manipulated. We can relate to the basic things like the sorrow of loss but we can't rationalize the means taken to end. It's why people were so emotional with the reunions and relief of the characters who had so much taken away from them. I feel like nobody pays attention to the true scope of the main villains destruction and the unnamed people who were sacrificed in the name of scientific discovery.

[@xXEmo54Xx]

@@roopereimi1718 This is why i go back to you need to be commited and dedicated to really understand the motivations like what would push terranort to kill and psychologically torture people which you need information from in dark road and bbs. what's the true driving factor behind vanitas' intentions which you need background knowledge in the books. Xemnas, ansem and YX are all different characters with different motivations and different struggles. They came from one person but all had their own personalities. Death in kh is typically not too severe because of the many rules to set up ways to come back but there are circumstances where when a piece of you detaches and becomes something all their own only for them to be forced back into an original person shows true annihilation. SoD and master xehanort had different goals but both of their deaths meant different things for the people who were involved and them themselves. The main story of kh is very easy to follow and understand, it's up to the person experiencing it to choose whether they wanna dive in and try to understands characters they may like. Ya like marluxia? Ok here's all this info on how he changed over the years, his relationships, why other characters treat him a specific way, why sora had specific reactions to things he experiences because of him and maybe even his nature in wanting to betray the organization. You didn't really need to know any of that and none of it changed the outcome of what happened to him but because you were interested you were rewarded with something deep and rich. Of course not all characters are treated the same and there's still a lot of speculation of two others in specific. MGS is similarly convoluted with games being locked to things people probably dont own anymore but people defend that and it's dumb time paradoxes or even the time travel in survive. I kinda compare it to dark souls which barely has a story but people will read literally any item to link any two names or locations to get a better understanding to the geography when it does nothing to impact the story. If people can put in the time to read a rock description then iunno, maybe you can read the 13 secret reports that literally explain everything you could ever wonder in each game.

[@shadowwarrior3444]

Union Cross is getting its 2 part finale, I think first part is the end of this month and the next part in May or June, then Dark Road itself will actually wrap up, and I believe in September, the entire story of the 2 will be released on mobile. Ironically, since I struggled to sit through the battle systems, I'm looking forward to it, since I'll probably need to know them to see what comes for the next big title.

[@jacktwelve1710]

Kingdom hearts is Xehanort

[@CarbyGuuGuu]

Everyone is Xehanort

[@puxtbuck6731]

I thought this said talking Talking Heads for a moment and I was pretty excited.

[@SATOhara3173]

The thing I love the most about this series is the non-linear storytelling. Going to fight Ansem barely understanding the world I live in to finally facing down Xehanort after understanding how the world functioned and how so many things were discovered along the way motivated me more than most plots ever could. Played every game. This franchise that shouldn't exist, that shouldn't work on paper, that shouldn't have a story like it does, hits me in a way absolutely nothing ever has.

[@SATOhara3173]

The beginning sunset in the original to the final sunset in III, every moment of the journey was totally worth it.

[@meowy2k]

i genuinely cried after watching this. it brought back memories of me begging my mom for the re:coded game since my household was religious and didn't want anything involving magic. i also only had a gamecube and ds at the time. but i would constantly watch playthroughs and cosplay fan content and etc, I practically breathed kh. i was in love with this series in my teens, it really stuck out to me and i loved seeing my favorite FF characters included in the story. it really did give me hope during a troubling time in my life. for a while I didn't like this series anymore and i felt kh3 nailed the coffin in my perspective. but I think this video gives great insight to the core of this game, brings attention to ourselves as players and consumers and why this game has its controversies rightly so.

[@NxTTxT]

as not only a longtime fan since 2002, but also as a fan who literally has bought every game on their original consoles and devices and has built up a tolerance to A LOT of this series' writing choices, I definitely agree with a lot of what you said. it's just an action game where your anime-sona bops around Disney worlds, and the plot mostly exists to give your characters a reason to bop around Disney worlds. it doesn't need to be an epic masterpiece in storytelling, it just needs to be a good game series. personally, i think the fact that KH is so preoccupied with even telling an interconnected story, even across different consoles, is what makes it unique from other game franchises. they really didn't have to put all of that effort into it, most game franchises don't even bother with trying to have an internal cannon because video games usually aren't trying to tell compelling stories. i think it's cool that they at least try to say something with these games.

[@juliantapia1407]

Nomura has allowed his flights of fancy to scar both ff15 and the trajectory of the kh series. I still want to love it, but kh isn't the same series, nor even plays the same type of way thanks to the Osaka team as well. It feels like drifting apart and away from a best friend

[@lukesmith8967]

Nice vid

[@EclipseHedgehog]

kh's story is very typical shonen. I'd say it can be finished with kh2 since most plot lines are wrapped up there, and the main characters goal which was to find his friends and get back to the island had been achieved, Riku's fight against the darkness and accepting who he was was also achieved. There was no want or need to become a "master" because to us; Riku and Sora were masters in their own right given how they handled the oh so powerful Xemnas. "but what about maleficent and pete?" what about them? the story doesn't even know what to do with them post this game all the way after kh3 and they are practically team rocket. characters actually stay dead and there's no awful "time travel" being tact on an already convoluted story. Nomura simply saw inception and went "we can make a kh game off of this." As much as I enjoyed how broken the characters of birth by sleep were, the follow up to them in kh3 felt lackluster and rushed. did their story needed to be told? Perhaps. But it was just revenge of the sith but with keyblades. I don't like the concept of the "ice cream trio", but Roxas is my favorite character and him returning with more confidence in his voice as if he finally grew up was probably my favorite part in kh3. I'd accept him as a spirit who enjoys his time with Namine though as well. why don't I like the ice cream trio? because axel became more annoying later down the line and I despise Xion because 1. She's a Mary sue and 2. we've had enough sora clones. 3. Xion exists only to make poor Roxas's life more miserable than it already is. but w/e, it is what it is, I've grown to accept it and moved on. this series is almost 20 years old, no use in harping over it lol.

[@christianlopez707]

Honestly rather then trying to build up KH3 I think they should have used it start out a new story.

[@PathBeyondTheDark]

That's the problem I have with everyone who claims it has "meaning." What meaning it has is completely stolen from another genre and medium all together that is predominently sold to the same demographic. What does this mean? It means it is copy and pasted because it works. It is not unique, it is a dime a dozen. You can get the exact same "meaning" from better written stories elsewhere. Because of this, it is not a valid defense.

[@genyakozlov1316]

@@PathBeyondTheDark There isn't such thing as a "better written story" because writing quality is subjective, and actually mostly means "it did/didn't work for me". There can not be a better written story, because whether the story IS well written or not is in the eyes of the beholder.

[@PathBeyondTheDark]

@@genyakozlov1316 Not true, not entirely anyway. There are those who have studied writing, written countless pieces on it, and to suggest they have absolutely no credibility is laughable. Yes, it is *mostly* subjective. But what these scholars agree on is generally accepted as credible guidelines.

[@laststrike4411]

How is Xion a Mary Sue? Honestly asking.

[@NotoriousFoxxx]

God i love the kh story experience. Its so damn good :)

[@ascended313]

Not every story needs to be well written, just delivering a message.

[@retired2068]

the story was kinda crazy but extremely solid and emotional up until dream drop distance, where square butchered my favourite villain (xemnas) and made everything 10 times more complicated then it should of been.

[@sarthakarora3212]

he is the same in jp version though

[@SSFighter1701]

Aaaaand there was a "Just a Pancake" reference thrown in. How fun.

[@JaceAce22]

It's admirable how he's become a representative of the fandom by dissecting the entire Kingdom Hearts narrative into small enough pieces to fit into digestible nutshells

[@ultrixsoma2736]

@@JaceAce22 Ok, i believe you.

[@benjamingiddens6758]

Always have fun with the KH story, regardless of most convolution. For some reason I love KH3 on top of it all

[@freakyfro99]

This might be the first time my name has been used in a random example lmao

[@paperboy1116]

When I saw this notification my heart stopped. Thankfully, he managed to keep a cool head the entire time... somehow.

[@JapanFreak2595]

What is playing while he was reading the patreon names?

[@luxo2309]

Good video

[@Invaderbob7]

I stumbled upon the series

[@kortizgrahamajixworld0384]

Hey kbash I like this series thanks telling what in your chest. Because people in the internet just yeah but thanks those.

[@iggyp4390]

Enjoyed this video a lot, good job! The story of the KH series, as of this moment, is a story of artistic vision, passion and love ruined by cynical business practices. Kingdom Hearts’ magic ultimately comes from its sincerity. It’s a totally absurd premise which takes itself, its drama and its characters seriously, and that’s why players have become so immersed and emotionally invested in the series over the past 17 years. KH3 is a demarcation point for the series. I like to call it Nomura’s Mark of Mastery Exam, because it was his chance to show players what KH actually means to him. Prior to this, we’d only recently had the handheld titles, which-while fun-were held back in scope by technological limitations. Birth by Sleep had a strong story, but how much stronger might it have been if it had been a PS2 game as originally intended? DDD was mainly just a celebration of the series 10th anniversary, so story was really a secondary priority for that game. In both of these games, players were able to overlook certain story flaws and shortcomings because they were just “side games,” even if they connected directly to the main series’ plot. Now, to quote DDD: “This leads to KH3.” Underlying all the handheld games post-KH2 was the knowledge that there would be a KH3 someday, a game which would properly continue Sora’s journey as a character and return to the magical, big adventure which has always been the series’ namesake. KH3 is one of the main reasons fans supported all the handhelds, buying entire consoles to show SquareEnix there was demand for the series, to encourage the company to actually make the game fans truly wanted. Square-Enix was very aware of fans’ dedication to the Kingdom Hearts story, and realized they could turn KH3’s release into a big event. They even added a new secret ending teaser for KH3’s story in the rereleased KH2.8. It undeniable that Square was marketing KH3 around its story. Surely they would put most of their effort towards delivering a grand story finale for the Dark Seeker Saga.... But when the time finally came, one of the most anticipated moments in gaming history, Square-Enix decided to treat KH3 as a total afterthought so they could focus their efforts on FFVIIR, going so far as to make Nomura the director of FFVIIR. Additionally, they imposed a ridiculous engine switch on KH3’s console-inexperienced dev team, and we know from Nomura’s interviews that they delayed approving his resource requests for KH3. So after all this time, after all this financial support from fans (KH has not been an inexpensive series to follow), after waiting 13 years for Square-Enix to acknowledge the series is worth investing big money in...this is how the company says thank you. After knowing how important this game, story and characters are to KH fans-and exploiting them for extra cash (to give to FF7R lol)-they deliver a game that doesn’t even have one single full-size original story world. To be fair to Nomura, writing is challenging to begin with. Writing a complete script with multiple interconnected story threads in between grueling days at the office directing FFVIIR (with the added stress of knowing that the company’s future all but hinged on the success of that game) would be overwhelming for any artist. But as writer and director, he has to take responsibility for the work he delivered. After 13 years of teasing KH3, this was his chance to finally make it, to give fans a true payoff for their investment-financially and emotionally. I do not believe he did. It is heartbreaking, because prior to KH3 I regarded Kingdom Hearts’ story very highly. It reminds me of both Classic Disney and Classic FF. But if the creator and company do not care about giving this series, story and characters the treatment and respect they deserve, why should the fans?

[@roxas1802]

You never miss with your comments 👍🏾

[@iggyp4390]

@@roxas1802 Thanks, that means a lot! I know I’m just screaming into the void, but it’s honestly out of respect and admiration for the series, devs and Nomura.

[@nuruddinshah684]

"Square-Enix decided to treat KH3 as a total afterthought so they could focus their efforts on FFVIIR," i argee BUT FF7R is......how in the world i'm gonna say this..... We KH fan is that new hot girl in town while FF7R is there WIFE. A part of me want to blame but a part of also say don't O.o "KH has not been an inexpensive series to follow" INEXPENSIVE YOU SAY Sure if get the collection but what about those to REALLY spent more on all those "Spin-Off" they just got SUCKER so bad. Question from Iggy P Did you get remind? got anything to say about it? After 3 I just check-out.

[@laststrike4411]

@@nuruddinshah684 did you miss the double negative?

[@unita4084]

Ok I believe you.

[@jshap6551]

nice vid

[@xenokingdom3630]

I think that this video focuses FAR too much on limited perception. I don't know what KBash's social circle looks like, but it seems almost universally consistent of people who play Kingdom Hearts "despite" it's story or those who think it's, at best, "fun". I think that is an unfair, but more so, INACCURATE take on these games' fans. Many Kingdom Hearts fans are genuinely moved by these games, and while the writing is not excellent, it can be effective at eliciting an emotional response from the viewer. This video seems to categorize those fans into the extremist "theorists" group, but that's simply untrue. There can certainly be some overlap, don't get me wrong. But a lot of people who play this series aren't constantly rolling their eyes or dismissing the plot as "fun/serviceable", just as they aren't super-theorists for genuinely liking these games' plot. This video gives off the impression of the latter, so I think it's really inaccurate in terms of addressing fan response. Whoever KBash was looking towards, it seems that they're more willing to wallow in the negative than is normal for the wider audience.

[@AXMdoes]

I don't really blame him, the group that likes KH('s story) while calling it terrible is overwhelmingly large and they try their hardest to let everyone know. It really sucks.

[@onimaxblade8988]

This has some accuracy. Me personally I understand those people who genuinely love it, and am very weirded out by them. Cause with the early games, the games up till Days... It's just *bliss*. The first Kingdom Hearts is kind of flawless story-telling wise to me. And the first times with the other games except for DDD, I did *feel* a lot at least. I kinda loved a fair amount of it, it's more with time and separation that I start to pick them apart more, aside from very obvious problems *like* Frozen, or *like* Kairi not getting to at least put up a fight before being bamfed. Like Birth By Sleep, from pretty much all sides, used to be loved a lot more by me and other fans, it was more over time that the conversation changed and picked out the problems more. I don't think KBash though, btw, was entirely trying to paint the overall fanbase as just "having fun" with the games. It's more like you have to roll with them, critical of them or not, loving it or not. I don't think either that he meant every big fan of the games was a theorist. Though I dislike the disses toward the speedrunners. Those guys get so much shade and are so misunderstood by the community, it's gross, so I'm not a fan of KBash kinda writing them off too. Another thing, is I get the impression that he thinks a lot of more critical fans are kinda trying to be a bit pompous about the series? Maybe just a bit. Even though, for the most part, he's making a lot of the same criticisms our types make. I might be wrong though, cause one of the categories, the last he named, was more about "appreciating what's there, but recognizing some flaws", and he said he slotted in mostly there.

[@gothtaku6666]

Agreed people definitely focus on the Negative aspects and the the Bad Stuff and Intentionally or Unintentionally Neglect the Gold mine of Good narrative writing and Symbolism and the emotional stuff to and people I see are mostly willing to Put up with other so called convoluted or overly complicated Games but Kingdom Hearts for them is crossing the line for some baffling reason

[@diondwamena6667]

Well generally the wider audience will receive it a little better as they have stuck with the series thus long but generally I think the writing quality of KH3 especially the end falls off and they use character moments to evoke an emotional response and whilst the seas salt trio(despite problems with the build up to the scene). Yet the scene where Sora talks to Vanitas just shows poor nuance and frankly poor writing. Vanitas a being literally born from the darkness is asked by Sora why darkness? What does that mean, I know Sora is stupid when it comes to most things but he cannot even understand his perspective and constantly berates Xemnas until his death yet he completely forgives and buys into Xehanort's reasons for what he has done and Eraqus forgives him. Even the latter on it's own is barely acceptable. The characters themselves have not had enough meaningful conversation and dialgue apart from "forging the x-blade to develop any relation apart from plot. KH has put all it's chips on plot despite it having little character development outside of Riku and a few others who Nomura decided to pick on. Despite becoming a master Riku has never looked weaker in any game. He cannot beat a demon tower, Aqua completely trounces him. He is only in the story for exposition. The use of characters demonstrated that Nomura had little clue what to do with most of them.

[@devinoliverson8792]

Can you explain terra battle

[@Cwestlov]

Does anyone know the song in the end credits?

[@skipatrolslayer]

It's The Cliftlands from the Octopatch Traveler soundtrack. Excellent soundtrack all around. :)

[@matthewbreytenbach4483]

Great essay! For me the game that handled the Disney realms the best was the first one simply because they treated the incursion of parasitic forces from another dimension as a catastrophe. Like where the plots of Aladdin and the Little Mermaid were actually derailed, in Mermaid's case before the actual movie plot could even begin. But the second and third games chicken out of causing serious ripples. Like Ursula being the antagonist of Atlantica in KH2 despite being very dead at the end of the last game.

[@GigasGalvantula]

you kinda can't use the arguement of inaccesibility anymore due to them all being on the ps4 pretty cheap to for most of them, while yes that was true for a very long time it hasn't been since 1.5 2.5 and 2.8 came out

[@GigasGalvantula]

however you can use the arguement that people don't have that tyope of time with how long each is

[@65firered]

He mentions this within the first 5 minutes. Besides, while KH3 is on XBO the others are not, this inherently requires you to have PS4 to catch up in the series.

[@GigasGalvantula]

@@65firered he then also hammers in the point of inaccessibility at the end of the video which is kinda hypocritical to what he said at the start

[@65firered]

@@GigasGalvantula His point is that it's not easy to get into if you aren't already familiar with the game order or own The Story So Far and All in One Package. It's not black and white, "this is how it always is", he's pointing out a possible issue for those who aren't already familiar with the series.

[@GigasGalvantula]

@Anton Magnusson the movie one is highly incorrect, thats litterally only Re:codeds movie bit, which yeah is dumb, but Days movies gives so much substance when it comes to movie but also fails as it strips so much context from the actual game and that's what tutorials are used for when learning new combat systems, Not every Tales of Game uses the same combat system not every Final Fantasy uses the same combat system, why should KH be forced to stick with a single gameplay system. just pointint out this happens elsewhere It kinda shows how much you actually know when looking into it if you think both cutscene collections are rehashes one is, the other isn't as it only really has the clocktower scenes for the most part with few exceptions

[@astripedgoon6579]

The way that I view the story of kh is that it doesn't need to make any logical sense. It's about emotional logic, or emotional pay off, and it fits a series all about hearts where hearts are in everything, can connect other across space, cause time travel, enter dreams, and literally anything else. I guess I'm being lazy by just ignoring many of the small details that don't get properly explained, but i never really cared about the fine details of xehanorts plots. Instead it was how his plots affected the characters that I cared about. Still nice points, its always interesting hearing different takes on kh's story.

[@TinTinPlays]

Okay i belive you

[@DSoulA3]

A few weeks before KH3 came out, I decided not to get it and just watch the cutscenes because I felt like nomura didn't know what he was doing from what I saw in the last few trailers. Rules set up were being broken, statements made by the man were just not true, and playing or getting involved with the chi series didn't matter in terms of KH3 for the most part. I was upset after seeing the last bits of the game and was annoyed that all Re:mind did was be an advertisement for the next saga rather than tie lose ends for 3. Like you said, nomura just keeps going regardless and fans just need to let it go. But I felt like 8 years of my life at to that point was wasted on the series. Yeah, I did want to hear your opinion on the story, but I was so happy that you were having fun ith it Kbash. This video did bring me back to reality though. As a fan of Kingdom Hearts since late 2010, I've been worried about the series since 2013 when the chi series started. Thank you for basically saying "but why though?" Lol The game play is still great, Characters are still cool, and Disney as well as FF now has just been a cash grab. At the end of the day, kingdom hearts is a journey about a boy with a keyblade and his weird duck and dog getting into crazy Disney X Final Fantasy shenanigans while making friends along the way. Ain't nothing wrong with that.

[@normalguycap]

It's bad when it's cynically made. kH3 wasn't ultimately much more than an advertisement for the next thing. The fact that it took them a decade to make KH3 means they never had a vision for it. They put in the token elements of the franchise without caring what or why kh1 and kh2 were great.

[@DSoulA3]

@@normalguycap yeah. Every game set up something else rather than build on what the series had. BBS started it and 3D made it worse.

[@normalguycap]

@@DSoulA3 I also agree with that.

[@diondwamena6667]

@@DSoulA3 The writing quality from BBS took a huge dip, that's for sure

[@DSoulA3]

@@diondwamena6667 I didn't realize that until I replayed it in the remixes. BBS was something new and I thought it would be the game before KH3....until it wasn't. Lol

[@echorealtz2157]

6:00 okay i believe you

[@wka7009]

Yay!

[@tvsizedanimechannel7288]

What is the door to light oh it leads to the realm of light

[@Zayindjejfj]

You mean to tell me there's darkness within darkness?

[@TimmysohnLP]

I always thought KH is best when you just lean back and enjoy the ride. Even tough I really like to dive deep into the story.

[@kozongaming6748]

Me: *Watches video.* Kbash: “...There’s Jordan...” 6:19 Me: *Almost chokes on food, after hearing my name* Is he psychic or something?! XD

[@that_damn_kiddo]

Not to forget, there literally 3 Deus Ex Machina's all in the span of like 20-30 minutes when you first reach the Keyblade Graveyard. And what sucks most is, I would have been more forgiving of they were rearranged in a better method.

[@celineoneida7077]

Okay... _i BeLiEvE yOu_

[@armandosantiago9572]

11:38 Where is this cutscene from? I don't recognize it I'm guessing it's melody of memories

[@starplayah1572]

Melody of memory

[@armandosantiago9572]

@@starplayah1572 thank you

[@LuckiSir]

I wanna be like Francis, he’s an inspiration to me

[@trapsrus5611]

Although I wasn't a fan of the 3rd game or some of the spin offs, I have always enjoyed the story to the game. Yes at times it can be cheesy but its the fact that I've grown up with kingdom hearts. I still remember when kh1 first came out playing it on with ps2 with my brother. As we grew so did the character with every new arc. We grow together.

[@roiitzkovich4545]

6:01 I CANNOT BELIEVE YOU JUST DID THAT!!!!!!!!! Oh wait I said it too.