The Madness of Crowds? Julia Hartley-Brewer meets Douglas Murray

Julia Hartley-Brewer meets author, Douglas Murray in the second episode of her new series, Inside the News. The two discuss his new book, The Madness Of Crowds: Gender, Race and Identity.
Douglas Murray examines the twenty-first century's most divisive issues: sexuality, gender, technology and race. He reveals the astonishing new culture wars playing out in our workplaces, universities, schools and homes in the names of social justice, identity politics and 'intersectionality'.
#juliahartleybrewer #douglasmurray

[@amybarlow3045]

Douglas Murray is one of the clearest and most articulate thinkers of our time

[@craigfowler7098]

Agreed, up there with JP

[@Ann-qf5vk]

👍👍👍

[@fartloudYT]

@@craigfowler7098 JP was consistently very clear in his explanations if you take his old lecture material, however, in recent years, especially after his benzo stage, he often gets lost and consumed by his own articulative way of speaking and has difficult time getting the point across. sometimes, he does, but very very often he does not.

[@kevincasson9848]

He's good. However he would be first to acknowledge the late great Christopher, Hitchens as ' The Man!

[@kevincasson9848]

​​@@craigfowler7098No. Up there with CH. The late briiant, Christopher Hitchens ❤

[@davidwilliams9504]

This intelligent man represents the majority of people in this country who are unheard.

[@mauricecooper6134]

He's just brilliant..AND..RIGHT.

[@Bear-vf3pl]

Absolutely agree with David Williams and Maurice Cooper's comments . Douglas Murray is wonderful , so glad he shares his views and knowledge with us , thank you .

[@P.willow]

What I am most grateful for is that he is in our lifetime. Amongst all the total trash and utterly ridiculous minds living in the same world as ours it's wonderful we can help ourselves to exist by reading his books and listening to wise people like him. My son was in his teen yrs when he started reading his books and it set him on a path of reading, teaching himself about the world by listening to Douglad Murray and thinking sense abilities that will last a lifetime..

[@8papillons]

I so agree with you. His deep understanding of basic human condition is astounding. And his ability to communicate , there are no words.

[@jamesstevenson1296]

The conservative agenda is extremely limited by the lack of intelligent argument and the inability of its supporters to articulate the ideology. DM stands as an exception.

[@lewisedmundscomposer]

We need more people like Douglas and Julia! Here we are, approaching 4 years since this interview, and we are in an even darker and more dangerous place. Everything they said would happen, has happened. It is extremely worrying.

[@19thnervousbreakdown80]

Agreed. The problem with judging people by "the content of their character" is that unlike in the 70s and 80s, it's now a settled debate. Some groups and communities have been proven to be totally lacking in character or any redeeming quality. One community in my opinion is a monolith of bad actors and poor characters. They can no longer wished to be judged by their character because they have none. I imagine MLK knew this at the time but hoped with time they'd overcome. It's utterly depressing and wholly hilarious to see them try to pretend.

[@jakeharrison6603]

Is there anyone out there who doubts this guy is a genius. Douglas Murray is so clearly the voice of reason, yet people still try to cancel and silence him.

[@paulinegauthier1867]

But he has the guts not to be silenced! I so appreciate his intelligence, how articulate he is and how brave he is in the face of this endless craziness..

[@jerryoshea3116]

​@@paulinegauthier1867There's a interview he just did with Lex Fridman..I only watched some of it, but def worth viewing!

[@user-fi1ls4je7l]

Julia is great to listen to aswell. How rare it is now to listen to a good well rounded sensible thoughtful conversation. Even if you don’t agree with everything everyone ever says 😂😂 it’s ok honest 😂

[@luciamarston8804]

THATS WHY.

[@luciamarston8804]

To me, Julia Hartley Interrupts and runs with what Douglas is already saying. I think that she is a most IRRITATING Interviewer... Apart from the very fast-talking, tall, NARCISSISTIC, Iranian, I believe woman. She Went for Douglas on a Q&A panel of 4-5. She is the Most IRRITATING PITBULL by far.

[@musicwithguitars]

You know it’s not the BBC when 2 people in a room have common sense

[@rogerclark3229]

Stop lying Textured Music. And stop hiding behind a fake name as you lie.

[@kaptainhammer]

How far we've come... As I used to look to the BBC for some non biased opinion. That was 25 years ago

[@chrisc7265]

@@rogerclark3229 yes stop lying Textured Music. We all know it's you, _90s heartthrob Jonathan Taylor Thomas_

[@upmperthay]

X-D !!

[@Saddamuel]

@@kaptainhammer I imagine you have changed and the BBC has changed but do you think there's a chance the BBC and various media organisations were never much good? They may be bad in different ways today, but at least we have other sources of information which can help us see when they are only telling half the story or fibbing about the other half. I'll answer my own question, it's probably a bit of both.

[@eamoinnmckinley3755]

Douglas Murray a voice of sanity among the wailing of one world maniacs.

[@chrisneedham5803]

Douglas Murray 'The only voice' worth listening to

[@forearthbelow]

@@chrisneedham5803 Agree but would add Sargon to that very small group, + David Starkey

[@simonclare100]

his last book was brilliant I have no doubt this one will be spot on and it is on order, he gives me hope for the return of sanity and the awakening amongst the young

[@chrisneedham5803]

@@forearthbelow ....... 100%👍

[@shastflamearashi6428]

well stated Euphemism.

[@dfor8763]

I’m a middle aged woman, who loves Douglas Murray. I could listen to him forever.

[@irisehrich6025]

I am a nearly 70 old german woman and I would be happy to have such a brilliant thinker in Germany. An english Gentleman at it's best

[@barriehorner8994]

Me too

[@pbwbrian53]

I’m an old straight white man and would love to have a few beers with this dude.

[@user-uj6ru3bb6s]

1st time listening to Douglas Murray. 12 minutes in and he already reminds me of Alan Watts. As a creative activist (through the medium of music) I feel compelled to fully explore this rabbit hole. This is a war against global attrition on reason itself. Abandoning reason is mental illness itself. Thank you for being true human beings 🙏

[@Aaron-df6jc]

I’m a retired Canadian woman who loves to listen to him debate and speak - absolutely brilliant ♥️🇨🇦

[@daleunwin2672]

The saddest thing about this conversation is that not enough people have seen it. Respect to them both.👍🏻

[@unavailable2204]

Nope, the saddest thing about this is that it is being discussed at all.

[@alisonbrown2614]

That's what I thought. It should be shown in all schools. Excellent discussion.

[@lynneweddle7254]

@@alisonbrown2614 but it never will!!!

[@alisonbrown2614]

@@lynneweddle7254 Probably not!

[@highwaystar3780]

The SaddeR thing is the People who Watched it/will Watch it are Already of Sound mind !

[@davidknight2104]

Love Douglas Murray a very brave man who simply speaks common sense in a mad world

[@bedebill]

bit more than common sense

[@loriswafford4672]

a welcome change

[@cinderelladevil1687]

I think that most people would agree with him, but the media are paid for showing us otherwise. There is also the fear to speak up, but that does not mean that common sense is not widespread, just that it has been sent to clandestinity.

[@megmartel6005]

And we need both DM and TR

[@66wow99]

Katie Hopkins spoke about her private conversations with journalists and how they're held hostage in their jobs; that they dare not speak out for fear of reprisal and loss of income. How sad...

[@vibemunster]

So refreshing to see two intelligent people talking frankly about the stupidity of modern society.

[@martinloney6322]

Can anyone suggest an era which was more stupid than the one we find ourselves in now?

[@Rose-zn5ql]

@@martinloney6322Ancient Rome?

[@martinloney6322]

@@Rose-zn5ql Close but not quite as insane.

[@user-pk6qr7sm3b]

Yes and Yes. They are smart and describing the current situation accurately.

[@ronaldreagan-ik6hz]

This lady needs to be a debate moderator!!! Praise to her!

[@ronaldreagan-ik6hz]

It was refreshing to see douglas treated respectfully for a change.

[@mrkiplingreallywasanexceed8311]

Yes it was - I wrote a separate Comment to say that so often he's introduced into the proceedings as a talking head - so you get sound bites, or he's held up as this raging old Tory in a very adversarial setting. I remarked that it was so good to be able to see him set out his stall and not have people constantly interrupting him with straw man arguments constantly trying to twist his words and frame them in ways he did not intend. This chat has significantly changed the way I see him

[@Lawrence-ui1hv]

Douglas Murray and Julia Hartley-Brewer in conversation. Brilliant! They should have a weekly slot.

[@remkojerphanion4686]

@Lord Christmas And I must be a Nazi sympathiser for liking your comment

[@olgasavage5841]

@Kojii Naz yasmin Abigail ,,,,, modern Britain MSM sees fit have her on TV all time ,,enough said

[@skitz37chiltz21]

Definetly it would be a hit definetly💯

[@sueelmy822]

Douglas Murray is a Much needed voice in todays craziness

[@greyhound2401]

I envy this man's eloquence, his compassionate, critical oversight and understanding of the world we are drowning in. Thank you Douglas Murray.

[@Ann-qf5vk]

👍👍👍

[@uberbeast113]

You seem quite eloquent to me, and I bet you share the other positive qualities you are projecting onto this guy. eg most people reject and pretend to despise qualities they secretly envy. You clearly don't, which shows great self acceptance and potential for awareness of your own limitations. This is the basis for compassion. So, I don't buy it 😜

[@SassyO100]

Um envy or admire??

[@SassyO100]

Even inspired 🙏🏽

[@SassyO100]

@@uberbeast113🙏🏽

[@christineperkins4451]

I love Douglas Murray, the voice of reason in a world of madness

[@karmakarl6673]

As a gay man I find this dialogue very refreshing. I find myself at odds with some of the identity politics swirling around in the gay "community". There's a dangerous neo liberal fascism which is extremely disturbing and I salute those who counter this extremism with balanced and reasoned argument.

[@lisas595]

Well said Karl. As a woman, I am equally horrified by the neo-feminist movement which dictates that women are better than men and I am astonished to find that even some men seem to have fallen into submission and have accepted that it is socially acceptable for women to ridicule, belittle and put men (as a group entity) down and yet it is unacceptable for women to be criticised for this (unacceptable apparently because they tells us that we women are a suppressed group!). Regardless of our gender, sexuality, race, or religious identities, we are INDIVIDUALS first and foremost and should be judged as an individual.

[@mezzuna]

My cousin who is a one of my closest friends came out last year in an extremely religious conservative family who are all close. He did in fact face a bit of stigma if im honest and I felt awful about it. But I've asked him and he's not even really sure that there is such thing as an 'lgbt' community. Would you agree? I meant I don't see any trans and lesbian friend groups at the cinema. Most of his friends are straight, he certainly doesn't select for an identity group. Is that a thing in your experience? Sorry for personal questions but this is fairly anonymous

[@mezzuna]

@@georger64 thank you for your well thought out and considerable response. I've got his book on my Amazon and next time I send in an order I'm going to buy it. Sounds like if left to it the various shades of far left would gobble eachother up. In Soljinitzins Archipelago he describes all the various opposing factions of communism being rounded up after red October. But hey, utopia is never more than a few massacres away from being realised and everyone can finally live the Marxist dream

[@shaykearney4638]

Thank God for people like you. I'm straight, marched with gay friends for gay rights back in the 80s but a good movement has gone too far to the other side. To the point that it's not good for anyone. Love to you all.X

[@seanp8220]

They are all dangerous commies. Pride excluded UKIP years back I Knew it was being used politically to ignore civil unrest

[@Mute040404]

Discussions like this should be widely available on MSM.

[@pentreifan3905]

It's on MSM. Douglas Murray is ubiquitous

[@rossdunlop8599]

What a fantastic discussion about why we are such a mess with this identity madness

[@aquatroy]

"We can play the game endlessly, because it's unresolvable." Brilliant

[@ginabideau3748]

Wow,so great to see Douglas back.

[@davidoshea73]

He looks very thin, was he ill?

[@enzedbrit]

I’ve missed him as well

[@algarvemike]

Are you watching BBC, this is a proper interview. This is how most people think in the UK. Some good old-fashioned sense of mind.

[@kazuyar]

I agree, did you see the way Julia asked a question and then let him answer? very rare these days

[@frankday1234]

They probably were watching. That would explain why they've not mentioned.

[@Macheako]

"This is how most people think in the UK." And yet.....all of Europe over seems to find itself in this STEAMING PILE OF BEAUCRATIC SHIT..... Take it from an American. Ya not THAT smart, bloke ;)

[@peterholden9357]

David Calow - Its an opinion piece dressing up as an interview

[@7shelties]

Matthew Morton Don’t get to cocky Matthew. We are going the same direction.😑

[@earthamcdermott3253]

So refreshing to hear two intellignent people having a rational and humane conversation.

[@karinelaxa959]

Douglas is a gem ❤

[@ftroop2000]

Could listen to both of them for hours

[@andyhousley78]

Superb conversation! This should be aired in schools, colleges and universities throughout the UK

[@GasFinger1]

That will.never happen it would risk people being properly educated

[@jostencline6443]

throughout the US as well

[@democraticdialogue7271]

Andrew, I'm always screaming at the top of my lungs about the issue Douglas discusses, people agree with me privately, however, they refuse to speak out in public.

[@skitz37chiltz21]

I'm gonna sit down with my teenage daughter and watch this again definetly💯👏

[@thestraightroad305]

Andrew Housley And the US. And Canada. And Australia, New Zealand....

[@saltchuckwest]

Love love love Julia Hartley-Brewer. Best interview of Douglas Murray ever. From 2019.....even truer today in 2024

[@BenGreggSweden]

Thank God there are still people left in this world who are capable of rational thinking and able engage in constructive dialogue!

[@featherbrain7147]

As an elderly white male, this is so great to hear! It articulates stuff I have felt but didn't know how to define, and I thought there was something wrong with me.

[@simonclare100]

exactly right

[@richardhaynes5793]

Well said sir, me too.

[@featherbrain7147]

@Mactrip100 Thanks! Yes, I'm gammon.

[@babooshka1963]

You are not alone - bless you

[@mogznwaz]

I'm only 47 but I know exactly how you feel. You're not alone xx

[@georger64]

27:51 there‘s a great cartoon about this, a black guy saying to a white guy “You were never judged by the color of your skin!“ and the white guy says “I just was.“

[@hedkandicaine]

👏👏👏👏

[@foppo100]

The racism in the U.K Is white against white people that is sinister.

[@senatorjosephmccarthy2720]

They planned a million- white -man March on Washington DC. Nobody showed up. They were working.

[@utv5490]

@@senatorjosephmccarthy2720 Do you mean by that quote that white people in America are not politically motivated?

[@utv5490]

What a pointless quote!!!!

[@P.willow]

This is the very reason why Julia won an award for her interviews she's so pragmatic , sensible, real and because of these things and her intelligence I watch her regularly.😊

[@alisonbrown2614]

Brilliant discussion. I hope that most of us agree with all these issues and that there are more of us than we know.

[@bules6790]

Douglas Murray is well overdue a question time appearance

[@garethhughes7528]

He would not be given the chance to speak. Whatever assembled lefties are out on the panel would interrupt and shout him down with record levels.of venom and volume.

[@babayaga9443]

THE BBC COULD NOT JUSTIFY HAVING HIM ON ANY BBC PROGRAM AFTER ALL HE TELLS THE TRUTH AND THE TRUTH DOES NOT FIT THE NARRATIVE OF THE ESTABLISHMENT.......

[@rogerwoodhouse7945]

Children' raised ' by two lesbians or homsexuals will be a burden to the state later in life.We are meddling with human lives and the very core of our being.The 'left- will just continue with their challenge to alter our way of life untill the ultimate happens.The eventual demise of the human species as we knew it.

[@williammccormick2903]

Mactrip100 he's been on question time.

[@bules6790]

@@williammccormick2903 I know but not for at least 2 years.

[@lucytvlucytv9416]

I love Douglas, SO much COMMON SENSE. Please..... Bring back COMMON SENSE!!

[@pommiebears]

LucyTV LucyTV it’s in short supply these days. And, when you actually speak common sense, you’re called a “boomer” as if that’s bad. Lol. I’d rather be anything other than useless, which is what a great portion of younger people are these days. Not all....but quite a few, 😂. Happy new year.

[@MrAppie9090]

Make no mistake, "woke culture" is dying off. It simply cannot endure, people start to see that placating to these nutjobs is suicide, that they're attacking eachother for the dumbest shit. It will die in the mainstream, after that it's just important to get it out of the universities.

[@michaelzeffertt]

We are probably incapable of bringing back what was very rarely ever there.

[@jackiebarlow4920]

Always nice to listen to these two intelligent people in a world that is going completely mad. 👍

[@redsea6266]

If only we had leaders in establishments with the intelligence and common sense of Douglas Murray - always a pleasure to listen to.

[@omalone1169]

26:00 exactly blacks sold another

[@patrickliu822]

Those leaders are intelligent, but they are corrupted.

[@c172215s]

@@patrickliu822 Then they are really not that intelligent in the big picture.

[@richardmackenzie6964]

If you take a woman and cut her balls off, is she still a woman ?

[@honeybunch6473]

Thats why centre right wing parties will grow

[@Nogin1972]

Nice, two of my favourite people on screen together 👌

[@abigailslade3824]

Same 👍

[@SD-rq2ob]

Could not agree more.

[@tonys518]

Absolutely.

[@stevedoughty1941]

Quite exquisite isn't it, two people being civil to each other for a change.. I wonder if it could catch on??

[@stevedoughty1941]

@Boris Farage OK friend.

[@seanp8220]

I will be buying this book

[@stevena3244]

I will be buying this book, and so will my wife's boyfriend.

[@seanp8220]

@@stevena3244 I've bought that book.

[@stevena3244]

@@seanp8220 Nice😊

[@astorrian6247]

Buy the book and introduce it to your children... they are our future... the brainwashing has to stop.

[@DekkarJr]

@@astorrian6247 And don't overindulge your kids, that produces the entitlement that has plagued milenials!

[@dowth3]

Wonderful points raised, and sadly in 2023, they're still at the forefront. I could say a lot, but instead, I'll simply say THANK YOU to the host and guest.

[@johnmartin5240]

It’s a pleasure to hear a conversation that brings a ancient word lost in time called TRUTHFULNESS.. And during the interview Julia doesn’t interrupt so much.

[@Broonzied]

This much sanity in under 1 hour will lead to quite a few heads exploding.

[@markscouler2534]

If lammy, owen jones, o brian and foggy watch this they will all explode

[@loriswafford4672]

LOOLL

[@almumbai7640]

@@daveerwin6981 there not taking over shit being less than 1% of the population. Not everybody watches bbc you know

[@Lukeandrewscarnivore]

dave erwin I hope this post is satire 😂

[@reasonablespeculation3893]

Ms. Hartley-Brewer needs to shut up long enough for Mr. Murray to set up his perspective and deliver his point.... He is getting no traction. She yaps too much.. Douglas is a deep thinker.

[@juliusoba6488]

This is a constant conversation I’ve been having with my children. I consider it my duty to fight against this evil indoctrination.

[@Toasty5386]

Sounds like you’re the one indoctrinating

[@janbrian7307]

@@Toasty5386 So you have been captured by this ideology then? 😢 that you can’t think for yourself 🤷‍♀️

[@juleshunt3521]

Me too - but it's hard to fight indoctrination

[@juleshunt3521]

​@@Toasty5386A ridiculous comment

[@newtoniantime8804]

Great goal. I have no kids, but I gladly fight by your side against this madness

[@ronaldreagan-ik6hz]

My god it’s refreshing to listen to a woman that’s so based in common sense!!

[@RockinTheMountain]

"We've pretended that being a woman is a software issue." Absolutely amazing insight!

[@laraking804]

I love this man. The voice of reason in a mad world.

[@DekkarJr]

Unfortunately he is one of few who have a voice and platform. :3 I can't believe this is what the world has coming to... the end of the species due to insanity from manipulation of language, lying to young people about their fertility.... focusing on nonsense rather than real and tangible things... :( It makes me depressed cus I hear these 2 having such a reasonable and sane conversation... and see so many others in media spewing out the opposite delusions.

[@backach1]

is it sane to want to put your willy up another mans bottom it sounds like madness to me lara

[@ohwellwhateverr]

Identity is character not group Douglas Murray is an outspoken atheist.

[@nicknicholas8019]

​@@ohwellwhateverr Identity isn't character, merely an aspect of character.

[@ulrikjensen6841]

There's a line in every sentence and every answer he gives, which you can't hear when he is being trampled upon by helpless wokists.

[@richardamos3173]

Within minutes I’m at ease, knowing Julia is not agenda driven and that Douglas is someone it’s important to listen to.

[@titanicpat1275]

Free from the tyranny of being told "So what you're saying is..."

[@VenturiLife]

She is seeking truth, like Douglas, putting aside personal bias and opinion to drill down to ... what IS.

[@spiritualrearmament3266]

Men and women - equal but not identical.

[@spiritualrearmament3266]

She's wonderful around minute 23 talking about people saying that she can't speak about a topic. "You can't speak 'cause you're not black, you can't speak cause you're not gay ..." and then she says she plays the woman card, and you can just imagine someone turning and saying she's not a woman because something she has said in past doesn't fit what they think the woman's narrative should be.

[@markriley5863]

Spot on!!

[@patriciadorwin4052]

How absolutely delightful to sit and listen to two intelligent people discuss a difficult subject and offer a start toward a solution. Enjoyed every minute of this program. Love seeing and hearing two of my favorites together.

[@dennisbache4332]

One of the very best yet. Putting into words the feelings of so many. Thank you Julia and Douglas.

[@forearthbelow]

So, Julia - call him back in for another interview. I'll watch

[@paulworthington8666]

I cannot remember when I last heard such clarity of reason in an open discussion. These two deserve much more attention and respect.

[@uberbeast113]

Lex Fridman has some awesome guests on his channel and is a wonderfully thoughtful, balanced, inquisitive gentle guy.

[@tialanoutrigas5517]

"Is being black simply the first step to some massive political movement?" Bloody hell he must have been sitting on a crystal ball when he wrote this book. Great interview.

[@omalone1169]

@bartley butsford weren't familiar with this . Have you a link

[@franciscomartins9328]

Fascinating listening to both of you covering so eloquently such complex and timely matters that involve our western democratic society values! I’ve learned a lot!! Congratulations!!

[@edwardcatt2399]

"When the situation had never been better it was suddenly portrayed as if it had never been worse"... _Damn_ that's hitting the nail on the head like no nail was ever hit before...

[@roberthutchins4297]

What a terrific discussion! I would happily have listened to them for another hour.

[@harrytrue1296]

What a thoughtful and entertaining conversation

[@janbrian7307]

I’ve shared on Twitter but this should be shown in schools, universities, corporate organisations (they wouldn’t need Stonewall), Parliament, in fact anywhere where there are likely to be lots of people. He should be an advisor to the government, maybe they could learn a thing or two about what is happening in society today. Well done Julia and Douglas and Talk TV. 👍👏

[@franckiewicz0831]

“When the situation has never been better it was suddenly portrayed as it had never been worse.” Wow

[@jdmking888]

Are you implying now isnt a great time to be alive?

[@franckiewicz0831]

That statement accurately sums up the state of western culture- we’ve never had it so good in virtually all categories and yet we act as if we’ve never had it so bad

[@jdmking888]

@@franckiewicz0831 completly agree mate! the wow at the end threw me off buddy... i blame twitter and the hysterical guardian reading intersectional labour (communist supporter) voters

[@mustang607]

If you are looking for power by any means necessary, you pretend that everything is awful.

[@allisongasparini7602]

I loved the train analogy too.

[@tonya3144]

Two legends.

[@kaylasalazar9775]

Douglas Murray is a treasure. Regarding the trans issue and pertaining to children by giving them life altering medicine-I wonder why nobody brings up the frontal lobe in our brains and how it does NOT develop until our mid to late twenties? This is the area in our brain responsible for decision making!

[@user-zm1ow3fu1h]

Good point!

[@michaelodonoghue9385]

A great podcast and discussion between yourself and Douglas Murray! What a refreshing well of common sense to drink from in the growing desert of woke insanity. Do continue Julia to make these Oasis of sanity which are desperately needed in the crazy place the world finds itself just now.

[@peterc3262]

Loved the interview. We all need more Douglas in our lives.

[@newhorizons4565]

I very much appreciate that ;)

[@peterc3262]

@@newhorizons4565 More Douglas? I'm spoiled like a fat baby.

[@magenta6754]

This is an interesting conversation. You never see open debates like this on TV anymore.

[@stewartanderson6560]

Not allowed to have debate now. Attempting to debate a logical or sensible view is going to be treated as hate crimes.

[@fahimp3]

@@stewartanderson6560 Yes, these are the most important issues of our time... 😂

[@PaulineSansom-rt1xf]

There should be more of them on all media outlets .😊

[@carlyblankevoort3856]

TV/newspapers etc is MSM. There will be no sane debate.

[@alicemilne1444]

This is not a debate, it's just two people agreeing with each other.

[@edwoo631]

The bit at the end around 52 minutes when he says why aren't students at university studying how we can live in underwater cities is legendary. We need young people thinking about more important subjects that will help continue the human race not destroy it.

[@isoldepotgieter9072]

Refreshing enlightening and straight forward talking. Soooo enjoyed this interview. Why dont the world listen and take note?

[@daveevans2696]

Love listening to Douglas, always level headed, and honest and talks a lot of sense.

[@AJC298]

Western society today is like a children’s party with no adults there.

[@Hwaigon]

Aptly and masterly put.

[@RonaldArthurDewhirst]

Middle East society is like a .....?

[@miyojewoltsnasonth2159]

@@RonaldArthurDewhirst You wrote: "Middle East society is like a .....?" What would _you_ end your statement with?

[@RonaldArthurDewhirst]

@@miyojewoltsnasonth2159 I'm still waiting for a response.

[@miyojewoltsnasonth2159]

@@RonaldArthurDewhirst ​ I see that your reply was "1 week ago," so that means at least a week ago and less than a month ago. It's possible that @shut beak responded to you. The problem is that both you and @shut beak did not specify who you are responding to. For reasons I do not know, about half the time I reply to someone, KZbin puts up "@Somebody," as happened in your reply to me and my reply to you that I am currently writing. But the other half of the time, KZbin does not specify which "@Somebody" user I am replying to. If it doesn't automatically come up, I always physically write in the "@Somebody" I am replying to. Sometimes I am replying to multiple people, in which case I physically write in the @Somebody-TheAdditionalPerson in my reply, so that whoever I want a reply from is aware I'm talking to them. In the meantime, while you are waiting for a response, I specifically asked you: "What would _you_ end your statement with?" And, like you, I'm still waiting for a response from _you_ .

[@cathywilson3146]

Love his books - should be on the educational curriculum for secondary students!

[@joannadavies8409]

Absolutely brilliant, insightful and clear thinking here about the current madness around us. If only our politicians would listen and take note, ideally the lawyers too! Such wisdom from Douglas, especially around some of his conclusions about meaning in peoples’ lives and the need for forgiveness and understanding of others - there but for the grace of God and of history - most of which was so much worse than today, if not hellish (nasty brutish and short?!) Thank you so much.

[@johnoakley6362]

Thank you Julia and Douglas for such a sane, calm, wonderful discussion. It gives me so much hope to know that there are such people as you out there.

[@williamwilson8582]

Probably the first time I have seen Julia both sane and calm .Someone must have slipped something to calm her down .

[@BridgeToGantry]

@@williamwilson8582 On one to one interviews she slows right down, listens and doesn't interrupt. The opposite of what she does on air which is interminably annoying. This format makes her much more relatable.

[@williamwilson8582]

@@BridgeToGantry Fair comment . It goes to show that if she were more rational in all interviews she could achieve better results and a bigger audience .

[@mar_m1]

A very good listen here. I wish it would go on for more hours! Thank you Julia and Douglas ❤

[@ytb460]

Fantastic chemistry and interview. This is how it should be done as a respectful conversation. Thank you. A pleasure to watch.

[@veritasincanada8118]

Refreshing indeed to listen to two very sane people. I recently got corrected for calling a woman "she" .... She has just changed her pronoun, now "they" -- but the person didn't hold it against me since the "she" just became a "they" .... Madness!

[@RuskiUK]

For the sake of diversity, we must all think alike.

[@paulcunnane4]

Nice!!

[@KathleenMcKay]

lol well said..

[@gerharddeusser9103]

This is actually more than just a good comment.. It should become a meme.!

[@user-zm1ow3fu1h]

😂😂😂👍👍👍

[@sassyc2882]

Refreshingly intelligent conversation.I love listening to Douglas Murray for his clarity, honesty and mature insight. I grow a bit every time I listen to him. I have to read this book

[@speakwell.840]

I was on the edge of despair - but now, having listened to this discussion, I stand strong in my conviction that sanity will prevail. I'll sleep tonight.

[@myriamphilippeaux]

What an extraordinary conversation, I too feel and wish that this conversation lasted at least 3 more hours. Thank you so very much for reminding us of the foolishness of this society. God speed

[@andrewmartin6445]

Thanks Julia and Douglas for a most interesting discussion.

[@paulread4422]

Brilliant..Love the pin pointing of issues of the madness. Douglas is so good at seeing the bigger picture. And love Julia for saying the common obvious things which seems to offend people..madness..hope that makes sense..

[@glenispostlethwaite8966]

keep the podcasts coming. We all need to think about things more and exercise our natural instincts which works out to be common sense! We need more of it.

[@williamphillips1806]

Absolutely fascinating discussion ! Thank you both so much for this enlightening discussion on some very serious issues facing society

[@abigailslade3824]

I could have watched a 24 hour interview with these two, simply superb.

[@audience2]

The audiobook of his latest book is about 12 hours long. That and his previous book would provide 24 hours.

[@abigailslade3824]

audience2 I am ready SDOE at the moment very eye opening you can have no doubt Douglas Murray has actually been to see and talk with these people he mentions his knowledge is earned and his witty intelligent prose has me swinging from despair to black humour to exasperation if only we had more like him I can’t wait to read his next book.

[@ski8799]

I’m thankful that these sensible adults are having these conversations and reassuring us “majority” that the world has not gone completely mad.

[@annrotman7372]

Thank you Douglas and Julia for speaking truth to madness.

[@manusha1349]

Great podcast! Always amazing to listen the brilliant Douglas Murray ❤ the Christopher Hitchens of our time

[@Bader1940]

I have heard much about how I should listen to Julia and haven't. I came here to hear from Douglas Murray and am incredibly impressed by both of them. Bravo!The BBC is long gone for me; I no longer have a licence. They changed, I didn't. This channel looks to be an excellent alternative. Thank you!

[@juliusseesaw5450]

The antidote to owen jones

[@simonclare100]

the gulf between the two is so massive it cannot be measured, wether by intellect or any other characteristic, Douglas stands out, we need more like him

[@sarahhardcastle2433]

Simon Clare Douglas Murray once said that Owen Jones won’t appear on sky News he’s on.

[@glennseaward3050]

@@sarahhardcastle2433 it's TRUE he cant handle his sensible rhetoric especially on gay opinion

[@domzbu]

Douglas is an intellectual hydrogen bomb Vs Owen the spud gun

[@simongaines7723]

Inasmuch as Jones is a disease agreed.

[@saworth7458]

Wow, loved every second of that conversation, every topic is the same 'private' conversation I have with family and friends!

[@maureenrhysjones4643]

I have never heard so much common sense spoken in such a short space of time. It comforts me greatly.....ordering Douglas's book straight away. Thank you.

[@yoyo-lf3ld]

Love seeing douglas. Since hitchens passed, he has been the biggest voice of reason and logic in our country

[@normanlegend4936]

Passing the cigarette I mean torch

[@yoyo-lf3ld]

@Quincy Breed you are mightily wrong sir

[@yoyo-lf3ld]

@Quincy Breed watch the hitchens vs hitchens debate. You never cited anything neither.

[@mikegeeguitarman8991]

I love these two people so dam much it literally hurts..they are like medicine to my ears and heart.

[@crawford1083]

WALOFS. DM is excellent but the ghastly JH-B is. well, ghastly and grossly overrated.

[@simonmitchell9274]

Douglas Murray is the reason I subscribe to the Spectator, he writes a weekly column that never fails to amaze me with its clarity. He writes with an innate sense of what is right and what is really happening.

[@denisebaxter9236]

Thankyou for this discussion. So refreshing to hear stable open discussion of our wonderful world. Keep these discussion going our world needs more of this.

[@shefgirl2313]

I could listen to Douglas Murray all day. He's so intelligent and engaging.

[@alanparker9491]

Just ordered "the Strange Death of Europe" and "the Madness of Crowds" after watching this!

[@soultalk1547]

Europe isn't dying. The UK is.

[@lizguru3502]

This is the most refreshing discussion I have heard since our dear Roger Scruton passed away who always spoke bravely on so many important issues and gave his thoughts to be heard. Thank you Douglas Murray for your input to such dire circumstances that we are all facing.

[@jacobjorgenson9285]

And today we are seeing it is getting worse

[@stephenscally3979]

It is now against the law to tell the TRUTH ... We are not allowed to say" that guy dressed as woman is a pervert" .... He cannot be a woman ... He has a totally different bone structure and biological make up ... A woman's body is designed to produce babies ... and there is no way that any man knows what it's like when a young girl hits puberty, and has her first period, or what a woman goes through on the change of life ... Because both those things affect different women different ways....

[@WilliamTeller]

Hoping more people find this now that the whole world has lost its mind - July 2020

[@rexjantze296]

I think what we've discovered is another emergent property of the internet and social media, a characteristic of mass psychosis not found in the individual user. I wonder how well a web based global petition for reason (to show the left they are in the minority) would go? They are conquering reasonable people by singling them out for reparation and cancellation, drawn and quartered. In a way, the IDW had started a movement like this but never seemed to materialize a guiding system for organizing against such an emerging gestapo.

[@deputyVH]

This gets more relevant day by day!

[@doctorcrankyflaps1724]

Still hoping...

[@rhodeley1545]

An open mind + common sense + intelligence + decency = the best people we have to run our society

[@fortuner123]

I really like to listen to Julia and Douglas. Two great people. I listen to them whenever I can.

[@iamanomas]

Growing up in the 50s and 60s, I remember my father once saying in reference to the poverty and oppression clearly evident in some of the poorest undeveloped areas in the world at that time, “that but for the fact that one ovum and one sperm at one particular time in one particular place, you could have easily have been born there instead of here”. The ‘here’ he was speaking of is Canada, a country our family emigrated to in 1955 from the Netherlands. We landed at Pier 1 in Halifax. My dad had $5 in his pocket - our entire family fortune. Both our mother and father were huge proponents of hard work, a good education for their children - sons and daughters. I suppose being white was a privilege but we lived a a predominantly white society. So the biggest distinguishing factor was ‘class’. Race was not even an issue back then. Only equality of opportunity….and that too was and still is of importance to me and that too is what is critical for all people no matter race, or sex or religion or culture. If we could all just believe in that, we would be so much better off.

[@KenMoss]

There's nothing better than listening to the intelligent conversation from one of the greatest intellects we have in Douglas Murry. We now live in a world where most of us have a device in our pockets that gives us access to every conceivable item of knowledge, music, culture and truth, the downside is that it gives everything access to us.