'I'D DROP KANE!' 😤🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 Stuart Pearce REACTS To England's Draw With Denmark | The England Debrief

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[@davewood1982]

Not a single drunken idiot across the entire nation turned to his mate at any point during that ninety minutes of hell and muttered the words “what we need is prime Kalvin Phillips back”.............. Jesus Christ, how is this man managing the best group of England players in decades

[@meadowroad9459]

😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@EL.JEFE1231]

American here... I was ready for this match today, and up to the point of the first goal, I thought ok these guys are ready after the fact I was asking myself did they change everyone out on the pitch, what am I missing here... it just got worse. I thought Gregg Berhalter was inept, but I honestly think he's a genius in comparison to Southgate. I really hope something changes, or it's going to be a rough go.

[@craigmitcham2619]

ha ha ha brilliant mate

[@NeilGamble-ij9pu]

🤣

[@ronnyron4681]

It was not drunken or whatever. The problem is how come all of the players became disjointed, uninspired, unspirited since the kick off?? Didn't you see it?? Usually it's down to the manager teamtalk or the preparation and training system is wrong. Just think with common sense, sportsman who was given correct training and preparation will surely translate that on to the field. But if the training itself is wrong then that is what tranlated on to the pitch.

[@millsy1861]

Steve Holland isn't an assistant coach he's a glorified physio......our whole coaching staff are tactically clueless.

[@nickgoatham7981]

With you , don't see any expertise or basic motivation there.

[@Jamesadams210]

It’s another appointment based off the fact that they don’t cause trouble within the FA

[@ps5andstuffhere]

Always wondered why the hell is steve holland there

[@JurgenFlop]

Holland isn’t the problem, without him Southgate would be even worser

[@josephpickard3108]

Why they didn't jump to get Steve Cooper or Lee Carsley in his backroom staff just for the tournament is beyond me. Both successful FA England coaches. He's out on a limb when you see the dugout

[@skinmech4851]

When you have an England manager who’s greatest achievement in club management was being relegated with Middlesbrough what do you expect

[@SD-nq6kg]

Wow...what the F were they thinking

[@TomNoles007]

I get your frustration, but that's harsh mate. Last 2 or 3 tournaments we've done ourselves proud. Yep maybe he should be sacked but I don't know mate, maybe I'm too soft. 😅

[@cookie1970red]

Along with losing a european final 4-0

[@user-qk2rt1cn2s]

He was Boro manager for THREE seasons in the EPL. Two mid table finishes then relegation. But relegation was not his fault as every Boro fan knows and as the chairman came out and admitted. Our finances were screwed, we had to sell our best players, and we ended up with a team not good enough. This is fact. That is why since then we have only been promoted once for one season. Is that his fault too? You guys know nothing.

[@user-yo1ee1ni7p]

Specialist in failure

[@Toon1893]

1st and foremost whys Southgate not screaming from the sidelines to get out, or at Kane to stay forward, absolutely no communication, advice, encouragement or bollockings coming from Southgate or his staff, that is terrible in game management

[@seantbuckley88]

Creates a culture of complacency.

[@johnwilliams5008]

He’s too busy referring to his management consulting book so that he’s ready to trot out excuses that work for the FA.

[@Barney-ii1no]

I have noticed that too he has no passion, like the opposite of Mourinho

[@michaelmather7352]

No passion ,certainly no Klopp

[@Zxcvbueisn444]

He just sits there saying and doing nothing in dug out

[@doml8959]

At this point EVERYONE knows Gareth's gameplan... score first then park the bus. Oppositions should just let England score first then attack them because we've seen how England have ZERO answers when they have their backs against the wall.

[@LT212-24]

Been this way since the croatia game 2018.

[@martinluke9470]

Yep. Snowflakes.

[@LiClan]

Sounds like a practical game plan from South. I suggest you have faith in the experts

[@insanebe1]

lol, that isn't the plan though, Kyle walker said it wasn't from the manager, they just aren't that good.

[@jasondewhurst7054]

every team in this tourney will be licking their lips if they face this england regime.

[@eL--RaL]

Up next : 2026 World cup "It's coming home" 😂

[@AbdiHassan-uz3wg]

We go again 😂

[@sticksman1979]

60 years of hurt!

[@Jows65]

😂😂😂

[@aarnethn]

More like they're going home early 😅

[@Unpopular_Truth]

No doubt you'll still be here in the comments writing your 1 millionth comment about the English media.

[@stevemac1969]

Pearce says it's not Gareth telling them not to attack. Southgate himself says in an interview it's not him telling them. So my question is, for the last three tournaments, who is in charge of this team, please?

[@denisako6493]

Missing link is Kalvin Philips 😂😂😂😂

[@chriscrossley9319]

I can't believe I heard that

[@MARKD-sk4jo]

Wow

[@neilba1]

A ‘prime’ Calvin Philips…..

[@err4071]

Sterling, Rashford and grealish are the players who England are really missing.

[@jaybe2908]

Played 40 mins total in the last tournament, and has been injured or out of form most of the time since.

[@thesmithsnerd]

The problem is not Foden, the problem is not Kane. The problem is compromising several areas of the pitch to accommodate Jude in the 10, and the irony is, Jude isn’t even a natural 10, he’s an 8, yet Gareth insists on playing Trent 8. It’s completely absurd. He has all the pieces at his disposal, and a 2yr old could put this puzzle together. Jude & Rice double pivot Foden 10 Gordon on the left Natural balance restored, heart of the pitch bolstered, Foden now in his optimal position, Kane’s toes ain’t getting stood on, and Gordon can hold the width creating space in central pockets for Foden, or be a runner in behind when Kane drops deep, and Jude & Rice bully the midfield.

[@Mikejames1080]

Sounds good to me. Can't see Southgate doing this though.

[@BoxingMinds]

This is exactly what every single England fan is or should be thinking. How can Southgate not see this? It’s genuinely worrying at such an elite level he cannot even get his first 11 right

[@phillo6827]

Bang on. Everyone but Southgate can see this.

[@SoulFlyShogun]

It's so obvious now that I actually think Gareth will do this agaisnt Slovenia. I pray at least. However, I think damage has already been done with these two lackluster performaces

[@andrewlyons431]

Foden has been moving into central areas of the pitch and barely out on the left in past two games and still been poor anyway 😂 Went on a nice dribble at the end of the first half and went for shot from range off balance instead of playing it in to Kane. I don’t mind moving Bellingham back deeper but off the back of those two performances Foden should be dropped to the bench regardless. Give both Gordon and Palmer some game time against Slovenia!

[@yakedup]

Outrageous that Gordon hasn’t got a minute so far

[@amandalowe669]

Agree the team needs pace and he the fastest player

[@gazof-the-north5708]

Or Cole Palmer

[@cj_thegamergoon1201]

Some how Bowen is getting played above those 2. Southgate hasn’t got a clue

[@goidsufc]

He’s shite never won a thing

[@mattinterweb]

@@goidsufc You have to win something to not be shite?

[@okoyeeric7149]

I remember after the France game at the world cup, Pearce was on the radio talking about how he begged Southgate not to resign.

[@kailashpatel1706]

Really?

[@Mikejames1080]

He's reactionary. Someone has a bad game, "drop him". Doesn't know what he's talking about.

[@JScotland1996]

He’s Southgate’s mate he’ll never slag him off , pointless him being a pundit

[@evansevansevans1]

Yeah - I love Pearce but he offers nothing but platitudes as a pundit. He never actually criticises anyone because they’re all his mate.

[@jaykalirai9111]

True

[@marcothorsen950]

As a Dane 🇩🇰 England have some great players who look lost playing for their country.. Your Manager is totally wrong for Tournament football.

[@limmoblack]

England players are used to having foreign players as 'creatives' in the Prem, so have no idea what to do when picked for national team.

[@atorthefightingeagle9813]

It's been that way since Capello.

[@markhomer5704]

​ You have a really valid point there

[@jasonbutler7054]

Spot on ! If England had a world class manager they would of won the last two tournaments. The fact England have had some success in those tournaments has hidden the managers lack of ability. The problem is the manager not the players and the players now know it.

[@nivioify]

Stop this nonsense drop this drop that. The only guy to be dropped is the coach

[@NigelCraske]

Spot on,months Southgate has had to plan our best team and formations,we look disjointed but tonight was a shocker to go with the Iceland match,we have top players but a clueless manager,I'm gutted but we r still in it playing rubbish,just hope things change but it's got to be time up for Southgate now when the tournament is over,I hope I'm wrong but we need a miracle now to change our fortune's round 🤣🦁🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇬🇫🏆🤬

[@tournaline3448]

Spot on!

[@E.Cantona]

Spot on mate

[@TomNoles007]

​@NigelCraske I think you've put words to a lot of our feelings mate, well said 👍

[@NigelCraske]

@@TomNoles007 thanks for that,I love my football,but sometimes U don't get what U want and after the hangover losing 4,0 to Leeds utd in the playoffs,I was really looking forward to England winning the euros,but after the last couple of matches it's been a painful watch,just got to hope everyone writes off England then the players prove us all wrong and go all the way but that's my heart,my head says different,come on England 🤞🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🦁🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🦁🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🦁🇬🇫🏆

[@MDRashid0509]

Gareth Southgate would be a brilliant manager for Manchester United

[@Andy_Elle]

Make it happen. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@langy1318]

A thousand curses on you!

[@johnbobby1092]

He wouldn't win the pub league with Birmingham 😂

[@lotuseater7247]

probably make Villa's all time team, they're that shite.

[@craigmitcham2619]

ha ha ha ha id love them to get him and then listen to the fans

[@oldschool8330]

Interview after the game, Southgate mentioned not having a direct replacement for kalvjn Philips 🤦🏻‍♂️😂 He’s OBSESSED with 2 holding midfielders.

[@yourrightimwrong3565]

Why’s Pearce complaining he’s the one that’s been defending Gareth from everyone for the past 18 months 🤦‍♂️

[@MrEchoes1962]

😂😂😂😂😂😂so true

[@jamdonut4021]

There was nothing to criticise Southgate for in the past 18 months...now there is. Its time to deliver.

[@yourrightimwrong3565]

@@jamdonut4021 I never said there was anything to criticise Gareth for, I said Pearce had been defending Gareth from everyone for the past 18 months. Theres plenty to criticise Gareth for over the past 6 years.

[@SleutherStrode]

Bellingham was shocking tonight before you start bashing everybody else

[@chatlotterorvig973]

He was held up by 2 danish kings in the midfield 😂 see it, individuals doesn’t win. The Danes was a team, your boys wasn’t

[@32446]

Players look exhausted, negative body language and Southgate is making them all look like fools.

[@4JJA14]

Kane doesn't look half fit. Everyone bashing Tuchel for taking him off during CL semi Final then he revealed he's got a bad back.. Still had by the looks of it

[@MarcoSpeaksNadsat]

The pundit industry needs to be curtailed. All say the same thing and there appears to be about 1000 of them.

[@bigbinji6145]

hee hee ha ha ............spot on , the usual drivel. Been listening to the same crisis this , crisis that , tripe for every tournament since 1986 ......England absolutely awful for the first 2 games ......and then improving.

[@user-fu1cj4fc7o]

I think Southgate watching to much of that movie, Great Escape, He's Hilts (Steve McQueen), He's Escaping The sack all the time, Now He Feels like Danny (Charles Bronson), He's Afraid Through The Tunnel He Might Suffacated (Sacked) 🤣

[@err4071]

Basically everything they have said before the tournament didnt work and hasnt worked, they come up with other suggestions during the tournament which haven't worked and won't work, now they are blaming kane for the player behind him who are responsible for 90% of the game lol. Rio, Lineker, Micah and now Pearce and many more have called out Kane after yesterdays performance. Now its his fault the goal scorers, because he's not very good at the press and he doesn't make enough runs. Basically blaming him for a England side who cant get out of their own half. They suggested Watkins and a few other changes and sothgate actually tried them out and England was even worse. I mean what did they expect when Southgates left all his experience forwards at home and replaced them with in experienced pups, who have never really played for England, the teams fragmented just like chelsea.

[@steves1460]

@@err4071 many were saying that Bellingham has to be at number 10 as our best player, but after yesterday‘s game they’re all now saying Bellingham has to drop deeper and Foden in at 10. Some of us were saying it before yesterday‘s game and Jason Cundy also called it to be fair.

[@ironclad57]

I agree with the OP but,if they are all saying the same thing why isn’t Southgate listening?

[@Torquemada07]

Psycho showing the tactical acumen that made him a top, top manager a few years ago... 😂

[@albertbell7120]

Anthony Gordon sitting watch that shite must be thinking I might as well stayed home … Toon Army

[@georgechurchill3622]

still recovering from a knock I think mate, he will play a part next game.

[@graemecreegan6749]

Wish he had chosen Scotland 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

[@phiIiptx]

@@graemecreegan6749they’re worse

[@graemecreegan6749]

@@phiIiptx exactly. He would have the opportunity to play a vital role in a modest but historic success, rather than watching from the bench as a great opportunity is flushed down the khazi.

[@andycarmichael6671]

Grealish and Maddison have to be chuckling to themselves 😂

[@yippeeki-yay1691]

And White.

[@user-sh8vt8qe2f]

Maddison wouldnt get in the team

[@xpnfnsmlprmun878]

@@user-sh8vt8qe2f he is exactly the type they are missing, he can comfortable play an 8. he can pass, find runners, dictate the play. adam wharton is one another player that can do these i believe but southgate wouldnt play him. mainoo too but i doubt his passing ability and he is more of a no10 playing behind.

[@bobofett3966]

@@yippeeki-yay1691don’t miss white nothing wrong with englands back 4

[@villa_fan8882]

@@yippeeki-yay1691what’s Jim White got to do with it? He is Scottish

[@D1craigRob]

One of the positives was Kane actually being subbed. Dont think Southgate has done that before.

[@jordizee]

Oi..southgate! "Do the country a favour and resign" And take those rainbow and Palestine flags with you!!

[@MooncricketsInc]

He got rid of his Ukraine,blm, and trans flags? Not very inclusive of him...

[@gillie-monger3394]

If they'd started with Eze and Watkins, tonight you'd be talking about what a great game TAA had had! Playing TAA with no runners was like starting a Red Bull F1 car with no tyres.

[@josephrelph5235]

If England played like his club side, Trent would have a field day. The England front line is stagnant, Kane ends up on the halfway line. Southgates game plan is garbage

[@philelson113]

100%, everyone on Trents back but what's he gonna do with no runners, no movement whatsoever. The pace and movement in the box is awful, our striker is nowhere to be seen and keeps getting in the way in midfield. Kane is a great scorer of goals but he's not mobile enough, it needs fluidity up front.

[@phiIiptx]

@@philelson113all trent can do is cross. Can’t dribble, no first touch, not a proper midfield

[@philelson113]

@@phiIiptx That is all very true but still not Trents fault, he didn't start himself in midfield did he?

[@jackbennett8924]

Get Ollie Watkins up top, Gordon on the left, Saka on the right, Foden in 10, Jude n rice behind and Gomez LB. Need a left footed player down the left.

[@3mundi]

Joe Gomez is right footed

[@rodwellchigome7567]

Only a couple of weeks ago England lost Iceland at the supposed "home of football". Not much had changed

[@SuperMagnum83]

What do you mean supposed? Where else is the home of football?

[@seantbuckley88]

I know Kane isn't the quickest, but it's the classic playing with an injury at 90 percent syndrome to my eyes. He's clearly trying to do the bare minimum. His back is not healed. Simple as. Should have been rested last four games.

[@carlmason4153]

you mean 44 Games

[@MunsterIrons]

All the things Pearce mentions are managerial aspects. Southgate picks the wrong system, players, etc. He’s had so much time to prepare these things.

[@tiredoftheentitled9009]

Now you can see why Guardiola is a genius and Southgate a scmuk

[@megamooon1]

Newsflash

[@FelixGallardo1946]

I think we’re past the point of Southgate taking responsibility, the fingers need to be pointed at the FA who have allowed this joke a 4th tournament with this group of players. We saw in 2020 he isn’t capable. All the FA want is a Yes man, exactly what Southgate is.

[@dondamon4669]

The players are rubbish though

[@thumper1747]

Could not agree more, the FA is old school and I’m sure they’re really happy with Southgate and I bet there’s a spreadsheet somewhere showing how well England have been doing over the years!

[@thewengerinn5555]

Summed up perfectly 👏

[@mark.lawrence]

👏👏👏

[@ants80]

Well said felix

[@michaelcox8820]

Harry Kane’s lack of discipline by constantly going rogue has to be punished, the guy thinks he’s untouchable.

[@revellien]

Owen Farrell syndrome

[@SMariaKS]

Fair comment.

[@danh945]

Ridiculous comment. The issue is Southgate creating a confusing situation. He's telling Kane and Foden to do things that don't work. Do they just keep listening to the mistakes of the manager or do they start to play how they know they should play? The decision to play Rice and TAA as deep midfielders leaves too large a gap between midfield and attack. Does Kane just sit up top like a lemon in the first game? The players are not the problem.

[@darrenhammond6384]

@@danh945I think we all know who the problem is but the players don't really help themselves do they?

[@steves1460]

Using the pitch as an excuse, like Denmark were playing on a different one!

[@MrJevman]

If this England team were seriously going to be contenders at this tournament, shouldn’t the team basically pick itself? Shouldn’t the tactics be second nature by now? Why is Pearce going on about “experimenting” in the next game for? England under Southgate are an absolute shambles.

[@gillie-monger3394]

~ "Shouldn’t the team basically pick itself"? - No. ~ "Shouldn’t the tactics be second nature by now"? - Tactics are dictated by the coach. If he can't instil that then there can be no "second nature". ~ "Why is Pearce going on about “experimenting” in the next game for"? - Because he believes England are qualified already, possibly only in 2nd place depending on the next game. But yeah, experimenting during a tournament is idiotic. ~ "England under Southgate are an absolute shambles". - A shambles and more importantly, a waste of talent.

[@jordansmith2461]

Agree. He's been the coach for his many tournaments? 4 & he's still experimenting?

[@johnwilliams5008]

Poor soul. He’s still ‘new’ to the job after eight years.

[@JahRizza-ee8rd]

It’s funny how England fans are always saying “it’s coming home” because of they’re squad talent. Then the game is played, and every time it’s “that was the worst performance I’ve ever seen England play”. How many bad performances can they have by now 🤣😂

[@jordizee]

"Its coming home" is about football not a trophy...dopey

[@josephrelph5235]

How the F is it coming home, they've never won the F ing thing

[@josephrelph5235]

@@jordizee I wouldn't call the way England played football, I don't want that COMING HOME

[@markeast4647]

I'd sack Southgate.

[@albertbell7120]

He should have went 2 tournaments ago

[@eL--RaL]

All the big teams are winning.. Denmark should have done the same instead of giving the small opposition the chance to draw

[@jonnygibs77]

Who knocked Denmark out of the last Euros?

[@LeeTaylor-lx1rk]

​@@jonnygibs77with a own goal and dodgy pen that was missed an scored on rebound 🥴

[@QuentinMajor]

​@@LeeTaylor-lx1rkSo, two goals?

[@nielsd.liltorp2402]

​@QuentinMajor 2 goals handed to them on a silver platter by Denmark and the ref.

[@QuentinMajor]

@@nielsd.liltorp2402 So, two goals.

[@terry9819]

The worst performance under Southgate was a minor game against Italy where we scored early and then sat back, never even attempting to run past their aging center back. Where he then brought on multiple cold players to miss penalties. Close second is a game against Croatia where we took the lead and then sat back and despite them getting cross after cross into our box he never quite figured it out and lost the game.

[@mikeadams7904]

😂

[@dominicj3167]

Awful punditry, banal questions and answers. All the fans know the problem is Southgate here and his style of play. They are just not honest enough to call it out.

[@29memyselfandi]

It’s ALL on Southgate. The England team look clueless. They have the players. He doesn’t know how to use them.

[@johnnyhock]

If Southgate could play 2 keepers, he would !

[@htt232101]

Maybe, we just overhype our players and other countries dont? Germany, Spain, Italy, The Netherlands, France, they dont seem to overhype their squads....we act like because our players play in supposedly the best league in the World, that we have an entitlement to win things....we don't....Albania and Georgia look like theyd give us a run for our money and they barely have a single household name. They fight, have passion, team spirit, and want to be here. Our players and our manager are overhyped and overpaid, and like the authenticity of other smaller nations at the Euros who have proven they want to play football no matter what.

[@dopplereffeckt675]

This is spot on. You could rinse and repeat the same narration for every single English manager since Don Revie and the1970 World Cup. Time and again England can put together 'world class' players, but can't put together a semi-coherent squad. The focus is to much on individual rather than a process that focuses on a strategy (aka philosophy) and executing the plan as a collective. Jude Bellingham for example is exceptional for Real Madrid BECAUSE he plays in a system with outstanding playmakers like Toni Kroos or Luca Modric, who are themselves play a part of a wider system. But what should be troubling the British football fan base (including the other home nations), is the complete lack of knowledge of European football. The Albanians for example play in a number of leagues such as Italy and Germany, thus they are known quantities to other coaching teams. Yet people are surprised time and again of the quality of so called lesser sides. Until more English players and coaches ply their trade in Europe and improve on essential qualifications like language skills, England will be an underwhelming mid tier footballing power below Belgium and Denmark.

[@richarda3514]

​@dopplereffeckt675 well said been saying this for years

[@RuinMassia]

Maybe if we were playing France, Germany or Spain but Rice, Saka, Foden, Bellingham, Kane, Walker etc are man for man better than Serbia or Denmark yet can’t seem to do the very basic

[@gillie-monger3394]

Rubbish. I live in Spain and the hype and expectation is everywhere. Also the abuse they receive in the media is over the top! I think your observation is rom a UK media perspective. I was in Valencia today and watched the Spain v Italy match in the bar. Their fans were calling for blood at half time, even though they were the better team. Most were embarrassed winning by an own goal.

[@loub344]

​@gillie-monger3394 Agree. I lived in Germany from 2012-2019. They expected their national team to win every comp during that time. And they hyped up their players the same.

[@MrSime75]

8 years as England manager, come on this is terrable

[@kailashpatel1706]

He died on the day of the England-Italy final was Paul Mariner...Mariner's movement (though not his finishing!), aerial ability and ability to link up the midfield and attack for Ipswich in the late 1970s and early 1980s was class, I look at Kane his a lump..

[@Bibg867]

Paul Mariner was a good player and a smashing human being but not in the sane class a Harry Kane sadly

[@keithryan3528]

Paul Mariner R.I.P. Can't lace Kane's boots get A grip man but you have made me laugh out loud so thanks for that.

[@alistairsmith5389]

The fact that we’re always one of the favourites before every tournament is laughable! 😂 1 World Cup win nearly 60 years ago that’s it and that was a home tournament! Only 4 semi finals and 1 final (1 of those semi finals and the 1 final in another home tournament in our own stadium) since then is an alarming stat when you think about it.

[@zitse5103]

Play foden as 10 put jude along rice and gordon on LW get rhe balance right

[@ChrisMan83]

Agreed!

[@dstewusa7054]

@zitse5103 Having watched the last 2 games, I agree with this. I’d save Trippier and Kane’s legs each game by bringing on Shaw and Watkins respectively after 65 mins also

[@colinbrown7305]

100% correct. The first two games, England have had nothing on the left hand side of the pitch. No threat whatsoever.

[@cuffy6322]

Southgate is a defender with a defender’s mentality

[@zitse5103]

Bellingham was horrible terrible to be honest

[@dougdeepdown]

He's 20 mate. FFS

[@noone-qg1od]

So what ​@@dougdeepdown

[@phiIiptx]

@@dougdeepdownthat’s most players peak now

[@gaving9041]

If he doesn’t play Foden centrally against Slovenia, I’m going to lose it! He actually started to look creative and comfortable in the middle and then Southgate subs him off 🤡🤦🏻‍♂️

[@cathyb46]

Also think they should play Palmer as with Foden and Walker they have played together at City so understanding would be there.

[@stevenbrophy5203]

Yep players were trying to sort it out themselves but god forbid we started looking like footballers so southgate pulls them off.

[@ChrisMan83]

If he doesn't do it or make changes that conflict again then I'm not watching another England game cos it's embarrassing to watch.

[@cgo225]

Did England have a captain on the pitch, because I never saw one all match.

[@Campo2k10]

Lot of problems not just kane make him the scapegoat it's ridiculous the team are playing bad rubbish tactics no balance

[@cgo225]

@@Campo2k10 yes, I agree "lots of problems" and one of them (among lots) is lack of leadership on the pitch.... Kane is supposed to be Captain..... He is not a scapegoat, he is a captain that only exists at press conferences and TV interviews.

[@Campo2k10]

@@cgo225 you clearly don't know the meaning of the word scapegoat so let me explain it to you. You are making Kane a scapegoat by singling him out mentioning him because he's the captain. There's only so much he can do as the captain. There's other people involved that aren't doing enough but yet you haven't mentioned them. Until things change then England wont play well and they probably wont win a trophy. Blaming one person when there's 11 players on the field and a manager there is scapegoating if you honestly don't know that then don't tell me that you're not using Kane as a scapegoat. I'm sorry for using a word you clearly don't understand.

[@cgo225]

@@Campo2k10 No, you're wrong - the scapegoat is the sacrificial goat that is held accountable and atones (exclusively) for everyone..... My post doesn't hold Kane solely responsible, it simply raises one of the many problems - his complete lack of leadership on the pitch.... I say "simply" but this is clearly too much for you to handle.... Feel free to have the last word if it makes you feel better.

[@Campo2k10]

@@cgo225 like I said you singled him out that's scapegoating it's that simple. You admitted there's many problems but you only mentioned one problem initially again that's scapegoating. It's a team game if the team aren't performing it's not all one person to blame for it whether they're the captain or not but you clearly don't get that.

[@JahRizza-ee8rd]

Kane’s best years could be behind him

[@gazof-the-north5708]

And his trophy "curse" is not a conspiracy theory

[@anthonyschewtschuk190]

Well said

[@vicwiseman2340]

And yet he scores the only goal.

[@SMariaKS]

@@vicwiseman2340After being fed the ball.

[@gazof-the-north5708]

@@vicwiseman2340 He couldnt have missed from there.....

[@colinmiller8361]

Of course the manager tells the players how to play. If he doesn't, then what the hell is he doing?

[@Philip__325]

Tap in Kane. So overrated. Slow, lethargic and always looks exhausted like he can’t even run. Always looses the ball by challenges or bad passes. Anytime he faces a defender he just falls on the ball to win a foul because he can’t beat anyone. Always head down. He’s terrible.

[@christophermaley6822]

Not fit to lace Greaves boots.

[@jdegwu1362]

omg football is not for you

[@luxorora5370]

England don’t have any world class played players….despite the fact they think they do

[@JahRizza-ee8rd]

The premier league just exaggerates how good English players are.

[@osr4152]

Kane, top scorer in the the German league, Bellingham already a superstar at Real best team in the world, Foden and Walker playing key roles at Man city who probably play the best football in Europe under Pep. It's not that England dont have good players BUT there are weak links and they lack the teammates they have at club level in key roles.

[@the0nlytrueprophet942]

Our two best players play abroad - next

[@user-fu1cj4fc7o]

​@@the0nlytrueprophet942 send them all aboard mate 😂

[@josephrelph5235]

The manager is the problem, players playing out of position.

[@marktait2743]

The English players are carried in the top sides by actual top players such as de bruyne n vinicius Jr etc... they benefit from coaching by pep, ancelotti and klopp and no key player in any top team is English...Bellingham most overrated since rooney

[@jmo4952]

Rice was dreadful yet got to play the full 90 and no questions of him being dropped.

[@justincosing5227]

He’s playing out of his best position. Should have Mainoo play the 6 and Rice the 8. Rice had his best season this year playing as an 8 and carrying the ball forward.

[@marc.the.red1987]

​@justincosing5227 drop rice play Bellingham midfield trent natural position . Encourage stones to come out with ball more and stop all this 2 cdm bs .

[@justincosing5227]

@@marc.the.red1987 Bellingham in the midfield??? Do you watch him play for Madrid? His best position is a false 9. Trent shouldn’t be in the midfield and if he does play should be a RB that can invert. Mainoo would be the only CDM. Unfortunately Southgate is clueless and negative.

[@oldschool8330]

@@justincosing5227you don’t need jude in false 9 if harry kane is the defacto striker (no.9) It’s a different formation to Real Madrid. It doesn’t work as Jude isn’t a 10.

[@marc.the.red1987]

@@justincosing5227 it's pretty obvious that rice's weak points are been exposed at this level . He can't turn with ball and run and too vocal with other players trying to tell them not to go forward. I'm all for trying mainoo in that position alone we need to quicker from midfield

[@ballackbrooklyn8476]

No way a team drop back without the coach telling them to,no way a team drop back and the coach don’t tell them to push up,make it makes sense 🤔

[@winbig1]

He specifically said that is not down to him.

[@i.m1981]

Yes it happens alot. Problem is, the manager has to change it and make sure it stops happening. We've won many games under Southgate, by 2 3 or 4 goals, Germany in last euros for example. 1 nil up and still went for the 2nd and got it at the end. Its down to confidence from the players. And it's the manager who needs to breed the confidence. Unfortunately all this criticism doesn't help tge confidence. It's a vicious cycle.

[@WLVSK8]

@@winbig1 which is the problem in a nutshell!!

[@winbig1]

@@i.m1981 They are obviously world class players. Who do not lack confidence. They lack confidence in the system. Like when playing Kane he needs runners high up the pitch with him. If he's not doing that system Kane cannot play

[@Kurgan618]

Typical England all waiting for someone else to do summit

[@-gn7sn]

why would you expect them to go further. never won a knockout game on the continent in 13 tournaments

[@flyoverfredusa]

not often the England fans boo a manager and players, that was very telling today

[@megamooon1]

U not watched the Graham Taylor documentary ?

[@flyoverfredusa]

@@megamooon1 so, not often

[@nicmonberg5974]

Southgate is a poor version of Hodgson. The Palace fans know this all too well and can see the same style etc royball they called it. This England team has so much talent under a proper manager they would achieve so much more. The line up is all wrong 3-4-3 we should play high press. (every player knows this league teams play it)

[@johnnyhock]

Makes the defeat to Iceland at Wembley look like an accurate reflection of where England are !

[@thumper1747]

The guy on the left just calmly nailed it bang on

[@MunsterIrons]

Of course it’s down to Southgate. Pearce hasn’t got the balls to call out Southgate. If the players arnt doing it, in terms of the examples Pearce gives, Southgate should sort it out.

[@rockett7321]

Connor Gallagher is not a positive substitute... piss off gareth Southgate you haven't got a clue

[@simondalzell5635]

Spot on. It's not rockett science. I suppose it might be 7321.

[@Harlin67]

Pickford is a total muppet. 3-4 mins to go, 1-1 which wasn't the end of the world but given the performance was better than nothing, still he insists on taking a free kick from the half way line. If I was an England defender I'd be screaming at this tool to do his job and stay in bloody goal. Look at the top international keeps, calm, collected, then there's Pickford, flapping his arms around like a lunatic, shouting at defenders, trying to be the 'man'. If England get further, guaranteed Pickford is a disaster waiting to happen.

[@martinluke9470]

Pickford is a born flapper and always screaming and in a panic. Oxygen thief.

[@jay-tonicsatherapper6171]

Leaving Maddison behind was criminal, you cant win a big tournament without a playmaker in the starting 11 history tells you that its common sense

[@craigmitcham2619]

i agree maddison can open the defence up, i was never confident with players he left out tbh

[@denzel1989]

​​@@craigmitcham2619wharton and mainoo can do that that wharton is unbelievable reminds me of di rossi from roma

[@hashtag_thisguy]

You can't win a tournament with out a decent defence... And England's defence is average at best..

[@jay-tonicsatherapper6171]

@@hughzapretti-boyden9187 They called up Luke Shaw who is injured and still is but Couldn't call up a fit and ready Maddison let's be real with ourselves that's hypocrisy at its best

[@jay-tonicsatherapper6171]

@@denzel1989 Mainoo is a 8 his not a playmaker there's a difference and Wharton still has not featured much for England, Maddison knows the system

[@albacan]

Very smart to conserve energy at this early stage

[@costa7908]

Should’ve taken Ruben Loftus Cheek to play alongside Rice, he can do everything he’s versatile had a great season at Milan but him and Tomori are often overlooked

[@joelthorpe4170]

One good season doesn't mean you're good enough for the national side.

[@Yaro79]

​@@joelthorpe4170unlike Mainoo,palmer,Gallagher, Guehi right?

[@joelthorpe4170]

@@Yaro79 Loftus Cheek is 28 years old mate. One good season at the age of 28 isn't good enough I'm afraid. Mainoo has had more impact on United than Ruben ever did at Chelsea and he did it in less that 28 games, big difference. Palmer is second top scorer and most goal contributer in the league mate, guehi has been good for a few seasons and Gallagher isn't great lol

[@seantbuckley88]

100 percent

[@megamooon1]

😂😂😂😂 Loftus Cheek !

[@lewismccrimmon]

How the hell is carlton palmer not getting a shout or Anthony Gordon? Watkins has to start , kane dropped but will he drop his captain? No chance , no balls

[@oliverchong2428]

“Carlton” Palmer? 🤣

[@452xi]

It's laughable to say that the players are dropping back after scoring, by their own accord. It's Southgate's tactics, or are they saying Gareth isn't in control of the team. Either way Southgate needs sacking.

[@PjMasks-qu6bb]

Its never coming home 🤣🤣

[@MDRashid0509]

When has it ever been home to ever come home

[@nivioify]

Never my friend. This English media make me wonder

[@eL--RaL]

Don't worry they'll say it's coming home in 2026 WC 😂😂

[@ChrisumChrisumChrisum666]

You are going home.

[@clownworldcartoons]

@@MDRashid0509 It was the slogan of Euro 96, 'football's coming home', meaning the game of football coming home to where it was invented. In the last few years it seems silly people have interpreted it to mean the trophy.

[@jimbochino1777]

Probably good timing for the fa to give Southgate a new bumper contract

[@MickyO567]

Too much emphasis on Bellingham, he cancels out Rice and Foden by filling their spaces ? Arnold - waste of a shirt. Saka is so over-rated. Kane should be brought on last 20/30 mins. Gordon, Foden, Rice, Palmer midfield and Watkins up front would terrify any team. Just my opinion.

[@thumper1747]

I think Southgate is obsessed with not losing and justifies these dismal performances on progression, but think of the fans! They’ve spent how much on travelling and accommodation to watch and support England! Other teams are fearing us less and less now.

[@zitse5103]

Foden looked creative hed play better in cam hell definitely make England dangerous put jude along rice pit palmer or gordon on LW

[@Jamesadams210]

Stuart Pearce absolute legend of a footballer but he’s the guy who put David James upfront for man city. Hence why he is no longer a manager and not a very good pundit either

[@banditbaker1675]

Southgate doesn't know what he is doing and the players don't know what they are supposed to be doing either!

[@motty147]

No mention of using Gordon on the left?

[@ChrisMan83]

Exactly

[@Aaaronlondon]

I HATE TO SAY BUT WE DROPPED THE BALL WITH GREALISH HE WOULD BE PERFECT FOR THAT LEFT RIGHT NOW

[@ChrisMan83]

Southgate clearly made the statement with Grealish to say we aren't attacking down the left this year.

[@Sweetness34-ft5li]

That thicko would probably play Pickford up front like he did with David James.

[@dougdeepdown]

My God how i wish he had gambled on Ross Barkley. Exactly the type of player we need right now. IMHO

[@JurgenFlop]

Not a bad call. Never understood why people were excited about Wharton and mainoo going as Southgate would never be brave enough to throw them in. Sancho was playing like prime Ribéry before the last euros and Southgate was scared to sub him on

[@dougdeepdown]

@@JurgenFlop Prime Ribéry...I see what you did there. ☺️

[@JurgenFlop]

Im not kidding he was absolutely unplayable that year. 17 goals and 17 assists in 32 league games

[@roberthayes9842]

I cant remember ever seeing such a dreadful performance, shocking

[@mattweight402]

How about Iceland last week!

[@stnbch3025]

The PL is dictated by foreigners and the English players are the ones getting carried by the PLAYMAKING INTELLIGENCE OF FOREIGNERS. England itself is far from one of the game intelligent football cultures. Bellingham same at Real, he's not THE playmaker making the team click and tick.

[@liamascorcaigh2601]

Perfect!

[@jsquire5pa]

Yep .. although this England team is a bit better at that ..

[@mikecheung4814]

I like the way we treated England in the 2018 WC. Lowering our expectation did always surprise.

[@tazpiramine2699]

Gomez done an outstanding cover as left back for Liverpool!

[@thetruthsetufree6212]

These pundits are clueless

[@eL--RaL]

Denmark was absolutely robbed of a win i tell ya 😂

[@simondalzell5635]

no

[@mikewhipps3161]

If Luke Shaw doesn't play in the next game, why the hell was he taken?

[@oliverchong2428]

‘Cos Southgate is an absolute mug!

[@adambodhi431]

Apart from a few pundits and most of the fans, all we're constantly been told is how good Southgate is at making a lovely warm friendly dressing room....who cares? Does that contribute to winning any competition at all? We all know the answer to that but we'll no doubt be told its not his fault and be reminded what a nice chap he is. He hasn't won one single competition since he became manager....i guess thats enough for his cronies

[@Tomc12345]

Saka played well ? He didn’t do anything

[@laurelead]

How can you look so punch drunk by the second game against an intermediate national side like Denmark?

[@niklaswikstrom78]

1. Rice is average 2. Kane gets bullied and can't run 3. Trent had 2 touches in total over two games

[@ironclad57]

After the first game was the team unchanged? The definition of madness is doing the same thing over and over but expecting a different outcome

[@PAB86]

Id drop southgate

[@luxorora5370]

England should be grateful for Saka….their best player

[@iandavis8047]

Saka's end product & distribution is just so poor...

[@luxorora5370]

@@iandavis8047 if Saka is poor I’m not sure what you’d call Foden

[@AsifKhan-er9fo]

Managers clueless. Football over the last 4 or 5 years has evolved: cbs pushing into midfield/inverted full backs etc. But this manager is still stuck back in 2019! How the hell is he still playing 2 holding midfielders 🤣🤣 ridiculous

[@markcooper5595]

Southgate was a disciple of Terry venables…..venables team had, balance ,high energy, passion,leadership, ….he’s not learnt anything from his predecessor….theirs no strategy ….if we wanted technical football, we should have pep to pepper it up….if we wanna lump the ball up the pitch , we should have cooper who’s just been appointed at Leicester, at least he’d set them up properly in a formation that works

[@georgechurchill3622]

Kane shouldn't be dropped, but he should be ordered to stay up front. It's absolutely baffling why he's dropping back when he's our lone striker. It's forcing us back and it's depressing to watch. It's worse than when he was taking corners in 2016. God help us :(