Simon Jordan BLASTS The Premier League For 'ABSURD' Decision To Charge Man City With 115 Charges! 😠

Do Man City's charges impact their success? talkSPORT's Jim White, Simon Jordan and Martin Keown discuss!
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[@KevinCleghorn]

20 serious ffp violations would still be 200 points deduction based on Everton/Forest 👍

[@diddyxl]

Everyone is waiting for it. Everton over spent by $19m and we want titles returned.

[@fifty-five6929]

And 0 based on United 👍

[@stretfordender11]

Yeah but if they cheated 115 times then surely they have to be charged for it

[@tfostercrx]

Not gonna happen. Seriously, the premier league have dug themselves a deep grave.

[@spark556]

Ever heard of severity?

[@vince9356]

I've noticed Simon Jordan always sides with these rich owners .

[@TDOTSE1]

Precisely 😂

[@Haakonisak]

As long as they invite him for Champange he is ok with it

[@Blaze26909]

typical tory rat

[@takudzwampofu4504]

He goes the opposite direction of everyone's argument

[@robertgrant008]

Makes you think don’t it

[@cndungu]

If this was Everton, they' be fined with multiple division relegations

[@bleb87]

no. if it were everton theyd be relegated to the MLS

[@DC-zi6se]

@@bleb87 🤣

[@guvnormcfc66]

The premier league can only relegate a team from the premiership,they have no say what the other division do thats down to the FA,please do some research before spouting a load of waffle.

[@Axey202]

@@guvnormcfc66incorrect. Premier league can do what they want 😂

[@gonzaloolguin5980]

For the 1000th time, Everton admitted the wrongdoing - City don't - and what they're accused of was way more simple. Also, the league put themselves on this pickle by choosing to separate the charges unnecessary.

[@suspiciousafternoon]

they could add another 100 charges but they'll still be celebrating a 5th league title in a row. the league will never punish them with points deductions/relegation for these violations different story if this was Everton or Forest

[@jackholman5008]

Innocent till proven guilty Calm down

[@lucasadams2005]

​@jackholman5008 mate the whole world can see cities spending is ridiculous. Don't need to be a doctor to tell which way the wind blows.

[@jackholman5008]

@@lucasadams2005 the market has been inflated by chelsea ,barca,ect its 60 million for a good keeper And the money is legitimate

[@lucasadams2005]

If the moneys legitimate then why have they got 115 charges... 😂

[@jackholman5008]

@@lucasadams2005 115 allegations made by idiots

[@paulpavli7206]

City, one rule for the super rich and another for Everton and Forest, crazy that the PL have left this issue in limbo for so long !

[@blackkid128]

Oil money talks. This isn’t news

[@TheJonn69]

Everton must have some dodgy deals ...when you see more success clubs in the league struggled to build one stand .....the size of there stadium a 750 million ... how

[@sufiyan7461]

There were evidence against those clubs and PL has yet to find 1 evidence against city.

[@iancameron3799]

EPL isn’t going to have proof to the level required to punish City with any substantial consequences. Everton and Forest admitted they were out of compliance

[@rj6657]

Absurd Man City 115 charges go unanswered questions should be raised. Sunlight is the best disinfectant

[@drep9028]

Absurd that the prem didn't just throw out these DRACONIAN and dodgy rules with dodgy agendas. Suddenly investment for competing against traditional powerhouse clubs is not allowed? 🤨 Shady as hell and anyone pushing the enforcement of these rules should question their own agendas

[@fqq4137]

‘questions should be raised’ like what? what questions about a private investigation should be asked? other than ‘are they guilty’ which obviously they can’t answer yet

[@prodigalfraudaddy-es1gl]

No it isnt ..jesus am a doctor and am worried for ur healthcare system if u think so

[@AngelGonzalez-qq9cd]

And they cracked down on Everton faster than light….

[@blackkid128]

@@prodigalfraudaddy-es1glyou’re probably the same doctor giving people AstraZeneca vaccines

[@stacksflat7482]

Lance armstrong FC need relegation immediately

[@darrenwarby32]

A ridiculous non knowledgeable comment .

[@rodiz23]

To the conference or league two

[@QuentinMajor]

True. Man. United in the Championship would be great entertainment.

[@jazchaz1274]

Ye mam says hi 👍👍👍👍

[@anuragdandekar6064]

Man City lawyers deserve more credit than man City players

[@adergas1]

Oh, i see you are a real football fan...

[@grsafran]

did their layers play the game? I am confused I thought Football players win games. Did the players Cheat? is that what you are saying?

[@davidbeeson9408]

@@grsafranThe players that the club couldn’t lawfully afford & shouldn’t have been there, you mean ?

[@colinsweeney1109]

No one said the players cheated...but some of these players wouldn't even be playing for them if rules were not broken. ..Manchester City are a club,players play for the club,everyone has to pay the price...​@grsafran

[@blackkid128]

@@grsafran Manchester City were fined £35,000 after accepting they breached Football Association rules on anti-doping in 2014 the year they won the league 😂

[@TheScouseadam]

The hearing for the 115 charges need to happen as soon as possible. If city have broke them or not.

[@barbarohelm9697]

They definitely have

[@dirtydawg448]

The Man City issue is just another example of how law is breaking down not just in football but society as a whole - one by one individual rights and freedoms are being taken away while the rich just do pretty much whatever they want

[@drep9028]

So why don't you say the fabrication of these rules (post Abramovic successful model) was a step to take away the rights and freedoms from an investor from investing ? 🤨

[@russellward4624]

What's the evidence?

[@lifetreeventures8767]

.....yeah and Assna go trophyless once again 😂

[@WOOOPdoctorFROGhere]

no it isn't. Be honest, you have no education in law do you, so you aren't in any position to comment on the law. If baffles me why joe public just make up unsubstantiated nonsense and the legal system operates. It's ok to just sometimes admit that "I don't know enough about this subject to have an opinion" If an individual is charged of committing an offence, they firstly have the opportunity to admit guilt (or in city's case, liability) and if they contest the allegations then they are taken to trial and have their opportunity to explain why they believe they haven't contravened the law. Trials aren't just listed overnight, it takes months, years to bring these issues to Court. That's the situation we find City in. We are in the pre-trial stage. It will end up in Court and City will have to answer to the charges made against them. It's up to the Claimant party (the Premier league) to provide adequate evidence that City have indeed cooked the books and inflated their sponsorships. If they can't do that, then City will walk away without any punishment. We don't live in Russia, China or the Middle East where they'll just bang you up without trial. Count yourself lucky that we at least have a legal system that'll give you your day in court.

[@grsafran]

How far back in time did you see this breakdown in law. I know if you go back early in British history you will find a lot of incidents of the breakdown of the Law. Stop with this self righteousness indignation, your just a poor loser, get over it

[@colinsweeney1109]

The year is 2029 And Manchester City have won the treble....AND STILL WE WAIT FOR THE OUTCOME OF THE 115 CHARGES...something a little fishy here

[@fifty-five6929]

Not really if you have common sense

[@HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings]

▪︎Every time City win Title ▪︎PL/Establishment accuse City ▪︎Evidences don't follow ▪︎Fishy/Cheats are City or PL?😂

[@keepitsimple8621]

I think you mean cents, or is that dollars, or millions? Of that Man City had plenty. Love themselves a bit of dat dirty money 💴 💩

[@anderswillestofte9376]

toke 2 years to does Everton 1 so if go after that speed it gona take over 200 years befor ther get punish who then apple.

[@sketcheadiscoming]

@@fifty-five6929 Common sense? clearly you lack all common sense with a statement like that. Everyone knows how corrupt Man City is. Get a life.

[@nigelbarnett5671]

Im a luton town fan, and the fa gave us -30 points .. man city should be made to play in the conference and stripped of the title

[@longshanks1978]

Lol for what though ,im a sunderland fan and have no idea what they have supposed to of done ,so how do you know

[@burnaardnufc3173]

The Conference? I think it's called the Bananarama League now mate.

[@TinyBellEnd]

Ask the other fella hes a mackem 🤷🤣​@@burnaardnufc3173

[@aslanali819]

I'm glad you gone down 😂😂😂

[@coolfamily7451]

Good luck coming up 😂😂😂

[@vPzWalkerx]

54x Failure to provide accurate financial information 2009-10 to 2017-18. • 14x Failure to provide accurate details for player and manager payments from 2009-10 to 2017-18. • 5x Failure to comply with Uefa’s rules including Financial Fair Play (FFP) 2013-14 to 2017-18. • 7x Breaching Premier League’s PSR rules 2015-16 to 2017-18. • 35x Failure to co-operate with Premier League investigations December 2018 - Feb 2023

[@ma466]

Ok MC failed to provide accurate information but Does PL have proof that MC deflated their financial info?

[@dazblue5515]

No - the PL CLAIMS City failed to provided accurate financial records... that doesn't mean they did - the onus is on the PL to prove it, not City to prove they didn't! Re the manager payments, again the PL has to prove it... and we're talking a few million here... as an example, Arsenal were guilty of something very similar. As for the PSR breaches... if they can't prove the financials were wrong, then there is no case to answer.

[@ma466]

@@dazblue5515 True. PL made severe allegations against MC and they need to prove what financial wrongdoing MC did.

[@snakeplissken5480]

5.4 charges per season for the same alleged crime

[@fqq4137]

@@snakeplissken5480well to be fair they might have to supply information on a monthly basis or something so each one is a separate allegation

[@JC-ik8gi]

Every league city win while this is not resolved tarnishes the credibility of the premier league

[@adamabdulrahman2930]

Bitter Arsenal fan.

[@FbgAbe]

@@JC-ik8giwipe your tears and go to bed we are here to dominate

[@Shsjier]

​@@FbgAbeironic since you sound like a 14 yr old

[@janysmahoney1271]

Cheaty hav been guilty f 10 yrs, it has nothing t do with Arsenal, Pool or anyone else etc ; ulot r as guilty as the day is long(the world knows it, u plastic fans know it , the courts know it ; whether ur punished or not will never change the fact of u guilt cos guilt CAN b silenced. Innocent ppl DON'T drag out the time in proving their innocence but provide every assistance an papertrail/timeline t prove their Innocent. If some1 publicly tried t discredit u name an achievements, wud u do a CHEATY an let the charges fester or immediately take steps t prove u innocence an clear u name; u may get off scot-free but that would mean u were innocent or guilty but just that not enough evidence was provided t prove unnonce or guilt

[@Tarek_ElMaddah]

They will get away with it.. that’s the world we are living in .

[@grsafran]

It's the world we always been living in, where have you been?

[@millerchassis6119]

Sadly i think you’re right.

[@neilharrison01]

@@millerchassis6119 Time to vote the Tories out.....

[@tomp8260]

@@neilharrison01 They're all the same....

[@tc-ou2zb]

In a world where people take offence at the slightest little thing, I'm astounded that football fans don't voice their anger at these charges. There should be protests at all of Citeh's away games next season. It's bizarre that there's no chants or anything - these charges have been known about for nearly a decade, a decade in which that team has dominated English football. The PL is not a level playing field and Citeh have taken full advantage.

[@grsafran]

I just like to watch the games and the players it is entertaining to me. Why do you watch Football is it too complain about something other than the game? Switch to another sport if you don't actually like to watch Football.

[@slap-u-silly7529]

@@grsafransport is supposed to be fair, its like saying a few runners can use steroids stop watching the Olympics are you brain dead ?

[@blackkid128]

@@grsafranfootball doesn’t just entail what happens on the pitch. Such a simpleton take

[@FreshAlchemy]

@@grsafran Okay kiddo. Go and play with your toys then while the adults deal with matters of larger importance.

[@FreshAlchemy]

@@blackkid128 Completely agree. That person's attitude just enables corruption to flourish.

[@juliushibbert3334]

simon says some of the charges are 'Irrelevant' just because they're duplicates carried forward - they are still technically charges of wrongdoing in their own right.. if you make a mistake then don't fix it next year, that in itself is a mistake and should be punished

[@AAL-mu8ms]

I know your desperate, your desperation is pathetic, you're quite thick, so I'll abstain from breaking it down for you

[@creasicle]

Yeah it's essentially a failure to audit. When Clearlake took over Chelsea they flagged up irregularities from the previous ownership. The fact that City didn't clarify irregularities makes the alleged conspiracy to deliberately break the rules worse.

[@adergas1]

Are you a lawyer...

[@featofclay2295]

@@adergas1 Are you, pal?

[@Maax1200]

@@adergas1 You kille someone once a year for ten years, Are you saying you will only be charged with one murder cuz the other nine was the same offence?

[@johnpaulreed4862]

So Everton get punished for the breaches they had forest get punished fir theirs but city dnt.

[@salex8813]

They are scared of big clubs

[@GWJUK]

How the hell have you not managed to understand why yet, put your Carling down and grow a brain cell as you’ve making yourself look like a clown

[@CarloTurner-vl7rl]

@@salex8813But City aren’t a Big Club, All they have is their Sugar Daddies Billions

[@TheKailoon1]

​@@salex8813city are not a big club ffs 🤣🤣🤣

[@RaulEdu33]

@@TheKailoon1 Correction, very rich Club Owners

[@hadleygodden2323]

If they're found guilty then IMO a fair punishment would be to force the owners to sell the club. If the owners had owned a club abroad and were found guilty of what Man City are now being accussed of and then they tried to buy a premier league club then they would not pass the fit and proper person's test for ownership.

[@grsafran]

the only test for ownership is how much money you have and how much money can everyone else make.

[@adamcraig1468]

Competition in the PL is over. It ended the moment mid clubs like Chelsea and City were allowed to buy success

[@imouto4hire]

Great insight. If clubs like Chelsea were not allowed to "buy" success, then United would have won 10 in a row and we would well and truly be the farmers league.

[@Bladesmobile]

It’s show business not show friends

[@Rex-ru8iu]

Mu can't even buying their success back 😂😂😂

[@ThatGuyNorm]

@@imouto4hire Except United wuld have earned and deserved every one of those titles. Chelsea and 115 FC don't deserve a single thing they've won.

[@TradeIQ_Profits]

Tell united and Newcastle to buy it then

[@kurtmiller7040]

115 don't deserve any trophys

[@keepitsimple8621]

Klopp lobbed a hand grenade into the room on the way out and shut the door behind him 😂 Klopp doesn’t want to implicate Pep in this but does exactly that with his word salad

[@tomben6180]

Good job he just looks like the bitter loser he is. Spent more than City over the past 5 years and nowhere near them.

[@QuentinMajor]

The mark of a sore loser. Unfortunate, considering he *usually* acted quite respectably during his time here.

[@ciaYimengKriete]

@@QuentinMajorwouldn’t lance Armstrong opponents be sore losers while they found out he was cheating? It’s a fair feeling

[@QuentinMajor]

@@ciaYimengKriete Maybe if they were actually cheated out of something. Unfortunately, for Mr. Klopp, he only has himself to blame.

[@roccoparks]

@@QuentinMajori 115 percent disagree

[@dragonballfanscantread2383]

Why does Simon think charging a club for allegedly cheating via inflated sponsorship deals is absurd? Did he get a cease and decease oops I mean cease and desist letter from the Abu Dhabi dictatorship?

[@rj6657]

Man City 115 charges.. everyday should be talked about just like management or players

[@dgoodk5792]

Every single time they step on the pitch it should be brought up until its resolved. Is embarassing its taken this long.

[@russellward4624]

​@@dgoodk5792what's the evidence?

[@adergas1]

Hope you are seeping well...

[@grsafran]

Boring! here in america we like to watch sports and complain about players and coaches. Why is Brittan so concerned about the Business of football and not the actual games and players. Is England such a terrible place that all you have left is to complain about something, I feel sorry for you.

[@Citrusblue1]

It is spoken about everyday by clowns like you rj6657.

[@richardalderson8745]

Suspend them until the matter is resolved then it will be resolved a lot quicker and punishment can be dealt out.

[@FbgAbe]

Oh look at me my team is trash so I need man city out so my team can win something fuccing loser

[@docholiday-lm4vf]

The fact that we are all talking about yet again answers our question. Its completely tarnished

[@KevinCleghorn]

I dont think Simon knows the difference between SERIOUS VIOLATIONS and MINOR 🤡

[@billneave5537]

A violation is a violation still needs to be addressed so maybe it's you who don't understand

[@stevesalkas9128]

Yeah need 40015 to be seriass😅😅😅

[@paulpavli7206]

I think Simon perfectly knows the difference

[@russellward4624]

Alleged violations. What's the evidence?

[@billneave5537]

@@russellward4624 the evidence is there books silly they obviously don't match up or what Ever but I'm sure the prem know what they are talking about, seems to me they have spent over there budget hence the ffp violations but I'm sure we will find out

[@marcosaenzmartinez5534]

This is a joke, this oil club have too much power in this league, FA want them to win forever.......why they didn't show that mercy on Forest or Everton. City manager and players know they have an advantage in the pitch cause they have even the referees on their side......remember that huge penalty against Liverpool that VAR just ignored it......THE POWER OF THIS CLUB IN THE PREMIER LEAGUE IS JUST EMBARRASSING

[@craig3613]

What's an 'oil' club got to do with it?

[@alone2break]

You seems like to know a lot, go and present your evidence to FA..

[@yaut1172]

they arent really a oil club if united and chelsea spend more than them

[@ayrshireman1314]

Given that you ran your club into the ground, your opinion on alleged misdoing is irrelevant.

[@paultaylor9498]

They were fined 2 times by uefa

[@retroshane8844]

And originally kicked out the competition

[@paultaylor9498]

@retroshane8844 not the 1st time The 1st time they had a massive fine and a reduced squad in the champions league. Psg also got fined,why is it no one remembers this

[@louisbeerreviews8964]

@@retroshane8844nope

[@Dunk1970]

@@paultaylor9498 Some of us do. The "and" doesn't belong in your post. Man City were refunded £33.3m of the original £49m fine, so not exactly a massive fine in the end. And let's not forget that being given a fine for 'overspending' is not an appropriate punishment. UEFA changed the punishment to a fine when the now discraced Platini was in charge of the organisation. He helped PSG to avoid being booted out of European competition for the same offence, so could hardly not apply the same punishment to Man City.

[@paultaylor9498]

@@Dunk1970 after they complied with uefa conditions. Man city accepted the punishment uefa had given them so they were guilty not once but twice Are you stupid

[@kazeemolarewaju9395]

It's incredibly shocking how Simon Jordan miraculously changed his tone on City's charges. Could a call have been made to him from the Etihad? I am not sure. The bottom line is, City has questions to answer, and all the charges, ALL THE CHARGES can't be irrelevant or wrong. I found it ridiculous to congratulate any of the City's achievements in the last 10 years until we heard the verdict of their charges. The question is, WHY IS THIS TAKING AGES TO BE CONCLUDED? The fact this is taking this long shows there are breaches by CITY.!

[@ma466]

I doubt Pl have irrefutable proof against MC of charging financial wrongdoing.

[@assegai7055]

Cause he is smart

[@Magpie96-yy9ic]

115 salutes to the oil men.

[@waxingmiracle]

This episode of Bugs Bunny was disappointing.

[@dgoodk5792]

Simone to say that City should not have the same charge duplicated because the same issues show up in different financial years is ridiculous. Ask Everton what they think about that after the were punished twice for the same offence in different years. Furthermore arent there punishments under the english legal system for publishing false or misleading financial statements. Should city's accountants also face criminal charges. Bottom line is all this makes the PL look corrupt.

[@xhowitisx]

Corruption keeps on keepin' on...

[@drummerbhoyshug]

It's CHEATING no matter what you call it, the old Rangers were found guilty of financial doping but nothing was done about it, so no doubt City will get a slap on the wrist and still keep their titles which is wrong ! 🤬

[@h2ocobra811]

Cry more

[@stephenkay3048]

Trying to save his job tosser .Wat a tosser. He lost is watch? People stop phoning in.

[@jdfiend]

Rangers where demoted to the bottom division, how was nothing done

[@ThatGuyNorm]

Whats absurd is that 115 FC have been allowed to continue as per with this cloud hanging over them! This should have been wrapped up more than a year ago and 115 FC should be playing in the Conference League where they belong. FACT is nobody puts any legitemacy on any trophy and title they win because they cheated to get there.

[@ajaycyriljose9419]

Innocent until proven guilty

[@daleviker5884]

FACT is its only ManU and Liverpool fans who are outraged. The rest of the world loves seeing those two clubs forced to compete - which was what FFP was meant to prevent.

[@neilgoldsborough583]

@@daleviker5884 Not true. Few supporters, except those of Manchester City, believe they are rightful 4 x champions.

[@HowardoColeBrown]

😂come take them...since it's not for us ​@@neilgoldsborough583

[@daleviker5884]

@@neilgoldsborough583 Like you know every football fan in the world to make that comment.

[@howlieMCFC]

Jordan’s had a letter from the city board 😂 woke Jim white next the weirdo

[@mansnotbot4160]

I guarantee you don't know what woke means.

[@StephenCarrIsBald]

@@mansnotbot4160it’s when you open your eyes after a sleep

[@hype.7689]

@@mansnotbot4160 none of these guys do 😂 its just a buzz word for conservatives when they don't like something

[@goattm2]

See you in League 2 you right wing turnip.

[@howlieMCFC]

@@mansnotbot4160I guarantee your a weirdo

[@stacksflat7482]

simon showing his true colours now, maybe palace dealings under him need looking at ?

[@bingobango5381]

Talksport are slowly losing all credibility. Yet we still watch. Why? Because there is no alternative. The propaganda they spout is insane.

[@kornage2493]

I don’t think they’ve ever had any credibility, it’s just a continuous circle jerk of outlandish opinions from so called specialists. Talksport is the loose women of the football world.

[@abetekandong1101]

I agree with you. They’re so biased and controversial

[@blackkid128]

AFTV is a better alternative

[@TruRedCRIME]

whole situation is absurd. Nobody ever questions Man utds funding source when they have spent 1 bill, or when arsenal spent 100m on Declan rice or Liverpool on VVD or Allison because these are established clubs with high revenues. How does a relegation club go within 10years ish from being 15th, 16th, 18th to now spending over 1billion? only way is financial doping. Ive lived in Britain, Canada and now USA, never met one single man city fan. Ths FA are a disgrace.

[@garymcrae1699]

I would put my life on it man utd have been dodgy with there finances and tapping up players for years

[@TruRedCRIME]

@@garymcrae1699 sure, reprimand them too

[@GWJUK]

You’ve not got out much then have you numptie. What have the FA got to do with it? Clown town

[@DeathWillBeUponThee]

United finances are public. Also they earn the money. You can't be this dense

[@mikem8211]

​@garymcrae1699 Not at all United are the richest natural club in the world

[@michaeldoig9881]

Anyone got any idea of why Man Utd register their accounts in the Cayman Islands and why uefa fined them last year?

[@blackkid128]

Anyone got any idea why Manchester City were fined £35,000 after accepting they breached Football Association rules on anti-doping in 2014?

[@michaeldoig9881]

@@blackkid128yep, an embarrassing minor, administrative error about the whereabouts of players at any given time, no actual doping involved. Nowhere near consistent tax dodging and failing FFP spending regs.

[@blackkid128]

@@michaeldoig9881 not being available for a drug test is admission of guilt. Especially when you consider it being multiple players. Manchester City were fined 3 times within the first 6 months of Pep Guardiola's appointment for violations of anti-doping regulations. The same manager who employs Dr Ramon Segura who gave him “contaminated” supplements at Barcelona and Luis Garcia del Moral who was banned for life being involved with Lance Armstrong. Manchester City now have 115 charges managed by a complicit Pep “I know nothing” Guardiola.

[@michaeldoig9881]

⁠​⁠​⁠@@blackkid128not a single player proved ‘doped’. A simple admin error of not knowing the exact whereabouts of some players. Rather different from keeping accounts hidden in offshore tax-havens to avoid scrutiny and being fined for the same thing that other clubs are being accused. No - one climbed out of a window to escape being tested unlike some players at a certain other clubs You and the PL are going to have to come up with something a bit better than ‘guilt by association’ to make this work. Uefa failed to prove anything and unless the PL have smoking gun evidence then prepare for disappointment.

[@nichobee]

​@@michaeldoig9881 ah yes, a simple admin error. Are these charges of fraud just simple bookkeeping errors? Always a reason with you lot...

[@allydougall6486]

It does matter that there is 115 as its a continuous breaking of the rules!!!! Other clubs have no charges as they follow the rules year in year out

[@jeromewatson2146]

Who gives a fk what this guy believes

[@ChrisPhillipsDrumLessons]

Makes no sense if they cheated 112 time then they’ll be 112 charges 😂

[@MiguelonZE]

The best analogy I can think of is getting x3 speeding tickets on the same road. The court would compile it to one speeding offence rather than charge you 3 times. Doesn't mean you're innocent but does mean you're not guilty of 3 crimes

[@stevesalkas9128]

115

[@ryanflood635]

@@MiguelonZEyeh it’s effectively the same mis conduct but multiple times, or more accurately over multiple years. and when you break it down to what charges actually have potential serious penalties attached then there is about 6 or 7 charges…possibly even less.

[@michaeldoig9881]

@@MiguelonZEOr allegedly stealing a box of chocolates and being charged separately for each individual sweet

[@neilgoldsborough583]

@@MiguelonZE If the speeding offence occured at 12 month intervals, as Manchester City's charges do, you would be charged 3 times

[@MrPhantom1961]

If Man City's financial gymnastics means that they could afford a motorbike and the other clubs could only afford a push bike, because they stuck to FFP, who gets to the bottom of the road quicker.

[@ma466]

What push bike your Arsenal bought spending $700 millions last 4 years? It meant you bought bad push bike.

[@BriCairns]

Depends if lance Armstrongs on said pushbike 😂

[@docholiday-lm4vf]

@ma liverpool and kloop there biggest rival and they had a push bike pal

[@russellward4624]

​@@docholiday-lm4vfthey spent 1.1b

[@MrPhantom1961]

@@ma466 Your comment makes no sense. You on drugs?

[@mikestravelshow]

The whole scenario is an absolute disgrace 😤

[@joekavanagh7171]

Does anybody seriously think that Manchester City, who can't even fill their own ground and whose merchandise sales are dwarfed by those of United or Liverpool, actually generate more money than they spend? Manchester City were rubbish before the Mansour takeover, yet suddenly they have the finances to hire the best manager and sign the best players. And they still claim that Mansour made no difference, and that they would have been just as successful without him? Give me a break!

[@vhash4916]

115 fc

[@jazchaz1274]

Delhi. ite... 👍👍👍

[@manofthenorth6372]

Whats crazy is Everton and Forrest got punished in real time and Everton got some of their points back. Meanwhile Man C got 115 pending charges and currently celebrating a 4th straight lwague title. Fam, wtf is this?

[@burnaardnufc3173]

That's because Everton and Forest didn't appeal.

[@TheKailoon1]

​@@burnaardnufc3173Everton actually helped with the enquiry and got punished. City's refusal should have more punishment

[@joolsson1]

BBC 8 May 2024 Updated 15 May 2024: What are the 115 charges against Man City? 1• 54x Failure to provide accurate financial information 2009-10 to 2017-18. 2• 14x Failure to provide accurate details for player and manager payments from 2009-10 to 2017-18. 3• 5x Failure to comply with Uefa's rules including Financial Fair Play (FFP) 2013-14 to 2017-18. 4• 7x Breaching Premier League's PSR rules 2015-16 to 2017-18. 5• 35x Failure to co-operate with Premier League investigations December 2018 - Feb 2023. 103 of the charges 1, 2, and 5 above are technical phony charges brought by PL because the big charges 3 and 4 are wrong or hard to prove.

[@StephenCarrIsBald]

How sad of a human being are you 😂😂😂😂

[@ajaycyriljose9419]

Have any of them being proven ?

[@docholiday-lm4vf]

@aj if you need a court to tell you that they are innocent no on evan help you

[@colinsweeney1109]

Yep charges probably won't be proven because a briefcase filled with money can make people very forgetful

[@dompitter3348]

Simon made a good point there, in terms of the accumulation of the charges over the years, as opposed to them being 115 'independent' charges.

[@tomansell3531]

Cheats

[@CTRLALTNUKE]

Whatever helps you sleep at night mate 😂

[@blackkid128]

@@CTRLALTNUKEit’s a fact

[@samkkx]

​@@blackkid128 how is it facts when they aren't found guilty?

[@Isadin]

Unfortunately it’s the world that we are living in, they will get away with it

[@Isadin]

@@blackkid128why is it taking long for the cheats to not be proven guilty yet it’s absurd

[@neilharrison01]

Why don't the PL sort this 115 charges out now? Seems very unfair on the clubs that have been punished.

[@mazdakmina9493]

You can also blame City for that! Their entire strategy has been "delay, delay, delay!" They've obstructed so many parts of the investigation that it's impossible to go to court to settle it right now as there simply aren't clear answers to many of the questions that the court would need to rule on. Long story short: even *that* is City's fault! And yes, City are indeed doing in partly in the hope that we fans will blame the PL for the problem, *not* City itself! Don't fall for it! Keep calling out City for its cheating!

[@samkkx]

​@@mazdakmina9493 why are you making stuff up? The PL are the ones that are delaying it to gather evidences.

[@lewisbrazier3064]

Just the latest speech from Simon Jordan, the prime minister of football

[@Robmwe]

The league would only be "complicit in a corrupt league" IF THEY DON'T CHARGE/PUNISH THEM... if a runner in a race is found to of cheated, people don't look at the racing body and say "you're guilty too" unless they allow them to continue running once the proof is there that theyve cheated.

[@russellward4624]

When did they provide evidence of cheating?

[@juliomanax6316]

First side with 115 charges

[@IOSARBX]

talkSPORT, Subscribed because your videos are so much fun!

[@DimentionalBeing]

Either drop the charges or prosecute because the entire thing now is just getting ridiculous.

[@Sur-Ron]

Nothing will stick, we all know... Money talks...

[@sid75carroll53]

115 115 115 115

[@britpackdog4545]

Baby

[@Kisyfurr]

That's how many goals utd are about to concede at wembley

[@ajaycyriljose9419]

Tears yes

[@stevesalkas9128]

Left out fc 115 fc 😅

[@Kisyfurr]

@stevesalkas9128 wow that's really creative steven. Tell all the down syndrome people on the bus today if you have time between window licks.

[@chillinlee]

What's absurd is that Man City has been getting away with it. EPL has been a joke the last number of years.

[@dkelli6020]

They should’ve been suspended. 115 charges?? Suspended pending the outcome of the investigation. This would’ve been sorted within 6 months.

[@DRIVER-SEBVET]

Fact is there's still 115 charges for City to be answered to and that puts question marks against some of their titles.... Nottingham forest, Everton and others were charged and deducted points instantaneously while the FA just can't get it to charge City....

[@daleviker5884]

Everton pleaded guilty. Man City have pleaded not guilty. Even the most braindead of Liverpool fans should be able to find someone in their family who can explain the different processes involved between guilty and not guilty pleas.

[@andyhello23]

English premier league has turned into a loony bin English media laugh at other leagues, while there own is turning into scottish or german league with 1 team winning I just find all this hilarious, and i do not watch football anymore. I seriously doubt klopp has no idea, as teams and professionals in business world in football must speak behind the scenes about these things. Interesting that he said this stuff though, and will be interesting to see where this goes eventually. I do not care, i gave up watching arsenal in 2002, i just find it all hilarious seeing the supposed top league in the world who forever point fingers at others go through the same as all other leagues. Klopp is tired of football and i do not blame him, he got his trophies at liverpool, and now is leaving. Hilarious though that epl has turned into this one team league, and it makes you wonder what klopp knew, as there is no way that these people at big clubs do not speak about these issues. There must be people advising liverpool on these issues, and klopp must have some idea. German league in comparison is run in correct way. You would never see bayern munich do this sort of thing. English top league is hilarious today, as it points fingers at other leagues, and is turning into a 1 team league.

[@daleviker5884]

Chelsea and Liverpool have won the Champs League in the last five years but couldn't qualify for this year's tournament. ManU, the richest club in the world, finished 8th this year. Tell me another league which has that level of competition.

[@burnaardnufc3173]

German league is a joke. Bayern's rivals are happy to sell them their most valuable assets.

[@GamingExplorerMike]

Imagine 115 charges yet not found guilty of 1...... biggest cheats in league . They will give someone a payday and under the carpet it will go.

[@steveb3060]

Financial Fair Play didn't exist as a concept until Manchester City got a rich owner.

[@stevencurran7656]

They have been charged 115 times ,so is the sentence four trophies in a row and another on Sunday it is not right

[@grsafran]

Poor loser, get a life.

[@thomasdalton3703]

Oil money football is tainted and has been ruined only city fans think there innocent

[@Cobbi-19]

Why is it surprising that Klopp was careful with his words? In my opinion, it was smart for him to be mindful of what he said.

[@user-qv2pi7hk5c]

They should have been dealt with years ago!

[@keepitsimple8621]

Man City came like a bolt out of the blue from 2011 onwards and claim their success is simply down to smart decisions and hard work. I beg to differ. Even Leicester City didn’t sustain that success after winning a title and quickly fell off the radar. The rise in success coincides with the time period these charges exist from.

[@tomben6180]

Erm, that’s because FFPR didn’t come into effect until 2012 you nugget. The owners could spend whatever they wished. Leicester won the league when FFPR had 4 financial years…and their owner wasn’t/isn’t as rich as City’s.

[@imouto4hire]

How is it not due to smart decisions and hard work? Man City took the time to build an incredibly solid infrastructure, instilled an effective recruitment strategy, and implemented a set of standards that everyone, from backroom staff to players, must meet. They did not just splurge their money on galactico signings like PSG tried to do. They invested their money smartly and worked incredibly hard to achieve their success.

[@keepitsimple8621]

And you believe that? 😅😂

[@jordandavis3867]

Hard work?Gtfoh 😂😂😂

[@watermarginramsgate180]

@@imouto4hire hard work in covering up the cheating

[@TheMrClutchy]

Simon bringing up time barring constantly and not mentioning that was only a tiny % of the evidence uefa presented.

[@Cyrus-rodn45]

Don't forget cas said the evidence could not be used against them, because it was obtained illegally. U can't use illegal obtained evidence against someone. This case is not going anywhere, because its like 15 charges but the rest of the charges are related to the original 15

[@mannisehmi4609]

​@@Cyrus-rodn45 Wrong. CAS case was thrown out due to a ridiculous time-barring rule

[@bluemoon1716]

​@@mannisehmi4609the timed barred was pertaining to evidence that from a hacker known to tamper with evidence and showed signs of being edited. None of it was ever adjudicated

[@ciaYimengKriete]

@@Cyrus-rodn45not at all the care, it was a statue of limitations. They were charged and found guilty, only on appeal due to time constraints were they let off. This is will not end well for city this time…

[@Samivermusic]

​@@Cyrus-rodn45to be fair if city have complied with the ruling in the UK they will have provided the information so it would not be illegally obtained. No idea if city are guilty or not but I assume city will have provided the documents to the PL.

[@t.k.1319]

There should be a retroactive point deduction for every year they did this, and the PL table results of those years should be updated.

[@jcgaming908]

Im just waiting for them to be stripped of their titles

[@britpackdog4545]

Enjoy the wait you whopper

[@jcgaming908]

@@britpackdog4545 I will laugh when it happens and you are gonna cry

[@Pedro2706]

better be ready to wait for a very long time then

[@NEO786]

@@jcgaming908seems your crying in agony… you’ll be waiting a long time trust me

[@britpackdog4545]

@jcgaming908 ok champ, in the mean time on we go for 5 in a row. Cope harder

[@jalberto428]

Seems to be guilty until proven innocent

[@Sajdar85]

115 charges, not 1 or 5 Charged by Uefa and kicked out of the CL but "won" the appeal because of time limit farce So yes... blatantly guilty

[@ThatGuyNorm]

They've already been proven guilty

[@Pranjalchoudhary100]

It's innocent until proven guilty you twat.

[@nicholasbaldwin4897]

​@@ThatGuyNormwhere?

[@Wulfryk]

clearly not though? if it was that way around they wouldve been charged with penalties already. it's clearly still innocent until proven guilty as it should be.

[@samroberts6697]

When the charges get cleared what’s the excuse for Arsenal and Liverpool falling short? They absolutely NEED the 115 charges 😂😂😂😂

[@sfullernj]

They won't get cleared if there is any legitimacy to it

[@samroberts6697]

@@sfullernj well that’s the whole point isn’t it. Us average joes don’t know if there is any legitimacy as their only CHARGES…….. I’m waiting for the special special footy fans that compare the Everton situation to City’s…….

[@sfullernj]

@@samroberts6697 yeah we'll get on with it then. Don't keep dragging it on

[@louislim2004]

You just need to pay off the administrators of epl to get off the hook

[@kristiante638]

Premier League will not stab itself by charging the strongest team in the league and on the world.

[@anthonyedwards6409]

Here’s a thought, if Liverpool had agreed the same size sponsorship deals would we be batting an eyelid? No…fact is this is about City being able to compete and the rules did not allow them to do it

[@alastairwinner]

Its in City's interests to draw this out as long as possible and the implications for the EPL should they are found guilty is massive. Bottom line is it serves both key parties to kick the can down the road. In the mean time City will keep winning trophies and the 115 charges will continue to be a black cloud over them and the EPL.

[@Axey202]

I just want to watch football and not have to deal with all this off the pitch nonsense.

[@4ndyhall1]

They have bought the league multiple times. They spent billions creating a club that would entice the biggest manager around. Then they spent less to build the squad because the manager was the enticement not the wages. No one can deny that. Whether they spent money legally or not will be decided. Whether they deserve the ‘respect’ afforded to other clubs who have won the same trophies through legitimate means is not up for debate. Manchester City will never be mentioned in the same breath as legacy clubs like Liverpool, Manchester United and Arsenal. Money can buy success but not respect. They are the rich kid whose parents bought them a trophy.

[@michellemaggs75]

That's a pathetic emotional monologue.

[@GAMING-CELT]

Man U bought the league for years also

[@ajaycyriljose9419]

Delicious tears sweetheart. Now get back in the kitchen will ya ? 😂😂😂

[@4ndyhall1]

@@michellemaggs75 what a rich well thought out argument.

[@drubry1854]

It's amazing how many fans think its 115 separate and individual charges 🙄

[@adammohamed..]

I doubt many people can name three of the charges anyway the evidence hasn’t been made public. It’s a double edge sword, If City we’re completely innocent, they would go bang there’s our accounts take a look. a massive issue UEFA was non-cooperation and that doesn’t look good.

[@KevinCleghorn]

It is you absolute 🤡😂😂😂

[@KevinCleghorn]

What do you think 115 financial fair play violations means ffs 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@KevinCleghorn]

Obviously never seen the list of individual charges have you 👀

[@drubry1854]

@KevinCleghorn there isn't 1, as like Simon said it's only a handful but the FA multiplied them to make it seem drastic, I think they regret that now!

[@paulcavanagh1294]

Totally expected from Jordan, he must want a job at man city!

[@nigelduckworth4419]

The emphasis over the 115 is driven solely by the haters on social media. We have a presumption of innocence until proved guilty in the country-England, as Jim says. No inference as to guilt can be drawn at this stage. The sponsorship matters were decided by CAS already. Simon is spot on. Any good lawyer, as I was, knows full well that you choose the best charges and proceed only on those. In that way you have a manageable trial. 115 is not, which is why it is taking so long.

[@daleviker5884]

Quite correct, but don't mistake this audience for one with a double digit IQ. About 90% don't even know why it takes longer to sort out one matter where the club pleads guilty than it does to sort out 115 matters where another club pleads not guilty.

[@ChunkedIt]

I wish Simon would lose the “City delaying tactic” narrative. It took the PL FOUR YEARS to investigate and bring the charges. Yet he thinks City should defend themselves in minutes. You don’t lay down the most serious of charges as the PL have done and then expect a quick resolution. It just isn’t happening. Also, it’s not for City to prove innocence, the PL have to prove guilt and if they have the smoking gun that gives them a slam dunk, why did it take them FOUR YEARS to bring the charges?

[@triplenz]

PL didn't delay the charges. PL got the permission to publish the charges after City delayed their responsibility to share documentation. The delay was from City by questioning lawyers & barristers blah blah and nothing to do with the documents requested by PL. City did use under handed tactics to delay the hearing & charges. Do your homework

[@adammohamed..]

The question I have is why is everything lingering?

[@hulaballoo9802]

City fan?

[@SuperStealthmachine]

yes ofc it takes time when u are accusing a country for fraud

[@francisklome6466]

Bingoooo! Let's sack Pep outta town! We don't f*ck with this arab folks! FYI the soccer they play is amazing!...f*ck yall salty *ss!😂😂😂

[@GaryMills-ku3rv]

When were City found guilty Simon ?

[@adammohamed..]

By UEFA , but the court for arbitration of sport reversed, and lowered the fine as some of the charges were time barred. But CAS still said City’s non-cooperation was unacceptable.

[@y2k42y2k42]

​@adammohamed.. wrong they were ONLY charged for non co-operation by CAS which resulted in a fine.

[@KevinCleghorn]

Will be in June 2025 when the court date for 115 ffp violations is set for and amazingly that’s the same month and year Pep said he will leave 😂😂😂

[@GaryMills-ku3rv]

@@adammohamed.. CAS found UEFA to be wrong. The fine was for not cooperating with UEFA who were leaking stuff to the press. Simon said the pl have found City guilty, first I've heard we have been charged yes guilty no.

[@shauncorless8965]

They won't do nothing ,,it'll all be settled in court in 2030,😮Jordans very knowledgeable isn't he 😊

[@neilshayler3119]

Sorry can't agree with Simon. Forest, Everton all been treated differently and nipped in the bud. City should be treated as others have but you can only see a transfer embargo being given out

[@andrewnicholls9460]

You can take points off Nottingham Forest and Everton this season but not Man City? Different rules to suit the outcome surely!

[@ERICSHUN12345]

Posh boy defending the Arab blood money champions

[@Ladinhio]

Someone’s read the title and not watched the video I see

[@ERICSHUN12345]

@@Ladinhio Get Simons sausage out your mouth lad

[@ERICSHUN12345]

@@Ladinhio Someone's sticking up for his boyfriend Simon

[@SpuddersSpud-ps6dd]

PL's Lance Armstrong era. Abu Dhabi are killing the game.

[@wn9521]

Thank you Simon. This 115 is just to meme City to death and deflect from the failures of the rest of the league. But we'll be the bad guys and clean up the trophies while we're at it. 115 that.

[@sfullernj]

Yes your cheaty club is just fine

[@makafirigabriel7153]

This 115 charges are surely not making city win the league come on guys man up city players and the coach are good just accept it stop being childish

[@willtallis5275]

That’s the point you clowm it’s how they put themselfs in the position to attract players and managers like pep they had to cheat to get to that point

[@ScootMcNoot]

Youre the bitter clown @@willtallis5275😂

[@Dmog97]

@@willtallis5275don’t bother trying to argue with them, most city fans are like 12 years old and have no idea what goes on in the real world

[@Rainstorm4000]

Man City deserve 115 charges but if they don't get points deducted next season then The Premier League is FINISHED

[@AGE_97]

Deserve? Why? Because your club can't hack it?💀

[@justforfun2347]

thats the problem though, this is from years ago, not sure a future points deduction is suitable, a fine probably isnt suitable either, and i cant see them stripping trophies, as that would open a whole can of worms having to reclassify results, prize money, revenues etc. so if they were to be found guilty, im actually not sure what would happen, they wont be kicked out of the league either, the PL would lose millions in revenue from the amount of global audience that watches city.

[@Rainstorm4000]

@@AGE_97 Because they CHEAT to win Trophies

[@Dunkatere]

@@Rainstorm4000 cry more mate

[@adammohamed..]

@@justforfun2347 it happened in France and Italy you can kick teams out and they will be back a year later anyway.

[@davidmurphy7332]

It's been absurd to charge City and then piss about handing out consequences, all while other clubs have been dangled over the precipice of relegation with point deductions for more recent seasons. If City are guilty of even a majority of these charges, then banishment from the football league must beckon, or else this is a farce and the competition is brought into disrepute - even more so if City prove innocence

[@manchesteraholic5859]

EPL clubs have been charged and docked points, City need relegation to keep it fair.

[@bg7393]

The 115 charge thing is boring. The real point is they’ve spent the same money as other top clubs except they’ve done it correctly. The charges are because the FA and PL tried to stop smaller clubs from reaching the ‘top 6’ level of spend. The rules are idiotic and were never going to work. They should be questioning Man United and Chelsea as to how and why they spent the same money so poorly. And no, I’m not a City fan

[@StevenCullen-sx1ui]

Absolutely bang on brilliantly said

[@sandboxplayerz667]

That's not true. There are other ways to spend. I'm sure you read how Roman paid people through other channels.

[@triplenz]

@Dave-yq4su same as other clubs and done it correctly he said 😆😆

[@adammohamed..]

Well, how can smaller clubs reach the top six anyway ? You need dodgy people unlimited money what happens if everyone gets unlimited oil money? Lots of people spending hundreds of millions even billions with no return as only 1 team wins the title. So what happens when the money runs out ? you’ll be left with these clubs in financial ruin that I’ve had 125 years of history they are our clubs they a are not toys for unsavory people to clean their image. So let’s bring in FFP limit what you can spend and have these clubs around for another 125 years. And as soon as the thick twat football fan, understand this the better.

[@tomben6180]

@Dave-yq4su3 other clubs have actually spent more - United, Chelsea and Arsenal

[@Gas_615]

Don't congratulate them they ruined football