Chelsea NOT a World Class Club! 😱🔵 Simon & Souness | Chelsea Special | Episode Fourteen

[@QuicknStraight]

Souness: "To be a world class club, you have to win big trophies." Two minutes later: "Liverpool are a world class club." ONE PL in the last THIRTY YEARS. ONE CL since 2005.

[@QuicknStraight]

@@tevildo45 Practice your reading skills: I said one SINCE 2005. That one is 2019. And trying to equate old European Cups won 40-50 years ago with today is laughable.

[@JamesG89]

​@@QuicknStraightyou don't expect a Liverpool ex player/manager/fan to talk sense do you?

[@JamesG89]

@darthpepe2994 come on man, you don't think I'd generalise all Liverpool fans to talk nonsense do you? Anyway that title is for arsenal fans, and as a Chelsea fan we have Rory Jennings

[@JamesG89]

@darthpepe2994 lighten up, it's only a laugh. Laurence McKenna is a nerd who wants to be a lad, a bit like Max Rushden- the worst man in the football world.

[@gdcfccfc]

One only premiership ever for Liverpool and Klopp. Thats one in 9 years for Klopp. Liverpool equal in Prems with Blackburn and Leicester​@@tevildo45

[@Matt231985uk]

Chelsea fan of 39 years here. We WERE a World Class club between 2004-2021, but we've fallen away from that so fast!! We are firmly just a mid table team on the pitch, and we are rapidly in decline off the pitch. You can't stay at the top forever. Look at clubs like AC Milan. Even Barcelona are falling away from the standards that they set over the last 2 decades.

[@bluecarefreeforever]

Same as you I started at SB from ‘63. I agree with you. However whilst I don’t like the new regime, I do believe they will get a tune out of the team in the next 2 or 3 seasons and Boehly Eghbali et al will create a new stadium for Chelsea whether at SB or a new place in 5 or 6 years time. I don’t dislike Poch but he will be with us for another season and then hopefully the next manager will be a world class coach. We cannot compare with top teams mentioned until will get the infrastructure right from new stadium for 60k fans to world class team on the pitch and top coach and management that start working far better than currently. Carefree 🔵🟦

[@Iamwhatyousayiam]

It's not that deep man. We're going through a structural change at the club. Also let's not forget these players are incredibly young. Tho some like, Palmer and Gusto are already accelerating.. We'll have others hitting those bars soon .. Imo 2 players would have changed our league position for sure..Nkunku and Lavia.. Let's see how the team is when they come back

[@mickodillon1480]

And petrovic imo. But they will be sold I bet for double what they bought them for.@@Iamwhatyousayiam

[@bluecarefreeforever]

@@IamwhatyousayiamNext season mate. We have not hardly used 4 first teamers yet. James, Nkunku Lavia and Fofana. On top of this we have Key excellent academy players coming back from on loan Santos Webster Vale Hall Gabriel Maatsen (some will be sold) but we also have Washington Burstow Anjorin JJ Morgan and Dujuan Richards. We have so many potential players is mind blowing and several of these will fly in one or two seasons.

[@RL-]

​@@Iamwhatyousayiamincredibly young? Our average age this season is 23.3. In 2004/05 when we won the Premier League it was 23.6.

[@SirPablo2Pablo]

He mentioned Pogba. 😂😂😂. 24:25

[@seanhorgan5380]

No way 😂😂😂

[@Bicorn711]

He definitely reads the Pogba comments 😂

[@JayloT93]

Carlo gave us stability when the FFP case was looming over us. Played some exciting attacking football. His home record was questionable. But for me, he'll always go down as a great for beating Loverpool at Anfield for the first time in 20 years. 💙

[@Jwelland25]

So Souness starts the episode asking a question and doesn’t like Simon finish the answer.

[@samuelforrester9850]

OMG it's so annoying he doesn't let him finish his points at all.

[@NoxiousRob]

So Simon gets a taste of his own medicine. He's forever talking over Spencer Oliver.

[@tonypaul3205]

Love the 'I think Chelsea won a couple of champions leagues, and didn't they win the premiership once or twice?". And THESE are experts?.😂😂.

[@SennaStar]

Clearly you are not an expert either, it's called the Premier League not the Premiership..

[@blackwaterproduction289]

@@SennaStar It's actually called both 😂

[@danielwarren3138]

@@SennaStar you sound like fun

[@SennaStar]

@@blackwaterproduction289 Sad laughing at your own comment. I correct you, it's called The Premier League..

[@blackwaterproduction289]

@@SennaStar Why is it sad! Cheer up mate, I have heard many people call it both 😁

[@canahmet8214]

Tottenham used the council to evict commercial tenants off the land they wanted to build their stadium on. They did not own all of the land prior. I was one of them.

[@santifan89]

Souness "goes back" a lot.

[@johnnyconnelly7278]

Palmer-best stats in Europe in his age bracket and he can't make a shirt England squad because it's' too Early' that why England have won FA. They are never able to see talent and use it. Palmer should be there.

[@PaulManchip]

Over who? Lol

[@skylarutd]

10:42 simon stutering to say Carlo is a world class manager is embarrsing. He is in the same league as SAF and PEP

[@leao1012]

and Klopp

[@QuentinMajor]

​@@leao1012Who? 😂

[@Mal_Freeman0451]

He's won the league in more countries than any other manager and more Champions Leagues than anyone else. He provides strong evidence in the argument for who is the best, nevermind up there with the others.

[@vicsdunleavy21]

Don’t think he’s quite in THAT SAF and Guardiola GOAT class but he’s clearly world class.

[@cameroncopus9737]

He's won 4 Champions league's?@@vicsdunleavy21

[@campfirefootball]

There is a strange narrative that Ancelotti failed at Everton. I admit he didn't pull up any trees, but he didn't have the club in relegation trouble. They finished 12th and 10th in his 2 seasons. He had the best winning % of any Everton manager since Howard Kendall in the 80s (arguable Everton's most successful manager ever). He didn't do an AMAZING job, but it's not like things were dire.

[@mmapb1788]

Caichado?

[@lrm_footy9517]

We not world class anymore because we have owners dont know anything about football, mid tier directors, spursy manager. Thiago world class but is 40 and RJ who is always injured, few of the kids look decent but not at the level yet. UK government and rayne group done this to us. Ask the government were the money is from the sale of the club.

[@BridgeStamford]

You aren’t done. Here’s the mic 🎤 and keep spitting facts

[@danniwilder2198]

@Irm_footy9517 The new owners don't know anything about football? How do you know what they know & don't know? And how much did Abramovich know about football when he arrived in 2003, did he know anything about it? Did Liverpool & Man Utd's American owners know any more than Chelsea's new owners? Do the arabs of M City & Newcastle know anything about football?

[@lrm_footy9517]

@@danniwilder2198 This isn't a Q&A mate

[@gregordrizzlewing7339]

Yeah the only dudes that have been prior Chelsea level are Gusto & Palmer. I would throw Petrovic in there too but since he’s been number 1 he’s got a lot to learn. Caicedo has been hit or miss the price tag doesn’t help either. Need to cut a lot of players even players bought in the summer and at a big loss but as a soft reboot.

[@yester9037]

Ferguson didn't let pogba go , he chose to sign with Juve.

[@lferlance]

Can anyone please tell me the total cost of Chelsea's first team. Cause I'm sure it's not one billion.

[@christianjohn9359]

This is it part of that billion pound was never to be for the first team it part of investment in youth. This is all media nonsense

[@lferlance]

@christianjohn9359 Thank you, I thought I was the only one who noticed. Oh, can some please tell that fool G Neville to help him out

[@stan123blue]

In Euro's Petrovic 14m Gusto 25m Disasi 45m Colwill 0m (youth) Chilwell 50m Caicedo 116m Enzo 121m Palmer 47m Gallagher 0m Sterling 56m Jackson 37m Total for the startling 11 that day was 511million.

[@ashleyblanchard7280]

Some of these figures are wrong unless you have done euros. Even then some are out

[@Ishouldstudy69]

To answer your question: the total cost is 1+Billion.

[@amlmorris]

To gauge if a manager is elite or not is simple,the trophy's they've won & the clubs they won them with & the resources the manager had at his disposal to work with, it's not rocket science. Poch is clearly not an elite manager as he only won 1 french league in 2 years + 2 cups with 5× the budget of their nearest rivals . Winning that at PSG is nothing,Unai Emery won 7 trophy's in 2 years at the same club & has won 4 Europa leagues at 2 different clubs,3 in a row at Sevilla & 1 at Villareal + a semi final in the champions league with the same club which is insane given the size of the club,also the budgets at the latter 2 clubs he had to work with. Unai Emery is an elite manager & Poch is not, it's that simple.

[@kylowhen2639]

*trophies

[@danniwilder2198]

@amimorris Your reasoning just doesn't stand up to any scrutiny. It's a ridiculous assessment to be honest. Pochettino won the league title & a domestic cup in his one & only full season as manager of PSG. Where else, what other club, was Pochettino supposed to win trophies at, Espanyol, Southampton, Spurs? Those three teams do not win trophies, period. Espanyol & Southampton haven't won a trophy for the last six million years & regarding Spurs, even serial trophy winning managers such as Mourinho & Conte didn't get near winning a trophy with Spurs. But what Pochettino did do was become the most successful manager at Spurs in the last 60 years. No manager of Spurs has finished as high in the league as Pochettino did for over 60 years. Under Pochettino Spurs finished in the top 4 in four of the five seasons he was manager. The other season they finished 5th. Pochettino also took Spurs to a CL final, that's further than any manager in their history has taken them in the biggest competition of them all. You talk about Unai Emery winning trophies & it's true he's got a great record in the Europa Lge. But Spurs & Pochettino were competing in the CL & not the EL in all but one of Pochettino's season's at Spurs. Where has Pochettino had a big budget other than PSG & Chelsea? Pochettino did a much better job at Spurs than Emery did at Arsenal.

[@nathanaelshinavene5021]

Simon is so struggling to understand what Graham has against Palmer 😂😂😂

[@GarryShields-d8z]

Love this one on ones guys.....not aggressive, just having a chat...please keep it going

[@jonhayes7322]

Emery is currently the best manager in the PL

[@thekid12390]

This show is great. No screaming or yelling, just 2 men talking

[@Endtimesjesussaves]

The fact bob paisley never gets a mention is mind blowing and English manager that won three European cups a UEFA cup and 6 league titles how is he not a sir oh and he fought the Germans in Italy on the back of a tank ❤

[@April-rp2km]

Stirling should be in the England squad what you smoking Graham

[@Boy10Dio]

He's overrated and shouldn't be. most overrated player of the last ten years that sterling. he is what happens when solanke gets signed by pep.

[@seanhorgan5380]

If England had 3 squads going this summer I wouldn't bring Sterling in one of them

[@woods6800]

He shud be in Jamaica

[@kylowhen2639]

*Sterling *Graeme

[@mpeekay76]

Chelsea's job is to take trophies from World Class team. For every trophy in Chelsea's trophy case, a "World class" team is going without.

[@RahulRaj-fk8lg]

Where were these Pundits when Chelsea and Man Utd were fighting fir almost all the trophies and England and Europe between 2005 to 2013. Yes Chelsea is struggling under new ownership but hopefully it's not for long-term.

[@JoeSherlock88]

This is great banter 😄

[@samofohachinweuba1641]

People are working overnight to make it look likr Todd Boehly is cluless and doesnt know what he is doing, glad that Simon point them at the right direction. Abrahamovic didnt get it right on his first 3yrs, we won the league but we spent alot of money is all direction. sacked as many manager as he deemed fit. Todd is just 1yr plus into his reign but have already laid the foundation for future dominance. its just a matter of time. We just need a World class manager.

[@psychopaul508]

31 minutes 31 seconds I won't be wasting my life watching

[@jonhayes7322]

Ange? Spent £100m since September, and had the 3rd most expensive player in January

[@jamesfretwell1511]

Dont ever ask Simon Jordan to say anything bad about a fellow businessman whos invested in a premier league club. Hes not going to say nothing bad about them.

[@michaelhandy4968]

Sterling should be nowhere near the England squad

[@Man_from_UNCLE]

Battersea pronounced Batter siya is also known as South Chelsea

[@albertdeyi1541]

Tod Boehly surely paying Simon

[@williamrobinson4253]

Boehly's consortium did listen to the experts but the experts failed them. Aubameyang, Sterling, Koulibaly, Felix, Forfana, Cucurella added to coveted young players and an existing group of proven internationals should have been on paper a contender. A poor start led to confidence issues and the firing of Tuchel. Potter was the media choice but that failed as well. Plan B was to sell virtually the whole squad to save money on wages and start afresh with young players. You could say that this is the first season for them to gel so in that context it's easier to forgive the inconsistency.

[@StevenSimpkin]

As a Chelsea fan of 57 years watching Chelsea disintegrate after the early 70’s and never expecting to see Chelsea win a major trophy let alone the premier league and champions league this is a forced transition i think similar to Man Utd Hold tight

[@paddy4710]

6 league titles, not "3 or 4"!!! 5 Premier league titles in last 20 years! Compared to 1 Premier league title in 30 YEARS Souness!!

[@Otto-1943]

Graeme Souness manage somehow to bring Pogba into this. Lol.

[@riptonweir335]

Why some of these Brits like to celebrate near miss? As a Chelsea fan I don't think Gallagher is as good as some make him to be. What he does well is rough people up in the middle of the park but he's not a good passer, he over kicks free kicks and he definitely loses the ball too easily for me. There is much potential in the squad but we lack fight.

[@Graziak5]

Literally world champions 2 years ago……

[@wiltonmcdonald2399]

Graham is Spurs any where near the standard when you were there? I think not but it is a Big Club no matter what the naysayers may say. I and countless others was mortified when you left at age 18 because your path was blocked by the Legendary Dave McKay. We still think of you as one of us.

[@philipdavison3862]

Trouble with most chelsea fans they have now know very little about chelsea i started going there in 1965,we had good players but not enough to get to the top,we knew that and were happy to take what we could get,bates ran chelsea into the ground other than the last few years when we nearly went broke.RA came in and we kicked on winning more than we from the "old chelsea" could have ever dreamed,in the back of my mind i always thought we would lose RA by him being killed by putin,it was a thing i thought could happen,we lost him that way but not by killing him but killing thousands of others.These supporters have never had it this way,how long before they drift off only time will tell.

[@leecollison7527]

Can tell why Graeme is a dinosaur and hasn't managed for so long by saying at the start of Boehly's reign Chelsea needed a striker when they bought Cucurella. Look at Brighton under Potter, everyone kept saying "if they had a striker" over and over due to their xG. De Zerbi goes in with the same players and gets them scoring for fun. It's not always about the players, but the style and system you deploy them in.

[@FreddyK1273]

Mad how talksport have a failed club owner Simon Jordan to talk about football clubs and club owners. His opinion on these matters should be void. He’ll never criticise a club owner cause of how he failed himself cause of the hypocrisy. All well get is a biased opinion towards owners. He’s a fraud!

[@stephenmcewan9995]

Cole Palmer is class. Too similar to Foden to be in the same team that’s all - in my opinion

[@degeautd40]

Boehly madness just buy every player he can and hope for the best

[@CampslewTraining]

your know your one of the best one you have something no 1 else has.... so you can have 5 great at a table... sir alex, time and did the big 3 first (in england), wenger , time & unbeaten etc... you have to bring something the others dont have......

[@darkoanton5]

The ultimate decisions are made by non-football people. They're called owners. They hire the top-level staff (directors, managers). However, we listen to many pundits who are not football people, especially in the media.

[@kevintaylor9560]

World class managers ? Mourinho is a worldf class manager because he's changed the fortunes of clubs he's been at . Klopp is a world class manager because he changed the fortunes of clubs he's been at . Unai Emery . Arteta . Xabi Alonso . Some clubs , though , and you have to agree , are expected to challenge simply because of their stature and financial power . PSG , Bayern , Madrid , Barca , ManU , Man City . Look at the managers that managed tose clubs to success , you'd expect them to with the power they have beyond other clubs and I think ou'll agree that a small pool of managers basically get all the bigger jobs which , while it doesn't mean they're not great managers , is a different achievement to what Klopp has done at Liverpool , Mourinho at Porto , Inter and Chelsea , Arteta at Arsenal , Emery at Villa and Xabi Alonso at Leverkusen .

[@davidborwick2339]

Graeme please wait for people to stop talking before you start talking thanks fella.

[@neilmoore5387]

Ed Woodward? The man was an absolute clown. Couldn’t get a deal done to save his life. Not a football man.

[@jonhayes7322]

Chelsea began and ended with a younger side than Liverpool in the league cup final… Klopp narrative nonsense… 5/36 🏆

[@Lunapodthe1st]

Graham doesn't think Scotland are in the UK.

[@kylowhen2639]

*Graeme *is

[@dootwoot]

I like you Graham but Gallagher?😂 hes not on the same level as Cole Palmer 😂

[@SteveHiggs-d8m]

Try a no class club. That fits much better.

[@wiltonmcdonald2399]

Liverpool is Krupp’s third club Minz, Dortmund and Liverpool.

[@kylowhen2639]

*Mainz

[@scottishviking4240]

Talking about Chelsea, while man United are rotten but named as elite without a world class manager, mentioning city while they’re good now but in the other shows are doomed for ffp, talking about one league winner klopp without ranieri, and ok Tottenham who haven’t done a thing ever but built a great stadium? Arsenal who are nearly there but not quite? Chelsea are Londons champions leagues club ever, ask Simon what cities the best on earth? Apparently not a media mouth peice

[@bizzareblackout8073]

Why don't they have at least 1 Chelsea supporter here?

[@oumuamua1963]

If all you know is football you don't know football

[@wbelfast777]

Take the money men out of english football and liverpool and man utd are the only two world class clubs,maybe arsenal at a push.

[@myhatmygandhi6217]

Arsenal are def world class. They have history of trophies in the 1930's, they were great in the 1990's/2000's and they are the only club to win the league unbeaten, plus they get street cred for winning it playing good, attractive, attacking football. That's a world class club.

[@wiltonmcdonald2399]

I hope they will all be caught and charged fined points deducted and fined.

[@minenhlemthembu508]

Always coming for Chelsea..! Always!

[@kevinesdaille1028]

It's because Chelsea as the villan narrative sells in football

[@tonywilliams5489]

Chelsea owners more intelligent than Graeme

[@marineboy1964]

How about the 115 charges

[@QuentinMajor]

That's not Chelsea, mate.

[@jamesscott5603]

Thats Man city mate they are talking about Chelsea

[@ianbanks3016]

Two guys talking over each other for half an hour, no thanks.

[@kylowhen2639]

Off you go then

[@mamadoudiaby8940]

KZbin should ban this Pod It’s an international Crime to even ask the question about Ancelotti being World class!

[@creasicle]

I can't get over how much time Simon has for Todd Boehly. His whole model is built on a misconception that their players will only gain and never lose value. Yeah sure you've spent £105M on Fernandes and £115M on Caicedo and amortised it over many years but what happens if in 2 years you want rid of them? You ain't getting £80M-£85M back for those players. Then think about all those players who aren't even playing? You're definitely making a loss on them. Now consider that Chelsea won't be getting Champions League football for the second season running but you're running on a Champions League budget. I think they're in big trouble, I don't see them breaking even this summer, they'll probably get a points deduction and they won't be able to spend like they've done in the past two summers.

[@lfcspectre4335]

Jordan & Souness = Top LADS Proper Clobbers 💯 Facts

[@kyecypress]

Souness is the Joe Biden of football commentary/punditry.

[@hfwwf]

Starting to to get bored of the endless defining of 'world class'. Surely it's just the top echelon of something, i.e. the best class in the world. Is there a group of players categorically above Messi? No, therefore he's world class. Are there clubs that seem to be a category above Chelsea in success, prestige and global popularity? Yes, therefore Chelsea are not world class. But ultimately who cares.

[@frankieeefinn8798]

We were world class before these Americans came and ruined our club….. now we’re a mid table club at best

[@ScottGG-tq5ts]

Jordan is such a Boehly fan boy. Its embarrassing

[@Shdjdjxbdksk]

Still having a dog at Pogba, talk about kick a man whilst he’s down.

[@seydinaarafatsane4890]

He smoked😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@dtrueblue6322]

What I want to know is does Simon put his hair bleach through as tax expenses, I bet he does.

[@andreasmichaelides2391]

This discussion jumps around too much.

[@LilHazTV]

6:59

[@olaabimbola4636]

Souness timing in cutting in awful ?

[@ghostoftheyoutubefuture2630]

Simon needs to admit he just hates Arsenal with a passion. Ok it's fair that people call Arsenal bottlers after last season but soon as one of his golden boy teams get slapped with the same label he starts moving goalposts. The guy is disease to British media. Chelsea bottled that cup final, end of.

[@tincetince6029]

He doesn't know what he is talking about the little man Souness

[@jackendean5368]

Spent more time talking about united, these guys are obsessed

[@BabsW]

9:48 So Man City are in but Chelsea aren't? 🤣

[@Graziak5]

Yeah, total nonsense

[@virtuallimit3619]

Man City are much bigger

[@jailes4823]

Very interesting discussion regarding why Souness left spurs??? i can not recall any mention of not being picked for the first team???? all i can recall and which has been well documented over the years was that poor little Graeme was HOME SICK???

[@wiltonmcdonald2399]

That’s cheating!! 😅😂

[@Bootrosgali]

I think i get it now. Youre trying to hang on for the Arsenal special in hope that it goes wrong on the title.race so you can factor some bullshit laymans no clue what its like concept all over it.

[@shahilshah2997]

SJ is the 🤴 of envy and malignant talk

[@weeds56]

Simon, please use the correct terminology when describing other human beings. Inexperience does not equate to idiocy and never has.

[@nathanaelshinavene5021]

I want to smoke whatever Graham smoked.🙄

[@kylowhen2639]

*Graeme

[@MrNiuj]

Really good advert for make up artists.

[@CME_876]

When out Chelsea you guys have no content 😂😂😂😂

[@muhammadhanif4113]

Nothingham forrest 2.0

[@jamesm3704]

Simon Jordan loves a brown envelope from Clownlake

[@gdcfccfc]

Chelsea team start and finish of league cup younger and less experienced than Liverpool. He talks so much rubbish

[@danielperry4583]

Souness is intolerable. He loves nothing more than the sound of his own voice, he doesn't understand that the game has moved on, and is different to the game he played. Awful to listen to.

[@jcross996]

Getting an ex Liverpool players opinion on Chelsea is like asking your chocolate tea pot to cook you a fry up. Its just a waste of everyones time.

[@thezoid763]

I've kissed some frogs in my time💀

[@vo4068]

Carlo might be a so called “World class manager” but he did nothing at Everton, in terms of of a great improvement!

[@ThirdEye...]

Football clubs, the considered “top” ones are surviving thanks to a global corrupted system in all branches…people are slowly getting away from this sport!

[@Gagefelstead]

They're not though are they? The sport is getting bigger & bigger.

[@chibuezeunachukwu1162]

Putting poch on the same bracket as arteta and postecoglu is ludicrous. He's above both of them and don't let recency bias fool you into thinking any different

[@junglejim67]

Based on what?

[@k-mc12slayerentertainment.85]

Chelsea fan here I think he can get us back and fighting but we fans won't give him the support and time. Because every game we can hear the fan cussing him and the owners out and they the Match going fans have all right to feel how they feel.

[@myhatmygandhi6217]

Arteta and Ange are already after surpassing Poch.

[@chibuezeunachukwu1162]

@@myhatmygandhi6217 in what way are they surpassing poch? Poch was fighting for the title when arteta was still interning at man city. He overachieved with that Tottenham squad

[@junglejim67]

@@chibuezeunachukwu1162 postecoglou has won more trophies than poch has won games at Chelsea

[@dongorgon4168]

Johnny minerals is spot on. I used to think Jordan/Joe 90 was barely tolerable but entertaining - "walking dictionary" thing but he gets confused. Minerals is spot on - Jordan is in Clownlake's pocket. He repeatedly defends them and tries to tell us about their business model etc. He is trying to ingratiate himself into the Private Equity mob. He respects them and so lauds them. Levy as well. Insulting the Chelsea fans in the way he did says it all. Bloke's a clown. Love the minerals!

[@WOLFanddBEAR]

Souness need to find himself a nice retirement home where he can dream about the glory days.

[@Leewoods123]

If I had a quid for every time Graeme Souness said ‘I’ll come back to it’ ur he a millionaire. Utter melt