Simon Jordan On The Glazers Holding Out To Sell Manchester United | talkSPORT

Simon Jordan praises the Glazers for holding out to sell Manchester United until it suits them.
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[@philiph99]

Anyone that goes to United games, is probably wearing a shirt, paid 70 quid to get into the stadium, bought a pint and chips for 10 quid. Chanting "we want Glazers out" literally does nothing. If you want to hurt them, stop going to games, cancel subscriptions" If you genuinely think chants are going to drive businessmen out of a club, then youve been brainwashed by Sky sports. The fanbase can say theyve been "protesting for 18 years" but theyve only had one effective one where they got the game cancelled against Liverpool

[@TheAuthorizedJay]

I agree. It's so weird to see people protesting against the owners after they've paid probably over 100 quid to said owners to watch the game live. If they stopped giving them money, maybe they'd leave.

[@philiph99]

​@@TheAuthorizedJayit's laughable. Even last week, when fans stayed in the stadium "protesting". The same people paid to get into the stadium. They should do what Milan did, and literally boycott games

[@cestrian5294]

Been saying this for years, but nobody will ever do that. I hope the Glazers never go back to OT because they will be in danger.

[@TheAuthorizedJay]

@@philiph99 Imagine paying someone you hate to leave & being surprised when they stay 🤣🤣🤣

[@user-dq6se6er8j]

That reads like a liable threat. Be careful what you post online

[@NoMiddleName2]

Most Man United fans will agree on the business part of what Simon says. What I take issue with is how Simon always reduces the blame on the Glazers for our poor performances. Who do you think employs these incompetent employees?? You always say about how much money we spend but never take into account that we literally overpay for everything! A £40mil player for Liverpool would end up costing us £70mil plus double the wages. Our recruitment is a shambles because the Glazers employ incompetent employees. Also when Gary Neville says the Glazers are broke, he doesn’t mean they literally have no money and Simon must know this. Neville clearly means that they do not have the means to spend a billion on the rotting facilities in Old Trafford and Carrington. The only money that gets spend is purely on the clubs revenue or our increasing debt, which they quite simply cannot afford to keep increasing. People do not realise WE SPENT AS MUCH ON DEBT INTEREST LAST YEAR AS WE DID ON TRANSFERS BUT THE GLAZERS STILL TAKE DIVIDENDS

[@GoodVibesForFree]

Well said 👏🏻👏🏻

[@Darth-Boner]

I'm not reading that. You are someone who knows nothing.

[@josephkerrigan733]

@@Darth-Boner you're *

[@NoMiddleName2]

@@Darth-Boner you don’t have to

[@NoMiddleName2]

@@Darth-Boner everybody who comments is “a no one” so why are you in the comments section

[@keithstitt9532]

Glazer's delusional. The same people who thought Woodward was an excellent businessman, Ole was an elite manager and Martial is a top player! High stakes poker players.

[@iso460]

Glazers didnt look at Ole and thought "this is the perfect manager". Its people inside the club hired by them to make sporting decisions

[@keithstitt9532]

@@iso460 yes, just shows the level of negligence at United. Send financial reports and money. Everything else to be dealt with by the serving folk.

[@iso460]

@@keithstitt9532 I dont protect Glazers or anything. I just wanna spread, its pretty funny that Uniteds worth has growen over past decade just like Liverpool. But while Liverpool have owners who hire the right people, uniteds worth is by media, shirt sales etc. I think United are at a point where the WHOLE fanbase has to stop financing the Glazers pockets

[@keithstitt9532]

@@iso460 the only way to " hurt" the Glazer's is in their pockets. Totally agree.

[@EoinDonnelly123]

Man United fans asked for all this, they wanted Maguire, Pogba, Sancho, Sanchez, Martial etc and were happy with Ole until it all went wrong. Then they blame the glazers.

[@lfcspectre4335]

I quite enjoyed Stuart Pearce thoughts on this matter something Gary Neville should do more often.

[@alistairpayne5357]

Lol enjoyed that .

[@swiss300173]

Pearce made some valid points 🤣

[@Othraerir]

it looked like he was gonna say something, but simon just kept talking

[@sammybeck4855]

LFC Spectre = Top LAD Proper Clobber

[@Joelinton1892]

As depressing as it is for Man U fans protesting etc does nothing. When we wanted Mike Ashely out of Newcastle we did countless protests, 10000 fans didnt renew season tickets. None of it did anything. They will go when they want to.

[@BatTaz19]

Newcastle sold their soul to get rid of Ashley. No longer a great club. Sportwashing for head choppers.

[@Joelinton1892]

@@BatTaz19 fake activist

[@wayne5240]

@@BatTaz19original

[@KingDamienthefirst]

I'm a United fan with hope but your comment made a light bulb off and i realised 'Oh yeah it didn't help Newcastle' but please don't post comments like this, i'm depressed enough as it is and i'd rather live in a naive bubble of hope lol. You just sucked the joy out of the rest of my day loooool Good luck to Newcastle though, hopefully we can join you soon, we need Qatar

[@paulgreeves6304]

I'm not sure that Simon Jordan does himself any favor's by saying that the Glazers don't need to sell because "they are not short of a bob or two". He is correct in that the Glazer family are wealthy but what Simon fails to acknowledge is that the club needs over £2 billion spent on the stadium, training ground and infrastructure, then on top of that the club is servicing a debt of over £1 billion. Gary Neville's point is that the club has none of it's own money to pay for investment needed, £3 billion +, and the Glazer family will not invest any of their own money in order to pay for all these improvements, they never have invested. Simon is also correct in saying that there are people within the club that are not doing their jobs well enough but that is where the owners should be stepping in and employing the right people in the right roles, remember that it is the DoF and his team that give out ridiculous contracts to players, some United players get over £200k a week where other clubs would be paying that same player £80k a week, which leads on to why it is near on impossible to move these players on when it doesn't work out. The club is completely mismanaged at the top. What we need to remember is that United before the Glazers always had over £300 million in the bank and had the best stadium and training ground in the country, all paid for. All the Glazers had to do was maintain what was there and make small improvements year on year instead of taking ridiculous amounts of money out in dividends. Instead the club is debt ridden with a decaying stadium and training ground and it has maxed out all of it's credit cards.

[@davemufcwhitehead2863]

Bang on the money Paul. Couldn't of said it better myself. We all know once the club is sold. And we have no debt and we have a buyer willing to put money into the stadium. Training ground and employing the best in class people in there respective roles the club will go places. I believe we have the right coach. We badly need a dof that knows what he's doing. The recruitment going forward is important to get the correct players to fit ten hags system. And get rid of all the toxic players. Player power at man united needs sorted out. But again if we have the correct owners and make the correct decisions the sky is the limit. We have what city don't have. The history, the fan base. We could over take them again in 5 years if done correctly. Getting rid of these leaches is another thing that's the problem. Holding out for 10 billion is simply outrageous!

[@gustaaf1892]

You are totally correct in what you've stated with the possible exception of inflating the cost of doing the long outstanding infrastructure refurbishments. It is almost unbelievable that these greedy leeches aren't satisfied with a 6 billion return on the 200 million investment out of their own pocket to buy the club, which they've already had returned through dividends they have gauged out of the club. As we all know, the remaining borrowed money to buy the club was put on to United's tab and that debt has actually grown. They are running the club into the ground. If Qatar withdraws their offer to buy another EPL club, United will inevitably fall yet another rung down the ladder. For greedy people they sure know how to waste money by not appointing a capable Director of football to avoid paying highly inflated transfer fees and salaries for players that aren't priority signings.

[@MrSupermanbe]

@@gustaaf1892 I am not even sure the £200m was from their pockets. It was a heavily leveraged purchase.

[@rossmcgowan123]

How does Simon not do himself any favours? The glazers can bleed the club dry. They don't need to care about investment. They can keep their money and reap the revenue You've not made sense.

[@gustaaf1892]

@@MrSupermanbe My understanding is that it was around 200m of their own money with the remaining 600-650m leveraged against the club.

[@TribalThief]

Stadiums rotting, they've never spent a penny

[@GKwan111]

I like Stuart Pearce’s ability to listen and let Simon say his piece. Without interrupting. We should all try and do this.

[@kaisersolo76]

While simon is probably correct - they'll have a shell of a club thats falling apart and losing value. Stadium is a serious concern.

[@nickraoyj]

Imagine if a disaster happens at Old Trafford and the stadium requires instant repair, that would finally force their hand, as morbid as it sounds.

[@ameypv]

the on and off the field failings will soon catch up to this club and the market value will dwindle rather than rise. United are a sinking ship and the day isn’t too far when this club will a shadow of its former self while the others are streets ahead.

[@wukongsun6223]

I see people that doesn't fully understand the financial market

[@MadMurdock69]

​@@ameypvUtd as a club will never sink..

[@gustaaf1892]

@@MadMurdock69 It won't disappear, but it is at risk of just becoming a run of the mill club that is not able to compete for major silverware. Truth is that it has already become that, but it could get a lot worse. People didn't think that a club like AC Milan could become an also ran, but they were for many years and are still trying to climb the ladder once again. United falls short on so many fronts that it is almost embarrassing. It can't even employ a decent Director of Football to avoid paying highly inflated transfer fees and salaries for players that aren't priority signings. There is a serious risk that United could fall out of the top 6 this season. I think that any of City, Liverpool, Arsenal, Brighton, Spurs, Villa and Newcastle will or could finish above us and we could finish around where I expect Chelsea to be.

[@nathanliepner689]

The problem with Simons closing statementn is he talks as if the glazers were the ones to bring success to united, which brings the proposed value of the club where it is today. All they did was piggy back off the success of Ferguson

[@zl132]

so what? no one gives a monkeys about your salty feelings. Least of all the glazers. They bought the club at a price the ex owners felt fair and will sell at a price they deem fair. if you don't like that, buy it yourself

[@DB-07]

@@zl132they bought….not entirely. They leveraged the club and put the club in debt. How it was ever allowed to happen is a disgrace.

[@NoMiddleName2]

Simon needs to actually debate somebody who properly understands the terrible impact of the Glazers on our club. I have a feeling his lack of blame on them for our terrible performances is largely just for attention. Just wants to go against the grain for the sake of being devils advocate but the argument falls flat almost immediately with any sort of pushback.

[@adammohamed..]

So do they take credit when United won the league 5/7 years from 06-07 to 12-13?

[@TheDevilsAccountant]

​@@adammohamed..no fergie does

[@PharmacyAve]

Simon is spot on Glazers spent all the money got all the Ajax players for the manager got you a CR what else y’all want from an owner ?

[@jebsshmeb224]

@@PharmacyAve The Glazers (i.e the owners) didn’t spend a penny on these transfers. They didn’t invest a penny into the football club. The money that was used for those transfers was from THE CLUBS revenue, NOT the OWNERS investment. There’s a clear distinction

[@indobleh]

It's not *your* club though. It's the Glazers club, they own it. Simon debating you or anyone else outside of the owners isn't going to make any difference. The fans do not own anything, they are customers, who continue paying.

[@andrewroberts4736]

If they decide not to sell, Gary Neville will spontaneously combust. 😂

[@nickraoyj]

Lol if the Glazers truly don't sell, think we will finally see some genuine violence committed, either at Old Trafford or against the Glazers directly. Nothing is worse than dangling a carrot in front of a hungry person for so long and then snatching it away at the last second. Push someone too far, and you must get ready to pay. The violence against the Everton board last season is a harbinger of what's to come.

[@whoknew2273]

Cue old Trafford invasion lol

[@pabloes588]

Think he will when Labour don’t win the next election as well 😂

[@petemills5704]

And will probably broadcast it for a fee

[@richyclubsport5155]

You might not like what Simon is saying, but that's how billionaires work, I've never felt they'd sell

[@myhatmygandhi6217]

Simon was proven right. He knows the business side of things and called this ages ago.

[@cavior44]

The word is that the Glazers asked Maguire and he said no. He makes the decisions and runs that club.

[@vo4068]

I sometimes think Simon is the only adult in the room, he has some logic !

[@sopronunciareglignocchi7255]

He's way off the mark

[@myhatmygandhi6217]

​@@-The-DarksideUtd fans going on about the stadium again. It's not that bad and when they do decide to sell the club they will get at least 6 or 7 billion. Ultimately, it's their business and they can do as they like.

[@yohan7165]

What Simon says is technically correct but I hate the way he paints the Glazers as some sort of financial geniuses. All they did is a leveraged buyout. It's very common practice. The way the glazers have conducted themselves in exploring opportunities (which definitely does also mean a sale) is shockingly arrogant

[@pdfarrelly]

This argument would hold more water if the glazers didn't go to Qatar to try and drum up interest in a sale and if their other businesses were successful. They haven't kept pace with the increase in revenue that united had over rivals before they bough us. Simon said it when he went the glazers think if someone offers 5 they'll go to 7, if they offer 6 they go to 7. You can push your luck too far.

[@huna1950]

Sand boys went to blazers not other way round mate!! They don’t need to sell

[@pdfarrelly]

@huna1950 well you are just wrong on that. It's in the press and online by multiple sources. They didn't draw down a dividend for the first time in years this year and are losing about 1 to 2 million a week. They can keep united on life support. Especially if 5th gets CL. But they are not interested in "winning". The club has been for sale from moment they bought it.

[@gustaaf1892]

@@pdfarrelly I think they went to Qatar to discuss an increased bid from them, but Qatar had made the initial contact to bid for the the club. Based on what I've seen so far this season, I think it is very doubtful United will finish in the top 5. I think that any of City, Liverpool, Arsenal, Brighton, Spurs, Villa and Newcastle will or could finish above us and we could finish around where I expect Chelsea to be. ETH performed a miracle last season to get third, but we're not playing anywhere near that level now and don't have the money to improve the squad in January.

[@seniorvespa2743]

Simon is 100% right and I am a Man U fan. The Glazers bought Man U with very little money, as they knew the banks would lend them the rest, like when buying a house, the asset in this case being Man U Club was undervalued by the previous owners, hence the banks agreeing with Glazers and giving them the rest of the money to buy it. So if fans really want to be upset with the way it was bought, the fault lies with the previous sellers and they invited this kind of purchase.

[@andrewhoughton2617]

Anyone who knows the history or our club doesn’t refer to us as ‘man u’. Go do some research. GLAZERS OUT

[@seniorvespa2743]

@@andrewhoughton2617 hahahahaha you are funny

[@astrologiaeaudiobooks7278]

Hear it, Mark Goldbridge!

[@alexanderodiase361]

Sad, but Simon is speaking truth.

[@Moe226]

If they got only 1 buyer at around 6B what makes them think they going to get 10b in two years. Another case if there was a lineup of prospective buyers currently.

[@nickraoyj]

You can thus deduce why United are operating in a confused, deluded manner.

[@jamieh4357]

Especially if they drop even further behind by then and can't count on all these additional revenue streams like the Club World Cup etc that they're banking on.

[@Moe226]

@@jamieh4357 absolutely. by the way things are going, the value will only decline

[@gustaaf1892]

The club is only valued at around 3 billion, but the greedy leeches aren't satisfied with close to a 6 billion return on the investment of just 200 million of their own money to buy the club, which has already been well and truly returned to them through the dividends they have clawed out of the club. I expect Qatar to move on and buy another EPL, which would inevitably push United another rung down the ladder. Their current offer is effectively about 2 billion more than it appears on face value because they are also taking on a billion in debt as well as about a billion in necessary and long overdue infrastructure refurbishments. There is a limit to how much over an asset valuation even the filthy rich Qataris are prepared to pay.

[@declanokeeffe84]

Sentimentality will force businesses hands if United supporters vote with their feet and stop supporting them financially. I'm also surprised that United supporters have not held protests at Tampa Bay Bucaneers games. This tactic had a big effect on previous owners out when United fans protested during horse race meetings.

[@paulie-g]

.. and look how well that's gone, now they have the Glazers. Done it to themselves.

[@josephdormon478]

No wonder he failed with Crystal Palace Absolute joke

[@jazchaz1274]

Simon Jordon summed it up perfectly.....lots of thngs are going to happen in the future and the Glazers want a piece of the action Why would they sell???? They don't need to.... You would do the same...🧐🧐🧐🧐

[@jonchapman86]

I find it strange when United fans and Gary Neville complain about the Glazers. Fergie once said "They have been great, they have always backed me whenever I have asked them. I have never faced any opposition. "They have always been as sensible as they can be in terms of financing the club." People below the Glazers have not been doing their jobs well enough in recent years.

[@richardduff5894]

Simon Jordan can do one

[@ashleybailey8230]

I really enjoyed stuart pearce take on this subject.

[@JelloShots-wg6tz]

Long May the Glazers Reign! GGMU

[@paul-ht7fq]

You seem slightly obsessed and a bit dim but you never know that might change when you grow up

[@steevobarker581]

Since when as a World Cup been in a year with an odd number at the end? Knows his stuff does Jordan. Says a lot without saying much.

[@acstewart08]

Utd fan here, the fans can protest all they want. The bad publicity has hardly made them budge. They don’t care what fans have to say, wasting their time now protesting and should get behind the team. One day hopefully it will all change as the biggest club in the world has had this horrible toxic environment for years now.

[@EKANT1000]

Finally simon is saying its the glazers fault of their failures...

[@wilber1982]

Totally agree with Stuart Pearce on this one.

[@jamesasc7709]

they never said selling, they said "seeking investment". Same as FSG.

[@Petrosmurf9]

Idk as a United fan yea the glazers bother me, they aren’t allowing us to grow and get to where we should be but at the end of the day THEY are the owners, not me.

[@johnfulco8313]

Simon should do some research. Avram glazer spoke directly to the media about them looking at all scenarios. Surely TalkSport can take 10 minutes to prep?

[@lammedus5503]

The man asking if the next world cup is on 2025 … who is this guy ? Why is he even on this football podcast ?

[@ghsense2626]

United is worth atleast 10 billion. That 5 billion dont make sense. They could sell their American football team for that amount of 5 billion

[@Steiner08150]

I truly hope the glazers never sell up and there marvellous tenure with this bog standard mid table club continues for a long time to come. 🤞🏻

[@kc8923]

Simon looks a bit tired and seems permanently short tempered but i always enjoy listening to his insights on football finance and ownership.

[@kevinduff3584]

Simon doesn't understand this when he says there are people at the club who are "not doing their job" but who employs them oh wait a minute it's...the Glazers!

[@chrisbrader7720]

Absolutely Spot on!

[@Boy10Dio]

had a bunch of accountants for utd fans trying to tell me that a club can't be worth 10 billion. no skin off my back at the end of the day, welcome to the world mr accountants.

[@TimGreenHelm]

Appreciate Stewart’s input on that one

[@RJAH355]

They have no intention of selling the club. It’s also a very good way to get the shares to go up and make profit

[@Fabbydabby1]

The glazers will sell soon as they can’t await to maintain the club. They can’t afford to fix the stadium or the training complex. Simon going on about other clubs The big difference is the debt levels at Man Utd are huge. Other clubs don’t have that level of debt. Now you could argue they have spent money on players but Richard Arnold came out & said the club needs 1 billion to fix the stadium now where’s that money coming from more debt? Then that has a knock on affect to buy players & then Man Utd stop competing at top 6 level because they have to service the debt interest. So then spending is cut other clubs are already taken over them in overall income made a season.

[@CastleLager-lf5eu]

Qatar should buy an up and coming club like Brentford for a billion and then spend a billion in bring it UCL qualifying club. Or even Aston Villa - such a great club with a great history. That is so much better. Man Utd is a finished club living on the glories of the past. They have almost no young fans. The newer generations look at them with pity and revulsion. Or as a club worthy of memes like Harry Maguire, and Phil Jones.

[@chd1694]

Glazers are staying so the fans and players need to get on with it.

[@mbrom7161]

Scummy Glazers have put all the prices this season.. tickets, memberships, shirts.. etc.. everything has gone up.. they've definitely done that to inflate the price of the club... so they obviously wanted at some point to sell some of it, if not all. They are deluded to think we are worth anything up to 10bill in the longer term with a tired stadium and a poor fan experience. Build us a new stadium on par with spurs and sort out the surrounding areas with a decent fan zone... renovate the training facilities and then see what it could be worth.

[@slimbuoyjoe5238]

Stop attending, buying merchandise, sponsors everything. Start invading pitches and disrupting matches. Hit the Glazers in the pocket and keep doing it until they go.

[@neeleshc5527]

MU fans in UK and worldwide should just stop going to the games and spending on MU T-shirts, shoes, etc which club sells until club is taken away from Glazers... Only this will teach them a lesson to sell the club... Only once they suffer a huge loss, they will sell...

[@seanusher3162]

I think the Glazers deal was a dodgy deal in the first place tbh🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️why would you buy Man United for 10 billion where they could buy Everton say and build a team with 10 billion. Because success builds success,

[@gustaaf1892]

That is exactly what I expect Qatar to do. Withdraw their bid and then buy another EPL club on the cheap to build into a force. Everton would actually be a good target.

[@footballoldboy4818]

When the club was up for sale, not one fan group tried to buy it. Tells you everything. The fans love to moan. If you're that offended and the club has 50m fans around the world, £140 each would buy it. Then you can all chip in for the stadium improvements and players you want. Stop moaning otherwise.

[@forestfan7974]

Value of Premier League clubs has peaked. It is hard to see where more revenue is going to come from. Very little chance of more matches. TV rights are priced at optimal level. Where in the world is there an opportunity to sell more TV rights? England is not prospering so I think any buyer could wait five years and get as good a deal as they can now.

[@alancawfield6549]

It's their club , they can do whatever they want with it. Fans of English clubs are delusional, they are customers of the club not stakeholders whether they like it or not. Barcelona, Real Madrid , Bayern Munich are proper clubs as they are owned by the fans, Man Utd have never been owned by the fans , they had plenty of opportunity over the years to try and lead a fan based takeover but they've never even attempted it properly.

[@yvonnelawless320]

More money is needed for Old Trafford, Carrington renovation also the team needs major investment to compete. The value will fall as the stadium and squad rots

[@ForzaMilan-di2zd]

Utd literally need to have an empty stadium every week till they go. But the fans won’t do that, so stop moaning. We should protest to keep the Glazers in 😂

[@desdicadoric]

United fans need to stop buying united products and start boycotting sponsors

[@dannyalexander6197]

Roman Abramovic actually loved Chelsea and football in general Simon.

[@3chords490]

The Glazers don’t care about the football club or the fans. Notice how Jordan keeps talking about “ selling the business “ and “ maximising returns “ and “ the market place “ and all that business b*******. The fans and the football team come last. It’s a dire situation for any club.

[@johannforbes3252]

It’s quite simple….If the Saudis are prepared to pay £1billion for a single player then how much can they cough up for an entire club?

[@pop-nl2ji]

Pearce is the realest guy in the room

[@ernestkola0]

Simon is right 1 million 💯💯💯

[@brianfarman2747]

Simon Jordan talks a lot of sense Utd will be sold when it suits the Glazers and that will probably be sometime 2025

[@peterookotai6965]

7-10 Billion?? that's absurd.

[@pabloes588]

The thing is if the glazers actually cleared house and started again with best in class around eth then united will be successful again and the value will rise It’s been 10 years and they’ve done nothing so don’t see how the value will rise in fact I see it decreasing if the current people remain in charge

[@angmungkonyak3096]

A relegation into Championship could cut the price down

[@antoncommissaris4198]

Simon justifies everything as pure, smart business. Ok, but this ignores the fact that the club brand is in decline and losing value. It will not increase in value over the longer term with these owners no matter the external market factors. Moreover, any future potential bidder will look at the current process and think, that’s not for me. It’s not good business to hold onto an asset as it declines and build yourself a toxic reputation in the process. I think they’ll end up selling for less down the track than they could get now. How smart will the Glazers look then Simon? Only two bidders today. I predict zero at $7-10 billion.

[@Unitedbro1999]

Think what gary was eluding too is not that they're broke... how could they be when theyve taken dividends out for nearly 20 years, but that the club itself is broke. They have milked it for all its worth, they haven't put a penny in of their own money in 18 years dont think they'll start now. If there isnt a full sale there will have to be investment.

[@NoahLookman9191]

Surely United's revenue is so vast for that not to be the case

[@Unitedbro1999]

@@NoahLookman9191 they spend around 100 million a season serving the debt, that 500 million Simon was talking of, we have paid about 800 million back to the bank in debt repayments and still have debt.

[@goncaloamaral7846]

The club isn’t broke. Utd have the 2nd highest net spend in the PL this summer.

[@Unitedbro1999]

@@goncaloamaral7846 the club is a billion in debt with a rotting stadium and training ground, if it was still as profitable as ever they wouldn't even be contemplating selling it. Take your rival specs off for one second, have a look and actually use your brain

[@MoltenGriefing]

@@goncaloamaral7846 they arent using cash reservers thats using the club credit card. widely reported

[@jimc8609]

The American model is that you don’t make money when you buy a sports franchise, often not even when you own one. The money is made when you sell it. Glazers are following that path beautifully

[@davemufcwhitehead2863]

The money there holding out for is something that might have been possible if they put man uniteds own money into the club. The stadium, training ground, and correct best in class people in the job roles to help the club succeed. They have spent nothing on the stadium, training ground. Give there mates jobs there clearly not qualified to do. Haven't cleared the debt and made shocking decisions. The only thing they have done beautifully is shafted us the fans and run the club into the ground. There a disgrace.

[@Maax1200]

Glazers are not broke, the club is. You all if all people should know this Jordan.

[@frogmanbrabs]

I wonder if relegation is the answer to getting rid of the Glazers. The way United have started this season it could be on the cards.

[@chd1694]

Very good comments on here. Unfortunately, sir alex and david gill are gone forever. At least ten hag won a trophy 🏆 with this motley crue. Should of kept and BACKED Mourinho.

[@123HeadRed]

None of you know anything, so butt out... quite frankly, Simon isn't exactly an adversary for ownership is he? Crystal Palace, tin, Utd, Gold... big difference.

[@mn2k2shox]

The whole point is that they never had ANY intention to sell whatsoever and I don’t care what anyone says.. they only did that to ease the fans.. to make it look like they tried but can’t find anyone to match their valuation and how can anyone meet that, when they constantly moving the finishing line? United was valued between 3-5 Billion so they wanted 6.. then when they were offered 6.. they wanted 7 and now apparently they wanted 10Billion!!!.. they’re making easy money with United since the club constantly making Millions no matter how terrible the team form has been and they don’t have and never have to put any of their own money back to the club

[@christophersmith9838]

So the stock value alone is about 3.5b. Soooo….it’s what the market will bear. But they were offered way more- hence the reason the stock dropped significantly today. They lost what it cost them initially but they don’t care as they didn’t actually use any of their own money to buy it.

[@philtaylor8863]

Simon has not done his homework on the glazers. They borrowed all the money to buy Utd their portion was mortgaged off their shopping mall business. It’s all debt. The shopping mall business is now in massive debt due to online shopping. The glazers are up the creek. Come on Simon do your homework lad.

[@baileycj354]

Simon would be a good teacher

[@1995abv]

The buyers determine worth not the sellers

[@ArchieFatcackie]

Whatever people might think about Jordan he really nails it and says it as it is. He’s spot on here.

[@davoggdog]

Spot on Stuart 👍

[@robzombie5928]

United arent going to be worth more with Glazers in charge because they wont do what needs doing to make it be more valuable.

[@davidsmart494]

The clubs in an absolute mess.. all want want is communication and some direction .. glazers out

[@jackwei22]

Either way the club hasn't got anymore money and cleary needs investment one way or another as Joel ans Avarm knows this as a full sale is the easy way out or taking on investiment with high interest rates repayment plan putting more debt onto the club I don't know about that.

[@gavincunningham4598]

Supposedly such a big rich club now have Evans and Maguire at centre backs

[@martinsundland7614]

Ten Hag seems to have decided to turn tables on the Glazers by displaying that the lack of stability re. the ownership and willingness to spend money on top-notch recruits leads to lacklustre results which, in turn, lowers the value of the club and, thereby, what they can reasonably expect in return. What a mess!

[@ZAK-89]

Glazers Out 😡

[@davidlogan8905]

Probably the only thing the fans can do is take actions that can devalue the club, but do fans really really want to do that? They could do things that give Utd points deductions and ensure no CL football. That is cutting off your nose to spite your face in a sense, but it'd make the Glazers think about it.

[@TheRightWayRoundTRWR]

Makes no sense. If there are only 2 people trying to buy the club now and only want to offer 5b. Then why would anyone want to buy the club for 10b in 5 years

[@samsummers1812]

They never wanted to sell

[@rossmcgowan123]

Simon started off rough around the edges I think. He was a bit like Piers Morgan at times. Just pushing the boat out sometimes. Contriving contradictory and controversial statements. But he's about the only person I tune into now. Well Shearer too. They actually think. There seems to be this belief amongst onlookers that if you have played football, you understand it. But most pundits or commentators don't. Simon does. So it's good to listen to someone who can actually build a good point.

[@Primitive01]

Can’t really argue with what he’s saying in terms of it being a business but it’d be good if rules were brought in to give fans more of a say.. They have it in Germany and I’m sure it’d work here too.. The Premier League is a brand, clubs wouldn’t lose out on anything the Premier League already brings them and clubs as individual businesses could still hire people like Ed Woodward to go do massive sponsorship deals with Chinese noodle companies and bring in mega amounts of money.. It would just mean if the training facilities need upgrading, they’d get upgraded, if a leaky roof needed fixing, it’d get fixed, people with the interests of a club as their priority ensuring the club isn’t used as a “cash cow” and decisions are made for the betterment of the football club.. Football is more than bunch of businesses and a football club isn’t a typical business, it’s the sport of the people all over the world and football clubs are started by communities of people who love the sport.. They’re not started by rich men who see it as an opportunity to make money, those people push their way in waving cash about and rinse the sport while having zero clue about it..

[@Stevandoren1003]

They love money so they will not spend any money that will not make them money. Why invest in the stadium or the training facilities? That doesn’t make money.

[@ebilondon]

Hardcore Man Utd fans have not done what is effective. You have got to hit the Glazers where they will feel it and that has not been done until now. There is no need for violance. Simply do what the "Just stop oil" protestors do. Sit and prevent team buses and players from getting into Old Trafford on match days. Block the entrances. Prawn sandwich eating fans can go into the stadium but if there are no players to play in the stadium, it is pretty pointless. Once matches at OTD get cancelled, UTD share prices will get hit very quickly and that will dent Glazers. Sure Utd will get points deducted but sometimes ripping off the bandaid hurts.

[@rickyslater5244]

Stuart Pearce sat there like a sponge taking it all in

[@dontbewoke]

A wonderful expose of the brutality and remorselessness of global capitalism. One of Talksports finest ever broadcasts.

[@brianharkin]

Empty old Trafford until the Glazers leave

[@Sundance_xx]

You can be as dillusional as you want but there will come a point where every game will be canceled due to fan disruption.....its coming

[@sheenyheed]

No it isn't 😂

[@Sundance_xx]

@sheenyheed that's what they said in the 90s when Sky tried to buy Man Utd.... Man united is an institution. It has fans which are amongst the most influential and powerful people in the world and when push comes to shove it will be displayed in all its glory

[@NEWCASTLE.UNITED.]

Prob better selling now before saudi pro is the number 1 place to go then devaluing the prem league

[@dingapotamuss6213]

I'd theorise that the Glazers have done what they did to short the shares and bet against them, why else market the club for sale only to pull the rug knowing fine well the share will plummet. I bet if they were investigated you'd find they've made a considerable amount of money but they'll be clever enough to try and disassociate their name from all actions.

[@segnifeyssa7673]

United pitches performance doesn't matter to the business according to Simon