Simon Jordan goes on an 𝙚𝙥𝙞𝙘 𝙧𝙖𝙣𝙩 about the Man Utd

[@adamcox2503]

Been a United fan since the late 70's. Not been to a game or spent a penny on the club since the Glazers took over. That's a real protest. 🔰

[@GTF85]

And if everyone did that it would work mate, fair play to ya, from a Red down the motorway.

[@godseye13k]

How is it. Like its made a diff only person loosing is u. They iwn a multi million if not billion pound buisness would u walk out because people dont like u. As if u would there is not alot of people in the world who can take on that fund. So what the f do want there going nowere, keep staying away from the games someone else will just take your place. 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@amselite11tv]

@@godseye13k Point being if everyone took a stand then it would make a difference. I.e putting principle ahead of feeling.

[@godseye13k]

@@amselite11tv billionaires do not get to were there are by listen to moaning fans. U have had it good for many yrs. Now its time for a change. Its no big thing mate its what happens history is there for us all to see. Not one club deserves to be at the top for ever. Take klopp and pep out of the league and man its arnt far of. So what u moaning for.

[@amselite11tv]

@@godseye13k So because Utd were successful in the past we are not allowed to protest an ownership who are the only owners who take dividends out of the club and have put us in huge debts? Not sure you understand the protests. It's nothing to do with success or failure.

[@beatthepress9112]

Shock horror, former football club chairman that rinsed the club and drove them into bankruptcy doesnt see a problem with the Glazers. Colour me shocked.

[@senzokai3156]

He chose against claiming a part of his investment in the club, letting it go into administration so he didn't go bankrupt. The club is back today because administration is meant to find a new buyer at a subsidised value. If he did the opposite, the club would thrive but he'd be done. Am I to assume you'd take the same decision if faced with the same dilemma? There's a reason football clubs aren't profitable and those who want to keep them profitable are the ones fans cry and moan about because they justifiably are poor owners who aren't pumping money.

[@beatthepress9112]

@@senzokai3156 you clearly have no clue about the united ownership then. They’ve spent nothing of their money, whilst extracting millions in dividends, spending nothing on the upkeep of the stadium and spending some of the cash the club makes, irrespective of them, on star players who can generate wealth in terms of marketing and sponsorships. Nothing about Uniteds wealth should have them “unprofitable” or struggling except for the priorities of the leech owners.

[@senzokai3156]

@@beatthepress9112 I wasn't talking about United. Way to use that non sequitur to turn the narrative, buddy. The poor management of the club is a valid reason for the protests. Protesting because your club was bought with debt is just an idiotic temper tantrum that isn't not expected from people living in the real world, where business have such guidelines for a reason. You spoke of Simon's credentials and decision-making to send Crystal Palace into administration. That's what I was responding to. Don't tell me that taking dividends out of a club prevent the club from competing. Dividends are a mere small percentage of the total profits made in a year. The problem with the Glazers is how they run a club, and I see nothing in your argument that refutes a perfectly logical point Simon made about what the purpose of the protest is. If you want to talk about United then you also need to understand that businesses aren't charity. The community angle to football is what allows fan such right to protest and they're absolutely right to. Anywhere else though, and this argument about taking money from the club is foolhardy and myopic. You don't buy businesses to keep pumping your own money into it. You do it to keep the cash flow going and make profits from it. Even if you go the other way with value appreciation over the years, United's problem isn't that they take money out. It's that taking money out is just indicative of the kind of owners the Glazers are. Again. Protests are meaningless without a purpose and a way to arrive at a solution. Unless someone buys the club, the protests will go on even if United dominate like they did before. Again, that shows a clear lack of real world understanding of business and economics.

[@beefsuprem0241]

The Glazers have made sure they're always paid well I'm sure, but they've not skimped on the playing squad have they? Their main error for me is keeping an archaic management structure, jobs for mates attitude in place. The club's stuck in the past in many ways , class of 92, utd way, DNA 🤮 They've stood still while the rest moved forward.

[@danieljoseph369]

They replaced C. Ronaldo & Tevez with Valencia & Owen. Sir Alex's side was made up of ageing legends and under par academy players. Once he left they renegotiated the interest on the bank loan so have been able to spend big but spent badly.

[@beefsuprem0241]

@@danieljoseph369 Valencia over his time would go down as a success, replacing the goat was always to be difficult. Owen was a bum for sure. I'm sure there's many many people involved between owner and sir Alex who scout and pick players. That can't be just their fault. The lack of investment in real estate and facilities is damning of them though.

[@Big_Fraze]

@@beefsuprem0241 United fans are not complaining at money spent. They are complaining that the Glazers constantly take money out of the club to slowly pay off the debt that they purchased the club with. They have put NONE OF THEIR OWN MONEY into the club, they purely use it for business sense and have no interest in the success on the pitch. The only money they have spent is what the club makes, they have invested nothing.

[@danieljoseph369]

@@beefsuprem0241 Valencia was steady but not good enough. Yeah the people employed by the Glaziers have spent the money badly no doubt

[@Redman680]

@@beefsuprem0241 You're wrong about Fergie & signings. He had the only & final say, til the day he left.

[@philiph99]

Anyone at the stadium protesting was wearing a 50 quid top, paid 50 quid to get into the stadium and probably purchase a pint and chips for 10 pounds. Getting the #Glazersout trend literally does nothing. If you want to hurt them, cancel subscriptions, don't go to matches. Goes back to the saying actions are louder than words. If you think that a "protest" like that is going get business men out of a club, then you've been brainwashed by Sky sports and live in a world of sentiment and emotion. Well lads, I'm back and I watched the game last night. If you didn't see the match last night, there was a banner saying "we walk out on the 73rd minute". Just to let yee know, the fans holding that banner have achieved absaloutely nothing as they gave 50 quid in gate receipts to the owners. Moronic fans

[@daveduck4315]

Then go out of the ground and drive home to Kent

[@hikemods-oldchannel5582]

Even if we dont go to the ground someone else will take the ticket... there is no other way to protest the glazers. we cant boycott man united ffs are you daft?

[@donvitocascioferro4040]

They're not the brightest in Manchester

[@twenty2143]

Spot on unfortunately they're too thick to work that out themselves lol

[@philiph99]

@@hikemods-oldchannel5582 no I'm not daft actually, I'm giving you a basic undertaking of how a business Man thinks. You're hashtag and words literally do nothing. It shows how thick the UTD fanbase is

[@davidwebster5946]

He said the same thing about Newcastle fans with Mike Ashley. Basically a fans job is to bend over and take it quietly from whoever happens to own their club and how dare they ever think about kicking off Newcastle fans protested for years, boycotted the club merchandise and towards the end of Ashley's reign 10's of thousands of fans walked away and he had to start handing away free tickets and the ground couldn't sell out anymore. Nobody other than Ashley will really know if the pressure told in the end but I personally think Ashley saw the writing on the wall and sold up while he could. Had we listened to the head of the owners union Simon Jordan then he could still be here

[@alvinanis3006]

Simon as per usual being the Glazers' mouthpiece

[@IrishFrank22]

Will you buy United please and spend all your money 😂

[@neilg6675]

@@IrishFrank22 the glazers didnt

[@IrishFrank22]

@@neilg6675 They did actually that's why their the owners dUrP

[@neilg6675]

@@IrishFrank22 if you don't know what you're talking about, say nothing. Life lesson for you

[@IrishFrank22]

@@neilg6675 so the billion plus the glazers spent in the last 10 years wasn't real? You should take heed of your own life lesson 🤣

[@corvus2512]

It always blows my mind when people think shouting about the glazers will do anything.... stop buying kits, stop buying tickets, stop buying anything that will go into their pockets.... enough people do that and maybe it shifts their position, whether that’s selling the club or investing in the club in better ways to start winning. Every United fan that stuck up for the previous manager is to blame, you’ve allowed that club to be mediocre, don’t then complain when they are

[@fivehundrediq5212]

That does nothing, merchandise/ Stadium Attendance is only a fraction of a teams revenue, the Majority comes from Television Revenue

[@chriser555]

It blows my mind that people thinking that stop buying tickets or kits will change anything. TV and sponsorship money is how the Glazers and their kind make the dosh. The stadiums could literally be empty every week and they would still make money, just like they did during the lockdowns.

[@amanplayz518]

Love the fall of Utd ha ha Liverpool are the greatest YNWa

[@fearlessformidableferociou8623]

@@chriser555 ...and during lockdown, clubs were still active in the transfer market

[@ja7419]

"the previous manager" someone's obsessed, and he did better than Rangnick

[@desertman1962]

Look to the pitch - if it was legal to take a players salary away unless they put a solid shift in then only DeGea would take home a salary.

[@Akinwalesegun]

if they take their salary then theirs no incentive for them to play neither

[@mika-eelkhan15]

And CR7

[@dondamon4669]

He’s terrible!! He can’t even pass the ball ! Just another player who needs to go! Useless! Lost us so many points!!

[@stevenicol1]

When that donkey in goal is your best player you know you're in trouble.

[@bensurgenor5355]

As a Liverpool fan I completely disagree with Simon, just because everybody knows how unhappy the United fans are with the glazers does NOT mean it’s not important to protest their opinions, are you just expecting them to suffer in silence?, No, because that wouldn’t be fair and In saying “the glazers want United to win just as much as the fans do” is true but not to the extent of what your implying, the glazers want the money that’s comes with the wins not the points

[@swen1208]

tbh has protesting done anything.....? The best way to protest the Glazers is to stop putting money into the club.

[@lloydwaycott8178]

Ben, what does it matter that the Utd fans are unhappy? The fans don't own the club!!! The owners have spent hundreds of millions on the club! If the fans still continue to buy season tickets and buy shirts, why would the owners care? FFS wake up! Would you prefer a billionaire owner piling his money in just for ego, or a millionaire owner who is a fan of the club? Grow up.

[@bensurgenor5355]

@@lloydwaycott8178 damn bro you got some issues I hope your all good G

[@seanjosephhayes]

Spot on Ben. And to say the Glazers want United to win just as much as the fans do is just plain and simply false anyway. That would mean more money being spent on better quality signings and wages with prize money from competitions not being worth the money invested to get there. So they'll always only authorise the bare minimum they consider necessary to get top 4 and CL income but not enough to compete. Affects their leeching capabilities too much. Amazing that Jordan can't see that, truly.

[@anandmorris]

You Sir, are not just a Liverpool fan, but a proper football fan.

[@James-jl4jt]

Spending money on tickets so that they can get to their seats 17 minutes late makes it completely pointless. The Glazers couldn't care less what they do as long as they keep giving them money

[@fearlessformidableferociou8623]

And if i was in the stand and some1 activates flares, i probably would've swung punches

[@jedsithor]

I'm a United fan and honest, watching a few hundred people come into a game late or leave early in a stadium that consistently fills most of its 75,000 seats is pointless. The stadium still looks full. Even a couple of thousand would barely register on camera. If the entire Stretford End stood up and walked out, that would be something but the people organising these protests seem to just talk amongst themselves and then expect everyone else to follow. It's very disorganised. Plus, last season the fans managed to get the biggest game in English football called off. That's about as big a protest as you can get. People can argue about the merits of breaking the law by getting into Old Trafford and on to the pitch but there's no arguing the fact that it made world wide headlines. In comparison, staging a walkout where only a few people take part is tame.

[@fearlessformidableferociou8623]

@@jedsithor ...and those 'freedom fighters' who broke into Hype & Hopefield, a.k.a OT is still playing in the National Correctional Services League, should the Glazer Out faction not maybe organize a protest at Strangeways to get Dave the bricky from Salford, Ben the plumber from Oldham, Kyle the druggie from Stockport and Lee Ann the wannabe gymnast from Wigan, who mistook the OT crossbar for gymnast bars out of prison ?

[@peterbarlow3084]

Gary Neville went all condescending to Souness about the Glaziers taking money out of the club, and so downplaying the billion(s) spent on transfers and wages. Leaving me constantly irritated to say Simon is right (again).

[@danieljoseph369]

They didn't spend enough under Sir Alex leaving a side of under par academy players and retiring legends. The people employed by the Glaziers have got away with spending the money incorrectly

[@sopronunciareglignocchi7255]

He's not right, because there's multiple points against the Glazers. He's also saying that just because the Glazers aren't going anywhere anytime soon, that now means we're not allowed to voice our angst.

[@Akinwalesegun]

@S. the business isnt falling they just not successful in certain aspect (i.e winning trophies)

[@juliolleshi751]

There's no arguing the money spent on some bad recruitment over the last 10 years but none of that billion has come out of the pockets of the Glazers. Its come out of money generated by the club, or money soon to be generated by the club.

[@peterbarlow3084]

@S. How about . . . 21st September 2021, sales of Ronaldo shirts hit 187M since his return. Payed a few players wages.

[@brosgee4529]

Simon we protested before and after they bought the club, we protested in 2010 after we've had won a double in 2009/2010. They've never spent their money on the club, but the club profits we used, the structure of the club, the wage bill for under performing players, the position in the club, it's all down to their mismanagement and ownership of the club. The training ground, the stadium, we still owe about £600m in debt, £200m+ in transfer debt.

[@lloydwaycott8178]

Answer me this honestly Gee, if they brought in Klopp or Pep, with these same players, do you think your team would improve, and do you think any of the players would get away with recent performances?

[@Dannyboyefc]

They give a manager £80 million to Spend on Maguire, should be looking at who’s making these decisions

[@Dannyboyefc]

@S. they have won 19 trophies since the glazers took over in 2005 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@Dannyboyefc]

@S. he’s also been there since 2005 🤣

[@ogunrombiraphealaa647]

@S. Good question... bcos Woodward is Delivering and meeting expectations in terms of Profit anually. Would you sack someone who makes profit. And on footballing aspect, If Woodward is to be sacked, so also is Sir alex ferguson, bcos He's the major decisions makes in the board of directors, whom woodward listens to often times. The glazers provides funds to woodward, how that funds is managed lies with woodward and his board of directors. You can't fault the glazers for that... If United had been successful in signing and performance, the glazers will be a darling to united fans. Sheikh Mansoor barely comes to the Etihad, In 15 years, He's never been to England more than 3 times, but City fans love him. The hate the glazers gets is caused by the failure of the Ceo and the board. Firing woodward won't change anything, All woodward had to do is absolve every Ferguson old management and ideas, and go for an entire crew of modern coaches, the same way City hired Pep and his crew of directors, Txiki for scouting,Deals negotiating & signing and Soriano For networking, Branding and the brain behind City purchase of smaller clubs in Australia,japan,spain, Uruguay,India and USA. Liverpool went for Kloop and his entire Crew. Elite coaches comes in with every spaces in management taken over. Ferguson have no reason being at old trafford making decisions unless sitting in director box watching matches weekends. The Glazers have released 1.5billion into signing,that money was the same money that Pep and his crew have used in turning City into a powerhouse. Newcastle have not even spent 1 bilion, they've started playing well. The glazers are not the fault here, Its the board who have created an environment where players can't thrive and players who have no spirit of fighting,but eager ti collect their pay cheque. United would have gone a positive direction,if pep had succeeded Ferguson. He created an environment where all part of the club is running in sync.. He did it at Barcelona,Did it at bayern, Hes done it at city. The coaches who took over from Guadiola enjoyed the squad he Assemble, At barcelona, Bayern,now at city, If Guadiola leaves today,City have a squad that can still play together for the next 5 years.

[@ogunrombiraphealaa647]

@S. You are a moron, There is An administrative board and a ceremonial owner. At City Sheikh mansour is the Ceremonial owner, His only function is to provide release of funds and Listen to Yearly evaluation of performance of the club as a business entity. The administrative Functions lies with The CEO, Khaldoon al Mubarak, the the operative function lies with Pep, the coach, txiki, the Deal signing and player management duty, then Soriano focus on City as a brand, marchandizing and Marketability. I'll lecture you on football business. 98% of Football billionaires are not actively involved in the administrative running of the club... thats why must clubs have Ceo or Football administrator. Glazers are like sheikh, they have no times making decisions. All they are about is performance evaluation and profit margins. The glazers taking money out of the club isn't a direct problem for the club, Its could be a problem for the Next buyers or suitors who Wants to buy. But evidently, 1.5b have been invested into the football club, either its clubs money or not, Who is accountable for how poor the team is. that's not the glazers., Pogba is getting paid weekly without issues, So why is he playing badly. If you can answer that question objectively, then glazer out won't come out your mouth.

[@ogunrombiraphealaa647]

@S. Good question mate!!! Woodward does not entirely deserve to be sacked but the coaches who mismanaged the funds should. You can only sack woodward if he embezzled the money. Every signings woodward made at the initial were good signings, You wanna tell me, Depay, Schweinstiger, sneijderlin, Fred, Di maria, Lukaku, fellani,Herriera, Blind, Ibra, Pogba , Sanchez, Matic, Bailey, Lindelof, Martial, Sanchez, Bailey, Sancho, Varana, Maguire, Ronaldo. this were all good signings, The coaches who coached them and the players themselves are to provide answers why their Locker room is disjointed and performance poor. Woodward is not known for embezzling money, He made signings that was good enough only to be Made worse by the coach. Woodward is not directly responsible for this players performance, thats the coach. Are we to say woodward hired the wrong crew who had Ferguson as its Main decision maker?? The only issue i have with woodward was not absolving every ferguson Management and ideas, and following through with expertise, Especially A Negotiator on signings and Contract, rather than Class of 93 bullshit which was Created by Ferguson himself. He was also poor in negotiations, So also is Ferguson. But in signins, A Ceo that can deliver Sanchez, ronaldo, Sancho and dimaria in their prime is a competent CEO. Those teams are more then qualified to win the champions Leagues. Mourinho signed pogba and Fred, only to end up Using an academy player mctominay... Does that have to do with Woodward who provided Pogba??

[@AR-rg2en]

Simon Jordan is right here especially about Abramovich

[@boubacarbah1937]

The biggest problem under the glazers is not spending money, it is how the money is being spent. United these days only signs players based shirt sells and brands rather than player profile to suit a specific system

[@jozz9989]

How the money is being spent? You mean on all of those players utd fans wanted and overhyped?

[@develsalpuket3314]

Is it recruitment the only problem? Or Get rid of Glazers no matter what ?

[@lezzsebothoma]

You seem to know nothing about United. The problem at United is that they should be spending more than they are.

[@xR97x]

The thing I don’t get is these walk out protests. You pay all that money into the Glazers pockets to go to the game and leave mid game 😂😂

[@fearlessformidableferociou8623]

A bit silly inni'

[@TheVoltaire1]

😂😂😂

[@frederickdavidson270]

Fans do have the habit of overestimating their power at financially strong clubs like United. Look at City, they have anywhere from 8 to 17 fans turn up to a homegame and they're quite possibly the best team in world football. United, like Arsenal, turn over enough money both at home and abroad that the Glazers don't need to worry about a loyal section of fans.

[@garycroft4960]

What you on about you .

[@garycroft4960]

17 to 18 fans , you're probably not even from Manchester.

[@BR-tf7jd]

It must really upset you that City sell out every week...haha!!!.

[@00ivatsa]

So how did Liverpool fans force out their previous owners Hicks and Gillet?

[@Jay-wm2im]

50+ thousand every week at City 👍🏼

[@bobricks9380]

Man Utd fans act like they are entitled to success, it’s amazing.

[@wg3063]

I agree and I am a Utd fan since the 80s, we were pants then ( cup team ) at best. Now we are back, where we were then .

[@karikarisworld2693]

Not a Jordan fan but like all the media he is anti arsenal but he's right. Why do fans attend to protest. Its simple DONT BUY SHIRTS DONT GO TO THE GAMES DONT WATCH THE GAMES

[@Big_Fraze]

Because United are too big a club for that to work. If 75,000 decide to boycott games there will be another 75,000 waiting to buy tickets. That would work at Arsenal but not United.

[@00ivatsa]

The whole premise of this conversation is "don't question authority and accept the little you are given, because they may take even that away and destroy you". People in power love it when the lower classes accept that they can't do anything to change their destiny.

[@IrishFrank22]

Oh give over. You buy your own club and you can decide if you want to take money out of your business or not. Honestly bums like you always think you're entitled to something.

[@Big_Fraze]

@@IrishFrank22 🔔🔚

[@IrishFrank22]

@@Big_Fraze Another bum on welfare, hello there poor person 👋🏻

[@Big_Fraze]

@@IrishFrank22 With a name like Francis the man of the house definitely touched you 😆

[@IrishFrank22]

@@Big_Fraze ok ill admit the man that has been touching me is your father. He has been meaning to come out with for some time 🤣

[@_7.8.6]

They should be careful about what they wish for

[@00ivatsa]

Like scousers did with Hicks and Gillet?

[@bdshock9993]

I like Simon I do but to say “fans are getting ahead of themselves” for voicing their opinion is wrong. Fans are the lifeblood of a club. Without them they’re nothing. If fans want to protest against their owners for a decade of poor decisions leading to their massive fall of grace. Then more power to them.

[@larrygerry985]

You are false. Fans follow a business not a "club". If you want to follow club football watch a team from the lower league. If you follow a Premier league club, you are not a fan but a cost centre

[@leemcr1894]

Hi Mr BD Shock, I'm a fan (Mancunian Man City fan of 40+yrs) So I agree with you, to a point! It's absolutely essential that the fan's of the club's, are able to protest and to be heard and listened to. However its also important how they go about it? It must be done non violently and meet other criteria etc etc etc. Cheers my friend

[@jamesmcmahon3461]

You don't seem to understand.. he isn't saying they're getting ahead of themselves for voicing their opinion he is saying they are getting ahead of themselves to think them protesting can or should make an owner sell a club.

[@yusufabdulquadri7414]

@@jamesmcmahon3461 well it could if the fans start boycotting the club.

[@fakunlemorakinyo7138]

@@yusufabdulquadri7414 better way to boycott? Bring a buyer and they'll be out. Until then, fans shouting does nothing

[@Batemann1980]

Owner backs fellow owners shocker!

[@ziudra91]

United fans are so entitled. Over the past 10 years they've consistently been among the top European spenders yet they cry every year over lack of investment.

[@stevendonovan7564]

Yes we do. They throw money into crap players year after year. Old Trafford is rotting away, carrington is now a mediocre training ground which they haven’t touched since owning the club, the womens team have shocking facilities and their scattergun approach to managers is why we are in this mess. You don’t have a clue about what they do and it’s no surprise that every journalist who does, describes them as a cancer to the sport

[@ziudra91]

@@stevendonovan7564 owners don't pick the players

[@00ivatsa]

Do you know how Ed Woodward got a job at Manchester United, along with the rest of his staff?

[@stevendonovan7564]

@@ziudra91 the owners pick the people in charge of recruitment and they never even sacked Woodward. He resigned. As did Judge. They were the main men in charge since 2014 of our transfers. I will give them some credit in that Murtough, Fletcher and Rangnick seems to be a somewhat competent recruitment team now but it only took them 7 years to make a change

[@Y19-n4t]

And nothing that we spend was invested it's all the club's money Glazers haven't spent a cent

[@J.K.M.A]

Simon is right when it all comes down to it.

[@00ivatsa]

Mr. Jordan seems to have a personal problem with Manchester United supporters. It seems Mr. Jordan believes that only the powerful can make decisions that affect whole communities, whereas ordinary "peons" should take the lashings on their backs with dignity.

[@IrishFrank22]

The glazers own United, get over it.

[@EllandRoar84]

So what do you propose? That the fans make billion pound decisions instead of owners? 😂😂😂😂

[@jamesip1671]

welcome to the real world buddy

[@BillyPhilipRwoth]

Yeah. He has a personal problem with all the millions of United supporters around the world, of which he knows each and everyone quite personally!🙄

[@soha7271]

It’s common now seeing this kind of protests everyday, and everywhere in the world!

[@Villain1874]

Not a Manchester United fan - Nothing will happen at United until the owners declare their intent to sell which will not happen unless the United fans can force the issue with protests and boycotts. Once the owners declare their intent to sell individuals and or companies/countries will come out of the woodwork - look at Chelsea

[@MAC_ABC]

Exactly. One thing is for certain… that nothing is for certain. Buying tickets & spending money on memberships & then going late to a game isn’t gonna achieve anything. People, those who are passionate about it, need to stop giving them money. That’ll hurt them… embarrass them… that in turn will hurt them more. Only way they’ll ever think about selling.

[@danieljoseph369]

They're doing a full revamp of the scouts, directors and playing staff. They've invested heavily in the playing squad since Sir Alex's departure so spending was only an issue before Sir Alex left when the debts & interest payments were higher.

[@hulk8384]

@@danieljoseph369 they may as well have chucked that money on the bonfire

[@justemeka]

A change of ownership doesn't guarantee success. The fans need to pressurize the Glaziers for success

[@danieljoseph369]

@@hulk8384 yes they've employed the wrong people to spend it

[@dermotkelly6946]

Danny spot on , young fans don’t know how bad these players have been or what the players motive is 🤟

[@tonylawlor8833]

Danny was right, it was supposed to be the last 17 mins of the game @ 73 mins and as it turned out only a small number of supporters walked out. Jordan was wrong.

[@vikingfrog7204]

United players are going to do a lap of honour after the game. I remember when klopp came and got our players to applaud the fans and United supporters laughed at him galvanising fans and players. How the mighty have fallen.

[@redskunk9825]

Didn't happen

[@jamesdeegee4297]

Simon was spot on!!!!

[@AdilKhan-mw5yx]

I think Simon missing the point of cause and effect, the only reason they are changing the structure is because of the fan unrest. If the fans stop the protest, the glazers will just rest on there laurels and continue this idiotic direction in running a football club they've done for the past 10 years. We've been flailing around for years yet they only think now to axe the individuals that are not capable of working in the football operations of the club, this should've been done since day 1. SO MAY THE PROTEST CONTINUE, ONLY THEN WILL SEE REAL CHANGE!!!!

[@peopletalkuttergarbage]

You REALLY don't understand how business works.... May the fans continue and only then will we see real change? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@AdilKhan-mw5yx]

@@peopletalkuttergarbage good business requires us making poor footballing decisions, the likes of city and Chelsea, who we can financially compete with, have taken a competent approach to making football and decisions has resulted in them creating greater financial gain, utds fan base is significantly bigger, if we were run like them we would be making exponential amounts of profit. And not to mention liverpool whose model should be a guideline to all clubs. Most will say klopp, but you have to respect the club for having the foresight and giving him the tools to succeed

[@DR3ADER1]

Then STOP GOING TO GAMES, STOP BUYING THE SHIRTS, STOP BUYING THE SEASON TICKETS AND STOP WATCHING THE GAMES! It's not that hard. All of those morons virtue-signalling in the stadium paid at least £50 to get in. Which only equals more money for the Glazers.

[@garycroft4960]

@@AdilKhan-mw5yx no you can't compete with City .

[@jefflinton]

Man U are a spent force

[@neilshaw3055]

Can we take a moment to appreciate harry Maguire’s season

[@steevobarker581]

🤣🤣👍

[@dondamon4669]

A rock! Was supposed to start that with a C!

[@fearlessformidableferociou8623]

I don't see any reason why Maguire should not be the most transferred in player in FPL, i mean he's an asset you simply can't afford to miss...i already hv him in my FUT

[@dannymilsom1754]

11111

[@kameelsabri2382]

What he's done at united as made him a legend amongst Liverpool fans.

[@lfcspectre4335]

This is what happens, when you listen to people like Gary Neville on a daily basis about The Glazers ownership. Why don't these people look up Gary Neville business & Utd Class 92 ownership at Salford City 50% ownership & other 50% is own by ranked 10th richest man from Singapore Peter Lim. Paying over odds transfer fees & wages for a League 2 club.

[@CharlieWaffelsTennis]

Remember Hicks & Gillet? Let’s starts there instead.

[@sib1930]

@@CharlieWaffelsTennis Worst owners ever

[@redboyjan]

Quite right. Glazers doing a great job hahaha

[@danieljoseph369]

Billion in interest payments to the bank

[@boreilly82]

The Glazers don't 'give' any money to United. FFS. United funds United. The Glazers have not put a single penny of their own money in to the club. Not a penny.

[@danieljoseph369]

They've taken out over a billion in interest payments alone

[@fearlessformidableferociou8623]

Uhm...it looks like you're imagining some sort of a split ownership / fund pool here, there's only 1 set of owners that's why they control all the money

[@boreilly82]

@@fearlessformidableferociou8623 No mate, I'm not imagining that. I'm imagining some sort of capital investment by the owners of the club. Not a radical thought.

[@fearlessformidableferociou8623]

@@boreilly82 ...but i also see you mention...'the Glazers' own money'...does it matter where the money comes from ?...the only thing any supporter can be corncerned with is...did i pay for a ticket, and did i get a product in return, i.e a football match / entertainment...remember there's no guarantee the result will go your way...the clubs finances is not really the fans' concern, and remember every person that decides to support a football club, does so out of his / her own free will, so if things don't go your way, with all due respect...move

[@sammyboyjnr5520]

Winning, yes....losing, you don't wanna do that

[@hss4184]

Another day, Another dollar, Another point proved by an epic rant.

[@007feck]

Love listening to this guy Simon always presents a logical point of view

[@premiersportingkc3443]

"Incredibly wealthy man doesn't like normal people protesting against other incredibly wealthy men" What a shocker

[@TB-bh8tj]

A man with common sense speaks, little boy doesn't understand.

[@pjr7661]

Pretty sure he said, let them do it and also bring a solution.. seems fair! The fans want a billionaire to roll up and spend all his money to keep these fans happy without ever taking a profit because apparently taking money out of United is against the way of what the united fans accept, good luck with that..

[@jimsim8736]

If you think this is a class issue you’re not very bright and not paying attention.

[@00ivatsa]

@@pjr7661 You know United and only 1 other PL club give out such big dividends and waste so much money on loan interest, right?

[@Big_Fraze]

@@TB-bh8tj Calling someone a little boy whilst subscribing to gaming channels 🤣🤣 oh the irony.

[@paulalba9244]

I get Simon point and yes if there's success there won't be this much outcry but the fact is there isn't and that's why there's outcry. The fans can get the glazers out but it's gotta be a huge revolution. You gotta make sure you're ready

[@develsalpuket3314]

Is it the no trophies or the glazers themselves ?

[@shakilsati2440]

In one line Simon Jordon = Anti LFC that's what everyone should remember not to mention he recently said himself he hates Klopp

[@kieranmccarthy6072]

Grow up mate

[@alancassell566]

In april 1986 liverpool echo copy... The trouble with man utd is... They think they have a divine right to win trophies.. No one has a divine right to win anything..

[@sib1930]

Pundits in the 90s were saying Liverpool should always be the top team. Don't worry give it another couple of years and they'll get used to mediocrity

[@alancassell566]

@@sib1930 2022 - 32 klopp v guardiola head - to - head

[@seansean3481]

Fans are only happy when their club is winning cups, but not every club can win, in fact v few do. So based on this no lose scenario, fans love to take the morale high ground and protest like these man u fans - when in reality they have zero at stake (financially or otherwise). If they are real fans they will cont to attend & support their club winning or losing - if not then go follow another sport. At the elite level this is professional sport involving millions & millions, nothing to do with sentiment.

[@chd1694]

I’m tired of the protests also.

[@markchandler5095]

5 PL Titles under the Glazers, 15 Trophies all together

[@fearlessformidableferociou8623]

...and managers hired and fired with golden handshakes at the fans' request

[@emilfrederiksen.1622]

Because of Fergie the Glazers has nothing to do with Fergies greatness.

[@bernardsqaudbattleedition4997]

simon is the one getting ahead of himself. wow.

[@SGB-hq4dk]

It’s a public enterprise. The company will work differently than venture capital stage private equity structured clubs such as Chelsea and Man City. The dividend distribution is in-line with the industry average and the Glazers have paid in additional capital of more than 80 million per annum since June 2013. To the point of club management. The club has appointed a variety of top class managers & bought many quality players. They’ve gone commercial and also non-commercial. For some reason they haven’t been better than other big teams. But guess what, that’s life - sometimes you don’t get out what you put in.

[@AJ-xv7oh]

Glazers out, why? They've pumped billions into the club. It's the players who aren't performing.

[@drewellis95]

In a ideal world the Glazers would be gone but it won't happen unless someone comes up with whatever Man United as a club is worth but We got the Manager we wanted there seems to be restructuring going on at the club I hope our fanbase has patience regarding the lap of honor feel sorry for Ronaldo, De Gea and Elanga who has shown up certain senior players in our team regarding effort

[@3chords490]

The moment fans stop expressing their discontent at something that is fundamentally wrong at United then it stops being a true football club. Without the fans football is nothing. Simon is right to say that football is big business , but he’s forgotten something. Football only became big business because of the fans. He’s got it upside down.

[@curtissettles2641]

it was a business before there were fans. somebody paid the players to play, then the fans heard about the club and came to watch. there would not be fans, if there is no club. how many empty stadiums do you go sit in for 90 minutes?

[@3chords490]

@@curtissettles2641 What garbage. Look into the history of football.

[@curtissettles2641]

@@3chords490 why would thete be fans if thete is no club? duh

[@jbg48]

Unless fans boycott and picket Old Trafford, hitting the Glazers were it hurts, nothing will change. They won't and nothing will.

[@fearlessformidableferociou8623]

@S. i'll hv more sympathy for people protesting against animal rights abuses than a group of silly, confused, delusional protesters, a few hooligans amongst them also, 10 'freedom fighters' from the Liverpool protests still playing in the National Correctional Services League

[@alfonsodavidson6549]

Let the bankers operating banking decisions when it comes to the test. While hiring footballing people to run the footballing aspect of the club

[@RezaKhan2024]

Simon has no idea about how the Glazers have wasted away the club fortune by mismanagement in last 10 years. We have the the right to protest.

[@samroberts6697]

Spoilt fans who don’t know how to handle being average is what it is, let’s have it right how many would be protesting if they were in the title race and still in the champions league?

[@Big_Fraze]

Majority would still be protesting. They protested when the glazers took over and have continued to do it ever since. You clearly have no clue what you are talking about.

[@samroberts6697]

@@Big_Fraze yeah course mate just a coincidence you decline and the protests go up…..as I said…..SPOILT

[@Big_Fraze]

@@samroberts6697 🔔🔚

[@samroberts6697]

@@Big_Fraze 😘😘😘

[@jamzmusic2408]

Simon Bangladesh loves u we watch from Dhaka Capital you make sense

[@welshhibby]

Simon is bang on the money here......top clobber...top banter...top geezer

[@adeosinowo3197]

Simon says some real world truths but his words will always be seen as shrouded in his unassailable bitterness from his time as Palace owner!

[@tomjenkins1989]

100% correct. I think he makes great points and is good to listen to, a very intelligent man… but he does come accross as so bitter.

[@dylanrobinson6960]

I recall the green and yellow scarves even in fergies last prem winning season 🤔

[@dermotkelly6946]

Danny spot on again about players 👍

[@guy884]

Absolutely love Simon.

[@glenntaylor9144]

If I brought at Porsche I wouldn’t expect a Porsche enthusiast to tell me what petrol to use to make my car run better. The glazers have no duty to do anything with the club that they don’t want to do despite being asked by the fans.

[@CharlieWaffelsTennis]

If they had bought the club with their own money 💰 you may have point.

[@glenntaylor9144]

@@CharlieWaffelsTennis whether they used their own money or not, they own the club. If you buy your house with a mortgage it doesn’t mean your neighbour can for you to do the driveway, garden, soffits and fascia etc. It’s the same principle. In fact I hope they stay as it’s quality watching Man U fans go through tough times

[@jonfernandezsoulfulhouse2616]

spot on... add Levy, Joe Lewis and ENIC to that list

[@davidstanton4716]

Man U fans seem to think they have a god given right to be No1 all the time. They've spent plenty cash since the Glazers came in, they've just suffered because they change managers and have awful recruitment policies. It happens, their time will come again.

[@00ivatsa]

It won't, we are decades behind our rivals and in the current era, it's not a given that a fallen giant can come back up. Liverpool were lucky with Klopp, otherwise they would have never come back in the manner they did. But they also managed to get rid of their previous toxic owners Hicks and Gillet. I wonder why nobody seems to remember that and talk about it when the Glazers topic is being debated.

[@Big_Fraze]

We've spent money because we earn money. We spend what we make. We ain't City, Chelsea or Newcastle they are lottery winners.

[@danieljoseph369]

They didn't spend enough under Sir Alex leaving a side full of retiring legends and below par academy prospects

[@davidstanton4716]

@@Big_Fraze pahahaha. You lot started the whole bloody trend of daft wages and fees etc. So wind your neck in. Nobody mentioned what you spend anyways you tit. The point was that you don't deserve to be on top just because you used to be the best team.

[@rohithraman6488]

@@Big_Fraze Chelsea these days spend what they make to be honest

[@me4374]

Simon completely missing the point once again!

[@isaiahgere9283]

There is no point, man utd fans are just being stupid. The only thing the glazers have done wrong is not putting football people in charge of the football side of the company. YES man utd is a company. Grow up

[@me4374]

@@isaiahgere9283 you clearly know nothing about football!!

[@isaiahgere9283]

@@me4374 I know faaaaaaaaaar more than you. 100% sure

[@isaiahgere9283]

@@me4374 you people bring sentiment into business. I assure you if you are given man utd to to run for a day, the whole club will crumble. How do you think man city, Liverpool, psg, Real Madrid and Bayern are really run? You are the one who knows nothing about football

[@me4374]

@@isaiahgere9283 good guess but you’re 100% wrong….aaaaaaagain!! 🤣🤣

[@fergusalexson1557]

Remember people protested in 2010. Five years into the Glazers and Utd were STILL winning. Don't make out the protests are only since Fergie left.

[@phuston087]

Point hes making is that protests have ramped up considerably due to lack of success

[@adonisblake4905]

Bark at the moon. That's funny 😁

[@davidcaldwell6627]

This Jordan effort, took Crystal Palace in to administration, he has a small memeory, just like his mobile phones. Hes saying Utd Fans need to pipe down as Utd faans think they are so important, and the Glaziers are doing a great job. Mr Gillette and Hicks nearly took Liverpool in to the darkness, our fans protested and finally they where slung out. How dare this guy take a pop at anyone, hes one of these guys you meet ever 10 years or so on a night out and they yap,yap, yap in disagreement with what ever the group of people are discusing, so everyone pisses off, not before of course placing a mirror infront of him, so he can talk to himself and agree back to himself, just like a budgie in a cage, tweet tweet tweet tweet tweet tweet until finally it falls asleep. If any club thinks it can survive with no fans, then lets see one in action please

[@00ivatsa]

Nobody ever speaks about Liverpool fans getting rid of Hicks and Gillet when speaking about their resurgence back to the top. I guess it doesn't suit the money men like Jordan and their agenda.

[@ryanwebb5082]

Liverpool and United are completely different situations. Liverpool was on the verge of annihilation whilst United are 'having a bad spell'. The main reason why Hicks and Gillet got turfed out: they were unable to pay back loans and used the club as a guarantor against this debt - risking people's livelihoods and presenting a legal case to dissolve their ownership. The valuation of the club was £300m which was saddled with debt. United are worth billions and has nowhere the levels of debt Liverpool had. United are still investing in players whilst Liverpool could barely afford to pay theirs.

[@chriser555]

Remember folks, if you don't like how the owners of the club you love are destroying your club... just shut up and be quiet. Say nothing. Do nothing.

[@fearlessformidableferociou8623]

...or move to another club

[@larrygerry985]

You can protest by following a non league club if you want "community". If you follow a Premier League, you are just following a business like Coke or Pepsi

[@stevendonovan7564]

A lot of us from Manchester don’t have a choice as we come from generations of united fans and any football fan knows you can’t just go and support someone else

[@Big_Fraze]

@@stevendonovan7564 Exactly this Larry guy is stupid. Can't just change teams after years of supporting them.

[@larrygerry985]

@@stevendonovan7564 Football is just a game, it is not important. So don't invest emotional capital in a past time, enjoy it for what it is

[@stevendonovan7564]

@@larrygerry985 for a lot of people football is a lot more than a game. Don’t take the moral high ground because it’s just a game for you

[@fearlessformidableferociou8623]

@@stevendonovan7564 why can't you support another club ?...remember every person that decides to support a club, does so out of his / her own free will, so if things don't go your way... *MOOOVVEE* .

[@joshbithell2449]

2004 the protests started before they brought the club, winning the Champions League they still continued protests and when Manchester united won a recorded number for title's they still had protests. the fact they brought the club out with debt without putting their own money into it is criminal and what's wrong with society today. they have never put thier own money into the club they have pay the interest off the debt they created and taken the majorities for themselves, the 100s of million on transfers and wages aren't real investment the stadium is in decline the training grounds need an updated the womans team dont have changerooms no proper youth stadium. thats where the millions of £££ should be going not to the bank to pay off debt that has taken 10 years long to pay off then it should have.

[@danj87lfc]

The glazers buy everything man u fans ask for but when it goes wrong they blame them just like when they were shouting morinuos name and when it went wrong oh ye glazers out

[@lee84]

Simon is 100% correct, these fans won’t give a crap about who is the owner as long as they are winning.

[@danieljoseph369]

They aren't winning

[@mohamedmoola2003]

The thumbnail though 😂😂😂

[@danieljackson3446]

There's a huge difference between making money out of something you've invested your own money into, and making money out of something you've heaped a ton of debt onto and never paid a single penny for. Any money the Glazer's spend is money the club make, any money invested is money the club makes. It's estimated the Glazers have cost Manchester United £1.1 billion; almost equivalent (1.7) to what Mansour has invested to buy MCFC, their players, facilities and all.

[@Pariah_YT]

Not the brightest bunch are they, what is leaving 15 minutes before full time gonna achieve? They've already paid for their tickets.

[@CharlieWaffelsTennis]

If you don’t understand then this wasn’t for you.

[@fearlessformidableferociou8623]

@@CharlieWaffelsTennis can you please make us understand

[@tris421]

The Glazers stopped United from rebuilding the team after selling Ronaldo. Thinking they could bank on Fergie forever and replacing Ronaldo and Tevez with Valencia and Owen. Lining up Smalling and Jones to replace Rio and Vidic. from 2005-2014 they never allowed United to spend any serious money on rebuilding the team and have been playing catch up ever since. United since then have been allowed to spend 1 Bil of their own money but the difference was the fundamentals of the squad had never been never there. They only allowed United to spend the minimum amount required to keep United relevant during this time-proven by the fact they spent more money when United were out of the UCL rather than in it. Of course, they could have spent the money better but this responsibility also falls on the Glazers in appointing people at the club there to protect them rather than to build a coherent football team. That said I do finally think United are starting to change their structure and put things in a better direction. These things will take time, however, the proof will be in the pudding this summer with how much of their own money the Glazers allow United to invest in rebuilding the squad.

[@martinayre2710]

Minimum amount to keep them relevant spent more then man city and psg yes bad infrastructure money spent on on paper great players it hasn't worked but not through lack of spending on players

[@danieljoseph369]

@@martinayre2710 since Sir Alex not before, leaving a side of retiring legends and below par academy prospects

[@ogunrombiraphealaa647]

Thats where you are wrong, How can a american Billionaire who knows nothing about football sign players, Thats the job of the CEO and board members which Ferguson is a major decision maker. Its like saying its Sheikh mansour, owner of man City that signed Debryn, Silva, Rodri and the likes, thats down to pep and his team, which includes Txiki and soriano. khaldoon al Mubarak being the CEO who hired them all, The owner Mansoor job is to provide funds and fiscal year, listen to the turnover, progress and development. Get your facts right, mate!!!

[@tris421]

@@ogunrombiraphealaa647 The Glazers did not release funds for Ferguson to rebuild the squad even though we sold Ronaldo for a world record fee. Ferguson then disguised this with a bunch of nonsense about no value in the market at the same time as City were slowly laying the foundations for the team that eventually Pep would take over (signing players like Yaya, Silva and Aguero). I never said the Glazers should have identified players. But the period between 2008-2014 was when the real damage was done. This is also why the major Glazers out protests started in 2010.

[@tris421]

@@martinayre2710 United started spending money on players after Rio, Vidic, Evra, Giggs, Scholes etc had all left and while Rooney and Carrick were past it. Of course, they could have spent the money better but there was no football structure in place to do this. And you can't say Liverpool were doing any better before Klopp came in they had wasted 150 million on players like Lambert and Ballotelli. So yes, United needed a football structure, but at the same time City were spending money after already being on top. United were playing catch up. The time for United to rebuild was 2010. The only high profile signing the Glazers made after Ronaldo left was RVP and this was only because they were able to get him on the cheap.

[@timinruislip6863]

How about this one Simon, since the glazers have taken over united have spent more money on the debt that the glazers saddled us with, than transfers. Answer that one please Simon (big fan of yours btw)

[@johncrawford610]

With regard to the lap of honour the players cannot win with the media. If they do it we get the comments Jim White just made. If they do not then they will be slagged off for breaking a tradition and not doing it.

[@drinkingwithmac4451]

I like Simon , but he definitely has a agenda against fans.

[@larrygerry985]

He is talking objective truth, football is a business. It costs billions of GBPs and players costs 100k's per week. People need to grow up and understand what they are supporting

[@johnatkinson7126]

@@larrygerry985 man utds wage bill alone for 2021 was £221 million pounds that money has to be found before they make any profit they make a bout £4million pounds per match day that's just over a third of the wage bill they bought varanasi for a total of about £110 million if man utd relied on gate receipts alone they would be £250 million down they're lucky they have such good sponsorship or they would be gone

[@johnatkinson7126]

varane and sancho it should have read

[@connorjones9314]

If want to make a statement don't part with your money and don't attend matches for a quite a bit of time lack of attendance revenue hits clubs hard

[@fearlessformidableferociou8623]

Ain't gna work, Hype & Hopefield will never be empty

[@anurag1893]

He's 100 percent right football business side has nothing to do with what you do on field they are business people they are allowed to make money and profit if someone says they have not invested they have invested close to what man city have invested bought two of the greatest managers in Jose Mourinho who was shown the exit because of these new age player divas and you can still say scouting might not be right of some players but if Pogba is not world class signing then who is Jose was looking for Maguire Lukaku i don't know what's wrong in these signings they are good quality players i agree some players scouting was not right and yes they have not invested back in the stadium but don't tell me they have not invested in this club huge amounts

[@David-xy2ly]

Can’t wait to see the Lap of honour, as Liverpool fan it will be spectacular. Better than there football and if Brentford do a job it will be even better lol 😂

[@fezzy5591]

It'll be a fun sight to watch indeed

[@jamestracey5958]

Fanbase is more dysfunctional than the dressing room fan channels are to blame

[@fearlessformidableferociou8623]

😅😂😅👍🏼

[@justynroberts6431]

Every day Man U content 👍👌

[@petershortland478]

How about if you don't like way club is run don't spend 100+ quid on their shirt, full kit and scarf, 500+season ticket and their MUTV subscription, what's the point in protesting will make zero difference, United where they are won't be able to gain top quality players unless they pay the same wages like De Gea, Sancho, Pogba and Fernandes, please United have to start doing what Leicester started doing when their new owner came buy cheap and work around it

[@fearlessformidableferociou8623]

Buy cheap is exactly what we did...½m quid for Mahrez, sold to City 4 65 mil, 17 mil paid 4 Maguire, sold 2 united 4 80 mil...nice doing business in Manchester 😅😂👍🏼

[@terrymccan5891]

Simon you can't keep on comparing football to business to suit your points and then ignore them when they don't suit. Customers are unhappy or do you expect them to accept this level of service

[@Dhaiziheee]

This wasn't a protest, this was attention seeking. They paid for the tickets, most had new kits, and they didn't even leave at the 73rd minute.

[@LemonSeals]

They couldnt be further from quality content

[@rohithraman6488]

Not a United fan but anyone protesting against the Glazers should just go and buy a plain white shirt, paint it red and decorate it with the Man Utd sponsor and badge instead of going to any clothes shop or the club store to buy a United top to put money into the Glazers' back pocket. Genius plan 10/10. Sorted.

[@emilfrederiksen.1622]

Or buy fake shirts

[@soup8786]

Community assests which football clubs are should have to operate in the best interests of the football side of the business. The glazers do not do this and there should be protections in place to stop a giant business being destroyed.

[@iioreoyziioreogang7972]

if u listen to SJ, he is spot on. Owners are not just going to sell because we want them out n make a loss. Let’s grow up

[@AR-rg2en]

Yeah

[@fearlessformidableferociou8623]

@S. yip, just take it...or *MOOOVVVEEE*

[@jaybricknell5137]

The Glazers are culpable for the performance of Woodward their employee

[@fearlessformidableferociou8623]

Woodward made a lot of money 4 them

[@garycroft4960]

Yes buying all them shirts with Ronaldo on the back ha ha .

[@fearlessformidableferociou8623]

3 month waiting period 4 a CR7 shirt 😂😅😂

[@garycroft4960]

@@fearlessformidableferociou8623 ha ha 😂

[@markchandler5095]

A protest is silly. Step 1, Don't buy season tickets. Step 2, don't buy a ticket to the game. Step 3, don't buy beverages. Step 4, don't buy merchandise. Step 5, if you do go to the game, have the entire stadium walk out after 10 minutes. So, effect their money and they might change things. It will take years to get them out.

[@Stevandoren1003]

Simon is 100% right. The league has turn into a business. I live in America and it has been like this for years. The owner only cares about making money. Winning is icing on the cake.

[@steevobarker581]

Yes but you don't make money unless you win something. Money comes from sponsorship. Who wants to sponsor a loser?

[@Stevandoren1003]

@@steevobarker581 that’s not really true. In the US these owners make money no matter what. The Detroit Loins haven’t won anything since their creation but once the owner decides to sell there will be a line with people ready to throw money at them. The local fan base will buy the jerseys and there will always be the TV money.

[@steevobarker581]

@@Stevandoren1003 aye, but they have kind of maxed the earning potential. Had they won the Superbowl, (I assume they are American Football?) they would be a global brand. How many baseball caps do you see with NY Yankees on around the world? Most that wear them probably don't know who or what they are. It's only because they were/are successful that they become extremely marketable.

[@aldorfc7287]

Start of season we have Ronaldo we are competing, 8ish months later its not worked out - Glazers out!!!!

[@danieljoseph369]

Glaziers out started when they bought the club

[@fearlessformidableferociou8623]

@@danieljoseph369 ...and under their iwnership, united won a string of trophies, which i thought was the whole point

[@danieljoseph369]

@@fearlessformidableferociou8623 they was already winning trophies before them unlike Abramovich (Chelsea) and Mansour (Man City) but then just as the supporters feared/suspected they stopped winning them

[@fearlessformidableferociou8623]

@@danieljoseph369 but since 2005 up to 2017, there's always been a trophy of some sorts

[@danieljoseph369]

@@fearlessformidableferociou8623 the Europa League & League Cup (beating Southampton in the final) are minor trophies and even the FA Cup win was an easy cup run playing Everton and Palace in the semis & final whilst playing defensive football. Competing for major trophies stopped in 2013. The side Sir Alex left was only retiring legends and below standard academy prospects. No other club has been bought with a leveraged takeover that cost the club over a billion in interest payments with hundreds of millions of debt being payed off so even if they were competing supporters would still be disappointed the money was taken out and not spent on the team to make us as good as Peps and Klopps teams.

[@unclebensrice4702]

Uniteds wage bill is so high because United extended players contract to increase the asset value of the club it’s all been proven Matt Judge and Ed Woodward have basically admitted it

[@mcb3167]

I bet many of us wish that our teams would spend over a billion in players lol

[@danieljoseph369]

Bet you wouldn't want to spend a billion in interest payments to the bank though