Simon Jordan vs. Man United Fan: Heated Debate on Club Structure Compared to Man City 🔥👀

Manchester United fan, Paul debates with Simon who is to blame at the club, the structure of the club and why it is weaker than Manchester City's structure.
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[@andreidoanca4262]

When Ten Hag took the job Van Gaal said Man Utd is not a football club...but more of a business. God how right he was

[@newmonkeyforever6391]

100%

[@Garn17]

And ten hag got more power

[@imthecreatorofmyrealitymyf700]

Hes not helping himself with his signing.

[@flemfleming3149]

I remember that but not even sure you could say it’s run like a business. Williams on 65k a week and Sancho on 350k are not the actions of rational business people.

[@deanburns8174]

When ten hag got the job the united fans thought they were getting an elite manager not a p.e teacher

[@skylarutd]

The caller is spot on. We don't have footballing people running our club. Win or loose, glazers still make money while Arnold and murtough are just facilitators in the ruse. Doomed club

[@boxingstraighttalk6599]

The manager is not performing, he's getting sacked it's just a matter of time hopefully. His football is not good enough.

[@jhpfdijtuiweruot]

@@boxingstraighttalk6599

[@Nooberstein123]

@@boxingstraighttalk6599and replace with who?

[@agnesschamatey6138]

@@boxingstraighttalk6599you replace him with another manager and the same cycle over again

[@johnnydao.07]

@@boxingstraighttalk6599 Jose Mourinho came to Inter Milan and won the Champions League straightaway. Are you telling me that he's not good enough for Man United? What about Van Gaal and now Ten Hag? 6 managers are trying their best. Non of them seem to succeed. That means the problem is still there isn't it?

[@MattJ3enning]

Simon Jordan saying “if Ten Hag can’t eclipse Klopp and Pep what are they trying to achieve” you could literally put Klopp or Pep in charge of United and they wouldn’t win the league because the club is rotten. Ridiculous take… And for him to say “do they have the best in class upfront? Do they have an Erling Haaland?” When ole literally wanted to sign Haaland in his second season and the BOARD SAID NO! Ridiculous take…

[@Catalan-gods_NewWorldOrder]

BS !! Give United to Pep or Klopp and they'd win Prem title within 3 seasons

[@itsmeprasad1987]

Pep had a chance to be united manager.. he declined. That should explain a lot

[@Alloyd876]

​@@Catalan-gods_NewWorldOrderand the current manager is only in his second season so your argument is also BS

[@Catalan-gods_NewWorldOrder]

What sort of excuses is this?? They have Højlund, Garnacho and Antony And don't tell me they aren't great players becuz they are. It's just the pressure from that United fanbase

[@MattJ3enning]

@@Catalan-gods_NewWorldOrderHojlund Garnacho and Antony? You think that’s enough for pep and klopp to compete with Haaland, De Bruyne and Salah? Not to mention the non stop conveyer belt of quality city have coming off the bench. United had 3 GK’s on their bench vs Bayern. I’m sure Pep would be happy with that right

[@rcmains4237]

Simon with the L here. Ownership bias coming in strong. City won league with mancini and pellegrini.

[@drep9028]

City won the league with them but didn't dominate the league. City were gradually building up and hit their final form under Pep and they made sure the environment was perfect for Pep to do his best

[@billywilson-wx7ku]

united won lots of trophies with the glazers in charge. why has it changed now? because all the managers have sucked since ferguson, which is simon's point

[@drep9028]

@@billywilson-wx7ku I wouldn't say they sucked. They weren't as good as Fergie or as good as the improved rivals but were expected to be as good. Hence the pressure, lack of support, toxic environment etc etc

[@msfklfl123]

Man City's previous head of youth is at Tottenham now, and he mentioned how City's youth, recruitment system was unstructured under Mancini, and Pep came in to fix the whole system to what it is now.

[@rsamancunian5609]

They way they win the league has changed. They weren't as dominant. They certainly didn't compete in the champions league like they are now.

[@grahamunsworth1195]

All you have to do is look at Newcastle. Mike Ashley absolutely plagued that club with bad recruitment, terrible contract negotiations etc etc. Soon as it was taken over there was an instant uplift across the board, they didn't even spend massive money or get massive names in and look at how they have done, the whole persona of the City has changed for the better. This is exactly what United need, it's the only thing that will make United challenge again

[@jjuukoaulaprince2928]

Bro Dont compare Saudi money and Ashleys money 2 different planets 😅 money salaries

[@HelloMyFriend_]

​@@jjuukoaulaprince2928what Saudi money? They haven't spent big at all

[@thomaspalmer36]

Bro Mike Ashley ran Newcastle on a shoestring. I mean come on, Newcastle in the championship isn't ancient history! Arab money has changed this league!

[@thezyg6311]

@@jjuukoaulaprince2928 Ashley had the wealth on paper to do what the Saudis have done.

[@jackstenner7994]

Did City ever suffer crisis under Mancini and Pellegrini? No. It was good but just not quite good enough. Whereas at United, under 5 managers now, it dissolves into utter crisis. This doesn’t happen at any other top club.

[@baaizeedrahman2326]

Your right he only got 400 million and got rid of ragnick

[@finfog4590]

@@baaizeedrahman2326That man was speaking the truth to the media as was Ronaldo and they got kicked out.

[@drep9028]

City were gradually building something. Creating a positive football culture and then exploded into their final form under Pep which coincided with the departure of Alex Ferguson. The City fanbase was and maybe still is far less entitled and didn't demand dominance even when it was unrealistic. That's likely why things didn't crash and burn under Mancini and Pellegrini

[@BLACKSTA361]

​@@finfog4590lmao ronaldo is the problem still cracks me up😂. I can't feel sorry for United fans either. They believed ten hag and the media and turned their back on both ronaldo and de gea two legends of their club Let them suffer

[@dookula]

Huh? Mancini and Pellegrini won the league

[@AJ-xv7oh]

That second caller was absolutely spot on.

[@garethdavies4540]

No he wasn't. He's basically saying Utd should be doing better than City...who are there or there abouts to being the greatest side the play in the English top flight. They're also the most well financed club in the world during this era they're in. Why should United be competing with them and a highly exceptional Liverpool along with a far more competitive Prem division than in their prime era? Entitled doesn't equal logical

[@ssdabel]

@@garethdavies4540 man, there are several clubs in England apart from City that are better-ran. Liverpool Arsenal, Newcastle, Brighton, are all way better ran as of 2023. And yes, City is the example that should be brought up, because that's the level United should be aspiring to

[@jakenorton8393]

Simon Jordan defending club owners ? Wow I never would've thought that, almost like he was a club owner himself and has a personal bias on the subject..........

[@Akinwalesegun]

fans are hias are need to hear objective opinion, fans change opinions like flies and bold no responsibility to what they say

[@Impostor39890]

At least he knows more about owning a club than you know...the entire United fanbase.

[@Neville-ne5fp]

UTD fans are bias as well when they when the manager is working miracle an when they loose the glazers are crap owners even tho the glazers don’t pick the team the glazers aren’t on the field make bad passes the glazers aren’t on the field conceding penalties but yet the fans blame the glazers for everything that goes on the field an don’t criticize the manager is that biased?

[@jakenorton8393]

@@Neville-ne5fp no it's a recognition of a bigger issue which has been plaguing the club for 20 years , every other fan would do the exact same if it was their club being destroyed

[@jakenorton8393]

@@Impostor39890 true I wouldn't know anything about nearly putting my club into adminstration

[@Mikethamanc]

Nice to hear lots of United fans with Manc accents

[@sebluketravis2438]

*As a Mancunian and United fan of 40+ years, I see it differently, Ten Hag is doing a great job - holistically (hear me out). There are only 3 ways the Glazer's leave... 1: Jassim or INEOS offer 6+ billion (Sterling) ... 2: A sporting capitulation (i.e. finishing bottom 5 or relegation and subsequent huge hit on sponsors, prize money and share price - Glazer's bottom line) or 3: What would happen undoubtedley at this stage if it was Galatasaray, Belgrade or Olympiacos ultras, one of the Glazer's got attacked either mortally or close to and scare away for their own safety. Those are the only ways the Glazer's leave. Ten Hag may help along number 2* .

[@jbg48]

Shame there isn't a Manchester Education Committee - Palm beach chapter...

[@sebluketravis2438]

@@jbg48 elaborate or come to Manchester, Wythenshawe and elaborate?

[@WOOOPdoctorFROGhere]

hahaha what absolutely delusional nonsense.

[@BLACKSTA361]

​@@sebluketravis2438I haven't had a laugh Luke this in a long time. Thanks luke

[@sebluketravis2438]

@@WOOOPdoctorFROGhere ya mam said that last night when I stretched her starfish.

[@nh2577]

This caller spoke nothing but factual logic

[@garethdavies4540]

You think Manchester United, having spent Billions, are comparable to a corner shop?

[@neothe0ne]

A corner shop is better off when compared to a club spending/wasting a billion on players like Pogba, Sancho, Sanchez, Lukaku, Di Maria, Maguire, Mount, Antony, Fellaini, Matic, Fred, Onana etc etc. ALL panic buys or players bought in after being enticed by mega wages. Bottom line is the club wastes money on garbage because the ones in charge choose to waste money on (in their view) marketable players and not players with quality which fit a specific style or team. I’d pick the corner shop. Less headache that way.

[@AOK342]

Everything trickle down from the bottom. Yeh great analogy about Man United

[@ssdabel]

​@garethdavies4540 you know what an analogy is like right? Jesus mate..

[@garethdavies4540]

​@@ssdabel Yes. Why's that, Champ?

[@rowanndlovu15]

These pundits act like they know what happening at the club to try and push their own agendas against Erik when they don't consider the fact that Man City or Liverpool have better owners with a very clear direction in where they want to go. Pep gets everything he wants from the club and he never gets to deal with the drama that comes with Man Utd on and off the pitch.

[@BridgeStamford]

Who you blaming? The tea lady? 😂😂😂 Get a grip. Nobody gives manager full control. It’s their money

[@SCR94]

Jesus Christ. The moment he said about Simon getting on the board. Absolutely clueless 😂😂

[@blueprint1018]

I hate Man United with a passion but this is ridiculous. Two years ago I wanted Arteta gone. We were very poor and finished 8th. Now we are miles better. It takes time to build a team. Given him a year is ridiculous. I dont even like the man's management style but come on ppl !!!!!!

[@Catalan-gods_NewWorldOrder]

That's the problem..The root problem here is that United fanbase.. It's not the Managers, not the countless destroyed players but that rotten deluded spoilt fanbase with their constant pressure, moaning and delusions of thinking United should be winning all the time

[@rufdymond]

99% of Utd fans are in full support of the manager - our problem is with the Glazers we will never be successful with them in charge. Rival fans don’t care, (why should they) but it’s had to get over to people who don’t understand just how badly our club is run….I would say we are by some distance the worst run club in the Premier League.

[@ryacv3cov968]

You lot want arteta gone every time you lose a match

[@ppate8]

Arteta was helped by Edu. Manchester have Arnold a non football man

[@msfklfl123]

Arteta survived only because he won the FA cup, without it he would've been sacked.

[@1Jameskelly]

My wife ran off with the milkman yesterday and I blame the glazers 😂😂😂😂

[@WOOOPdoctorFROGhere]

it's that leaking roof! United would be champions and you'd still be with the missus if only that bluddy Malcolm Glazer FIXED THE ROOF

[@flemfleming3149]

Your wife may need a guide dog if she indeed ran off with a Glazer 😂😂

[@WOOOPdoctorFROGhere]

@@flemfleming3149 I dunno mate, that ginger glazer with the bald head/ponytail combo is pretty fit when compared to most goldfish

[@Chosen1-]

Yh simon I disagree with this. Mancini and Pellegrini were winning trophies, not at the same rate as pep, but still winning them. For godsake, they got sacked and still won the prem. what are utd doing?😂😂

[@drep9028]

Because City were slowly building up to their final form. They made mistakes but learnt from them and then with forward thinking, they went for Pep when he was available and their set up was perfect for him. He didn't smash it in his first season but there was no entitlement pressure and so he flourished. It's the entitlement culture and the knee jerk appointments and big name signings that have Utd bouncing around

[@Chosen1-]

@@drep9028 that’s the problem within utd, it’s beyond frustrating. We’re worried about headlines instead of long term results.

[@jaredjohnson7588]

These conversations are misguided. We know where the real issues at the club are. Give him time. He’s been at the club for one season

[@CraigBotcherby]

Give him time 😅 the blokes spent nearly 500 million and 80 of it on Antony 😳 60 millions on casemiro who is on the decline, he's not good enough and that's from a toon fan

[@chucklam8349]

The second caller has nailed it! 👏👏👏 Simon and Danny are arguing different points.

[@garethdavies4540]

No he didn't. He's basically saying Utd should be doing better than City...who are there or there abouts to being the greatest side the play in the English top flight. They're also the most well financed club in the world during this era they're in. Why should United be competing with them and a highly exceptional Liverpool along with a far more competitive Prem division than in their prime era? Entitled doesn't equal logical.

[@leehenry5764]

Rubbish. City and winning so well is because they have far better recruitment than us and a better manager. Not because they are a bigger club on the worlds stage, which they are not.

[@garethdavies4540]

@@leehenry5764 I can't work out who you're debating with? The point is that the footballing landscape has changed dramatically since United's heyday. On what grounds are they entitled to "best in class" both on and off the field, when there's numerous, very well financed and farrrr less toxic projects out there for any potential player/manager/executive than Man Utd..?

[@silindelosikhosana7064]

​@@garethdavies4540what do you need to have the best in class? Generally speaking. What do you need? United have all the resources to be that, but they're not. The caller is right. You're wrong.

[@garethdavies4540]

@silindelosikhosana7064 proving my point, once again. 🤣 Which of my above comments do you need me to clarify? What is it Utd fans don't get about their current situation, that Jordan also points out repeatedly every week it seems?

[@rodgie84]

Paul sounds like he's having a nervous breakdown over this

[@matthewbryant958]

I watched the game and it was madness at full time when the Utd fans left 😂 there was thousands of Galatasaray fans around old Trafford never seen anything like it

[@iron-man67]

Well you should get use to it once 7-hag remains incharge...

[@matthewmatthew9485]

I was there i spoke to the stewards and there excuse was we don't have enough staff to kick them all out. The problem is they all got Manchester addresses another excuse. The club only cares about money thats the truth. We had two Turkish friends in Galatasray shirts from the get go sitting in United end. Only near the end of the game they got kicked out. Any other club around the world they locals would have filled them in.

[@TheLastAngryMan01]

Because the club sold them the tickets at inflated prices because that is all the Glazers care about: money. Fan safety doesn’t come into it.

[@mcfcok3773]

A massive club like united being replaced by opposition fans in the home end 😂😂

[@johnfulco8313]

If you can't afford to rebuild old trafford and Carrington, you're not fit owners. If you can't be bothered to address the fans EVER, you're not fit owners. If you can't hire proper club leadership, you're not fit owners. If you allow domestic violence to run rampant through the club, you're not fit owners.... but THEY OVER SPEND ON PLAYERS NO ONE ELSE WANTS. AMAZING!!!!

[@y2k42y2k42]

Ten Hag was in advanced negotiations with RB Lipzeg before Utd come in. That's the level Ten Hag is at, Utd is way to big for him.

[@Maax1200]

United is a small club, and thats coming from a United fan. Its not -99 anymore and United is a small club in EVERYTHING but name and fanbase.

[@andrewphippsphillips1455]

Fans of the club for over 35years will admit that Ferguson nearly relegated them twice before they got Hughes back & scraped their way to that FA Cup win in 1990. Im not a supporter but I can tell you now how miserable it is to be bought then abused by a bad owner, which we finally escaped two years ago. You need one manager & stick with the guy, not pull the trigger after a few bad games (we endured a winless start under Bruce until Ashley finally sold us). A good coach needs time, not being sacked after less than a year....

[@trueleo7893]

Did TalkSport delete the "heated debate"?

[@mufcuk8512]

When Simon started talking about city he nearly said more well ran club 😂😂 he knows what's going on at united like everyone

[@msfklfl123]

ofc he was the owner of Crystal Palace for 10 years

[@cryogenixoldskool5803]

Will you please stop going on about Klopp as if he's an Elite Manager, he isn't, Elite Managers win League Titles with the emphasis on the S, Liverpool have won one Title in almost a decade under Klopp, Pep is the only Elite Manager in England

[@stevenandrews3891]

While stats say he only has one league title, his points tallies have been 99, 98 and 97, along with an FA Cup, League Cup and three Champions League finals. Had pep joined Liverpool instead in 2016 (with Sakho, Lovren, Clyne, Moreno, Migs and Origi as regulars) and had the same amount of money, I doubt he would've had that kind of success. Walker cost the same amount (roughly) as Robbo, Tsimikas, Trent, Matip, Gomez and Konate combined (that's our entire defence, minus Virgil). He is elite.

[@helgekarlsen171]

Agree with Simon Jordan. It's Solskjærs foult!!!!!!!

[@andycarmichael6671]

Man Utd is no longer the club it was. They are no longer as Simon would say the poster boys. The best players no longer want to go there. Huge wages on bang average players.

[@cursedchild3639]

The caller is spot on. The club is doomed because of the leeches Glazers. With them in charge it doesn't matter who is in the dug out we will fail. Instead of focusing on the manager we need to put all our efforts into getting rid of these owners. Ten Hag is the right guy.

[@mjimlee]

Nothing to do with Glazers You just not good enough at football and can't compete

[@cursedchild3639]

@@mjimlee it's everything to do with the Glazers. They own the club the buck lies with them. They've ruined us top to bottom.

[@msfklfl123]

Just look at Carrington, even Manchester United Legends are sending their boys to City's Academy

[@scottbrierley6183]

Yep its time sam hammam made a bid

[@jonhayes7322]

I agree with the caller - as an Aston Villa supporter, we now have joined up thinking behind the scenes, but with separation between football and business departments.

[@msfklfl123]

City's academy is way better than Carrington for one. Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal, even Tottenham have better youth facilities. When did Glazers invest out of their own pocket ?

[@bjohn6910]

These players have gotten multiple managers the sack & had Ragnick running back to Austria the first chance he got. There are no standards from top to bottom & mediocrity everywhere I look in the club. Only thing that will save Man Utd is new ownership with a massive culture shift that HAS to come from the top.

[@Discombobulate453]

Rangnick wanted to stay and be a consultant. Ten Hag didn’t want him because Ten Hag was in denial about how much work was to be done and the fact that Rangnick was right. Club need open heart surgery. At least know what you’re talking about

[@CANOES-in3do]

Man utd fan with a cockny accent., what a supprise

[@deco2132]

Danny Murphy 'they're not really losing against what we'd call 'top' teams' - Arsenal, Tottenham, Brighton and Bayern Munich and Galatasaray are all top teams. Look at the tables all these teams are at the top of leagues. Behave Danny.

[@raddysrants8407]

I’ve watched the game again from last night and it’s down to fine details. I’m getting behind my club, we’ll get it right. Sick of people looking for problems, screw problems let’s get on with it.

[@JohnDoe-zd9xq]

😂😂😂

[@MrPlank0073]

Thats what they did with degea

[@msfklfl123]

They always want a scapegoat

[@markkofi8522]

Simon always has the courage of his convictions to superfuouslly describe the glazer regime as floccinaucinihilipilification to the performance of the playing staff.

[@peteWxM1970]

😂😂😂😂

[@ssdabel]

I'm a bit surprised I have to say, Simon Jordan is usually the voice of reason, but this caller is 100% right. For Simon to have no other argument, but "they must have a reason" is very very poor. If he did any research, he would know that Ed Woodward himself said it in a presentation that United's on-field success has no impact on their finances. So their "reasons" are not something we should be pointing at here.

[@miaavashow1751]

Paul first Man United supporter who has finally made Simon understand why the Glazers are bad owners and he had no comeback 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

[@garethdavies4540]

No. He was answering his own questions so they gave up pursuing the question they were putting to him.

[@scottbrierley6183]

Great owners. Theyve backed all their managers to the hilt.

[@garethdavies4540]

@scottbrierley6183 that's the undeniable truth.

[@UtdGLORYtv]

Ten Hag has lost the players. He’s not good enough. It’s clear to see. The whole club is rotten to the core. Top to bottom.

[@gorsty7283]

I remember Liverpool finishing 3rd a few years back despite playing 18 different centre back pairings through the course of the season. Van Djik, Konate, Matip, Gomez, Fabinho, Henderson all injured at various points (all had been used at CB) and we resorted to playing Nat Phillips, Rhys Williams and Ozan Kabak, so United have to rely on Lindeloff and Maguire, hardly the same is it

[@FetsumBerhaneDire]

Maguire and lindelof are not fit to tie the shoelaces of almost all of the players you mentioned above no matter where they play.

[@goncaloamaral7846]

@@FetsumBerhaneDireHM & VL did finish 3rd then 2nd in the PL as a partnership, pretty good.

[@msfklfl123]

Just look at Liverpool's squ8ad when Klopp came in, it was a mess, our bench members were barely EPL level.

[@mervynpeters]

Excellent argument. Simon this caller wins the debate.😅

[@gsingh5767]

I totally disagree with Simon’s point on Pellegrini and Mancini. Firstly, they were both successful. Secondly, that’s when City actually started buying other “City Group” clubs and laid their foundations but had the right people in already so were successful.

[@msfklfl123]

According to the head of youth who left Man City last year, internally Man City was a mess under Mancini.

[@paulnamalomba194]

ten hag is next best after klopp? be real. howe is better at playing that same style of high pressing transition play, arteta has shown he can actually improve results with a mediocre defence

[@sagarranjan4585]

Bad recruitment began from 2016 by signing Pogba. Since then Zlatan, Sanchez, Lukaku, Bruno, Ronaldo, Antony, Sancho. Whereas the profile of players signed should've been KDB, Fabregas, Koulibaly, de Ligt, Verratti, Rice, Chiesa, Haaland, Bellingham😂

[@wizkidjosh]

Not a UTD fan but the callers are right, just in this year when the club has needed decisive leadership it has not been there

[@reece7713]

Stop blaming the manager. I dont want another manager. I just want a lot of players out and people at the top of the club.

[@M66CBH]

Managers in the PL better than ETH .. there are atleast 6. “ the glazers “ and “ leaky roof “ don’t make the players play better, they still get a pay packet.

[@jhpfdijtuiweruot]

Lol. A Rangers fan talking about the owners of another football club. Your own club is famous for being one of the worst run clubs in the country

[@jamiiiedee3196]

6:25 That’s exactly the issue, Arnold can’t even fix a roof let alone run the football club.

[@tapiwamutyavaviri-jv7zy]

Brighton prime example of well runed club

[@LOBBYTHEROBBER]

Not in my lifetime..... oh Alex Ferguson you are brilliant. Lots of love. Treble winners City xx

[@flemfleming3149]

City…..second team to do it after Utd showed the way. Won in 99 while you lot were trying to become a non league club

[@markdickens968]

Lol city bought the treble spent millions and never come up against a proper quality side did you? Real Madrid wasn't at there best and you beat inter in the final. Utd treble unbelievable beat a world class juve side away from home bayern in the final without Scholes or keane arsenal in the fa cup semi final with 10 men. The list goes on

[@LOBBYTHEROBBER]

@@flemfleming3149 Yet City entered the CHAMPIONS LEAGUE as champions yet The Rags were only runners up in 99. So we're the first Champions to enter the Champs League as Champions and win the Treble. ETH Mickey Mouse manager,,, Not in my lifetime will you ever be the Daddies. The City is ours!!

[@flemfleming3149]

@@LOBBYTHEROBBER the city is yours but outside of it, United is the only Manchester club supported. No excitement in a bought treble…..not one local lad on the CL team ……all bought and none of those players had dreams of playing for City growing up. If Bolton had been bought by an oil state, the players would have gone there.

[@LOBBYTHEROBBER]

How sh1t is Bruno. Wouldn't get on the woman's team in the city.@@flemfleming3149

[@giles7662]

For 10 years United have bought top players, had top players coming through etc. Some of the world's best. They have had, now, three or four elite managers (LVG and Mourinho in particular - ETH upcoming), had Rangnick, Ronaldo - the lot! And it is still the same problems. People talk about confidence, manager, tactics, Glazers, structure etc. Is it not as simple as the following: Manchester United is not like any other club when it comes to pressure on players - not even Real Madrid. The 'weight' of that jersey is different. One HAS to be a certain type - like Cantona, Keane, Neville, Giggs, Scholes, Robson etc etc etc. Ferguson was able to a) Find such players and b) Mould them into 'mentality monsters'. Now, United appear to do neither.

[@mattbutler7087]

State of the accents of these United 'fans' 😂 Picked a club for reflected glory and now crying because they're not winning every year. Support your local teams lads 😂

[@thegrimreaper1991]

Guaranteed United will pass Liverpool's 30 year record without winning the league.

[@Raggattoni]

'No Winning structure at the club' - Eddie Howe, Amanda Staverley, Dan Ashworth etc etc have never been won anything. It's total nonsense!

[@MightManchild]

Best call in for a long long time by any United fan. He’s spot on. I’d love it for Simon and co (Danny does it a lot better) to listen, especially when Simon says he doesn’t understand the internal workings of United - but has so many opinions on our club. Constantly making the fans look like idiots instead of hearing them out. Our “Director of Football” (can’t even call him one) is a laughing stock in the industry. Brighton got rid of Potter, brought in De Zerbi and it’s the same football. Most interesting? After today’s game between Brighton and Liverpool De Zerbi THANKED the club for finding him those replacement players to Caicedo, etc. United do NOT have that in the SLIGHTEST.

[@CANOES-in3do]

All these man utd fans with manc accents😂😂😂

[@scottorummalleus6917]

United fans keep blaming the Glazers, BUT they've always stumped up the cash when asked !!!

[@AJ-xv7oh]

You are missing the caller's point! The Glazers could give them 10 billion but it doesn't matter if you've not got the right people to do the spending. The Glazers haven't got football staff, they've got business staff!

[@sammyworms]

​@@AJ-xv7ohthen why blame the owners😂😂😂

[@PaOwen1991]

@@sammywormsbecause the glazers appoint the ceo and recruitment staff….

[@davidmckenna8780]

It took Ferguson, Wenger, & Klopp years to build a winning team.

[@nicknewman7848]

Wenger won the double in his first full season if I remember correctly

[@thatcjb1488]

Did I really just hear that after klop and pep ten hag is the next best thing. Absolute joke. Won’t give any credit to any of the managers from either Villa or Brighton. And this is why I am absolutely enjoying the downfall of teams like Man United and Chelsea, but it is beyond me how pundits still suck them off

[@geirhatlestad8812]

Manchester United has recorded the highest net spend of any club in the world over the last decade. And still they blame the owners, go figure. Ten hag train to hard less energy on match day, more injury, soon this team will be in shambles

[@TheDevilsAccountant]

That's the clubs money ...we could spend much more to correct our mistakes but they won't because they have to pay loan intrest payments and dividends ...alot of transfers are still to be paid off even one from years ago and they've also put people in charge who have no business running a football club. They are to blame for 99.9 %

[@richyclubsport5155]

As a long time MUFC fan, I'm sick of Glazers blamed for everything, you are correct, recruitment has been dreadful for years, and Ten Hag must take responsibility for signing overhyped players like Onana and Antony, in his defense he's been unlucky with injuries this season

[@jhpfdijtuiweruot]

@@richyclubsport5155 A long time Man Utd "fan" simping for the Glazers on the internet. That adds up. Lol

[@lfcspectre4335]

Simon = Top LAD Proper Clobber 💯 Facts

[@Unitedbro1999]

Simon wants to talk about the structure below, then lets talk in facts, they hired a man to run the club for a decade just because he was the banker that helped leverage one of the most unethical sports deals of all time and plunge a historic footballing institution into crippling debt! Simon, i dont know if you do it for views or to play devils advocate but you surely can't believe that this kind of ownership doesnt hold the club back?.... not when all the clubs they're competing against are aiming to be elite on the pitch.

[@toye63]

Shoutout to Paul at the end, changing managers isn’t gonna change the culture like the old days, it’s time the club get away from this manager centric structure cause it’s clearly not working anymore. Winning structure to be the best in class overall in every avenue of the club.

[@raymondpcowie101]

Go back ten years, if Man Utd are 'the biggest' club in the world, why didn't they get Pep as manager?

[@BKKLB]

Ten Hag is a politik and an exceptionally self interested one. He's had public rows with half a dozen of his players while simultaneously trying to stack his team with his favorite Ajax players. I don't think he is as tactically astute as some have made him out to be.... When the club loses, he points fingers.... not a good habit for a coach. The best coaches tend to protect their players. Ten Hag spends a lot of energy deflecting blame.

[@JohnYoung-lt8gg]

10 seconds in and I must protest. Loses first choice defence? The first choice aren’t very good anyway and loses their keeper - they didn’t lose de gea, they supposedly chose to upgrade him

[@des9772]

That caller sounds like a good Manchester lad 😂

[@ChristianHeid7]

The current group of Manchester United players are not even in the same book. Yet along on the same page. And there is a reason for that... It's called the Glazers and every single person that is under them at the club. Manchester United can probably make alot of money for next decade for their owners without spending a dime into the infrastructure, the stadium or the training facilities. Don't forget that the women team had their changing room in a container last year.... And Simon is acting like this is on the manager? No... this is on the owners that have been taking money out of the club for years - spending stupid money on burnt out "stars" to sell shirts to make them more money. You can call this buisness... But it has nothing to do with football, nothing to do with success, and nothing to do with the FANBASE that have been ignored from day one under these owners. There were PLENTY of fans that warned about this 18 years ago. And there were plenty of fans that stopped supporting the club right then because they could see where the club was heading.

[@symmie666]

David Moyes - we dont have an identity. LvG - there's no identity Mourinho - the team doesn't have an identity Ole - we can't see what he's trying to do. There's no identity Rangnick - this guy has no control. The team has no identity And now EtH - United has no identity. Moyes, LvG, Mourinho, Solskjaer, all said they got 3rd and 4th choice players in regards to who they wanted at the club. Rangnick said the club needed open heart surgery and the dressing room was toxic, and the players he picked out in Jan werent signed and he was dumped come the summer. Instead of going for Rice and Kane were loaning players who cant even get games at their clubs ffs. Ighalo, Weighorst. Jeeze come on ffs United tracked Kim Min Jae and wanted Kane this summer, and the board rejected any moves for both. And they end up keeping Maguire and McTominay ffs. The club is and has been toxic since Fergie left, and if EtH is sacked, then the cycle will start again and again. It's a total farce

[@dw9652]

Why does Simon feel the need to not agree and try to provide his point of view, just agree, the lad on was making perfect fair and clear points and counter arguments, its obvious that Man U don't have the same structure as teams like City, or even Arsenal, Brighton, Newcastle or Aston Villa, why does he seem to be on the defense, Jordan really is a prick sometimes and I'm not even a Man U fan

[@Robbie--Baker]

Ten Hag given £400m in 12 months. Ten Hag has done nothing in football to justify being Utd manager.

[@Tommfc]

That second caller sounded like a Simon Jordan impersonator 🤣👍

[@garywithers4019]

Interesting to see the continual slump Utd have struggled with (by their standards at least) in the 10yrs since Fergie left. It could be argued the financial landscape of fitbaw was changing when he left us in 1986 & we couldn't possibly compete we the Glasgow 2 regardless of whether he'd stayed. But man utd & Aberdeen are miles apart so that argument doesn't hold when making comparisons on a financial footing. It can't be more than just a coincidence. The guy's made in Scotland...from girders😉

[@GrantMC100]

ETH's "GOOD" season, was entirely a result of Liverpool, Chelsea and Spurs NOT having a "GOOD" season. Utd werent all that last season either.

[@thegrimreaper1991]

Simon would be an excellent director at any club guaranteed.

[@gregbroadway6768]

Good point by Danny, no excuse for being outworked

[@chrissilvester5663]

The simple fact is that when new owners took over City they brought in the best to run the club whereas with United we had & still have ex bankers running the club with zero football knowledge whatsoever. City want to be the best whereas United have become nothing but a commercial club for the Glazers to profit from which they have. The structure difference is plain for all to see. United is a fallen giant that has owners milking it to feed themselves whereas City were a club begging to be become what we once was. City have got top of range training facilities plus a brand new stadium whereas United's has been left to rot & vastly outdated. That is why us United fans are angry at the Glazers cos they've neglected us for 19 years. All the other clubs around us have had some sort of revamp within their clubs. We're been left for dust man in terms of moving with the times

[@astb01]

The biggest mistake the board have ever made was to let Ralf Rangnick go. Yes he spoke home truths but sometimes you need to hear it for what it is. He should have been moved into a DoF role and Murtough should have been moved to the youth set up. Simple as. We are a ship without a rudder and a lack of vision. The club has no clear vision of the style of play and the player profile they want to bring in. This is why Brighton and City have evolved so much because they have the foundations Yes the Glazers have spent but they have spent or given the money to be wasted. The caller Paul is right. Pep came in when they had the right people in place. Pep leaves, they’ll have the same styled manager in place and so it will continue without little or any disruption. At United we just simply give the manager the money who then brings in their style of player and then he gets sacked and the next manager then has to show horn the players into their system. If we had a PROPER DoF we would only bring in players and managers who are of the same brand of football.

[@colinclarke4189]

The money spent is not on the manager. I seriously doubt any top level manager has the time to carry out negotiations for players on fees or contracts. The manager gives his list of players he would like it's left to the board to do negotiations.

[@colinclarke4189]

It's not Ten Hags fault if Arnold and Murtough spend too much on the players. It's on him if the players don't fit his system

[@mungersfolly9028]

Paul was a great caller. Simon, don’t always take the opposing view to gain attention. Use some logical thinking.

[@karlm641]

Simon wrong, City will not have a dip like Man U. Mourinho talked about it in his football heritage speech, they make better investments and have a better structure in place. Yes, there will be a drop off surely, but the next manager will still win things.

[@obainomilano]

They had mourinho who would have gotten them far enough. One who always had one up on pep and Klopp. Utd are still focused on the past, while winners focus on the future.

[@mpumelelobeyers957]

yall side w a man who benched a player in Axajs because he "didn't like his hairstyle/dreads" ...And buy his Jadon Sancho beef?? Streets is finished

[@stephenonaji1308]

A guy that couldn't last 2 months at a club want to get on board at united absolutely clueless🤡

[@RubyMarkLindMilly]

Jim stop butting in on caller's and pundits so annoying

[@jhpfdijtuiweruot]

That's literally his job. Lol

[@dundeeutility4899]

I think Tottenhams manager ANGE should've been man Uniteds new manager and i think hell be at the very top successfully in Europe 💯

[@Jericho642]

Can someone create an AI bot that either mutes Simon, or simply fast forwards through his commentary? Seriously, what are his credentials? He’s a tall show host and failed owner of a small PL club. Never played, never managed, never coached, never won trophies, never had elite level players or managers… he’s just a big mouth

[@EllandRoar84]

I think the bottom line here is that Pep and Klopp are two of the best managers in the world. That is why they have been more successful in recent times. Man Utd have chosen poorly since Ferguson and really missed a trick around 2016 by not hiring one of the above two.

[@paulikens6443]

the bloke who phoned in and said the league cup is a micky mouse cup and then in the next breath says he wants manu to win trophies.

[@jonhayes7322]

Villa have 4 first team players injured - get on with it. The Glazers have put enough money into the club, and the players are not good enough, and neither are the staff.

[@tobygreene3881]

After 10 years of top managers (minus Ole) have failed these idiots are still blaming the manager. The club is rotten

[@gqmanx52]

These guys hates Ten Hag so badly. Terrible! Absolutely talking all the time. Shameful from Talksport.

[@scottbrierley6183]

My teenage next door neighbour inadvertently dropped me on my head when i was a baby. I blame the glazers.

[@FetsumBerhaneDire]

The caller wants to talk about serious issues that remain for a decade and the guys go back to players and coaches that will be gone in few years. Simon talks about City being unreachable while United’s problem is not catching city but being in top 3 consistently no matter who coaches.

[@steffenbradbury4209]

Finally a logical United fan that call in was excellent that is EXACTLY what is wrong with United

[@farfromparadise18]

I remember this happened to arsenal, frankfurt got 35'000 fans into our stadium

[@deedogg1679]

The glazers are in no position to sack another manager with the way they run the club.the glazers should go before ten hag

[@amarnahad2835]

Stop comparing MU to MC. MC have 112 charges who knows where they be in two years!

[@RossKempOnYourMum01]

Why do ppl phone up a radio show and continue doing whatever they were doing before they called? That second caller is clearly walking or cycling, why don't u stop and give the call your full attention? You're not in an episode of The West Wing, ur not that busy that u have to constantly walk and talk

[@matthewsparks7619]

We suffer our first loss of the campaign, not even in the EPL mind you, and sit a point behind City in the table and second in our group in UCL and the world is literally at an end for some people. We are unbeaten in the league, one of only two teams left. We had a poor overall performance vs. Lens and it's time to come unhinged. Bash the transfer window, bash Arteta, bash select players, no way we can beat city now.....the season is over. Blah. Blah. Blah. There might actually be some therapy needed here, but I don't think it has to do with Arsenal. Drama and contention get a lot more likes than reason.