ARE THE HEAVYWEIGHTS ELITE? 🤔 Simon Jordan & Don Charles DEBATE ahead of Joshua v Ngannou!

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[@vet7061]

Very loyal man with integrity, couldn’t of picked a better trainer for Daniel Dubois he has that old school gentleman mentality

[@alijacobs786]

Ok Don

[@ObjectiveMedia]

Don knows his boxing 💯

[@TFB97]

Don Charles is always so good to listen too

[@craigleys6398]

Why does Simon speak like he is an expert of boxing 🤦🏻‍♂️😂

[@NOBODY-cn6fj]

Needs to be put in his place firmly

[@CM-fl9cu]

He is Totally clueless, i cannot understand it. He has already lost Talksport the Undisputed fight. Fury doesn't want TS there because of Jordan.

[@dilochetty9332]

guy is living his best life.. the bigger question is, why are you here hating instead of living your own best life instead of being miserable about things and people you dont know?

[@NOBODY-cn6fj]

@@dilochetty9332 nobody agrees with you ! Go live your best life ! 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@juliusdowning6639]

@@CM-fl9cuJordan may not have a huge amount of boxing knowledge. But at least he has the balls to call out fury’s pathetic antics of ducking fights left right and centre

[@mrsmith7581]

That click of the fingers was cold af lol.

[@JayNubi]

Why do people think Ngannou is this indestructible monster? I believe Joshua will make him look quite ordinary.

[@SadbillNomates]

They should give you a job on Talk Sport.

[@paulkeogh3518]

Heavyweight boxing is different, the level of skill and technical ability is not on a par with the lighter weights. If you take an athletic guy with exceptional power and a good chin and he masters the basics he’s gonna be a world level heavyweight.

[@MrIDFWU]

Fury hasn’t got the best boxing IQ. If he did wilder wouldn’t have dropped him 4 times in 3 fights 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@Bluemagic80s]

The 2nd fight shows how good his IQ is though and the 3rd fight he was out of shape. But hey you know better don’t you 😆🤦‍♂️

[@marcust123]

Whos got the best iq then in your opinion?

[@MrIDFWU]

@@marcust123 my opinion is Usyk

[@marcust123]

@@MrIDFWU he got dropped by dubois tho and went life and death with a old chisora that doesnt look like good iq to me

[@MrIDFWU]

@@Bluemagic80s wilder is pants 👍🏽 that’s what he should of done.

[@Howling-Mad-Murdock]

Dude’s right, Ngannou IS a one off. He became ufc champion with very little experience. I think AJ’s gas tank will be the difference in this fight if he can make Ngannou fight at a pace he’s not comfortable with.

[@youlittlerocket]

Simon should have been a headmaster

[@Tt9tucker994]

The fight went exactly how this man just said

[@ronaldfinch7420]

Don is a good bloke.

[@tristhekid]

In terms of skills, HWs are the least skilled boxers on the planet. Skill, will always lay with the lower weight fighters. Loma, Shakur, Ray Ford, Inoue, Bud, Boots, Hitchinson and many more, can do things heavyweights couldn’t dream of doing and they knock each other out too which is the only thing HWs have going for them, knockouts.

[@alphacanine9641]

Charles exactly as you predicted flight happened & Joshua won.

[@conors2104]

if AJ was in that ring against fury instead of Ngannou he would have won that. Fury was well off. well underprepared

[@kroxx2]

They pretend to not want the fight..but has done over 50 videoes about this fight

[@cusssystem8013]

Don is a lovely guy however has not proved himself yet to be a TOP boxing trainer as Jim keeps saying.

[@Correction294]

It’s crazy how Simon turned bitter so quickly. I was a fan of his a year or two back and I thought his opinions were to the point but fair for the most part. Nowadays he comes across as a jealous child who’s upset they’re not receiving all the attention.

[@biscu6780]

If he 'turned' bitter at all and didn't simply start life like that, hes been the same since he started talking shite on the radio.

[@Nemoticon]

The whole boxing community seems to be living in an echo chamber and can't comprehend the fact that even among professionals and elites... that there are no guarantees! If there were guarantees, we wouldn't watch live sports. Very 1 dimensional and naive.

[@jonb7525]

Don is a decent bloke but I'm not convinced he's the right trainer to take Dubois to be a legitimate world championship contender. Dubois would have been better off with Adam Booth, Peter Fury or Ben Davidson

[@NOBODY-cn6fj]

Good shout ! I agree

[@JayNubi]

So says the 🥊 expert smh

[@dapz7763]

adam booth??!

[@jameswilkinson2619]

Francis ko round 4-5

[@NOBODY-cn6fj]

Hopefully 🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻

[@iggyhiggins.]

I love my boxing, I'm actually picking Frances to win this, aj gets smashed on the chin he will go back into that scared to get hit mode, Francis hits anyone he flat packs

[@christianthornbury6192]

I’ll take your word that you love your boxing but in my past experiences when someone has told me they love something they usually have at least a basic idea what they’re talking about 😂

[@marcust123]

I agree when he feels francis power he will quit

[@nigelw7626]

No chance

[@kennywilkinson913]

​@christianthornbury6192 Just because your ex said she loved you and had only a passing interest, let it go, we have all been there. 😂

[@jayb8298]

None of these heavyweight fighters now including Ngganou would've lasted 5 rounds with Lennox Lewis...Mike Tyson or Holyfield or Bowe...

[@theepicdevil7892]

Ye but in a real fight ngannou could eat them all at the same time

[@jayb8298]

@@theepicdevil7892 Not all at the same time....😄 but I get your point...👍

[@mbsnyderc]

@@theepicdevil7892The stupid street fight argument.

[@ObjectiveMedia]

Spencer Oliver Who says tyson has the best IQ in boxing? He doesn’t even have the best IQ in the heavys and that’s one of the weakest divisions! Come on Spence!!

[@justchilling4491]

Undefeated and able to switch styles during the fight reads the ring very well

[@paulsmyth3580]

@@justchilling4491 He went life and death with a novice lol

[@badgasaurus4211]

@@paulsmyth3580a novice who people are picking to beat AJ?

[@wickedmanrick2582]

Arsenal went unbeaten but still wasnt the best fury is poor​@@justchilling4491

[@kase121]

@@justchilling4491A fighter was a GREAT iq. Does not get dropped by Neven Pajkic or get gifted a decision, over John McDermott. He had the reach & height advantage 😂

[@Stowerslemalu]

There is a tendency to romanticise HW divisions of previous eras. Do I think the Tyson, Lennox, Holyfield eras werw stronger than today? Yes. Do i think Parker AJ or Fury would look completely outclassed against them? No I don't.

[@mbsnyderc]

Actually they might.

[@KennyIMO]

Simon has this view because he's comparing the current Heavyweights to Lennox Lewis, Mike Tyson, Larry Holmes and Muhammad Ali. Yes the current Heavyweights are not as good as them, thats because the best athletes dont get into Boxing anymore in the USA because the other sports there are more lucrative

[@jonmoore873]

The thing is we just don’t know as trying to make the fights is so diluted by all the belts, promoters and broadcasters that you just don’t often see the best vs the best.

[@setharora521]

Big don! Bless ya bruva hope all is well mate

[@jogadhillon4491]

Post fight Don is the DON

[@ssp775]

Is it possible that Furys boxing style is more like mma boxing, hence the reason traditional boxers struggled against Fury, but Francis didn't?

[@craigyboy4770]

He uses size as an advantage but it didn't work with francis as he's a freak of nature

[@TheAndrewgeorgesmith]

Stop shouting Spence

[@redl1ght1]

👃🏻💨❄️Beaked up mate

[@CC44998]

Roger Gracie... Ffs Spencer... The worst person that is paid to talk abt boxing

[@Mcfc2Rich]

Roger Gracie 🤣 I love that Michaelangelo Spyda Silva personally

[@8daysaweek-f2m]

Simon Jordan is like 3.7% Asda’s own larger, A man so out of his depth, he says sorry to his wife afterwards

[@wezist]

I see a devastating KO coming from AJ and its lights out and bye bye to Nngaanu

[@jeremyspeller5713]

This video has aged so badly

[@davebayliss3142]

I wouldn’t watch this sh17 if it was in my garden…. Heavyweight boxing is fixed

[@ML-bu3lz]

It’s not fixed

[@jamiewilliams6529]

I think Joshua is getting knocked out

[@paulyeomans850]

The current crop are not Elite.They are all old men in boxing termsIts all hype.

[@ML-bu3lz]

I really think simon is being more and more exposed for not having a clue about fighting.

[@tevildo45]

Not just fighting

[@marcust123]

I think when aj feels francis power he might end up quitting i hope not tho for boxings sake

[@jonnyhull7860]

None of the heavyweights of today are elite ,boxing of today is a joke

[@mbsnyderc]

Not True.

[@jonathanheywood5482]

Ben Davison became a coach after winning a bet and has shown nothing at all to say he's a great coach like this kid says and look how quickly fury got away from him , Francis found furys head easily and he has head movement Joshua has zero head movement and is defensively average

[@davebayliss3142]

It makes me sick, this Saudi nonsense, you get very respectable. Calling another man “ his excellency “ .. embarrassing sycophants

[@sulaimanhassan6491]

Don’t you call the king his royal majesty in England?

[@michaelrb9837]

All UK trainers suck your fighters are only trained to run rather than power punch and look for KO’s

[@thenandraloneking]

You can put the dummy back in now 😂

[@ronaldfinch7420]

Fury splattered wilder twice. 😭

[@thenandraloneking]

@@ronaldfinch7420 yh but everyone knows wilder is useless tbh

[@michaelrb9837]

@@ronaldfinch7420 And fury was splattered by a 0-1 novice

[@sugarcan1110]

Become boring this channel

[@MainCardMinute]

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[@GaryMartin-s1v]

Simon Jordan is Frank warrens toilet paper like many of talk sport pundits clueless about boxing so allow me to tell you what's going to happen in the heavyweight game. Fury will get punished by usyk as plain as the nose on Simon's face rematch will be the total destruction of fury usyk will then retire leaving everyone else to fight it out

[@mbsnyderc]

That might be true.

[@TheSixYardBox]

Spencer is on crack if he thinks fury was anywhere near his best when ngannou fought him, let's get it right

[@jamesk3784]

You obviously don’t know Africans

[@TheSixYardBox]

@@jamesk3784 what has me knowing Africans got to do with fury being absolutely crap that night?

[@Inmyownleague]

​@TheSixYardBox fury hit ngannou with clean shot to the face. He admitted this and praised ngannou for his toughness. I'm sorry but this is the fury who weighed the exact same 277lbs vs wilder 3. Ngannou was better "technically" than wilder.

[@badgasaurus4211]

8:55 better than Bivol? Better than Canelo? Better than Terrance Crawford? Spence is clueless

[@Jj-ty7qh]

These people just can’t accept that Fury may not be as good as they think. An unjuiced Fury is bang average a juiced Fury is very good and so far we have seen both. What these guys seem to only rem,Ebro is the juiced Fury and when he goes in unjuiced they think it’s under preparedness.

[@jonmoore873]

Not sure we know if fury is any good. Wilder is so limited and the VK fight was dark arts rather than silky skills. Fury just has t fought often enough and has not really risked the belts. Credit to AJ for fighting Usyk and more credit to usyk for what he has done. We might know more soon.

[@Jj-ty7qh]

@@jonmoore873 you make excellent points.

[@D1craigRob]

Boxing is becoming a joke. You have to buy every semi decent boxing match nowadays even though you have a sky sports subscription and others... this isn't a box office fight. Imagine paying for Audley Harrison fights back when he was the next big thing.

[@lfcspectre4335]

Elite Jordanite = Top Lad Proper Clobber ✊