"I'd Like To See Tyson Fury vs Daniel Dubois!" Simon Jordan SLAMS AJ Fury & Johnny Fisher 'Robbery'

[@marcus8030]

When AJ loses he’s trash but when Fury loses people act like he doesn’t happen. This is crazy

[@thomasoxford2140]

My money is on Parker. He's all wrong for Dubois

[@muhammadzain1_]

Why is everyone talking about Dubois next fight even though he's scheduled to fight Joe Parker whos a top 4/5 hw. Hope Parker silences everyone & beats Dubois

[@eon001]

Right. A legit banana peel. Boxing media annoy tf out of me sometimes. I nearly forgot Dubois was matched with Parker.

[@dootwoot]

Because fury's not trying to fight people in line for the belt lol Parker's not in the conversation because fury will likely go for a money or legacy fight what are you on about Parker lol

[@Anthony.Joshua-s.lrish.Grandma]

Joseph Parker is not elite. He was gifted a decision over 15 loss Chisora. He also went life and death with Hughie Fury and Takam and KO'ed by Joe Joyce

[@w.m9494]

​@@Anthony.Joshua-s.lrish.Grandma Andy Ruiz was also robbed in their fight.

[@Anthony.Joshua-s.lrish.Grandma]

@@w.m9494 Ruiz is a B level fighter that got smashed by Miller. I scored that fight for Parker because Ruiz didn't do much after the first 3 rounds

[@MrTears03]

Dubois will be a future “when fighters overlook their next opponent” video

[@ShahanAhmed-h5l]

Nope Dubois’ brain isn’t wired like that he just fights. Words don’t impact his actions. He’ll smack Parker up

[@Crsigox001]

No just wait until hes inna fight being dragged into deep waters hes got quit in his heart

[@Wobra1]

​@ShahanAhmed-h5l Dubois' brain isn't wired.

[@killuamondo8684]

💯Dubois getting smacked up against Parker

[@yourcaptainspeakingband2108]

​@ShahanAhmed-h5lI think Dubois' brain just isn't wired. There is a benefit to being the dumbest guy in the room, though. He is blissfully unaware where he ranks in the IQ, as well as boxing IQ, category.

[@Ads20105]

Overlooking Parker crazy

[@jacklifeonwheels]

Hopefully parker smashes dubous , parker more humble

[@markpurdie7608]

Yep Parker style nightmare for ddd

[@JerryL4rry]

@@jacklifeonwheels u a hater Dubois stops Parker in 3 rounds.

[@yourcaptainspeakingband2108]

Dubois seems very overrated. He has a very come straight forward style, but he couldnt produce an angle with a protractor.

[@AshSUV1989]

@@jacklifeonwheels shut up u clown we all know why u people latch onto parker as of late

[@Correction294]

Simon trying to make out that AJ fought a drastically different Klitschko to Fury when it was under a year and a half time difference.

[@JohnSmith-gp3co]

He was. Fury outboxed a long reigning dominant champion in his own back yard. Joshua had a life and death fight with a 40 year old man coming off a loss and a 12 month layoff. If you don’t understand this then you have no place watching or commenting on boxing.

[@Correction294]

@@JohnSmith-gp3co Most boxing pundits have said that he was a better version against AJ. The Fury fight was a stinker. You have no place watching boxing .

[@anthony2749]

⁠fury ran from the rematch, mental fragility if you ask me

[@displacement677]

​@JohnSmith-gp3co are we actually calling 12 months a layoff now 😂 furys been on a layoff for 50% of his career at that rate 😂

[@user-jd3os8xe4o]

Simon hasn’t got a clue when it comes to boxing

[@kabl00muk94]

But the casuals love him, theyre not in it for the actual boxing. They want to see sensationalism and a Knock Out, Otherwise the lower weight divisions would be way more popular

[@hustleup3840]

Hates AJ for some reason

[@adamyeejy-sk9fh]

I promise you all. Fury does not want that Dubois fight and he will never fight him.

[@craigdaniel724]

Completely agree

[@Anthony.Joshua-s.lrish.Grandma]

Johnny Nelson is a Joshua bootlicker. He said in August 2024; "Fury will not fight Usyk again." "He is done. He will retire"😂

[@Anthony.Joshua-s.lrish.Grandma]

Joshua fanboys and Fury haters were saying that Fury would never fight Usyk and he was afraid of Dillian Whyte 😂

[@adamyeejy-sk9fh]

@@Anthony.Joshua-s.lrish.Grandma let's see then ay.

[@TimothyRipkey]

Dubois lost to joyce

[@rauly93]

Simon is a clown, Talksport is full of clowns. Ofcourse Simon doesn't want AJ vs Fury because Fury could get demolished again, and he doesn't want to see Hearn get a payday, nothing more than that, cause he's a jealous clown. Talksport is full of clueless mouth breathers.

[@DEBASER1202]

Simon, Gareth A Davies and Spencer are insufferable. The rest of them are OK.

[@cusssystem8013]

Simon Jordan you were saying before and questioning the fact that AJ was to fight Dubois ? Now Fury has lost and if Dubois beats Parker why aren't you questioning Dubois VS Fury ?

[@devanman7920]

How could anyone watch that fight and think Fury won? Honestly 😅

[@marcus8030]

Fury has fan boys listen to way people talk about him losing Vs AJ losing when they both lost against Usyk

[@orangerelram1982]

Lets show fury some respect, he's been in two very close fights with Usyk which arguably should be now one fight a piece and the fact he's nowhere near in his prime anymore and he's still the best heavyweight in Britain and still the second best heavyweight in the world. The Dubois fight would be a great watch

[@tevildo45]

It’s never one a piece come on now. Enough of the utter woke nonsense

[@SBandy]

​​@@tevildo45 So "woke" has just lost all meaning now? Not surprised the people who keep spouting it just sprinkle it into every sentence now.

[@MAT-wn5fr]

There's no argument whatsoever for Fury winning either of the fights against Usyk. The fights were competitive but Usyk won both clearly.

[@kh894]

1 fight apiece? Are you OK 😂😂 he lost both clearly

[@CullanWiltshire]

Who is the first caller??? Why does Joshua get knocked out easily by Fury??? Fury hasn’t beaten a decent fighter in like 3 years and has lost or been dropped in his last 3. Genuinely I think AJ smokes Fury.

[@AshSUV1989]

frank bruno demolishes fury

[@stuartkennedy4570]

What fight were they watching no way was it a Fury win

[@MrClassicmetal]

It doesn't matter what fight. According to those guys Fury simply cannot lose a fight.

[@realtalk3968]

Fury fanboys calling in absolutely absurd and delusional to think fury won, the only caller talking any sense is Muhammed

[@adamyeejy-sk9fh]

Dubois will be a VERY tough fight for Fury and stylistically a complete nightmare.

[@vincentvangogh8092]

too much energy Usyk was no phisical threat if prepared but Dubois is on the up getting better every fight

[@IronMike_Tython]

Is DDD really that much better than Whyte or Chisora?

[@adamyeejy-sk9fh]

@IronMike_Tython I'm going to reply despite the stupid question. Dubois last 3 fights eclipse any wins either of those fighters have achieved. Not only that, he's a world champion, something Whyte and Chisora can't say. Hopefully that helps.

[@TheDreamer1980]

​@@IronMike_TythonChrist... Find another sport

[@andrewmanous2932]

@@adamyeejy-sk9fh Millers no good, and I’ve never rated Hrgovic. He’s done nothing to earn the level of hype he’s gotten. Aj was too busy trying to outdo fury fighting ngannou and Wallin that he wasn’t ready for that kind of fight. But I’ll give him the AJ win, that was solid

[@crcolinrae]

Completely agree with Simon here. Fury v AJ fight is a busted flush, far more excited with Fury v Dubois.

[@Anthony.Joshua-s.lrish.Grandma]

True. Fury vs Dubois in front of 100,000 fans in Wembley. Anthony Joshua got smashed by Dubois and ducked the rematch

[@ShahanAhmed-h5l]

Fury vs Dubois is perfect for Dubois and his kingslayer nickname as he’d be able to dispatch of British royalty beating both Joshua and Fury.

[@Anthony.Joshua-s.lrish.Grandma]

​@ShahanAhmed-h5lTrue. Dubois vs Fury is a 50-50 fight in my opinion

[@alexoshike3367]

The problem is fury is too scared to face dubois. Lol. I would love dubois to end fury career. But fury will avoid him just as he avoids to heavy weights. He was forced to fight usyk, remember.

[@leonwright3174]

Fury wouldn’t fight Dubois , he far too young and aggressive for fury , he like too cherry pick them 😊

[@markh88]

I think Dubois has a really good chance of beating Fury. The pace would be too fast for him.

[@Fathervinyard]

too aggressive and young for fury i think he would beat fury at this point aswell

[@adamyeejy-sk9fh]

I think he knocks Fury out mate. Fury has never beaten a fighter better than this current version of Dubois.

[@Edward57645]

@@adamyeejy-sk9fhcan’t see Fury getting Ko’d, however Dubois could stop him

[@beachlife2968]

​@@adamyeejy-sk9fhHe had a very good win against AJ but let's keep some perspective. They said AJ was a beast again when he beat ngannou but reality is they are somewhere between good and bad

[@dangosypethau]

Fury better have that high guard up.

[@danceswithferrets]

I want to see more of Usyk, he's the best in the world.

[@beachlife2968]

Running out of credible opponents. Can only think of Parker and Dubois left hergovic maybe

[@stomingaben]

​@@beachlife2968 Bakole as well why not

[@marcust123]

Hes only beaten bums tho he needs to step up now

[@stomingaben]

@@marcust123 Yeah, Jake Pool next

[@doubleoceo1494]

Klitschko was around 40 years old when Tyson fought him, Biased as per usual , Simon really, who has Fury fought, his boxing cv is atrocious, Usyk aside it’s only Klitschko & Wilder on there, Fury is talented but avoided all the main fights and took the easy road.

[@HisExcellencyB]

It's a fresh match. I've no interest in Dubois facing Usyk again at this point

[@alvinemwanga1270]

To be honest francis knocked fury out i think next fight fury fight aj for the last purse and let the young guns fight each other , I love usyk. I would love him retire at his best

[@Anthony.Joshua-s.lrish.Grandma]

Anthony Joshua got saved by the referees 6 times against Ruiz and Dubois but still got knocked out/quit 😂

[@NeilHawkins-f1l]

@@Anthony.Joshua-s.lrish.Grandma John McDermott. Otto Wallin Deontay Wilder, the long count…niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiine

[@sanders2829]

No more cherry picking to get a belt quicker without fighting hard opponents 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

[@neilrollason]

Close rounds, not close fight.

[@moulinyan]

aj hasnt been likeable for over five years but tyson is a tapper, aj probably catches him and does him in. tyson wont risk losing against him.

[@agnikaineverdies7646]

Dubois was beat by Usyk, so yh Dubois should fight Fury to determine the best in the UK

[@Mav90210]

Fury does not deserve to fight for the championship after losing twice in a row. And after embarrassing the sport by going the distance with an MMA fighter. Fury fans like you don't want to see Fury fight AJ because yall know it would spell the end of he's career

[@Anthony.Joshua-s.lrish.Grandma]

​@@Mav90210Anthony Joshua fought Dubois for the IBF belt after suffering 2 losses to Usyk, quitting against Ruiz and ducking the Fury fight 😂

[@Anthony.Joshua-s.lrish.Grandma]

​@@Mav90210AJ doesn't deserve the Fury fight. DDD Vs Fury for the IBF belt needs to happen in 2025. Joshua got sparked out by DDD and ducked the rematch. DDD and Fury are evenly matched and top 2 heavyweights in the UK

[@Bullylover-tm7gn]

@agnikaineverdies7646 then fight for a undisputed then usyk if he wins retires if tyson beats DDD we get a undisputed trilogy

[@ShahanAhmed-h5l]

Dubois fought Usyk before his upturn while both Joshua and Fury fought him at their mature stage which Dubois has gone into now so Dubois getting a rematch is a justifiable fight.

[@TheAngry]

Reminder that Dubois got stopped by a Jab from Usyk… didn’t win a round in their fight

[@raymondhines5964]

Fury should of lost to ngannou Just a reminder

[@Drelaw658]

@@raymondhines5964 A fury that was doing blow and drinking every day

[@jonmoore873]

I’d like to see Simon Jordan vs Joshua but we don’t get what we want often

[@jackbateman6331]

That First caller is a proper Jordanite 😂

[@tonyh8965]

A lot of deluded people out there that can’t accept fury lost ringing up & saying they scored it to fury. I mean what are these people watching? I can only think it’s that dreaded fanboyism

[@flames1441]

Dubois really needs to calm down… he is moving like nobody can stop him, he needs to remember block feet Joyce jabbed his whole head off

[@JN20293]

Dubois beats fury via ko mid rounds

[@luki7093]

It's clear that Fury fans are all judging the fight via loyalty, not via professionalism, either that or they don't know how to score in boxing.

[@AnyOldTopic]

Can't see Fury ever fighting Dubois (too dangerous) and possibly not AJ either (losing to AJ would taint his career)

[@Anthony.Joshua-s.lrish.Grandma]

Fury offered Anthony Joshua 40 percent split in 2022 and 2023 for the WBC title. Anthony Joshua ducked Fury to fought Franklin and Helenius for no belt and less money

[@tonyb9735]

@4:18 ... Boxing scoring is NOT subjective. It is done by counting punches that land. I do agree though, that Fury is still a top, top heavyweight. If anything, despite losing, I think he earned more credit in this fight,

[@ezza-and-friends]

Dubois will knock him silly

[@Anthony.Joshua-s.lrish.Grandma]

Anthony Joshua tried to act like a gangster with Dubois before the fight then got knocked down 5 times and sparked out cold 😅

[@adamyeejy-sk9fh]

@@Anthony.Joshua-s.lrish.Grandma You're having a mental breakdown trying to convince people that Fury is still the guy. He isn't and never has been. He's been exposed.

[@AshSUV1989]

@@Anthony.Joshua-s.lrish.Grandma how did he try and act like a gangster exactly

[@lfcspectre4335]

Super Elite Simon = Top LAD Proper Clobber ✊👊

[@Matey52]

People forget that Joe Joyce who was schooled by Usyk Put Parker and Dubois to sleep

[@GregWright-pz8lz]

Simon still on franks payroll i see

[@poogapooga3176]

Dubois vs fury. These so called pundits are just casuals at best who are better at talking and convincing than loving boxing.

[@paulosborne3200]

The only people who think Fury won was Fury fans being biased!

[@Alex-bd4ov]

I hardly gave Fury a round-competitive but competitive rounds doesn't mean the fight will result in a close scorecard. It was a clean sweep from Usyk. We need mandatory AI scoring! 118-112 was extremely precise. Usyk has a ridiculous high IQ. He's definitely an all Time Great-if not the greatest of all time. If he was British or American, they'd give him all the glory he deserves.

[@stavsantis]

Yes. It's like a tennis player winning a match 7-6 7-5 7-6 Competitive, yet still straight sets victory.

[@mikewelsh1088]

I agree!

[@che-v8v-q7c]

Dubois hasnt beaten parker yet ,winner fight fury .

[@symonhughes9155]

Do they cherry pick these phone calls? I really want to get on and have a discussion with Simon about boxing and question some of his shite he spouts.

[@KesterRymaruk-l8u]

Fury was never any good. He operated in a cowardly manner, avoiding anyone that was half decent. What was the trilogy with Del Boy all about??!! It was a safe way of lining his pockets and robbing the fans. He's a nobody in the boxing world. He will be a footnote in the history of boxing, Usyk will have an entire chapter

[@liamoxley527]

What a load of old drivel from people without a clue from presenters to the callers

[@rambow66]

Parker vs Duboi ..& Fury vs AJ needs to be the card

[@jaro4742]

1- Why would Fury( or anyone) get a world title shot coming off a loss? 2 - Dubois beating Parker is far from a sure thing. 3 - AJ v Fury is the only fight Tyson has left that makes any sense whatsoever.

[@marky147]

Klitschko's pomp was 18 months before AJ fought him, and when he was training for the Fury rematch 🤣

[@maxpaws3977]

Tyson Fury has now qualified for bum league, he should fight either AJ, Ronnie Pickering or Mickey Theo.

[@FromaTwistedMind]

Ronnie Pickering might be too hard a fight for Fury right now? Jake Paul fight 1st to boost his ego, then Ronnie.

[@user-xh8ui7hw1u]

Keown looks through his blank papers like he's a teacher

[@Charlieandersali]

The ‘Wilder only had a right hand’ mantra is ridiculous. Fury stepped up when others wouldn’t.

[@BillMartin-le8xg]

Fury is shot fighter,can't see him beating any of these

[@jordanberesford6677]

"It would just be an easy knockout" ..Every Fury fan said the same about Usyk..They don't have a clue do they 😂

[@craigdaniel724]

Dubois would end Fury, Fury will take the fight with Joshua for the money, It would be the battle of the losers, Most overrated fight ever which would sell Wembley out guaranteed, The fight should of happened years ago just like Kahn V Brook

[@ndoyisilencobela5800]

WHAT IS THE POINT OF FIGHTING SOMEONE YOU KNOCKED OUT? USYK DESERVES A SPECIAL HONOUR WITH A BELT ABOVE UNDISPUTED

[@Music-oi2nf]

Simon Jordan - a man who never even slightly doubts his own opinion on any subject. Must be unbearable to know personally.

[@DeanFarquharson]

Why would Frank make Dubois vs Fury...that makes absolutely no sense.

[@mhenhbeetseh]

We want AJ vs Fury.

[@alexboyce3099]

KEITH you are spot on mate with your analysis, everyone needs to stop creating narratives in the media and sh*tting on Tyson fury, he lost the first fight by 1 point because of a tiny lack of concentration in round 9 and then came in with a bad game plan with the weight in the second fight and I had it he lost by 2 rounds maybe a round if you was generous for fury, but these lot just follow the broad narrative of the media and don’t have a clue, well done Keith

[@nik2k13]

Dubois Vs Fury will be made, Uysk could retire.

[@GhostonYoutube201x]

Usyk has to, he stays around long enough he will lose, i believe itauma few more fights can be usyk, he has everything usyk has apart from the left and right movement and more that usyk dosen't they are as quick as each other aswell, usyk has slowed down and itauma is very fast, usyk at his age couldn't keep itauma off him for 12 rounds and when he catches he finishes

[@adamyeejy-sk9fh]

Fury won't fight Dubois.

[@blairansellfraser]

Personally the Fury/AJ is as relevant as it’s ever been. In terms as the HW title, Dubois may get outworked, or stopped by Parker. Usyk may end up fighting Beterbiev (if he gets past Bivol), which would be more exciting than the Usyk/Fury fight.

[@eoinmaguire860]

Fury v bakole in riyadh be great fight

[@stephenbermingham6554]

I watched it last night twice and it was seriously close, far closer than the 1at fight.

[@luca99191]

He’s been beat 2-0 so why even mention a trilogy 🤣 Joshua fury is the fight to to be made and we will all watch it no need to lie to yourselves

[@Andrew-dw6ee]

💯

[@maxpaws3977]

Eddie is that you?

[@luca99191]

@@maxpaws3977 I mean Shane doesn’t want Tyson to fight Dubois if he’d have won so may aswell cash both fighters out

[@Anthony.Joshua-s.lrish.Grandma]

AJ doesn't deserve the Fury fight. DDD Vs Fury for the IBF belt needs to happen in 2025. Joshua got sparked out by DDD and ducked the rematch.

[@Andrew-dw6ee]

@@Anthony.Joshua-s.lrish.Grandma "deserve" ..bullshit 😂

[@sunni370]

Most people want to see AJ vs. Fury because they are from the same generation. Dubois has Parker to deal with, and if he gets through Parker, people would like to see him face his mandatory, which would be the winner of Kabayel vs Zhang, or Bakole, who is next in line. Let the older Generation compete with each other and lets see who's the best of the new generation of fighters

[@artursurma]

Usyk vs Parker Fury vs Dubois ( best in the UK) AJ vs Wilder (overpaid champions) Whyte vs Miller (battle of the juicers)

[@bertrandkadda7717]

The man beat all the heavyweights and y'all want him to fight again in cruiserweight. Thinking Opetaia can beat Fury? Doesn't make any sense at all. Usyk is just an exceptional fighter, one of the best I have seen in 37 years.

[@jasondyer811]

By rights Usyk should fight the winner of Parker and Dubois .As for Fury ,I would say him and AJ have a fight . Martin Bakole needs to be brought into the equation somehow to .

[@narang]

Bakole vs Usyk is the most interesting fight right now imo

[@martingodden613]

No the real result from Saudi was seeing Moses Itauma - i have watched boxing for 70 years (when 10 and was a huge fan of Randy Turpin) this young man is going to be one of the greats

[@fredneuwirth6324]

Good suggestion. Dubois vs Fury could be interesting

[@JazzyJabbz]

Yeah that would be amazing even as a Fury fan. I think I favour Dubois here. Fury just cant get through a training camp anymore. He has treated his body with utter contempt and it’s showing now

[@geoffreypenzer415]

in my opinion ,usyk definately won clearly, closely watching where punches landed, usyk landed punches much more accurate ,fury overall, punches were sloppy, missing,and blocked,but fury did better then in the first fight

[@lukesabatini-mcnamara7667]

Think fury should have a homecoming fight to build back up against pulev

[@FromaTwistedMind]

I think Furys next fights should be, in order.... , Chrisopher Colin Barr, Ronnie Pickering... then Jake Paul , then retire with 3 new wins under his belt?

[@errol9210]

Simon Jordan..he calls Rashford not world class but says Fury is great 😂😂😂😂😂 .... ... He really wants the Great White Hope to be British at all costs 😂😂😂😂😂

[@tonyb9735]

Fury vs winner of Dubois vs Parker AJ vs the winner That winner vs Usyk

[@Alex-bd4ov]

Al judging should be mandatory it would allow boxers to fight anywhere in the world. Coz we know non-Brits will be robbed mad in the UK. These people only watch the British fighter in a fight. Unless it becomes evident that he or she is losing.

[@EVARANGIHUNA]

Dubious needs to get past Parker first. Fury beats Dubious.

[@UTFB1365]

Usky v Dubois should be next fight. Usky gets all the belts back becomes undifeated unified heavyweight champ then retires

[@airmax90_king93]

That guy that called in sayin Tyson won the fight needs psychiatric help.

[@RBC0405]

Fury would never take that.

[@davieboywassup]

A couple of losses and you’re a write off. That’s only because all fights are rematches. They all have to fight each other like a league. Have a night more regular and have bills that are full of the fighters in the league.

[@Becs932]

Nope I want fury to retire now and enjoy the rest of his life .

[@markpullinger3916]

Fury needs to fight couple of fights before usyk again Why should fury retire 60m 36 minutes work

[@robmorrissey7816]

Fury v Dubois would be the only fight worth Fury staying in the game. Good shout - chance to become 3 time champion and best of the rest. Anything else would have 0 % motivation to Fury other than money.

[@stuckinkiev]

Fury Joshua is an easy fight to build up and will be entertaining, could be very fan friendly too. Dubois can fight the winner if he gets past Parker.

[@ritchski1]

I wouldn't be surprised if Dubois won, only because Fury looks on his way out to me. yeah its hard to look good against Usyk, but he was sluggish and should have been able to beat down the smaller man, he had so many advantages but had no steam.

[@AshSUV1989]

dubios would absolutley demolish fury

[@paturch7201]

Fury has just lost, so he had to follow through from the bottom ladder upward and not just jump through to challenge for a title with DDD. There is AJ, Parker, Zhang, Bakole, etc. in the waiting. Tyson Fury should fight at least 2 of these boxers and win, before challenging for the title again. That's how it should be, otherwise, I'll be sensing that the boxing world is favouring Fury.

[@simonbrandy9662]

The more Simon Jordan speaks on boxing. The more he shows himself up. Fanboys like him shouldn't be anywhere near boxing punditry. Simon has probably never had a fight in his life. He's the sort of guy who would grass up kids to the teacher to avoid a scrap.

[@kbdoran2257]

If Dunois beats parker id like see fury Vs dubois

[@davidscott4637]

The fight is over Fury lost get over it armchair warriors talking endless BS.

[@TheRealLegenDz]

Michael doesn't have a clue😂

[@JV-rg1ud]

sure, it was close. but was it a fight?

[@sanders2829]

Spot on

[@shauntaylor-er8lr]

Disrespectful to Parker.HopeParker beats Dubouis.

[@BurningBushPedagogy]

Why would Usyk walk away just bc he beat AJ and Fury, he beat these guys to get the belts became champion of those belts, how many times and how many different boxers have challenged him, ? The former undisputed Champs defended belts again so many. People act as if their only few boxers in the world, Only AJ, FURY, WILDER, RUIZ, USYK, DUBOIS, their are BAK9LE, EFE, and others.