Tanya's Words :: The Irrationalism Of Humanity

[@Dheerajsingh-nn7th]

That was a great anime deserving 2nd season that we never got

[@chrislovato7141]

Which anime?

[@soulcore8630]

@@chrislovato7141 Read the description..

[@imabadonegetoverit6465]

@@chrislovato7141 Saga of Tanya the Evil

[@lukk4848]

Same with so many anime.

[@FnLl523]

Oh come on at least be grateful we were provided with a movie ...no actually yeah I'm also mad that there's still no 2nd season

[@soulcore8630]

I can literally see a Demon King/Lord give this speech towards Human Nobles

[@wordsbeyondgeneration9848]

She has some pretty good points.

[@soulcore8630]

@@wordsbeyondgeneration9848 That is true, I don’t think anyone would deny her words at all. In my view I say Humans are Chaotic by nature

[@meep8512]

Weeboo

[@raychii7361]

Sadly rule number one in anime to be a noble is being STUPID and not worth taking seriously.

[@radioblitz1494]

@@soulcore8630 i think humans are chaotic stupid, what sad is society call people with emotion disconnection insane

[@CelticVizard]

Even if you know it exists, it's a force no one can break from.

[@topperbopper4671]

What about suicide bombers?

[@unclebill3161]

@@topperbopper4671 they are also driven by emotions of some kind . Example:isis wants 72 virgins in heaven

[@Gorjak13]

@@unclebill3161 that driven by desire

[@joshhowellb.biboso7178]

@@unclebill3161 that's called desire

[@proudfirebrand3946]

@@joshhowellb.biboso7178 desire = Emotion

[@n1ghtmar3w0lf3]

what makes this hit is that this is solid truth

[@hypothalapotamus5293]

The ideas behind this speech are largely taken from the Prussian military philosopher Carl Von Clausewitz, which I think is a nice touch because it fits the setting. According to Von Clausewitz, policy makers frequently start wars with seemingly rational objectives only to find that they have completely lost control over the scope, nature, and objectives of the conflicts. The problem is that war means many different things to different people and its horrors stir up incredibly violent emotions that are often difficult to anticipate or control. This could mean intervention by neighboring countries or more staunch resistance by the enemy, but it also could mean that the policymakers might find themselves beholden to an enraged populace in the homeland (rather than controlling the war, the war controls them). I think Von Clausewitz's ideas are very applicable almost 200 years after his death, but he's dangerous because he offers wikiquotable statements that don't mean what people think they mean. His actual opinion is distributed among several very convoluted paragraphs.

[@makeitmodded]

S2 confirmed and I cannot wait!

[@MrDillertjavsen]

about time xD fuck i love this show any idea when ?

[@chocofrvr2603]

If something is to be considered “irrational” then it would be this sentiment right here. Imagine a rope tied to a sturdy object and then the other end on a block of weight, if too much weight is applied then the tension would lead to the rope snapping. This same law of nature also applies to humans. If tension is put in a brain then it would only be short until the mind eventually snaps. Like a volcano filled with pent up tension and pressure, erupting releasing all the magma built up inside. What she’s asking for is for the human mind to un-abide the laws of nature, she’s asking that we surpass life itself. Overcoming even the basic principles set to every being in this world. As a person who’s familiar with rage, i can say it myself that it’s simply unavoidable. And if it is, then it would be unnatural.

[@Gorjak13]

shes saying if you let your emotions consume and block you from thinking then you become a fool. emotions if not properly kept under control will only lead to disorder, chaos, and animalistic behavior. those who give into sadness will fall into despair those who give into anger will become savage those who give into pleasure will become intoxicated those who give into to fear will become cowards to become an advance human being one must be in control of their selves and only then we will find peace

[@sixjhontongalamar979]

Based on context, which is the main reason for her speech, I believe that she only meant that they (the higher ups on the echelon) should not just base their action on logic but also emotion. Logic alone made them "not use their victory right" and led them further to an "illogical" continuation of the war. As such, she says that they should not just crush them "logically" where they (opponent) won't have any "capability" to harm them, but also crush their "any sign of hatred" which would remove also their reason to fight back. I don't know if you misunderstood her statement, but that "unavoidable" that you speak of is why she believed that the war will continue but the higher ups didn't considered.

[@sixjhontongalamar979]

Besides, her statement is actually rational with the basis of "humans are both logical and illogical." Considering that they are fighting against governments that governs millions of people each, they should win logically while considering the irrationality of humans. Else, war will continue until the empire is destroyed.

[@fluffymyato3334]

Tanya never said that we should solve the irrationality of humans at all. She's saying her higher ups should take that into consideration. This was after she was stopped from attacking the enemy's remaining forces. This was more like a warning to the higher ups who celebrated too early and let their guard down just because of a treaty.

[@chocofrvr2603]

@@Gorjak13 and here’s my argument here. Yeah what you said is true and I took that into account, what I simply meant to say is everything has it’s limit or breaking point. Every man and woman can choose to suppress these emotions and it’s only a matter of time until emotions start to well up. People could resist these desires but only to some extent. This is why suppressing too much emotion could lead to serious mental instability that then leads to either mental illness or brain damage. Refusing to function as a normal human being could result to losing one’s humanity, a fate far worse than any type of suffering in the world. Unable to smile, unable to laugh, unable to cry, unable to weep... and unable to love... I cannot think of such as cruel as this. And the human mind knows this. That’s why it so desperately avoids it by using the thing we call “emotion” you either have more of it, or less of it. A ratio of which determines who you are as a person.

[@igkslife]

Still makes great points.

[@rabbitthief1835]

That profile pic and that name just scares me😓

[@igkslife]

@@rabbitthief1835 fear me meat! 😂 well don't take it seriously.

[@rabbitthief1835]

@@igkslife 911 a yes I have a mad man trying to kill me😂

[@igkslife]

@@rabbitthief1835 like they'll help you, meat. REEEEEEEEEEEES!

[@rabbitthief1835]

@@igkslife but GOD will.

[@sammendy138]

I really love this anime

[@Kctyb_]

Which anime is this ?

[@necrosteel5013]

Some humans don't end up this way, but for every saint comes a thousand sinners.

[@Gorjak13]

There is no saint

[@godofdeath8785]

@@Gorjak13 true

[@Avicerox]

@@Gorjak13 No, saints are in fact real, the fact that there are so less of them throughout history is another thing. But, there have been people who pledged themselves to humanity.

[@Gorjak13]

@@Avicerox this is true but despite that, the amount of saints in this life is very very small, only someone with a pure heart with no evil, chaotic and or unbalanced feelings can be considered a saint and because we are imperfect humans it's almost impossible for us to be pure and holy, by nature, our complexity knows no bound. We are willing to kill are own baby born child simply out of complexity.

[@Avicerox]

@@Gorjak13 Yes, sadly.

[@erenjeager9442]

'We Humans are all the same..." -Kenny Ackerman Edit: What Episode she quoted?

[@bmb0053]

None, I think it’s from LN but it’s just my guess Edit: Was wrong probably dub of ep 12.

[@pesii1452]

I think she said the same thing in volume 2 of the LN during the arene massacre

[@inasapostle13thapostleofthe12]

I love this part (and theme) of the story. But even though the englisch VA does a great job, to me nothing can beat Aoi Yukis performance as Tanya.

[@gennaioisrael8929]

In my opinion those who say she is wrong is wrong in of its self. She is saying this from all she has expirenced also she is not say all humans are like this not everyone has a strong will and even then sometimes those people break too but the point she is making is that humans can and will do irrational things in the heat of the momment moreover she is not placing herself on a pedestall she is just acknowledging that humans do these things when they are pushed to their limit

[@clothar23]

All Tanya did was point out Humanity's greatest strength and its greatest weakness. It's a irrefutable fact that by its very nature can neither be right or wrong. Anyone thinking otherwise is soft in the head. It doesn't take a lifetime of war to know Humanity is likely the most irrational creature in existence. Tanya realised when she was still a middle aged executive. Seeing the battlefield only reinforced her awareness of it.

[@mattmeeker7408]

i agree with her view on humans as a total

[@Emperorofthebleedingroses2405]

Revenge sounds so mean that's why I call it returning a favor......

[@tristanmejia3005]

Nice to see some Raul's reference here lol

[@Emperorofthebleedingroses2405]

I love this show I often ponder why they never continued it last I heard there was a movie not another season of this amazing tv show meh.My expectations dwindled after that.

[@user-The-Mark-Of-Cain]

Tanya the Evil VS Nikola Tesla from Records Of Ragnarok

[@grantsampson776]

Only saw ONE idiot bring up twitter politics in the comment section! Extremely amazed of the rest of you, gold stars all around! (except that one guy, he can have the apple core I haven't thrown away yet.)

[@user-nk8zx1yw8s]

apple cores kinda tasty though

[@grantsampson776]

@@user-nk8zx1yw8s It was not an apple core you spring to eat, I'm afraid

[@user-The-Mark-Of-Cain]

Think about it Nikola Tesla from Records Of Ragnarok was the child of light just imagine if Tanya the Evil: the child of darkness just imagine If she was to fight in Records Of Ragnarok in the last round to save Mankind

[@aimi5559]

Lowkey wanna know what the back ground music is

[@wordsbeyondgeneration9848]

It's original background music from the series.

[@aimi5559]

Can I get the name please

[@wordsbeyondgeneration9848]

@@aimi5559 The Saga of Tanya the Evil.

[@Raphley]

@@wordsbeyondgeneration9848and the name of the track itself? Listening through all but never found this on

[@GilgameshDarc]

Can I please know the Episode number....

[@gotskilsudont2149]

should be 12

[@mightytaco123]

She’s say this as if no one knows that’s the case

[@chintufireman6040]

i'm going to use this voice to upload it on my channel do u have any problem?

[@isaaruthethief]

AMEN!

[@wafflelover7418]

I'm so sad they didn't do an English dub for the movie. Here is hoping for the season 2 English dub 🙏

[@byleethomas3190]

She's right

[@istalkghosts497]

This and peins cycle of hatred🤘🤘🤘

[@matheussandoval2619]

Well well, looks like Andrew Ryan have a Daughter

[@TexasBoy13]

I have become death. Destroy of worlds. And with the construction of nuclear weapons, mankinds fate of destruction is nearly complete.

[@jerrywood4891]

She sounds like maho from steins gate 0!

[@agustingutierrez4541]

Episode?

[@wafflelover7418]

I think it was ep 12

[@misakamisakasays4403]

@@wafflelover7418 yep it was ep 12

[@halloeverybodhi613]

What scene is this?

[@davidhytha9828]

I think it was her explaining why "French" are gono go Dunkirk and it will cause total war. After they stopped her from launching rockets. Been a while, so take it with a grain of salt.

[@cunningsmile4166]

I sooooo get it

[@Kctyb_]

Which anime is this ?!!!!!!!!!🔥🔥🔥

[@wordsbeyondgeneration9848]

Tanya the Evil.

[@Shinyprofjareth]

Bulma is that you

[@vicentegarcia6400]

Yes, yes it is

[@jadonfyeet2634]

What is the name of this anime?

[@Moircuus]

Saga of Tanya the evil

[@jadonfyeet2634]

Thanks

[@youtubewatcher1309]

read the manga. there are no skip scenes like in anime

[@misakamisakasays4403]

You should also read the ligth novels

[@shinkue_108]

just one question, what is the name of the anime

[@cesarmolina6089]

youjou senki or tanya the evil saga

[@shinkue_108]

@@cesarmolina6089 thanks

[@kammmmal211]

Try reading the novel. Its good, many detail about strategy and history

[@shinkue_108]

@@kammmmal211 NÖ

[@kammmmal211]

@@shinkue_108 then try read the manga

[@CrimFang]

words of the smartest 11 year old

[@rustyknight2066]

War

[@Cloofinder]

So it seems Thanos was right.

[@wordsbeyondgeneration9848]

🤣

[@prathameshshegokar5321]

She is right BUT don't you think that only reason or self interest is not enough it is important but not enough,, for example to a soldier win is just not enough in war the emotional attachment with the country is the key that he will win So she's kinda wrong

[@pesii1452]

What

[@prathameshshegokar5321]

Exactly,,,,

[@thevexprojecthd7620]

Dance in the Vampire bund

[@imanimcclurkin5054]

That the voice actor ?

[@ernestcolemantheking]

Looking at the SJWs today, She not wrong

[@dravegaming8162]

At

[@xsj_anonymous17domain-styd12]

Coming from a women wow Totally badass of one. It's so badass I'm literally laughing my ass off. Oops it fell.😅 Lemme just pick that up.

[@misakamisakasays4403]

Well actually an 11 year old girl

[@winterbeast6326]

I mean, no? You can overcome emotions, especially if they are stupid or irrational, with enough will. Sounds like a poor excuse to do whatever you want.

[@l.k9043]

That mean you have not be pushing hard enough... Or you just that strong of a human.

[@winterbeast6326]

@@l.k9043 I'm not especially strong. I just fight for what I believe in. If we keep fighting for ourselves, thinking that everyone does the same, nothing will ever change. Even if it can get difficult at times, I don't want to live a life I wouldn't be proud of. As for living through hard times, I'm certainly not the worst in that aspect. I know hundreds of persons with way harder lives than me, which is the reason I try to never treat anyone harshly. But I did live through my fair amount of pain, like anyone, after going through a big depression which lead me to a form of nihilism during pretty much 4 years of my life. But as I said, many people live hard lives, I would even tend to say everyone. So I just try my best to make this world a better place by being a better person.

[@shadowfuture1378]

@@winterbeast6326 and how that going 🤡😂

[@shadowfuture1378]

@@winterbeast6326 you becoming a better person don’t make me laugh 🤡

[@winterbeast6326]

​@@shadowfuture1378 It's going pretty well. I'm happy with my family and friends personally and I also feel better knowing that I try to accept everyone. I hope each and everyday for a world where everyone starts to understand each other, like I try to do everyday. I'm at peace with myself, I don't need much money. I'm happy with mostly that and my passions. I don't care about recognition either. I can appreciate the world for how truely wonderful it is. Being nicer to everyone really helped me reach this. Before, I was just a mess. Didn't care about anything or anyone. I went to wonderful places and meet incredible persons without ever caring. I just wanted either the entire world to disappear, or myself. I would also make fun of people for no reason. I was the worst, an ungrateful naive idiot if you ask me. This mindset is honestly shit. So everyday, I feel better knowing it's nothing more than a bad memory now. I don't know why you took that so negatively. Maybe someone has told you something similar before, and really didn't change after all? I know some people that did this, and it really hurts. So I relate with you. But you need to get through that first sensation of sadness and anger. Once you do, you'll start seeing things more positively, I can tell you that for sure. Anyways, I wish both of you to be happy, everyone deserves it.