Targi & Expansion Review - An Assault of Salt

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[@pontuslidekil6840]

I love the lore build that they have a fruit for every thing they need to compare things to.

[@fazzi4019]

O jkijppookkkk kmimmp io mm

[@matvocaat]

Fazzz Azzz understandable

[@sinistersharkfish]

I mean as long as there's a rook or a queen somewhere on that file, it's checkmate

[@modularcuriosity]

13:44 made every actual chess player scream in agony.

[@berttrobaugh6494]

Just wow.

[@john-marccartagenas6706]

“Outmaneuvered”

[@Woodledude]

Clearly the implication is that White has outmaneuvered Black by putting themselves in check, thus psyching out the opponent into not quite taking their king and creating an easy opening for the king to take the bishop and escape.

[@DualKeys]

I’m not even that good at chess, but I was thinking, “Wait a minute...”

[@oskarpimlott3058]

@@Woodledude my thoughts exactly

[@sheldonconrad7878]

Excuse me, but you're just gonna tease me with Hundreds of Horses and not gonna say anything about it?

[@z-beeblebrox]

This sounds very different out of context

[@josephgordon504]

Literally makes me want to go back and check if they have been doing something like this since forever

[@blacksheep9950]

Probably a gift from Board Game Barrage.

[@MrBongoking]

Greg Wilson correct. Given as a gift when Quinns guested on their live show at Shux last year. It’s popped up as an Easter egg in several videos since

[@PaulLaPorteJr]

"Screw this game, what's Hundreds of Horses?" - Me at 6:30 in this video.

[@citylifechurchlivestreamin7160]

My biggest question after this video is when are we are getting a review of Hundreds of Horses?

[@fabross09]

3:52 Is that a tease copy of Pandemic Legacy: Season 0 reflected in the mirror? 👀

[@medikcz1]

This need to be upvoted. I want EXPLANATION.

[@timor.9572]

Looks like one

[@RichardMaassen]

🤔

[@_varden]

At 3:08, you can see it in clear view :)

[@sam1111979]

@@_varden I think they somehow added that in the video edit. It goes back to a real box of Hundreds of Horses in the same take, and even SUSD couldn't have a game that hasn't even been made yet, surely...surely?

[@artlailey1496]

Can we just appreciate 0:23, the homage to the wonderful act of Matt cooking an egg

[@seraphonica]

The most chesslike board game of all time? I'll have to go with, uh, chess.

[@shutupandsitdown]

But... that would be an *insanely* tough thing to review....

[@bryanvisser6207]

I'm going with the spoiler cleverly hidden under our very noses: Hundreds of Horses

[@halbaraddunedain]

@@shutupandsitdown Sure the first edition is a timeless classic... but where are the expansions? It's like the publishers don't _want_ to make money from an IP that is so ingrained in the collective consciousness that ABBA made a musical about it.

[@fjhope82]

The duke? Maybe hive?

[@testoftetris]

I'm holding out hope they'll finally review Santorini, even though Paul wasn't too enthused with it back in the day.

[@rown2k4]

Targi's probably my favorite 2p game. Thanks for the video review of an old game! You have effectively piqued my interest in the expansion. I read years ago that it was not essential since, well, it just added water. And probably making the Goods space not an auto-pick for the first player. You had a good point that it makes Targi a new experience due to the additional complexity.

[@ericfrancis7816]

Thank you, thank you, thank you! This is one of my favorite games and probably my all-time favorite 2P-only! The designer, Andreas Steiger, is a delightful presence on Facebook, too. My one question to you, Mr. Q, is that if you're going to place Targi in such rarefied company as Concordia, Istanbul, and Fields of Arle, why didn't it get the SUSD Seal of Approval?

[@michaelorford8304]

"Dates" was very clever with the clock but I thought a better prop would be maybe a bouquet of flowers and a fancy restaurant menu.

[@PeterClotworthy]

06:34 turn on subtitles and see what Quinns is _really_ saying

[@HeinzMcDurgen]

Actual lol. Thanks for pointing that out!

[@mrtalos]

Quinn's really likes his board games

[@jedgrahek1426]

lolol thank you

[@mansmo9513]

I live in North Africa and I met one Targi man in my whole life, and he was not covering his mouth.

[@jonahfalcon1970]

Targi: The Next Expansion Targi: Another Expansion Targi: You Tired Of Expansions Yet? Here's Another Targi: Apocalypse

[@nerdfatha]

and when you need another one just for the Hell of it-- Targi: Madness...Cthulhu in the Sands

[@jonahfalcon1970]

@@nerdfatha Targi: The Big Box will be as large as a refrigerator.

[@TuberTugger]

Targi: The Next Expansion Targi: The Blue People Targi: ??? Targi: Profit

[@dave0754]

Targi: Civil War

[@sumyunguy5832]

"I'm going to steal those dates like a divorcee with low self-esteem" Quinn 2020

[@TuberTugger]

I didn't get this one. Are divorcees stealing my dates? Like I have a date but the divorcee is more appealing and steals my date away? My dates were always stolen by strapping footballers. But that's just me I guess. What's the low self-esteem part and how does that make the divorcee more appealing?

[@tom05011996]

I would love to see onitama included in "chess season" It is by far one of my favorite games.

[@j.prt.979]

T agreed. It’s a great two-player game perfectly suited for this type of series.

[@TomasCordilheira]

My guess is that is the game he is going to review next

[@Sand_Bard]

I come for the game reviews. I *STAY* for the analogy gymnastics!

[@jedgrahek1426]

Thank you Quinns, I had been having reservations about how the parents might react to the process, and your advice has been invaluable.

[@themadgamer319]

I spent almost all of this review looking at the literally hundreds of horses in the background

[@EpicRag]

This was probably the must fun I’ve ever had watching a board game review for a game I’m not event interested in!

[@mrtalos]

First time you have watched shut up and sit down? I've bought 2 games they have recommended, Gloomhaven and Pandemic. And Pandemic was more because of current events.

[@Dracinard]

Ah, you're new to SU&SD? Enjoy your stay! Pick a random review of theirs, ideally with Quinns in, and enjoy getting stupidly excited over something you've never heard of :)

[@thomaswarriner2344]

The bake off the professionals reference was vastly appreciated

[@jackdempsy7104]

“I’m going to steal all the dates from them, like a divorcee with low self-esteem.” Whew! Harsh! And, delivered with perfect indifference. Well done, sir.

[@ryanofottawa]

Onitama? Either that or competitive slip n slide while wearing bishop's hats.

[@UheReasin]

Ok good, I thought I was the only one that hated Onitama. It literally does nothing for my brain

[@dandurkin9735]

@@UheReasin Thank goodness - there are other haters (and I enjoy abstracts, but not that one).

[@dwnvwdjvn]

Love Targi, I can get my Dad to play and enjoy it over a pint or two and it was relatively simple to explain... great game.

[@nnamtloh5]

Targi is the board game that got my girlfriend and me into the hobby!!!!!

[@recklessroges]

"The most chess like board game of all time? " Shogi?

[@lucastweedle]

Is that Pandemic Season 0 I can see at 3:48??!!?!?

[@FaceInAClock]

Yeah, I saw that too!

[@guv1111]

isnt pandemic season 0 just... the year 2020

[@_varden]

At 3:08, you can see it in clear view :)

[@lostfan10000]

14:52 It's Checkers!

[@thatgeek8064]

0:50 omg. Im glad to see they still haven't let go of this running gag after 9 years

[@SmoggySandwich]

Thank you for taking some time to focus on two player games. A lot of games that aren't designed with two players in mind aren't that great with just two players so this is a great series.

[@MrShalimgar]

0:23 Matt's cooking skills are eggcellent

[@eviola11]

That's interesting that Quinn recommends Fields of Arle at the end. Heard him on a pod with Tom saying how much he did not like it.

[@tylerbrown9797]

It blows my mind that this isn't the beige-ist euro game out there when its a game set in a literal desert of beige.

[@Luchiop]

I would like to recomend you all read "Touareg" the novel by Vasquez Figueroa. One of the coolest adventure books I`ve read and it really teaches you about their culture. They are badasses

[@TehShrike]

I've played tens of thousands of games of chess, and the most chess-like game I've played is Hive

[@TomasCordilheira]

There is already a review on hive. Probably Onitama

[@hanseathl]

One of my and my wife's evergreens. Such a good game and the expansion makes it even better.

[@GarySonnenberg]

Spot on! Found myself saying (aloud to myself), "Yes, exactly!" about every third sentence.

[@AnarchoLoserist]

The chest season gag is fuckin killing me

[@MattTheSpratt]

that "Good Example" was such a garden path metaphor

[@citylifechurchlivestreamin7160]

Yay! Another SUSD review!

[@vzuzukin]

A nice “Behind The Scenes” episode on how Quinn shoots his videos 📹

[@shradercinc]

You guys going to be looking at Onitama? and its like, 5000000000 expansions

[@mausklick1635]

Will you ever review Everdell? It looks so damn cute.

[@justinclemmons3816]

I've loved playing Targi on Board Game Arena

[@thenerdsquad379]

I was ready for him to discuss the Hundreds of Horses tie in. You let me down, Quins.

[@pfefferle74]

Oh, please don't make me order Fields of Arle! Please don't make me order Fields of Arle! Please don't ... too late.

[@llyranor]

I love Arle. My fav 2p game.

[@golgarisoul]

I didn't get a notification for this episode. Luckily I always double check my sub feed to make sure I do miss out in videos when my notifications bug out.

[@whatboardgame]

Unsure how this can be bad if your not evenly matched but concordia works? Targi is an amazing game no matter the player levels for me. I regularly play against my 7 year old son and we have a great time or my friends who are way better then me and again it is still really fun. The expansion also makes the choices a lot more open and levels it out more.

[@Argascend]

I don't know what you're talking about, I got all my biscuits.

[@cristianoamici2200]

Just as I'm considering buying Targi, SUSD comes and films this. Must be a sign

[@Bedwyr7]

What's up with the "Apollo 47 Technical Handbook"? I looked it up and it's... Techno Music?

[@CarriedbyGg]

I still remember fondly the podcast where Quinns was trying to explain Matt the geographical concept of this boardgame :)

[@TrentMantis]

6:45 Always like to hear a mention of our historical rivals the old masters used to fight on the roof tops of Hong Kong.

[@TorIverWilhelmsen]

An apple and two oranges? This video is pearless.

[@lgmb0t1]

I threw my head back and laughed out loud at “sterling-silver idiot”. Alone. In my place. Neighbours probably heard. (Thanks.)

[@mechasduo004]

The Duke? Are you going to review The Duke!?! Fantastic review!

[@Tennethums1]

Excellent review, excellent game. Should be part of any “two player only” library.

[@quibily]

I thought this game was too dry for me, at first-but after about five plays, I got really into it. Now, 13 plays in, my husband and I are very evenly matched and can bang this game out in about 40 minutes, so I actually get hankerings to play this game,and it just plain feels good to explore every time. I guess that’s another way it’s like chess; the more you play it (and with the same person, I’d argue), the more rewarding it is. In my opinion, this and Fox in the Forest are the two 2P games in my collection with the most staying power, for these reasons.

[@traemaze8905]

Another great review. Gotta say I'm actually happy they called it Targi the expansion. I know its not the most glamorous name, but could you imagine buying just the expansion without it having the name expansion in it. Then needing to go buy another game or return the expansion just to try to find the base game. headaches and frustration cause a lot of people to give up on games. If like you said in the review it is a more simple and toned down euro game I could see this being recommended to newer players who want to try euro games out? and yes that last one is a question. I bring this up because I once got a Dominion expansion without owning the original game, only to have to wait for a week to get the base game because I missed the small box on the bottom saying "Not a complete game" plus the first edition of intrigue came with base components, second edition doesn't. The store clerk didnt know that they removed the base components in the second edition so ensured me that the game contained everything I needed. Honest mistake on everyone's part.... anyhow now that I have rambled for wayyyyy to long. TLDR: I like the name being Targi the expansion, its easy to understand.

[@MarioPBCSa]

Was that pandemic legacy season 0 in the mirror reflection?

[@Trevin_Taylor]

They sent out a promo puzzle.

[@Trevin_Taylor]

boom34z I had no idea the puzzle came in a bag. Unlike any puzzle I know.

[@jedilegolas9259]

Well assuming you meant the most chess like game THAT ISN'T CHESS lol, i'm going to have to guess onitama

[@melissaandivanstojanovic2471]

Fantastic summary and review of Targi! Now I want to get the expansion!

[@EmiZViolet]

13:52 My brain: "Ooo." So satisfying. Another great video.

[@anjovimusic]

I can imagine there being a video on the series of games that Yinsh is from. The second guess is Santorini.

[@Shenaldrac]

Oooh, I see Matt still makes a mean lunch egg.

[@Trevin_Taylor]

Hey, That’s My Fish!

[@aguyagirltheirgames4464]

When you outmaneuver with an illegal maneuver at 13:44. Well played Quinns, well played...

[@giin97]

Nice. Honestly though? Your review of Western Empires captivated me. That game sounds absolutely fantastic. Any more games of a similar vein you can recommend? Specifically elements like it being a longer game, group of people, multiple paths to victory, all playing at once, even the separation to the point where you might not realize what's been going on over the last hour on the other side of the board? Obviously if I want all of those at once I'll go grab WE, but I was curious of any similar games you would also recommend.

[@박찬우-q5m]

Watch their plays of a MegaGame 'Watch the Skies'.

[@TigerVent]

American game: fight directly! (Beat mum to death!) Euro game: fight in-directly! (Starve mum to death!) And trash talk your opponent! It's fun family time for all! LOL "Don't get salty!" 3:15

[@jlnfrl]

Love the Tinariwen shout out, great band to see live, someday

[@ginsbu]

Targi is brilliant! (Concordia is too, but it needs a smaller map from one of the expansions to shine at 2p.)

[@wsiegel9539]

I love Targi and have been waiting for the US English version of "The Expansion" to be released.

[@MrJames3824]

love the mention of Tinariwen! big recommendation :)

[@rortegamarin]

Weird to only mention Troyes as a joke with the expansion's name and not in the similar games list at the end of the video as well. It fits right into the whole accessible euro, nice theme and great with 2p thing. It even has the 'less obvious winner' mechanic. I'd even argue it's much better than Istanbul (and maybe Concordia) at 2 player count!

[@scottdarrington6009]

I tried out Targi at a board game cafe after you mentioned it on a podcast ages ago, and I have adored it since. It really is such a lovely, tight little thing.

[@zackeman]

8

[@JohnMcSmith]

Oh hey I love Targi and have been waiting a long time for the English expansion to be released outside of Germany. Just pre-ordered!

[@Aaackermann]

What a sneaky move NOT to take the king! Only the best of chessplayers do so! ;-)

[@monslenomer]

That was a real power play.

[@berttrobaugh6494]

Well, the king was already checkmated, so it could only be a powermove.

[@TuberTugger]

@@berttrobaugh6494 Was he? That pawn looked unprotected.

[@ramonavancelives]

Rest assured, we will not be content until Hundreds of Horses receives a video review, nay, an entire month dedicated in its honor.

[@AhJong0]

Love these themed months - great idea. Hope the “tackle the classics” months continue 🙂

[@aerosailor1979]

I just keep waiting for my expansion to ship from Amazon here in the US, got pushed back again to mid-August, can't get here soon enough... Been playing Targi for years, it is just that good...

[@iamflow2111]

I don't own a lot of boardgames, but I have both Targi and the expansion and i conpletely agree with this review. I think next week is either Santorini or Kamisado. Love both, can't wait to see what it actually is.

[@StefanLopuszanski]

Oh weird... I was just watching The Dice Tower's review of this yesterday and checking it out to suggest to a non-gamer who is looking to play a 2-player game with her husband. I ended up suggesting some other ones (Lost Cities, 7 Wonders: Duel, Ticket to Ride: Nordic Countries), but this was close to making the list.

[@brandondraheim3149]

Hundreds of Horses staring at me the whole time lol. Grand review :)

[@freierfieserfriese]

In German the expansion is called targia. With are the women of that "tribe" ( sorry, not sure what would be correct.)

[@JayTohab]

I normally avoid euro games, but you’ve piqued my curiosity with this one.

[@3v1lp1ngv1n]

the most chess like board game would be shogi right?

[@diecobros1452]

close, but actually xiangqi

[@eligra]

Didn't it also turn out that the tuareg (or some tribes at least) still practice slavery? I seem to remember something about WV being embarresed by that.

[@catherinetaylor2014]

This may be the first SU&SD review of a game I already own 😁

[@Notester82]

9:42 Noice Videoball sweater!

[@Elucidarian]

Um, so, anybody else noticing the close captioning between @6:30 and 6:35. Ah, technology. How much less you will entertain us the more reliable you become.

[@MrDarrylR]

The MOST chess-like should of course be a chess variant like Knightmare Chess or Paco Sako. On the other hand, SU&SD have yet to do a video review of Twilight Struggle.

[@TheTheMoran]

Got to be Onitama coming up, right?

[@DanielCornerthe]

Nice jab at Vital haha. Honestly I feel so taxed playing his games. However, putting the solo game of The Gallerist on the table as a multi-day solo game, it was quite the fun puzzle to play with.

[@Chaseosa]

Chesslike one is going to be Tak

[@blueberry1874]

"I studied wing chun kung fu" lmao quins

[@vintersphrost]

3:15 don't you put that white meeple on a corner! Only edges allowed...

[@joshamalistandi4902]

Tak: A Beautiful Game? Tell me it's, Tak!

[@indianajon7980]

I'd love to see a proper review of the royal game of Ur, see your take on it. Great video as always but what was the horses game in the background?

[@henriwhitehead]

Great review. I would have never paid any attention to that game otherwise, but it looks perfect for our family.

[@SephonDK]

Give the poor Englishman a biscuit

[@_malprivate2543]

Why is this British person drinking traitor juice (otherwise known as coffee)?! Does the Queen know? 2020 sure has brought terror upon the world!