Tariq Ali - The rotten heart of Europe

[@pearlchang3328]

WOW! He gave this talk ten years ago? What a genius!

[@Rotebuehl1]

Why??? Because it was ten years ago?????

[@kevingiblin4122]

This man is a genius the true Scholar if only more people listen to him if only more people could listen to him the world will be a better place❤😅😊

[@evag.asante8698]

This talk could have been delivered today, it’s so relevant and so perfect for now. So educational.

[@MR-dm1gx]

This is why we are here now, in this mess. The elites of nothing oppressing population even more.

[@hs961]

I was just thinking that!! This is insane. This was uploaded 10 years ago!

[@gerdurpalmadottir3225]

Today has been on the global power agenda for decades, we were just willingly blind..and most of us still are

[@BAFREMAUXSOORMALLY]

Quite remarkable and unique! I never appreciated Tariq's Communist or Marxist views ,but I am finding out how right he is about so many issues! THANKS BAFS

[@Rotebuehl1]

One thing is analizing, another is proposing! His "solutions" are inacceptable, to say the least

[@KP-uc1ez]

His analysis of those issues is a 'marxist' analysis........... Idk if you know what marxism actually is. Not that I blame anyone for that at all. Particularly in the Western nations.

[@pendlelancashire]

*Very powerful brave intelligent articulate academic. Deeply inspirational.*

[@charlotteburns7143]

It's so great to hear the truth when we're lied to so much.

[@DimitarBerberu]

10 years later & we get the biggest Western propaganda (bias/lies), eg. Ukraine'S proxy war between the US (WEST) & Russia (EAST)

[@cheri238]

A speaker I always listened to .for years. ❤️ Thank you àlways Tariq Ali.

[@CheekyNonconformist]

Thanks for posting this!

[@northernsoul3485]

The guy at the end is so full of soul, a great speaker and singer. God help us all to be able to see the light🙏

[@robertrichard6107]

Still very relevant dissertation.

[@wayneanderson6370]

Ali, we need more of you. You're great teacher, great presentation.

[@pendlelancashire]

*wow he was so correct*

[@Yourismouter]

great chat! Tariq Ali needs to do a whole book on the dark side of the EU both their faux socialism at home and their imperialism abroad. I'm an EU left reformer but i'm understanding more and more why a Lexit happened in the UK and why more nations should follow suit if the EU is hopelessly unreformable

[@kwakkers68]

Looking at social media suggests a considerable overlap between 'FBPE' hashtags and New Labour supporters - all of whom commonly overlook the many negative facets of 'Europe'. Not least the horrific police brutality in Paris, Catalonia; nor the corruption which underpinned the destruction of Greece. The Euro, a stroke of genius for those that benefited - principally Germany, and France; but the reality for less robust nations is clear. As Hudson pointed out, the relationship between sovereign nations and debt is rooted in their capability to print (digitally create) money. Gifting that power to a monolithic entity is both dangerous, and ludicrous. (as is general government policy which sees wisdom in 'borrowing' from banks - which is a great illustration of just how deep corruption runs in most Western states)

[@eva4adam451]

Great mind. Thxx. Left is destroying Europe. Since 30 years the imperialism is going east to west.

[@dennisyoung7363]

Socialism is necessarily dark. It is a govt monopoly over everything, especially power. And they wonder why millions die under socialism.

[@fun_ghoul]

@@eva4adam451 Stop drinking Lysol.

[@fun_ghoul]

@@dennisyoung7363 Oh...not like capitalist governments. Your intellect makes fleas pity you.

[@SKW-12]

What seems to emerge for me from the historical review, and his assessment of the effects of what is wrong - is not to point at this or that system as the demon or the savior - but - to identify that systems fail when abused by corrupt actors. Until corruption is thoroughly dealt with, no system is better or worse - because they all fail on this pivotal point.

[@michaelbunner7387]

That is true but for some reason capitalism seems to be the worst,I'm not authoritarian state type communism but the right type of socialism is the answer .benifit all the same not wealth for 1 and a million in abject poverty

[@fun_ghoul]

@@michaelbunner7387 Stop using words you don't understand.

[@greengalaxy8873]

No system is intrinsically just or unjust, fair or unfair. Moral intervention is continually needed to keep the system fair.

[@lauras1878]

@@michaelbunner7387 listen to someone from East Europe about socialism and think twice after that..... Socialism failed the entire Easter block, why do you think? Because was good? No way it failed, it is the system thought on the surface without going into the essence of the process. Deep down into the application of socialism it's in fact an extremely totalitarian dictatorship, otherwise it's not working the way they talk about it. Stop dreaming about socialism because all these false prophets who talk about it have no clue how it works and how is to be implemented, not talking about the fact they didn't even live in it. What they call those good points, they would not work without the bad ones that were much more than the good ones. One more thing: in capitalism the patron gets richer and also the employee gets rich, while in socialism the patron (state) owns everything and employee gets poorer doesn't matter how hard is trying..... Plus all it's basic rights are suspended forever. This guy is an absolute imbecile-idiot, and this is coming from someone who lived and grow up in socialism, half of my life.

[@brettg9481]

lol If only Tariq could teach all the children.

[@yaniraorellana4756]

October 2022. Opening our eyes to the big delusion.

[@Major.Seventh]

Why isn't this taught everywhere?

[@thevillageidiot5864]

Because it goes completely against what states want people to believe

[@kanuarhossain4084]

There was a great pleasure that Mr Ali ,the great think tank set foot in Calcutta.

[@mmendi1114]

The new generation ...one can only hope, but considering the influential forces such as the media that affect this new generations lives and mentality I feel a little pessimistic about the change that they will bring...

[@lisaharrison4506]

the only way to abolish this system is the people them selves and do see a time when this will happen all empires fall

[@pete9934]

It’s a big club and you and I are not invited

[@fatumaadam3067]

Indeed, George Carlin was right

[@hennavanopstal1979]

🙏🤲💪thank you Tariq Ali ❤️

[@majidaouladlhaj2266]

Old dictators of Europa were at least frank.

[@DonGonzalito]

All he says is true.

[@sic_transit_gloria_mundi]

Well, Tariq Ali doesn't have to worry anymore. The battleship Britain has sailed away from the EU on a journey to Pakistan and other former colonies ("Commonwealth"). Bon voyage! In the meantime the rest of us eat popcorn watching the hilarious comedy going on in Westminster.

[@2msvalkyrie529]

The EU. . ? Like the Austro Hungarian Empire it becomes every year more useless and less democratic. Thankfully Sweden , Italy ,Hungary and Poland will eventually bring the whole rotten edifice tumbling down.

[@jmccullough662]

You don't have time for eating popcorn. Complacency will no longer cut it.

[@tylerlynch2849]

Excellent talk

[@sakinapereira7895]

Very interested to hear history from some one living historian .thank you so much for shairing u r great gift of knoledge .

[@rahmit47]

Amazing reality check!

[@YuhtupAKKaunt]

Lowkey brought me here..

[@Unprotected1232]

But if a grexit occurs, won't the German and French banks who own Greek bonds will desperately try to get rid of it alongside the Italian and Irish stuff as well. And before you know it, the bonds lose value, someone shouts fire and clogs the exit.

[@timothygrayson]

First and foremost Tariq is a humanitarian and man of compassion. If he is a communist God bless him. For he obeys the teachings of Christ. 😊

[@rickolsonmusic]

Thanks

[@Sky-hz1cc]

TY for posting, so rich in ideas and information. 10 years after Ali's lecture have proved his foresight accurate. Diverse compassionate economists such as Yanos Varoufakis and Pope Francis (research by papal university) have concluded Capitalism does not address the needs of the populaces nor the options for preserving the vast varieties of life on our planet. The Chinese currently have a highbred economic system of socialism, meritocracy and marketplace. Embedded in their constitution is the elimination of poverty. Seems like a good starting place to model.

[@kwakkers68]

Interesting post. It does seem that the West is meeting with a paradoxical ending - Capitalism, which its rampant, bloodthirsty imperialism has been driven by, is incapable of sustaining its elites, their power. It is evident, the longevity of a state, its interests, are ultimately tied to that of the populous. We're already seeing Capitalists traditional response to threat - attempting to draw populations towards the Far-Right, far wrong, with elements such as the NF in France drawing on Left ideas to bolster their draw; whilst Trump critiqued 'establishment power', whilst in reality servicing Wall Street and co. It's difficult to be optimistic. Apathy and ignorance tend to be high across Western states' voters, but there are drivers for fundamental change too - - ridiculous student debt - corporate inroads into Health services - heating bills - general revulsion in criminal wars - cynicism of both the political and media world But for all that, the Privatisation of elections admin, and the establishments near total grip on mainstream parties, who can run, who gets support, discourse, points to a very, very dark future.

[@nickjohnparker1]

Some things are more important than a smoothly running state. One of these is human freedom. Freedom is actually the main thing that makes us human. This is because freedom is always allied with responsibility. Any state that reduces freedom and responsibility in its citizens also reduces their humanity. China in some provinces is in the process of doing this. People living under this social credit mass surveillance system will rapidly devolve into sub human slaves. This is the inevitable result of this kind of totalitarianism. It's not possible for nation states to be harmonious and smooth running because of the fundamental nature of human beings. We are cunning, deceptive, fight loving, contentious, ruthless survivalists at heart. If you don't know this about yourself , then you have lived a very sheltered life and I reccomend you go and live in the nearest slum area in your city for awhile. If you survive physically , you will certainly change mentally. Real human nature is a beautiful thing and is seen more clearly in those living on the edge.

[@justj8565]

@@nickjohnparker1 - You say "we are cunning, deceptive, fight loving, contentious, ruthless survivalists because of fundamental nature of human beings" .... We can also be caring, loving, sharing, charitable, kind, generous and all other virtuous human characteristics. If these were the criteria we measured success of a human being and our societies and recognised that a society where we practiced and promoted our 'better, humane characteristics' would be to the good for the majority then there would not be any reason to use the negative, base 'fundamental characteristics' of human beings. This may not be a society with a handful of very rich people, a less materialistic society but will be a society where those in need are looked after and leading to happier and more content communities and countries. I believe if we use our less base 'fundamental nature' and use our 'better natures' to care and share with all then us as individuals will move away from our 'base characteristics' and have a better and more fulfilling life!

[@786humaira1]

10 yrs ago Tariq Ali said : War IN AFGHANISTAN UN WINNABLE . How right he was .

[@abdelhamid41s]

Thank you

[@damienflinter4585]

Knowledge + wisdom articulated.

[@Genocide2024]

10 years ago if that heart was rotten it must be stinking now.

[@barbaralauderdale5963]

The Heart could not be Rotten, for in order for it to do so, you Must Have One! I have not observed One!

[@seanog34]

devaluation is what greece needs tariq says...like spain, like portugal...devaluation of its currency i imagine....

[@mosespendenque455]

By by bv Not w me on.

[@cherrybell2995]

I don't want to see currency disappear because electronic controls are to controlling and can easily be shut off .and leaving. Most vulnerable at the mercy of the dominant powers that be.

[@fun_ghoul]

@@cherrybell2995 What do you think currency is? Lol

[@michaelattia2197]

What about the rotten heart of Asia Ali? Nice that you blast Europe while enjoying the benefits of living in Europe.

[@rahmit47]

"It does'nt matter"

[@edmumdtan2278]

Ali's10-years-old, heart-breaking narrative, in a nutshell, humanity itself is the cause. We humans all have to be good, nothing else but good. Then we can have heaven on Planet Earth. Seems aliens/UFOs are only able to do the job. It is not a hard job for humans but we won't..........

[@minhng7208]

Civic liberty gets taken away partly due to the bureaucracy (which Samin Amir defines as bourgeoisie oppresssion within socialism), partly due to the constant sabotage effort by the fifth column and anti socialism forces supported by outsiders.

[@PuruShothama-i7z]

Europeans colonized all continents, made new borderd. Looted wealth of those countries. Congo, india are good examples. The europeans drank ocean of blood of africa.

[@DaaviKuparitanner]

Africans slaved other africans way before europeans came, and then sold those captured africans to europeans. Colonialism has happened on every continent without or with the help of europeans. Read world history.

[@marcel70marci72]

Bla bla bla in 2012 !! What you have to say now in 2022 -2023 ??? If you had more knowledge about europe countries economics, you may have second thought !!

[@bigbadwolf6256]

You call it kapitalisme I call it globalisme and communisme for that is what it realy is and that is the direction we are going.

[@hunkyhaggis2161]

Yes, good observation.

[@mikegray8776]

How can you “learn from the past” - as he promotes in opening this sermon - when your view on life and culture requires you to exclude or minimize any aspects which challenge your ideology. Tariq Ali has spent an entire lifetime searching feverishly for any fragments of history to fuel his consuming anti- western hatred. An intellect wasted through bitter ideology - whilst determinedly insisting upon living amongst people he despises, and in a country which he constantly reviles and criticises.

[@justj8565]

Don't you think recent history has shown the truth of what he is saying? Where did globalism, EU, chasing after cheap goods helped people, jobs in each country - Britain? Hardly any manufacturing left and when not everyone can or want to be highly educated and do jobs accordingly pile up on the unemployment heap, surviving on benefits as they do not have work they can do. Then you had more jobs disappearing as IT and Customer Service call centre jobs were shipped out abroad. Higher unemployment and further dependency on benefits and another group of people marginalised in society. Then firstly we were told that a handful of people partaking in terrorism were part of an ideology we must fight - Islam! But Islam had nothing to do with these terrorist just that they were followers of Islam but also misguided as Islam completely rejects and kind of violence towards innocent people. But the message that Islam was responsible for this terrorism was flashed daily on to our screens! And then we targeted certain countries like Iraq and Afghanistan and went to war with them. To what purpose? To kill millions of innocent people (ironically to a far greater degree than what those handful of terrorists killed), plunder and fill the coffers of the rich. How did this benefit the ordinary on the street? Did it make our streets safer? Or it just made politicians and the rich richer? So the 'war on terror' created even further terror and involved our governments in atrocious acts (imprisoning innocent people, involved in torture) lying to the people when telling us we needed to fear Iraq's weapons of mass destruction when none existed, attacked whole countries in pursuit of individuals (Osama bin Laden, Saddam Hussein) but was that really the aim as these people could have been taken out by other means not involving invading these countries or we were just being told that for governments to invade these countries for other reasons. Like getting free oil, mineral deposits from Afghanistan, like trying to enforce western ideology to them? How has all of this benefited the ordinary citizens? And now the war in Ukraine. Why is the emphasis not on negotiated for peace? Why are governments not calling for a ceasefire and then negotiating a long term peaceful solution? Why was the US involved in sabotaging the Nordstrom pipelines and blaming Russia. Why is there so much aid and weaponry being given to Ukraine when we are told we have to tighten out belts but our tax money is going to Ukraine. Why are NATO staff (or former NATO staff as the resign so that they can be sent to Ukraine) going to Ukraine as 'consultants' to help with the sophisticated weaponry Ukraine? Why are the actions of governments bent on prolonging the war? Why is their main concern not human lives but crushing Putin? Why sanctions against Russia when these sanctions are not hurting Russia but their own people in price rises and shortage of energy? Why continue with sanctions when it became obvious that these were not hurting Russia as Russia just found new markets for its gas but Europe faces a bleak winter as we are all warned that heating costs will double and treble, we are told to conserve and not use (if we can even afford it)? Surely, looking back does it not seem that the action of our governments does not appear to be in the best interest of all it's (or majority) of its population instead of making the rich even richer? Surely looking back you can see the truth of what Mr. Ali is saying? Who benefitted from invading Iraq? Afghanistan? Who benefitted to sinking to the levels that governments did by torturing random innocent individuals who happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time? Our governments cannot even take the moral high ground when they participated in even greater destruction, killing people in the millions, oppression and plunder than those people they said they were saving us from! Surely with hindsight can you not see that we are being lied to? We are being lied to so that we give our governments a free hand to go do what they want, when they want with our consent as we have been frightened into thinking it's them or us! Surely you can see how media reports just what we they need us to hear rather than reporting unbiased, both sides of a story? Why can't our governments concentrate its efforts in their own countries and let countries faraway concentrate on themselves?

[@SKforPeace]

The fact is, what this honorable man articulated in this forum setting is exactly what is playing out in the current affairs in Europe, and respectively the rest of the world 🌍. Those who claimed to be the torch bearer of Democracy are more and more turning out to be a hideous Wolf terrorizing nations after nations.

[@pablolowenstein1371]

Yes..he lives in a luxurious prison with no doors...I wonder why he suffers so?

[@fun_ghoul]

Change your name to Mike Hunt, goof.

[@Dhruv_Dogra]

He is a typical Muslim pretending to be Marxist/Leftist/socialist. The alliance of Islamofascism is strong and widespread. He hates Christianity but cannot attack it directly so he uses the route created by Marx.

[@lukebieniek9069]

I didn't click on this video. Just saying.

[@rotorque4254]

I remember Tariq Ali from 1960s. He was a little less confused then.

[@fun_ghoul]

And you're just as confused as then, at least.

[@DaaviKuparitanner]

Yeah. 20/20 hindsight... Dude is from Pakistan which is, and have always been, dogshht country...

[@ahmedandalous2878]

*43/😽;)*

[@pablolowenstein1371]

As opposed to those towering bastions of freedom, equality, democracy and human rights, Africa , Asia and South America Tariq?...envy and bitterness are never attractive. I wonder why so many from those continents claw their way over land and sea to experience this 'rotten heart' given the wonderful alternatives. Everything this man has...has been provided by the West...look in the mirror Ali....there's your rotten heart.

[@robbiewizz658]

How backward and simpleton a comment .

[@fun_ghoul]

You're blaming people whose nations have been pillaged for centuries by EUROPE, up to this very day, for their own plight. Quelled surprise. {yawn}

[@hunkyhaggis2161]

@@fun_ghoul Like banning slavery, giving blacks a written language, the wheel, plumbing, two-story buildings? Double yawn.

[@davidparry5310]

@@hunkyhaggis2161 'Banning slavery' Having institutionalised it and practiced and benefitted from it to a degree unprecedented on the part of any people in the world.

[@NavidKhan84]

Where did the west loot their wealth from *ickhead?