Rogue One Director Gareth Edwards explains how ILM got Peter Cushing's face to work as Grand Moff Tarkin.
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@MentalParadoxАй бұрын
Hearing 2016 being referred to as "back then" makes me feel a billion years old EDIT: a lot of people are posting angry comments at me, calling me "very young", and generally completely misunderstanding what I mean. What I mean is that if you're a younger Gen Z guy, then 2016 could be when you were 8 and now you're 16. That feels like a big difference, so you use words like "back then". But I'm 34 and for me 2016 feels like literally yesterday because I was 26.
@autumn702Ай бұрын
2016 was only like thre- fou- no wait... EIGHT years ago??
@Satellaview1889Ай бұрын
@@autumn702 Gosh I never thought time would pass this fast when I was 10 and I watched Rouge One in theaters.
@darkamora5123Ай бұрын
@autumn702 6 year old me saw ANH the Sunday after it released. My family went out to the movies every 3 weeks or so, and we looked in the paper for what was playing. I was a Star Trek fan as was my older brother and so my parents thought "Probably similar", based on the name. So off we went and I've been a fan ever since. Anyway seeing 8 years ago referred to as "back then" makes me feel like seeing the originals in theaters is tantamount to viewing the birth of the universe. "So dad, what is God's first name? I mean you two hung out way back then right? "
@MentalParadoxАй бұрын
@@Satellaview1889 You're 18 right now? All I can, say is: enjoy. These are the good times.
@autumn702Ай бұрын
@@Satellaview1889I've seen Rogue One, but I don't know what Rouge One is.
@andrewglazebrook1585Ай бұрын
They should have included Tarkin purely as a Hologram, to help hide the problems with his look. He could have been on Coruscant and meant to be en-route to the Death Star
@JustWasted3HoursHereАй бұрын
Hey, never thought of that. That's actually a great idea.
@AaaBbb-ff1pnАй бұрын
too smart for modern director/screenwriter
@YsckemiaАй бұрын
this makes SO. MUCH. SENSE.
@GagnesterLOLАй бұрын
How you are suppose to improve things without doing it... Somedays, we will not see the difference
@KasumiRINAАй бұрын
Nah, I liked the render. It's Star Wars, it always had mannequins, mattes and CG special effects. Hell Empire Strikes back hologram of Palatine was hideous in original. Cardboard mask?
@jeffreyokun2355Ай бұрын
The uncanny valley happens because of the motion of the face. It moves too smooth and cgi like. Motion is one of the easiest way to spot cgi.
@billbill6094Ай бұрын
Yup. Plush while stretch and squish is important to get the feeling of skin movement, not everything needs to stretch so visibly. Sometimes when people talk, you can barely see any motion at all in their face, sometimes people's lips stay in such a stoic position they would've impossible to lip read. They considered what's there when a face moves, but didn't consider what's sometimes not there and it makes it look like an animatronic.
@FactsDontCareAboutFeelings_97Ай бұрын
@@billbill6094agreed, to me it looks as if they made the CG Tarken express/emote too much. There’s just too much facial movement going on.
@FactsDontCareAboutFeelings_97Ай бұрын
Tarkin*
@sergeantbigmacАй бұрын
Mouth movement is always the dead giveaway for me. No matter how much the tech has advanced the moment the CGI characters start speaking the illusion is broken.
@thecianinatorАй бұрын
The worst part is, it's totally possible to insert wiggle key frames that mimic the randomness of real motion, the only reason they don't is because it makes it impossible to reanimate a scene. And the only reason that's a deal breaker is because it means producers can't change their mind at the last minute. If producers actually did their job and committed to an idea, this problem wouldn't exist.
@The.Nasty.Ай бұрын
That’s actually really interesting, not just that the face and voice come into play for a character, but even the LIGHTING can be important to achieve the correct “look” for a specific person… Never really considered that before!
@CarloTeofiloАй бұрын
A lot of mental gymnastics but it still looks bad
@The.Nasty.Ай бұрын
@@CarloTeofilo there’s really no mental gymnastics… the CGI looking bad and lighting being important to realize a “look” are two different conversations. I never said Tarkin looked great did I? 😂
@CarloTeofiloАй бұрын
@@The.Nasty. Fair 😅
@platzhalter2581Ай бұрын
Plus the template actor was really bad. So it looks also uncanny because of his acting, making it overly cartoonish.
@captaincaptain2128Ай бұрын
Sounds more like an excuse. Lighting really isn't THAT important for character recognition. Indiana Jones is still Indiana Jones regardless of lighting. So is Spider-Man. So is Gandalf, or Darth Vader. He just can't accept the cgi was bad.
@AWESOMEPRO-xu4itАй бұрын
Rogue One made Tarkin look like the G-Man from Half Life.
@supermansdaddy7019Ай бұрын
Rise and shine, Mr. Vader...
@kekekeke2200Ай бұрын
@@supermansdaddy7019the first thing I thought of when reading the comment is that one good horror map that scared the crap out of PewDiePie with the gman
@patriotfreedomlending4655Күн бұрын
This guy already has problems controlling his own hands, who thought he could fix other problems?
@lars728220 сағат бұрын
Rogue One made the whole Star Wars story and world look and feel like just a videogame
@jacktoma21Ай бұрын
Guy Henry already looks so close to Peter Cushing, which is obviously why he was hired, they could have just aged him up and I don’t think anyone would have been upset
@dcflake5645Ай бұрын
Guy Herny in a bit of make up would be the perfect double for Cushing
@jordanmitchell380Ай бұрын
@@dcflake5645 Like what they did with the actor for Dr. Loomis in Halloween Kills.
@blakeperdue3706Ай бұрын
it's star wars, people would have definitely been upset 😂
@EpicVideos2Ай бұрын
The reason to do this was two fold. 1) it got people talking, which is great for marketing. 2) it allowed them to practice their CGI techniques in the real world, which would prove invaluable with their later movies
@thompsonnoelАй бұрын
He looks exactly like Mark Rylance
@jgriffin9084Ай бұрын
They should have kept him in the reflection. It was totally believable until he turned around.
@LorenzoDoesntExistАй бұрын
If people keep aiming for CGI characters to be obscured, when does the technology ever evolve? They tried their best for a full-on CGI supporting character, it looks off because of how used to Peter Cushing in A New Hope we are, but it's still a technical step forward. Edit: If you're thinking of arguing, just watch the full video, they discuss it in more nuance. There's no point repeating the same three arguments about how it "looks bad." Yeah, you'll get brownie points online, but it's not constructive. It's so easy to just discredit or dismiss something without context, but if you're not familiar with Gareth Edwards, even if you don't like this shot, you should learn more about how he approaches VFX.
@professorx3060Ай бұрын
@@LorenzoDoesntExist A lot of people prefer appeal rather than progress
@moddable6921Ай бұрын
I hate this take because it was never going to be fully "believable", you already knew Cushing was dead and there was no way it was going to be him in the scene no matter what. So you should be grateful for what you got.
@LorenzoDoesntExistАй бұрын
@@professorx3060 Exactly. Their only understanding is that they did it on computers so anything is possible.
@StewartFletcherАй бұрын
@@moddable6921If it was never going to be believable, they shouldn't have done it
@ceruleanzone2041Ай бұрын
My Mother turned 80 in 2016. She was a huge Peter Cushing fan back in the era of Hammer and Holmes, so much that she used to send him pen and paper fan letters - and he wrote back! Though they never met, they exchanged letters once or twice a year for over 20 years. The VFX guys who worked on Rogue One got so much criticism for Tarkin, but my Mum will be grateful to them for the rest of her life. To her, those scenes were like magic because she got to see her old friend 'alive' on screen one more time. I wouldn't change that film for the world.
@mikek929724 күн бұрын
Most of those "critics" talking about uncanny valley are full of shit.
@Benjiesbeenbetter.16 күн бұрын
@mikek9297 Usually the uncanny valley hits me hard. I couldn't watch Puss in Boots because of the humans, but it didn't kick in here. The thing that got me was how shiny they made his face, and (very trivial point) Guy Henry forgot to pronounce the H in "when". If you listen carefully, on "You may fire when ready" Cushing did. I think he was one of the last Englishmen to do so. It's such a typically Peter Cushing thing that it stood out to me.
@joeyc9418Ай бұрын
The guy doing the performance capture already looked like Tarkin, the cgi is impressive but they probably could've just had that guy play him
@TelasiaDemetriaАй бұрын
It feels like movies have lost their faith in the audience's ability to suspend disbelief.
@joeyc9418Ай бұрын
@TelasiaDemetria also an absurd reverence for the originals, and this movie may have started the trend of resurrecting dead actors or putting dusty old seniors in a sequel where they do gun fu on a green screen
@jon4715Ай бұрын
@@TelasiaDemetriaExactly this. As a viewer, I am pleased to suspend disbelief when a movie give me reason. However, in this case, I’m disgusted by the cgi doubles of long-passed actors…it just doesn’t work philosophically or visually at all. I won’t suspend my disbelief for CGI, but I will for practical effects and actors.
@gordonbrinkmannАй бұрын
@@jon4715 You might suspend your disbelief for real actors, but I doubt most of the toxic fans would. Like the ones who hated Alden Ehrenreich as the younger Han Solo for example... people always complain when actors are changed, when roles are not cast with their personal favourite choice etc. or like in your case when they use CGI. They cannot satisfy everybody so they just go and make their own choices.
@MurderMostFowlАй бұрын
I could see that. I would be OK with it as long as they adequately gave time/dialog for us to realize that’s who he was playing. Up until the very end of this film. I thought that it actually took place a few years before ANH so I would have given it extra grace thinking they were portraying a younger Tarkin in the first place.
@billbill6094Ай бұрын
They also made him "look" old in such an exaggerated way it was like they were trying to replicate an age first then a likeness second. Tarkin was always old but all the liver spots and wrinkles were way too much.
@aaronsibleyАй бұрын
honestly, Guy Henry should have just played him. i think it would be easier to get over a recast than the uncanny valley of cgi Tarkin
@humancannonball3827Ай бұрын
This is how I feel exactly. Nobody watching is going to care that the actor isn’t Peter Cushing, but people like me will care a lot when they’re subjected to shoddy visual effects playing puppet with a dead man.
@KillahMateАй бұрын
The same applies to The Mandalorian. There was no need for all the CGI work, the actor was even incredibly visually close already. But Disney seems unable to trust their audience to take that tiny leap of faith.
@jgriffin9084Ай бұрын
Thaaaank you
@tylerhall9412Ай бұрын
I'd rather have cg tarkin still. especially because they can always do a re-release with updated CGI. 2024 cgi people look real as heck
@jamesb.russell2942Ай бұрын
Yeah like -- they recast Kenobi, they recast Mon Mothma. Guy Henry would've been a fine Tarkin.
@titans2720Ай бұрын
I feel like an issue with cgi is the “detail” is almost too crisp and clear, like when you see a humans face on film you don’t see all the small gritty little details on their faces unlike a cgi model which is sharp and noticeable.
@Samsstuff10Ай бұрын
it just looked like a good video game character. even when you pause it it doesn't look real
@daveyjones8969Ай бұрын
Thank you, I'm seeing nothing but shills here.
@jl.7739Ай бұрын
Don’t blame it on the tech. Bladerunner 2049 came out a year later and Rachel (cgi Sean Young) looked amazing. They probably didn’t give the animators enough time/ budget to perfect the effects.
@fullbodyscabАй бұрын
It’s because she didn’t talk. The mouth gives it away every time
@richardcollis5576Ай бұрын
Better planning
@kenrickeasonКүн бұрын
@@richardcollis5576Facts! People forget that you need to have great planning to get to the perfection you want.. You nailed it.
@jfess1911Ай бұрын
Tarkin's face didn't seem quite right but didn't bother me. Leia's on the other hand, did. For some reason, the re-created Leia did not look at all like the original. Is it generally considered that the Tarkin face replacement was more successful, or is it just that I look more closely at women's faces? I suspect that my once having a crush on Leia has a part in this (we were close to the same age when Star Wars came out).
@timthompson3569Ай бұрын
Tarkin didn't look real, but Cushing was already such a funny-looking guy that it didn't quite register the same. Whereas Leia in Rogue One was a horrible uncanny-valley photon golem. Her eyes in particular were just awful.
@HarmonicWaveАй бұрын
Tarkin's face looked overly detailed and sharp... while Leia looked the opposite, too smooth and fuzzy focus, like they used an airbrush tool too much.
@chrismoran2063Ай бұрын
Leia looked like a blob, completely unbelievable. Everything about her face was "off". At least Tarkin looked proper, if not 100% believable.
@kevinevans7507Ай бұрын
To me, the Leia looked like it was a choice that was halfway between SW:ANH and the cartoon Bratz doll effect.
@PhoboskomboaАй бұрын
I honestly don't see what people are talking about with Leia. Tarkin looked CGI to me, but if I hadn't known Leia wasn't a real person, I wouldn't have noticed.
@callofdookie1253Ай бұрын
I wanna see them break down Godzilla 2014 and compare it to the latest Monsterverse films
@Zygomatic_BoltАй бұрын
That's a good idea
@nicholas.alan85Ай бұрын
Godzilla 2014 looks newer (VFX wise) than the new monster verse films. Hot take
@Tvboy777Ай бұрын
Godzilla 2014 looks more realistic than the newer monster verse films, except maybe the Rodan volcano scene. But the action in the new movies keep getting more and more cartoonish and I think it actually hurts the cgi.
@chyaboi11Ай бұрын
@@Tvboy777Well, it's expected, considering what the monsterverse is and the kind of people Godzilla (and Kong) fight.
@natesmodelsdoodles5403Ай бұрын
For maximum pain, compare all of them to the minesweeper chase in Godzilla Minus 1. That one scene had some of the best effects I've ever seen, NGL
@Allegheny500Ай бұрын
When a girl friend, (not girlfriend) who is an older actress first saw this done in a theater, she told me it was not fair that a dead guy was getting better roles than she did.
@Obie.Ай бұрын
1) that’s not how casting works 2) that’s main character energy and will never get her cast 2) maybe that’s her sign to give up
@jojomang8333Ай бұрын
@@Obie....or it was just a humourous observation? Calm down lmao.
@beans4126Ай бұрын
@@Obie. or maybe she was just making a joke? (also you listed 2 twice)
@Satellaview1889Ай бұрын
@@beans4126 Clearly he's enlightened and realized that the number 3 doesn't actually exist, and all supposed instances of it occurring are really just 4 things with one of them obscured occasionally.
@totallylegityoutubeperson4170Ай бұрын
She is stunning and brave too, right?
@PhoticSneezeOneАй бұрын
They should release a remastered version of Tarkin´s scenes.
@Tvboy777Ай бұрын
Special edition DLC energy. Just let art be art.
@andyrobinson2653Ай бұрын
the deep fake one was actually better .
@bigguy1164Ай бұрын
It's important to remember that Peter Cushing would likely be thrilled by this. The man spent decades on the silver screen pushing the envelop. He was always up for something new. In 1977 he took a chance on some dinky little space opera called Star Wars, and unlike the other veteran actor he genuinely enjoyed his experience.
@ShockwaveFPSStudiosАй бұрын
Who’s the other veteran actor at the time?
@iana6713Ай бұрын
@@ShockwaveFPSStudios Sir Alec Guinness.
@ShockwaveFPSStudiosАй бұрын
@@iana6713 that’s what I figured
@HexensohnАй бұрын
Don't speak for a dead man just because Disney cut you a check. Or programmed you. Whichever.
@jamesmoniz526324 күн бұрын
I don't think thats important to remember. You can't just assume consent based on general vibes or because they like a genre of film. Not saying you can't think its ok to CGI people back to life, just this statement isn't how you justify it.
@rachelsmith7925Ай бұрын
I really dislike CGI, but in this case,I can forgive. No one can play Tarkin but Peter Cushing.
@jamesmoniz526324 күн бұрын
really funny, cause normally people say it the other way around when it comes to being salty about this. Something like "CGI is whatever, but bringing someone back to life so you can monetize their image isn't it chief"
@imperialadvisor4880Ай бұрын
I thought Rogue One’s recreation, voice acting and performance of the Iconic Imperial HERO , Grand Moff Tarkin, was rather sublime.
@FishfaceTheDestroyerАй бұрын
Hero?
@BrandonGavin_EDCАй бұрын
CGI and modern techniques are so cool when used correctly. Sometimes it’s all bloat but like the New Dune 2 is used to perfection.
@MurderMostFowlАй бұрын
In fairness, it was a bit hard to tell with all that “sand and smoke fog”. I thought that was a little overdone, but I agree in general
@chrismoran2063Ай бұрын
Listen. Was CGI Tarkin perfect? No. But the man died 22 YEARS prior, and yet there he IS, on screen. They did a phenomenal job.
@Kiwizs177Ай бұрын
True, yet people are always complaining. While there a work around a by having Tarkin as a hologram or just being mentioned it doesn’t have the same imposing effect. The biggest starwars haters are it’s fans. I fuckin hate it when fans think they can do something because 99.9999% of the time it’ll be worse. Rouge one is my favorite SW movie and it was portrayed great for the time.
@arch_caffАй бұрын
I’d say the CGI Leia doesn’t look as good because they held on that shot of her face for way too long with completely bright lighting. Tarkin worked because he was always kept in dimly lit scenes.
@KyrieFortune27 күн бұрын
No, he isn't on screen, a digital rendition of his head is on screen, and it's very obvious despite the likeness. If it was a videogame or a movie completely in CGI I would understand, but he, as other characters, sticks like a sore thumb in a movie full of real actors and their real faces.
@Lorentz_Driver21 күн бұрын
Not really
@jngobngoАй бұрын
That's great insight with the lighting
@likeluptidАй бұрын
They sure had me fooled. I went to the theater that day, with no knowledge at all of what "Rogue One" was. I never saw any trailers or heard any news or anything at all about it. I just happened to see the words "A Star Wars Story," and I bought a ticket, wondering what kind of movie it is. I didn't know if it was a comedy spoof of Star Wars or a documentary about the making of Star Wars, or what. Eventually, I began recognizing that it must be a movie about what they kept talking about in A New Hope. Then Wilfuff Tarkin showed up on screen, and I nearly fainted. And I said it out loud, "They told Peter Cushing had cancer!" I sat through the rest of the movie, mindless, staring at the screen like I had seen a ghost. I didn't comprehend anything I saw until Darty Vader showed up. I had to go back to the theater later, after I learned about how they were able to get a dead man a role in a movie.
@TheOutsider69Ай бұрын
My first instinct is to make fun of you for being so gullible but being mature is realizing how genuinely geeked I'd be if, for whatever reason, I didn't catch that it was CGI the first time I saw it and nobody else in the theater was reacting to the fact that long-dead Peter fucking Kushing just showed up in this modern ass movie...
@likeluptidАй бұрын
@@TheOutsider69 Your first instinct is to act like an immature kid, and you didn't mind admitting that?
@user-ub4pq9ci2rАй бұрын
@@likeluptidwell it takes some humility to admit it,
@tedbragg74Ай бұрын
Wayne Pygram did fantastic as Tarkin in voice, inflection and body language. It’s hard to not hear Scorpius talking, tho 😅
@totallylegityoutubeperson4170Ай бұрын
Pretty please with a cherry on top.
@dalecooper2232Ай бұрын
Pretty please!!!
@neatwheatАй бұрын
Maybe it's really that the subtle flexing of the muscpes around the mouth and the eyes are very hard to emmulate 😮
@davidholguin2532Ай бұрын
As a Movie Fanatic this is hands down still one of the coolest moments ive ever experienced sitting in a movie theater. (Thats why they went ahead and did it)
@patricklagerberg4387Ай бұрын
It was clearly cgi, but it wasn’t as bad as everyone says
@barnabasbaack1237Ай бұрын
Everything in the prequels was very clearly cgi but it doesn’t matter because when the writing is good and the story is interesting realism isn’t as important
@Morris_MinorАй бұрын
It was bad
@jackdoolittle165Ай бұрын
@Morris_Minor honestly for the first real use of that tech it looks really good. Granted any number of AI models would wipe the floor with it now, but at the time this was revolutionary
@mrb2349Ай бұрын
@@Morris_Minor it was photorealistic, the animation was a bit off.
@LCFC81Ай бұрын
@@barnabasbaack1237 so realism was super important for the prequels then.
@CrystalShannon713Ай бұрын
I dont know i think that unless thsy had the actor's permission to do this (like Mark Hamill for young Luke) they should just recast the role and fans would get it.
@PotrimpoАй бұрын
I still like the fact they already had a mould of Peter Cushing's face from the movie, Top Secret! (1984) as a template for the CG Tarkin.
@michaelutt4035Ай бұрын
Honestly I think they did pretty good even though you can tell it was CGI.
@FelttipfuzzywuzzyflyguyАй бұрын
With the tech they had, they did their absolute best and they should still be commended for it.
@efingsandalsАй бұрын
Nah
@normietwiceremovedАй бұрын
I just think a recast is best.
@tbgtabiasАй бұрын
na CG is fire when they actually spend the money to do it. like Luke in mando s2 was just bad but Leia and Tarkin in Rogue one was fire
@RayvenTheNightАй бұрын
The family actually helped with it to make sure they got the facial expressions right
@markcrenshaw9562Ай бұрын
It was a ground breaking achievement and it still has a long way to be perfect.
@EpicAdrian3DАй бұрын
I think it totally stands up no matter what people say. The performance is there, the voice is spot on, and i love it
@GigachadiusMaximusCaesarАй бұрын
Shouldve just haired and makeupd the guy acting the emulation
@WARTV-dn5fkАй бұрын
When I saw it at the cinema, my immediate reaction was they should have kept his entire performance in the reflection 😳
@syaoranli7869Ай бұрын
Here before the ep even dropped 😂
@matthewpollock9685Ай бұрын
I'm sorry, but at no point did any of us say, "Ah, that's Tarkin." That was a deep blemish in an otherwise decent film.
@hilaryc8648Ай бұрын
“A New Hope”. God give me strength.
@schaeferschaefer262428 күн бұрын
You don’t get Tarkin, Tarkin gets you.
@dennisjansson6239Ай бұрын
We got Peter Cushing, Carrie Fisher, Mark Hamill & Harrison Ford done in motion capture. I wonder if Christopher Lee is gonna get the same treatment when doing new scenes with Dooku in future Star Wars projects. Would love that. 💙
@danielmahon2432Ай бұрын
The best Star Wars Film Disney has attempted, even Lucas had kind words for the director after watching it.
@augustjschroederАй бұрын
I like how the actor they hired to play him looks EXACTLY like Tarkin. They could've probably just put him in makeup
@gerdvonbadhoven6240Ай бұрын
I was very surprised in a positive way. I was ten years old as I saw "The new hope" and to see Moff Tarkin again after all those years was awesome to me!!!!
@satriaeerlanggaАй бұрын
I prefer recast all day
@_theoriginalb4handles_GenflagАй бұрын
And it still looked like a crappy uncanny valley CGI puppet. Also, he was asked how he felt about animating the corpse of Peter Cushing, and he ignored it completely.
@btn237Ай бұрын
To be fair, the short edited clip you saw didn’t have him answering the question, doesn’t mean it wasn’t answered in the 4 hour long original interview?
@_theoriginalb4handles_GenflagАй бұрын
@@btn237 that is true, but all I have to do on is the clip. So he either didn't answer, as was presented, or he did and they didn't want to show his answer for some reason even though they used the question in the clip.
@averagemug_musicАй бұрын
There's a character named John Smith in the show called The Man In The High Castle. I think he would be perfect for being casted as Moff Tarkin, maybe a younger version though.
@marcus_ohreallyus5 күн бұрын
An example of how fast technology is moving. Gareth says "Back then", like it was decades ago -- but this movie is actually quite recent.
@comebackguy8892Ай бұрын
It's always so sad when youtubers go power hungry and betray their fans and platform.
@TheKrazyguy75Ай бұрын
?
@MrDwightSchruteАй бұрын
lol
@comebackguy8892Ай бұрын
@@TheKrazyguy75 They didn't include this in their video, and instead forced their viewers to pay extra to see it on their website. This is a bit bigger than merely "extended".
@TheRealMirCatАй бұрын
Gimme gimme gimme!!!
@TheKrazyguy75Ай бұрын
@@comebackguy8892 I don't see that as betraying their platform. Hell, it's basically what every twitch channel does these days; they use their youtube as marketing to get viewers on the platform they actually make money on. Without money, they couldn't release ANY videos.
@mikemarx9360Ай бұрын
Bro acting like cg isn't just... Not very good. It’s good, but not as good as it should've been. Not headsets and not lighting. Its materials and animation overall
@beigefedora9716Ай бұрын
i know its not perfect, but his little evil smirk at the end really sells it well
@skeetermcswagger0U812Ай бұрын
You've ever noticed if you block off one side of a face in a mirror or on a picture it looks completely different that than the other side of the face almost like it is a different person?
@OechseyАй бұрын
Tarkin still didn't work
@emanuelvela6097Ай бұрын
Man, I remember being unaware it was CGI back when this film came out. Now it’s as clear as night and day.
@gazzer2kukАй бұрын
It actually looked more realistic watching it in 3D at the cinema
@RatFiendHDАй бұрын
Skeeter Jean just seems like such a cool sociable funny person to be around, always bringing the humor out of any bad situation
@HyraxusPrimusАй бұрын
Even if it's slightly uncanny valley, I think it works for Tarkin. The guy's soulless and evil enough to unilaterally order the destruction of an entire planet, and that's something that gave even Darth Vader pause. He's probably the 2nd most villainous Star Wars character behind Palpatine himself (film wise).
@megatron8449Ай бұрын
Well, barring legends & current EU, but yeah
@HyraxusPrimusАй бұрын
@@megatron8449 Legends wouldn't be hard with the Yuuzhan Vong around. They make Sidious look downright cuddly. Canon makes Tarkin look even more evil, since he was made a cold authoritarian even in the Clone Wars. I'm struggling to think of anyone else who would be a contender.
@IRMentat29 күн бұрын
it reminded me of "the mummy" 1st one with the face in the sand, the bones and movements were too wobbly/mobile, the flesh was sunken and "look" drawn out despite the character supposed to be the same age (if not a little younger with less worries). it was impressive until it wasn't as it was just unreal enough to trigger the uncanny valley response.
@vardellsfolly5200Ай бұрын
That word, "until" insinuates that it did not work before, and it did afterwards.. The cgi was a monstrosity...
@ninebrassmonkeysАй бұрын
What full episode is this from? The thumbnail says full episode below, but… I can't find it, Am I being thick?
@protector_of_the_realmsАй бұрын
Imo they should have only shown him in shadows and reflections. Maybe hologram if you had to have him face a character too, but that would’ve created a much more ominous feeling that would’ve really worked whilst saving money and avoiding all the problems
@remipennel1217 күн бұрын
I remember the first time I watched this movie, I didn't even realize it was CGI, it wasn't until my friend told me when I re-watched it with him that I realized it wasn't the original actor (which makes sense now that I think about it, A New Hope was AGES ago).
@TheRafaelRamosАй бұрын
Also, the difference in the cameras is something to take in consideration. Older cameras have that grainy look that make the lightning look more "real".
@shadowtrooper262Ай бұрын
Okay hear me out, CGI Grand Moff Tarkin looked 96% convincing.
@ProbablyOkayАй бұрын
The actors they cast to paint over always look perfect to just play the roles themselves. I’m not a baby, I can handle a recast.
@thegoodgeneralАй бұрын
The biggest flaw of this Tarkin is that he doesn’t aspirate the “wh” in “you may fire *when* ready.”
@outregisАй бұрын
people trying to come up with solutions to "fix" it, reality is this is the best outcome as is. We've got the character looking practically the same, and the CGI reminds us that the actual actor had also passed away, and this is a pay homage to how iconic of a role he played.
@notwhoyouthink593Ай бұрын
Rogue One made me believe that Tarkin was from the Christmas Carol Planet
@AbelhawkАй бұрын
The most uncanny aspect was when he blinked.
@The_Wonders_of_Engineering7 күн бұрын
The actor already looked enough like Peter Cushing that they didn't even need cgi
@Roach_Dogg_JRАй бұрын
Part of the problem is taking looked like a cartoon character even in the originals. Very unique face shape perfectly suited to play a cold intimidating officer
@ChristophBrinkmannКүн бұрын
NGL, when I first saw Rogue One I thought they'd found an actor who looked liked Cushing to play Tarkin.
@adamb89Ай бұрын
"You may fire when ready." "Aw sweet, thanks! OK then, I'll catch you guys next week, I'm going to Atlantic City." "Wait wh-" "Bye!"
@MrTekillaDrunkАй бұрын
RIP Mr.Cushing...Hammer Movies Legend
@BaltimoreNishNosh27 күн бұрын
I was literally thinking that should have had you edit the footage of princess Leia!
@josephinman303720 күн бұрын
I like what Peter Jackson did on Lord of the Rings, they used miniatures and comparisons to make sure they didn't lose the complete immersive realism. Tarkin was a "settle" situation
@cartoonmark757 күн бұрын
They should’ve used that actor wearing the CG helmet. He looks just like Tarkin.
@epicgamesforyou3615Ай бұрын
No matter how hard they tried tarkin always had those dead fish eyes. It’s something that goes back to the polar express, there doesn’t seem to be any escaping it.
@iwatchstuff6786Ай бұрын
Right after adjusting the lighting, if he didn't say, "now we're Tarkin!" I'm gonna be so disappointed.
@L33tSkE3tАй бұрын
I think Wren asked a very different question than what he answered
@ZenGlennАй бұрын
Time & budget are definitely key, along with lighting & particular action nuances... A unique example is in 'The Flash', the CGI finale with superhero characters of 80s & 90s Superman were fairly solid; they were a sincerely CGI, but a strong effort that played quite well in the high contrast, brightly lit sci-fi world backdrop🎬.
@DarthTamarusАй бұрын
I don’t think the CGI in this scene is that bad. Yeah it’s not perfect but it’s not bad enough to be distracting. Major respect to Peter Cushing for his iconic portrayal of this character. RIP
@user-np4ev3cd5gАй бұрын
Honestly he looks great
@DanFlashes99Ай бұрын
sure, if looking like a PS4 character is "great"
@LeGrizzly66Ай бұрын
Way better than Leia at the end, but everyone gets stuck on Tarkin for some reason.
@brian0057Ай бұрын
Unironically, I'll take recasting the character over this digital necromancy any day. Make recasting great again.
@TheViper4LifeАй бұрын
It's going to be both exciting and kinda horrifying the moment that CGI like this gets so good that we can't tell it's CGI.
@wa1w511Ай бұрын
The only way I knew it was CGI for Tarkin was the fact that I knew the great vampire hunter had already passed.....great CGI.
@Arum638Ай бұрын
James Bond can get played by 7 different actors but a side character with 9 minutes total screen time requires thousands of man hours and hundreds of thousands of dollars to replicate a decades dead actor. MaKeS SeNsE To mE!
@aaronwoodcock4715Ай бұрын
My mom was baffled when she saw Tarkin in Rogue One.
@HowTo-kr5bxАй бұрын
When I saw Rogue One in the theater I was absolutely blown away, I didn't know Tarkin was supposed to be in the movie, and when I first saw him on screen I couldn't believe what I was watching. I thought it looked amazing then and I still think it looks amazing. I laugh when everyone says how bad it is. So, I did a little experiment. I showed one of the scenes where Tarkin was with a couple other actors to a few people who are not Star Wars fans, and who don't know who Peter Cushing is. I would pause the scene and ask them do you see anything odd? People would say no, then I'd point out that person there, that's a fake character, that's CGI. Every action was basically the same, that's amazing, it looks so real, etc. The only reason why anyone says anything negative is because everyone's always got to point out something negative, and of course everyone's an expert.
@ThislsaGoodldeaАй бұрын
This is a minute and a half of my life I’ll never get back
@arch_caffАй бұрын
The actor already fit the bill perfectly both in appearance and voice. They could’ve just given him some prosthetics or make-up and it would’ve looked great!
@jacksonreid7946Ай бұрын
Grand Moff Tarbin was my particular favourite and it would be sinister not to mention his willies tubular dubular floppery in the scene when Rudolph's drone 360's into Steve urwins haunted stingray barb and causes multiple caniptions in his caription Egyptian joint. This is of great importance as Queen nebulas booby smiles upon us all 🎉🎉🎉
@sebastianmahargАй бұрын
The most glaring error was making Tarkin inexplicably a foot taller in Rouge One.
@bigplanett25 күн бұрын
I'd be less worried about the lighting and more worried he looks like a cartoon. 😂
@jellymopАй бұрын
Tarkin will always be more intimating that Thrawn for me. Especially with the books and the new Ahsoka television series taken into account.