Tarmogoyf Is Now Busted In Commander?! | Modern Horizons 3 Commander Precon MTG Spoilers

Tomer breaks down the new Tarmogoyf-themed Graveyard Overdrive Modern Horizons 3 Commander precon!
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[@erikbraun473]

Tomer: the creature type even saw play in modern long ago. Richard: Am I a joke to you!?!?

[@DukeGusion]

Having listened to clash, I'd say the answer is yes

[@jaysonking4055]

It basically was a top 10 card until mh1 then became a fringe card

[@radiantburrito]

I find it interesting that Tomer is the first person I’ve seen that isn’t completely negative on this deck.

[@corllengatu]

It's a cool theme, but it's also built ... strangely.

[@dcrow9650]

Is not the best Precon, I find it lacking to be honest and I kinda upset by that...

[@eric4946]

Too many people are like why can’t this win on turn 4 or the mana base cast cryptic command or a Grixis commander turn 5 Its a precon lmao

[@gypsieking3280]

​@@eric4946i dont know, as precons go. If your face commanders theme is 'goyfs and there are around ten goyf cards, it seems to me you are trying to tread on nostalgia and not building a deck that is on the level with like the LCI precons.

[@_claymore]

I was interested in the theme - first commander precon in a while that had me really curious. new goyfs? new goyf synergy cards?? yes please! but nope.. none of that. barely any new goyfs at all, and no goyf-synergy cards to support the tribe either. instead a bunch of really weird nostalgia-bait inclusions that don't have anything to do with goyfs at all. the only saving grace for this deck is the upgrade & one-shot potential, as Tomer points out. but that's really not what I wanted to see from a precon.

[@kurowasanabe]

I wonder if anyone at the crew would be interested in playing Goyfs for Clash. They'd have to be huge Magic boomers though.

[@XYBatavus]

Sadly I don't think there's anyone from the crew that fits the discription of being a magic boomer and liking jund, particularly goyfs

[@corbinmills9335]

And certainly nobody that likes typal decks that break away from the norm.

[@henryjones8636]

What are you guys talking about? Doesn't - mmf! *muffled screaming*

[@howlovely9631]

Didnt Richard say he plays jund in modern?

[@jackl8025]

​@@howlovely9631 that's the joke 🤸🏾‍♂️🪩

[@hillnotting]

Would have been the perfect deck to reprint Tarmogoyf in…

[@KelScythe]

Yea and turn it into a 5 cent card 😂😂

[@charlied8284]

Why lol

[@hillnotting]

@@KelScythe isnt that the point of reprints? To make cards more accessible?

[@Genesis4119]

But they did it. As a token 😂

[@KelScythe]

@@hillnotting the card is very accessible if you have an internet connection and even more so if you have a printer. If you don't have either of those, go grab one from your lgs or draw it on one of those helper proxy cards you might have accumulated. And if you somehow cant manage to do any of those things, you can put one of the multiple tarmogoyf tokens they give you in a sleeve. Not that hard.

[@imaginarymatter]

Ach Hans! Run. It's the Llurgoyf precon!

[@Genesis4119]

Hans Eriksson precon when?

[@pancakeburglar9361]

I know some people are kind of down on this deck but I’m really excited for it. I think it’s more of a self mill graveyard value deck with a Lhurgoyf sub theme than a full on lhurgoyf kindred deck. Tarmogoyf should have been included though and the mana base is rough.

[@Boomymc]

Deck looks sweet, I love precons that come with multiple directions to take it, this is a precon that I can split into two new decks with some sensible upgrades. Good reprints, cool new cards, and unique new style.

[@Mulletdog1]

Coram is a sick jund graveyard commander. He gives you subtle consistency, which to me makes me think it will more then likely to stick around on the board

[@AshenLord.]

Crim, is that you?

[@Mulletdog1]

@@AshenLord. naaaaah

[@Silvermankitty]

cannot wait to hear richard's opinion on this deck XD

[@Shimatzu95]

I demand goyf tribal in a upcoming commander clash.

[@bryanstrahm9961]

I've already put together a coram deck and it's pretty cracked. Turn 3 buried alive to dump Anger, Brawn and Yargle, then Coram t4 for 18 commander damage

[@jameelkurabi]

That's dope. Do you have a full list? Was thinking of building Coram as well.

[@danieledemartin1550]

The yargle!!!!

[@kperk1]

guys we broke buried alive

[@bryanstrahm9961]

@kperk1 yes thank you I'm obviously the first person to ever accomplish this /s

[@bryanstrahm9961]

@jameelkurabi I've tried to comment it multiple times and I think it's being deleted, sorry friend

[@abzodolba473]

Regarding Disa's ability to reanimate lhurgoyf; It's not limited to only discard & mill. Stack is also considered "anywhere other than battlefield" 👀

[@hiddenleaf414]

So it psuedo makes your lhurgofys uncounterable?

[@abzodolba473]

@@hiddenleaf414 as long as countered and goes to grave, yes.

[@thesarcasticliberal]

I think that people are missing a KEY combo--Disa's effect triggers on any goyf, and so you can use Conspiracy/Maskwood Nexus to make it so that any creature you mill is automatically put into play. Add in Altar of Dementia, and you can self-mill to an OTK, either with Pyrogoyf/Terror of the Peaks or by eventually milling a Craterhoof).

[@tomerabramovici32]

That's true, and Maskwood Nexus is even in the precon

[@taylorjohnson5148]

Ashes of the fallen helps her ability go off like Maskwood nexus . I think that’s the name of the card

[@thenewlollipopjam8248]

Disa looks an awful lot like a changeling commander.

[@frankthomas2410]

I feel llike maskwood nexus and whatever fatties you want to cheat into play lol

[@shayneweyker]

Kind of but tribal tribal decks really only have room for changelings plus one other creature type and great payoffs for having lots of creatures of a type. If you also have to add in a consistent self-mill or self-discard spells and effects (and lose out on blue and white changelings) things are going to get clunky. I really like Rukarumel for Tribal Tribal.

[@stephenbradford8524]

Even with the reprints, there’s no way there’s enough Lhurgoyf density to make Disa’s first ability viable. Second ability seems super fun, though.

[@PopoTCG]

I mean a Maskwood Nexus and self-mill strategy sounds fun

[@victorbourguignon6897]

The first ability can currently be used for combos with things like voidmaw but yeah... Not a lot of lurghoyf to randomly get out of it.

[@victorbourguignon6897]

@@PopoTCG oh definitely, I can increase the potential of the ability a lot. Although be sure to protect disa as she will definitely be a target 🎯.

[@AshenLord.]

Cards like Conspiracy also help.

[@voidprism_studios666]

@@PopoTCG Yeah but if you dont have that or conspiracy I feel like the deck is not going to do what the commander wants 70% of the time unless you put all tutors to fetch those cards every time.

[@willbracken1827]

I'm going to watch this again to count how many times he calls me a boomer

[@FadedImage]

This is the one im getting. Played jund in modern and look back fondly on that time. Gonna sleeve this up as is for whenever im feeling nostalgic :)

[@danieldragotti2608]

No Cultivate kodma reach farseak or three visits ?

[@thegeardude]

Oh my god I just noticed that..

[@olcar7799]

True but there is like…only 8 basics in the deck…. Weird to say these ramp spells could be ‘’dead in hand’’

[@giovannishepard653]

Wait can we talk about that Hellkite? For 5 mana that thing 3 for 1's your opponents with a cast trigger and then etb's as an 11/11 with flying and trample. For 7 mana it's 6 for 2, 19/19, etc. Even in commander that seems like a wildly efficient card. Also it makes voltron players cry even more than they already do.

[@Dext3rM0rg4n]

I can't believe Tarmogoyf isn't included, it's a 10€ card on cardmarket atm so what's the reason ? I preorder all 4 deck and was really happy with the previous 3 (the simic one was WAY better than I expected) but this one is disapointing.

[@tombarr1241]

I don't think Tarmogoyf's exclusion had anything to do with it's price tag. The commander already makes Tarmogoyf tokens, so they probably didn't want to put the actual card in the deck. And Tarmogoyf really isn't all that great in EDH. For one more G they gave us a better EDH Tarmogoyf in Polygoyf

[@Chewy0836445]

It will probably be 1 of the 10 tokens

[@Dext3rM0rg4n]

@@tombarr1241 I agree it's not a good card but it's so iconic, and the theme of the deck is centered around it. I never played modern in paper and was excited to finally get a copy of the OG Goyf, I'm a bit heartbroken now.

[@hahahafunniness]

@@Dext3rM0rg4n then buy a copy lmao. People are funny sometimes

[@Dext3rM0rg4n]

@@hahahafunniness It's a disapointing precon if I need to buy the more emblematic card of the theme separately.

[@CouchtrollPodcastDS]

Most unique of the decks. Can’t wait to use it

[@porkbun2724]

I was at first thinking about getting this precon at first but now that I am seeing the lack of gyofs I am leaning more twords the simic one instead

[@Rayan01012]

Same. 9 goyfs in total in a deck that cares about goyfs. They didnt even reprint the OG taramagoyf

[@fka466]

Glad I’m not the only one. I had high hopes for this precon but it’s real lame. I was hoping to see a significant amount of new creatures. Not enough tribal support and the token generation is lame. Needs evasion of some sort I think.

[@hahahafunniness]

​@@fka466watch out, WotC thought police might come after you for using tribal!

[@Shimatzu95]

Honestly the simic one is probably the best one they printed in a while in terms of gutting it for other decks.

[@hahahafunniness]

Lol my comment got deleted for saying to be careful of WotC thought police for using the word tribal.

[@toms1782]

Coram, the undertaker is awesome... It isn't hard to get a power 18 or 16 card from your deck into your graveyard and get him out by turn 3 and then all you need it a instant target creature gets double power, or + 3 or something... to swing in for win. He makes a fantastic Voltron / recursion / don't miss land drops / card advantage type commander. OMG I can't wait!

[@quezer0]

Ironically we will feel weak when we say our farewells and rest in peace

[@_claymore]

Tomer are all those deckboxes behind you in the shelf actually fully built decks?? god damn that must be 20+ at least? would love to hear what commanders you got hidden there!

[@BicMitchum99]

Man, this deck reveal was a Richard hitpiece. Tomer going heavy in the paint on old Goyf early on.

[@Fr0gg3r86]

The concept of the commander is so fun and powerful, unfortunately the deck has to be rebuilt from the ground up. I went for Lhurgoyf tribal with all the possible creatures of that type + shapeshifters. Other mechanics that works well outside of self mill are loot and surveil, some cards I have seen being overlooked on EDHREC are the ones that let you time the moment in which a creature card enters the graveyard, like currency converter and mimic vat. On the loot side, also Matzalantli and geier reach sanitarium. For precise creature entombing, old stickfingers is very very good.

[@jackrosen1]

One reason to maybe play talisman's over normal sorcery ramp is that you want to keep your card types balanced so your goyfs get as big as possible. Probably niche with four players, but if you are mainly self-milling than it would probably at least balance out the percentage lost not optimizing ramp.

[@dam49365]

My problem with Coram is that almost all the cards you want in a Coram deck, is Black or Green, maybe if you only care about milling and then Attacking/ Flinging Coram the deck works. Otherwise its just a golgari deck with a sprinkle of red.

[@Chpow01]

Lhurgoyf is iconic. It's flavor text has been the source of many the early day funnies, Safi and Hans both were printed as legends later on, the dude getting nommed by the goyf is kinda funny looking, it was a beater back in the day as graveyard hate did not exist and it was just kinda fun. You can't really have a goyf deck without *the* goyf.

[@TMidander]

"For each opponent you control" Wait, let Tomer cook! :D

[@Tornven2003]

This one is refreshingly better than the eldrazi trash that many of us pre ordered for x3 more on the price tag than the decks actual financial and playability value lol

[@michaelsparks1571]

Reading Broodmate Tyrant and Broodmate Dragon side-by-side really does kinda highlight how strange the "comes into play" wording sounds after having "enters the battlefield" for so long.

[@shayneweyker]

Disa will be great with a bunch of efficient dredge creatures and the most efficient payoffs for having lots of stuff in your graveyard like Kessig Cagebreakers. Also play Maskwood Nexus so every creature you mill or discard reanimates. Play and discard-then-draw spells and Tortured Existence to synergize with dredge and Disa's trigger. Not a Lhurgoyf but maybe worth including: Revenant (flying, P/T=creatures in your graveyard) and Nighthowler (bestow creature with P/T=# of creatures in all graves). Finally, Lord of Extinction also has P/T equal to number of cards in graveyards, not what Tomer said.

[@nathanhowell9341]

Wheels seem sweet in this decl

[@JulioDRai]

Can Sawhorn Nemesis be blinked to have ALL opponents take double damage or does the "chosen player" get reset when it leaves the battlefield?

[@blemski]

When you exile something and return it to the battlefield it's technically a completely different permanent. So it will not know about any previously chosen opponent, cloneing it is a completely different story tho.

[@Ick_Sceptre]

Buried alive is broken in this deck. With Disa on the field, buried alive basically says "search your library for three goyfs and put them on the field." Insane

[@drocka36]

I have never felt so personally called out by tomer lmao. I dont even need this deck i basically already have it, but i like it!

[@kamuishr3]

I wish final act took all counters from all players, not just opponents. Seems like a good way to get rid of poison

[@bernabes8424]

I wonder if that guy I beat in 2016 with my budget Siege Rhino deck will turn his Foiled out Jund deck into a Commander deck. Hopes he's doing ok

[@MatthewSmith-qd6du]

Gonna need a lot of dice to play this one

[@danielvargas3793]

Coram is really cool mechanically, I just completely do not vibe at all with how he looks lol If I ever build him, it would be with proxy art of something else :v

[@taylorjohnson5148]

Building a deck around the second commander. CORAM seems a lot more fun

[@DracoMagna]

How much is it selling for?

[@williamsimkulet7832]

So Disa Changeling mill?

[@Quarrenn17]

This deck is a bit sad to me. I played a Lhurgoyf tribal deck in a tournament on Magic Online where everyone had to meet certain deck building restrictions and we were playing legacy. It was so fun. I had to be careful what cards I put in to try to get a good combination of creatures, Mill, and card types (we had to have at a minimum 20 cards of our tribe in the decks), and when I saw this commander spoiled at first I was so hyped thinking I could bring that deck over to EDH in some form, but this doesn’t rly feel like enough for it to be as good as it was there… Fringe tribal decks are just so hard to get to work in EDH compared to other formats, that’s probably the biggest complaint I have with singleton formats.

[@marshallscot]

Tribal errata'd into Kindred ☹️

[@as95ms98]

Between the "Eldrazi Unbound" Precon and this one, it seems like WotC is making Kindred precons, but not actually putting enough of the kindred creature into the decks. Seems like you're going to have to take a lot out of this deck and replace cards with changelings in order to make it a true Llurgoyph Kindred deck. Was hoping for more Llurgoyphs in the new cards and not just a random dragon and dinosaur that are very off-theme.

[@Shimatzu95]

Was thinking the same with the sliver deck. Among the new cards i belive 4 were generic tribal stuff, made me verry sad.

[@bendysbrother7447]

This deck never advertised as a goyf deck though, its a self-mill graveyard deck, that just has goyfs as it's payoff. I understand the dissapointment to a degree, but its not like the deck ever said it would focuse on goyfs, everyone just assumed that because of the commander's abilities.

[@worldmedic3187]

This one isn't super unique but boy is it strong. I don't have a jund commander currently; this deck will change that.

[@Y00bi]

Also, regular ass Lhurgoyf is... uh, fine? It's good in the deck. It represents a very high power threat. Deck does need more ways to fling things at you though I feel.

[@JacobBos1988]

This would've been my favorite commander of all time if Disa had a Blue mana pip somewhere on the card.

[@Buchaus]

Sucks that you can't run Urborg Lhurgoyf in the deck because of it's kicker cost 😭

[@Shimatzu95]

​@@Buchausrule0 if you have a consistent playgroup, cant immage anyone complaining

[@Y00bi]

I mean, Final Act is absolutely Black Farewell. It's terrible, but it's still Black Farewell.

[@tutudsquishbo8381]

In modern long ago A diss to the card and my old self

[@Knightfall8]

If modern goyf players are boomer players, then I must be old as dust (I still remember walking to the local shop when I was a kid to pick up packs of Fallen Empires when it first came out)

[@jean-baptistedelabroise5391]

Isn't lord of extunction power 0 while in graveyard?

[@TwistedNsanity]

* stats are calculated correctly in the grave

[@TripsAhoy]

Goyf Tribal! ❤❤❤

[@NoctisVigil]

New life goal: cast Tempt with Mayhem targeting Tempt with Discovery.

[@edvinehn9918]

Dosn't final act remove Poison counters from players? 25:10

[@tomerabramovici32]

Yes, but only your opponents' counters. You can use that as political leverage but it's not going to save yourself from poison.

[@SupremeMan249]

I feel like these decks could have pushed some more for the reprints but at the same time I will say that these decks all seem to have a better mana base to work off of and have a bright future with their ability to be upgraded a lot easier than some other precons.

[@peeporiot9948]

The simic deck had insane reprints which makes the lack in others kinda weird

[@SupremeMan249]

@@peeporiot9948 Yeah the simic one felt like a sleeper to me. I didnt preorder it since I had a fear that it was going to be kinda a let down. But now I think I will get some of the cards inside it cause those lands seem fun and the commander just seems interesting.

[@emanueleragazzi341]

I'mma be doing a Drinking Game where I take a shot after every time he says Goyf

[@LucasCotrim19]

Why does the editor put a secret lair version of the card WHENEVER POSSIBLE if it's not the version included in the commander precon? Just because they can? To remind people to buy more secret lairs? To make it as unreadable as possible? Why?

[@TwistedNsanity]

The site they use defaults to the cheapest card version. Editor doesn't want to do an extra click, lmao

[@grizzerotwofour7858]

❤

[@joshcunningham3531]

*cries in boomer jund😢😢*

[@Bleuchz]

Tarmo is still played in Modern! Funny that Tomer calls it out as being strong, definitely A LOT of pushback against this precon. I really wish they had printed either a couple more new goyfs or changelings in this deck to make it a bit more playable; I think there's only a dozen or so playable goyfs. I like the jund call outs, there's always some intentional chaff in these decks and I appreciate how cute this list is as printed. As a Modern Horizons precon I think this succeeds in a lot of ways.

[@pokedadsam9041]

My Disa reanimates all the goyfs from The yard, and their like I got powercreped so hard. Damn right I feel off hard, I’m a token and no longer a card.

[@koreyb1671]

It’s Lhurgoyf summer

[@SmugLookingBarrel]

Ahh man, poor Richard getting roasted. I do think the deck is quite cool though.

[@yojimbo301]

I pronounce it Canyon Slough.

[@Infamouscritter]

brawn is still pretty good

[@magwaaf]

The problem with Disa is there a so few goyfa to use. I've had to fill a lot of slots inbthebdeckliay I'm trying to make with changelings

[@honks_in_banana3864]

I don't think this deck has a large glaring issue but a bunch of tiny issues that make the deck feel not very good out of the box.

[@zramirez5471]

Destroy all battles is actually a VERY interesting aspect... Time to edhrec jund battles... Also note that Rakdos / Golgari dont WANT to exhile creatures; they want to steal them, and each graveyard is a separate opportunity

[@joewaid]

Destroying a battle that way won't activate it

[@Y00bi]

Honestly, on you saying we should put battlebond lands into precons... yeah, they really should. I've always been of the opinion they should reprint all the commander staple lands into any precon that can fit them. There's an argument that these MH3 ones, being 'premium' precons should have at least the Fetchlands considering we reprinted half of them for this set. The fact they don't reprint THE commander lands in these is disgusting.

[@user-cf7vs7vk3t]

Is there enough goyfs in the deck to kill anyone with Morality Shift? There's like 7 goyfs, even if they were all 5/6s they'd only deal 35 damage to 1 opponent, then you'd probably get board wiped and lose the game.

[@jameelkurabi]

Pyrogoyf could point all of its triggers at one player but then you’d still be able to attack with everything. If anger and brawn are in the grave then you’ll probably win.

[@veginito9927]

Not tomer misevaluating again. Its like he only ever plays commander during clash

[@atrop19]

It's supposed to be goyf tribal but only has like 5 goyfs if that. Very disappointing.

[@bendysbrother7447]

Dude, not a single thing from wizards ever advertised this as a goyf tribal deck, its a self-mill deck, that uses goyfs as a payoff. Everyone just assumed it would be goyf tribal from the commander.

[@olcar7799]

Tomer, I don’t know if you are ‘’VIP’’ with Wizard of the coast, but I. Love your takes on commander format. Always watch your videos and I wish you could ring a few bells in the ‘’higher up’’ before having ‘’casual’’ commander decks that are less and less casuals… as a former Yugioh player who left cause it was powercrept to hell…. I fear the ‘’casual introduction to Magic’’ (via precon) is getting closer to that point. Like you said the Stella precon can win with infinite combos for less than 10$ upgrade and that deck can insta win with one card upgrade. I preorder all Precon sets since Lost caverns of Ixilan (i started playing at that moment) and as someone who enjoys casual games and like to see peoples deck do their things…. I hate it when 1 card can easily win you the game (I know there are 99 to draw from… but still) I know what ‘’fun is’’ really is personal, but I care about seeing people playing their decks and enjoying the game more than I care about winning.

[@Shimatzu95]

Honestly we need more people like you. The influx of people from competetive formats due to the heavy focus on commander alongside the forced powercreep of horizon sets consistently moves us further away from "casual" games. I have said so for years now but it realy is time to seperate edh in high and low(er) power with distinct banlists since people can't or don't want to self regulate.

[@olcar7799]

@@Shimatzu95 thank you. in my friends pod it aint that bad. But LGS everyone runs a « power level 7 deck » from the unmodified precon to the 500$ upgraded precons 🤦‍♂️ My self imposed rule is I have to ask myself « would I like to play against this deck or this card »? If the answer is no…. Then I don’t play it. Preordered the MH3 precons… will try them out. I doubt I will keep the Eldrazi deck because I hate Annihilator as a mechanic

[@JoeGrimy]

Damn man youre making me feel really old with all these comments about tarmogoyf.

[@broodwarjc1517]

Coram seems better than Disa. Disa relies on running a bunch of changelings to fill in the really low tribal count of gofys.

[@PopoTCG]

Maskwood Nexus says otherwise

[@MalteLewandowski]

You can focus on the second ability. First is just a nice extra. Ofc you can always add 2-3 of the good changelings and 2-3 tutors for Maskwood Nexus, if you really want to pop-off with her first ability.

[@hiddenleaf414]

@@PopoTCGThat’s one card in the 99. Not very consistent.

[@xeper9458]

@@hiddenleaf414 Sure isn't. People seem to forget this. It's hard to rely on strategies like that without tutors

[@Shimatzu95]

​@@xeper9458sure, if you are the kind of person that thinks running a bunch of tutors is something a casual deck should do. Also impacts the deckprice quite a bit if you want to go that route.

[@trevorrobaldo319]

someone tell me this guy isn't paid by wizards to give reviews because "on of the most powerful precons have seen" is a downright joke. this is one of the weakest I have seen. throughout the video he makes the comments "its fine... or its not good but its a throwback." said it at least 15 times.

[@jaysonking4055]

I don't understand why final act doesn't exile it has weaker modes than farewell and was in a powered up commander product rather than standard

[@as95ms98]

Okay yeah you make a bunch of Tarmogoyph tokens, but how can they not repront actual Tarmogopyh in this deck? Especially aince theres so little Llurgoyphs in the deck that's supposed to be Llurgoyph Kindred!

[@Genesis4119]

Because it's just that bad

[@ouroboss8401]

I'm so disappointed by this precon, there are too many cards that don't work in the decks, neither for creating a Tarmogoyf tribal, nor for focusing on the cemetery, the cards aren't bad, but it would have been easy to offer a new tribal deck that would have been truly original? Instead, the deck will just be completely deconstructed and some cards will be played in other decks, and the Tarmogoyf will just be a kind of combo for so many one-shots... The pre con is really disappointing for me

[@malloryab]

I don’t believe a 7 mana easily disrupted combo that requires a lot of set up is all that good tbh. However, Buried Alive = tutor three goyf onto the battlefield (or any creatures if your tribal hacks are online) Also, now there are 9 cards types so you’re creating 3x 9/10 tokens if you hit all three opponents and there’s enough of a graveyard.

[@czairkolmoslink5952]

Bro it still sees play, like wtf Stop treating it like it’s a old card no one uses Feel like everyone treats this deck like a joke and that’s how I feel like the set treats the archetype. Goyf being a token and calling the commander old. Like wtf

[@PopoTCG]

Tarmogoyf is old though

[@czairkolmoslink5952]

@@PopoTCG But it's stil relevent the way he was talking about it. it's like no one uses it

[@voidprism_studios666]

Precons at this point are for reprints and a way for wotc to make you spend twice as much upgrading the deck to actually be cohesive.

[@brandonfullmer1932]

So…funny thing. Tempt with mayhem will create infinite treasures with stormkiln artist. Make sure another instant/sorcery is on the stack, then just choose tempt with mayhem OVER AND OVER until you need to stop. 🤷🏻

[@veginito9927]

Not how that works.

[@brandonfullmer1932]

How does it work then?

[@MuscleMTG]

Homer can't say Colorless so I'm out

[@charlied8284]

The goyf stuff is not busted at all. It is still a very limited archetype. There's not enough cards to support it...still. hard pass just all over hype

[@lichdust]

regarding bituminous blast, instant speed cascade 5 kill something is powerful if you don't main phase your instants like many still do, violent outburst is "boomer" jund and was banned THIS YEAR in modern. pretending this is just for oldheads is just naive.

[@TwistedNsanity]

Lol wut? it was bad back in the day in commander

[@chrishack6690]

This is probably the worst precon I have seen in a while. The deck as is barely functions.

[@Maccabeus87]

I'm tired of the way you darn millennials say the word "Boomer." Show some respect.

[@airbrushaaron666]

Wow, boomer players huh, never seen a 60 - 80 year old guy playing magic, maybe 50, but I guess they must be out there.

[@oldmanphildraws]

in today's world, i come across the term "Boomer" being used to identify anyone who doesn't follow the ideology of an online influencer or the current trends of the younger generation making tik tak videos. So if you're in your mid 40s like myself, you're a boomer. But according to my 12 year old daughter, I'm ancient. lol

[@TwistedNsanity]

Boomer

[@airbrushaaron666]

@@TwistedNsanity gen-x

[@danlong3050]

Calling you out on your MTG Boomer hate. You should know better. Do better.

[@hahahafunniness]

WotC language "sanitation" is so weird. What the heck is wrong with the word tribal...

[@FrankChafe]

I know you are pretty young, but the number of "Boomers" (Baby boomers are born between 1946 and 1964) that actually play MTG was never very high (when I was at WOTC it constituted less than 1% of the player base) and I doubt it has spiked very much since then. That said, "Boomer" doesn't mean old. Its also insulting. Please increase your vocabulary.

[@c.r.bledsoe9322]

"boomer jund" is literally a type of modern deck, what are you talking about 😅

[@Genesis4119]

Ok, boomer

[@BigFattyWaffles]

They really printed Lhurgoyf of the Peaks