Tarptent Scarp 1 TENT | AWESOME features but could be better.

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Paul Messner

Paul Messner

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@roycarr1975
@roycarr1975 3 жыл бұрын
I bought one of these 2 years ago. It's a superb piece of kit. As you point out, lots of internal space which is great when my dog comes along with me on wild camps, whilst also leaving plenty of room for other stuff. The double vestibules make life so much easier when it's tipping with rain - you can get out on the sheltered side or do your cooking on that side. Very glad to have mine. I can live with the pack size.
@englishwoodsman
@englishwoodsman 3 жыл бұрын
Nice time mate 👍👌 Just sat in the woods in my hammock
@brendanlynch7296
@brendanlynch7296 3 жыл бұрын
I have used my Scarp 1 for 3 years and it's a gem of a tent. You might find a sturdier or lighter tent, but definitely not both. The fact that the cross poles are optional adds to its flexibility in that regard. The space for 1 is fantastic and it's straightforward to pitch and take down. For those who don't like that it has to be seam sealed, or that you have to add guy lines and tie out points, this is well flagged on the Tarptent website, and personally I understand why the company want to keep the tent as flexible as possible for the widest range of customers, especially as they are based in the US. Bought mine before the 2019 upgrades which took care of a few minor niggles (two way door zips, extra arch pole guy points), so the only niggle worth mentioning is the the not so great door ties, although they actually work fine. The fact you can't stuff pack it is a minor issue, but the benefits of having the struts far outweigh that minor disadvantage. One final point is that I would only consider it a 4 season tent if you use the cross poles. So clearly I'm a fan, but for good reason 😃
@davids9549
@davids9549 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Paul, for refraining from using the terms 'bombproof' or 'bomber' in your excellent review!
@benny_mc
@benny_mc 3 жыл бұрын
Murray's videos are great. You're correct in that he's really tested this tents 4 season credentials. Great review, Paul.
@ajcoops5919
@ajcoops5919 3 жыл бұрын
I have the tarptent scarp 2 and it is definitely up there with the hilliberg. The additional poles just add to the robustness and stability and they are a good looking tent,loads of room in my 2 and I also purchased a groundsheet that was cut to order and just finishes it off, awesome bit of kit ,only had it out once so looking forward to putting it through its paces in the outdoors for years to come 😀
@chrisweldon2817
@chrisweldon2817 3 жыл бұрын
I've the scarp 2 as well. Palatial is not the word, love it.
@kevinharding1181
@kevinharding1181 Жыл бұрын
Has anyone shown that the poles actually improve wind stability? Henry at Tarptent said they don't - they are for snow loading. However I've seen others say it does. Confusing.
@sameerjoshi515
@sameerjoshi515 3 жыл бұрын
Took my scarp 1 up on Bleaklow for the first time last week as it came in the box, a little experiment to see how it would fare without the extra guylines or pegs. It was flapping around so much in gusts of up to 30mph and the side facing the wind was buffeted on the inner all night. Few points from my first night out in it: - It is essential to add the extra guylines, as you said for the price it would have been good to see these coming with the tent. Or at least have some linelocs sewn into the loops so you just have to add the cord. - The inner mesh pockets are not functional at all. - With one side of the inner floor pulled in, the footprint is actually a similar size to the new Lanshan 1! Saves me having to buy a separate groundsheet :) - Despite the (inner) footprint being the size of a Lanshan, the space inside is phenomenal thanks to wide arch pole and tall pitchloc tubes in the corners. - Overall I feel like you pay for the design and not the materials with this tent, they don't feel very robust. Just my feeling, but time will tell. Looking forward to seeing more adventures from you Paul!
@malcolmjcullen
@malcolmjcullen 3 жыл бұрын
I've had my Moment DW (the smaller version of the Scarp, which wasn't in stock when I was buying, a source of constant regret) for 3 years now, seeing plenty of use, and it's holding up well.
@kimpriessloft371
@kimpriessloft371 3 жыл бұрын
I disagree. The fly of the Lanshan 1 is 15D and the zippers #3. The Scarp is 30D and zippers #5. Furthermore the pole on Lanshan is 8,5 mm, the Scarp 9 mm Easton poles ( same mm as Hilleberg)...
@sameerjoshi515
@sameerjoshi515 3 жыл бұрын
@@kimpriessloft371 not sure what you are disagreeing with because I was only talking about the SIZE of the lanshan footprint in comparison to the Scarp 1 😊
@kimpriessloft371
@kimpriessloft371 3 жыл бұрын
@@sameerjoshi515 ehh - I commented on your statement, that one pays for the design and not the quality 🤔 I have the tent myself and think the quality is super compared to other popular tents like MSR, Big Agnes, chinese tents and others, who often use much more delicate materials to bring the weight down. I meant no offence! ✌️😅
@sameerjoshi515
@sameerjoshi515 3 жыл бұрын
@@kimpriessloft371 now that makes a lot more sense!
@theartist1189
@theartist1189 3 жыл бұрын
I love this tent. It appears astetically thinner than the average 4 seasons tent. That being said. I think its definitely well worth the money. Fantastic video. Cheers Paul.🙂👍⛺
@markhigham9589
@markhigham9589 3 жыл бұрын
I wish I could afford just a fraction of your gear , I do love and have learned a huge amount from you and your channel regardless. I don’t do social media so I’m unable to follow you on those , but I just want to thank you for all your hard work and sharing of your knowledge . Please keep sharing and I’ll keep the compromising with what gear I can get which isn’t so easy n today’s climate . Cheers and thanks again .
@ScotlandsMountains
@ScotlandsMountains 3 жыл бұрын
Love my SCARP - great video Paul 👍
@JohnSmith-ep2hh
@JohnSmith-ep2hh 3 жыл бұрын
Bang on Paul. Back in Jan this year I had been planning on getting a terra nova tent from their online outlet but they were out of stock. After searching the net I stumbled across some posts hidden in the deepest darkest corners of mountaineering forums by people (mainly Scottish and Americans) recommending a little known tent called the scarp. Thank GOD I saw those posts because I took a leap of faith and ordered one straight away, fearing a stock shortage coming post lockdown. I get the impression their popularity has soured recently in part down to your videos no doubt! I was just lucky with my timing but I’m sure I could sell mine on eBay for a profit. As for how good it is - I’ve used it lots this year in the black mountains where I live and it’s a tent for life. It’s not the lightest, cheapest or sturdiest but it’s a close second in all those categories which makes it overall the best hiking tent money can buy IMO.
@pequod1
@pequod1 3 жыл бұрын
Likes of terra nova are far better than this
@JohnSmith-ep2hh
@JohnSmith-ep2hh 3 жыл бұрын
@@pequod1 haha The scarp is bigger, lighter, and much more resistant to wind and snow, it had a solid inner making it suitable for winter use too. …Terra Nova tents are D of E tents by comparison lol
@SimonOutdoors
@SimonOutdoors 3 жыл бұрын
Great overview Paul, it looks like a gorgeous tent too. Cheers mate, Si
@jlockwood131
@jlockwood131 3 жыл бұрын
I would recommend putting a few blobs of silicone either on the bottom of your sleeping pad as well as on floor of the tent to fix how slippy it is, that worked really well for me :) Great review Paul, I can't wait to see you use it more! I had the same reaction to the door ties when I first started using the tent, but actually having spent time in the tent I now prefer them to bungee ties with toggles - Tarptent's ones are very simple & robust (you can't really break or wear them out) and they are quick and easy to use. I'm not entirely sold on the guy lines complaint - I've had a Scarp 2 for 4 years now and spent well over 4 months worth of nights wild camping in it across various parts of the UK and Europe in all temperatures and seasons including in the Arctic and above 10,000ft. In that time I've only genuinely needed the side guy lines (and crossing poles for that matter) a handful of times (and one of those times was my fault for pitching the tent in the wrong orientation in the Lakes in Spring this year - Unless you are planning on pitching side on into some serious wind, in an exposed pitch and without the crossing poles, you will be fine without the side guys!). For added context the Scarp 1 is a stronger tent than my Scarp 2. To be honest Tarptent appear to have fixed most of my main complaints with the tent in the latest update (not that I have used it) - what I really want now is a Dyneema Scarp 1 (Please make this happen Henry Shires) but I'm told that taping the curved pole-sleeve seam is a nightmare so we shall see! I totally agree about the pack size Paul - it is one of the biggest drawbacks of the tent. You can remove the pitch-loc end struts to pack it smaller which is effective but I personally don't bother as it is a bit of a faff and one of the tent's best features is that it is wildly quick to pitch! If anyone is looking for more thoughts & suggestions on the Scarp 1, Chris Townsend has done some really insightful reviews if you google 'Chris Townsend Scarp 1'.
@adge_ventures4915
@adge_ventures4915 3 жыл бұрын
Received mine yesterday. Brilliant little tent 😊
@MCMOutdoors
@MCMOutdoors 3 жыл бұрын
Cheers Mez - purchased off the back of this...... ATB - Chris
@MontyOutdoors
@MontyOutdoors 3 жыл бұрын
Initially my next tent was the Vango MTN F10 for mental weather conditions, but now I fancy this...
@Oldsparkey
@Oldsparkey 3 жыл бұрын
I like to hammock camp but sometimes a tent is needed for a trip. I purchased a Tarp Tent Moment ( including the free standing kit ) back in 2011. Used it on one car camping trip , the next day I dried it , packed it , made a run home and traded it for one of my hammocks for the rest of the week. Later I was telling a friend about it and he did the same with his. His complaint was condensation. No condensation with mine , I had it wide open over night. My complaint was having the material a few inches from my face , to confining when laying down. Made me think I was sleeping with my head in a box. It's a well made tent and would be ideal for backpacking if you can stand confining quarters. I read where it was redesigned in 2019. Irregardless , I replaced mine with a different tent.
@davidbotardo8597
@davidbotardo8597 3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting system of this tent. Multiterrain. Thanks for sharing with us Paul. Much health and happiness. 👏🏻🖖🏻🏕️🏞️🇬🇧🇧🇷
@jeremyoconnor169
@jeremyoconnor169 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Paul. This is like a game show moment: 'see what you could have had'. I only recently bought the Telemark 2.2 LW and will be out to play with that on Dartmoor soon. I have to say, it's going to be hard to put down the hooped bivvy. I have had snug nights under thick snow and heavy rainstorms over 30+ years in hooped goretex bivvies. Keep filming!
@garywelch7969
@garywelch7969 3 жыл бұрын
Also own the 2019 updated version. Excellent tent and customer service from Tarptent. Same little niggal issues but this a perfect tent for all seasons. I also purchased the mesh and sold inner with foot print and outer poles. The mesh inner is perfect for summer months. I am aware Vango do a foot print that fits the Scarp 1 perfectly but can't remember which model? Enjoy your new tent.
@TheMadmacs
@TheMadmacs 3 жыл бұрын
i'd love one of those tents, they look very steady and great for a quiet sleep on a windy night.
@AndyWardle
@AndyWardle 3 жыл бұрын
I like them. I even had one in my basket ready to go last year. But then the BL soulo was announced and my life fell apart 😂 we all know what I did next. I think it’s too fiddly for me. Eddie Scotswildcamper loves his. And Murray seems to get on well with it. So don’t listen to me 😂 it looks nice though. Especially in moody photos. 👍 good review again Mez. Will need to see it in the flesh one day. 👍
@terryrensch2561
@terryrensch2561 3 жыл бұрын
my scarp 1 just arrived from tarptent cant wait to get it pitched up its the 2022 version extra guy out points on the hoop larger new storage nets inside lighter material all in all nice looking tomorrow I pitch it up on my front lawn as Kyle our doberman who is 20 months old is still a bouncy boy at heart rock and roll wild camping
@darrendazzertodd
@darrendazzertodd 3 жыл бұрын
How much did you pay in duties? I have just ordered one and was wondering what the final "sting" will be. Atb
@terryrensch2561
@terryrensch2561 3 жыл бұрын
@@darrendazzertodd I ordered the scarp 1 tent got tarptent to seal all seamsfor $35, got 60 ft of guyline and the 2 cross poles so my order total was £443.02 and I paid UPS for tax customs admin etc £119.65
@darrendazzertodd
@darrendazzertodd 3 жыл бұрын
Oh mate im always dubious about ordering stuff from abroad, i do hope you are happy with your purchase and many thanks for your help, let the good times roll. Many thanks Terry
@terryrensch2561
@terryrensch2561 3 жыл бұрын
@@darrendazzertodd yes very happy with the tent it’s a beast so well worth every penny incidentally I ordered 6 extra eastern stakes and the mesh inner with extra guy line clips as an extra order which cost £177.79 UPS delivered the other day no customs or tax payment may be a value cost threshold on import duty etc not sure how that works but happy that I did not have to pay any extra
@davids9549
@davids9549 3 жыл бұрын
Just received mine. All looks good, but I'm annoyed that the crossing poles are now 96g heavier than the pre-2022 versions. I asked Tarptent about this and was told they're no longer using the lighter ones because they're not using them elsewhere in their range.
@colinme2672
@colinme2672 3 жыл бұрын
Had for over a decade. Velcro fastners work fine and are much quicker once you get used to it. Best tent I ever owned.
@chriswellstead776
@chriswellstead776 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Paul for another helpful video.
@BackcountryExposure
@BackcountryExposure 3 жыл бұрын
I love my Double Rainbow Li!
@chrisb9345
@chrisb9345 3 жыл бұрын
I just bought a Zephyros Compact 1 which seems to be a similar design, but is 3 seasons rather than 4. Also it is around half the price. Your video gave me some confidence that i can actually set my own tent up though, so thanks!
@Morphaplasm
@Morphaplasm Жыл бұрын
Hi Paul, I have my first tent which is a lanshan 1 4 season, which is perfect for my little hikes, but I've seen a few people on here with this tent. much more room inside too, I'm tempted! Great vid content too! 🙂
@TravelswithRosie
@TravelswithRosie 3 жыл бұрын
We have the Notch Li and thats super for the weight.
@TheLDunn1
@TheLDunn1 3 жыл бұрын
I have the Stratospire Li on my radar - for the weight advantage while still being twin wall / 4 season capable & being able for a single person use with the occasional two person use.
@stevebaggaley28
@stevebaggaley28 3 жыл бұрын
Cracking tent that pal , brilliant Idea with the extra poles for windier camps ,I like that ,great vid paul
@PaulMessner
@PaulMessner 3 жыл бұрын
Cheers Steve. Hope you're well
@maibster
@maibster 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! Loving your review videos, answering all of my questions
@kennrawgel188
@kennrawgel188 3 жыл бұрын
Looks like my Quechua Forclaz! Great review Paul! 🤙
@ge1ertjones540
@ge1ertjones540 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant, as always Paul. Can't wait for my Scarp 1 to arrive next week. 👍🌱
@ChrisJB
@ChrisJB 3 жыл бұрын
With the Scarp 1, weight, to space, to strength ratio is superb. I envisaged this as mainly a winter tent but I'm finding myself using it much more than that. Cheers, Chris
@y1sco
@y1sco 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Paul mine just arrived today erected in garden and sat back and admired now looking forward to some serious adventures, I enjoyed your review of the tent along with the many vlogs you’ve produced however sometimes a bit too commercial for my liking but understand your reason,
@mickspain330
@mickspain330 3 жыл бұрын
Great well made video Paul as usual your descriptions are perfect, the tent looks great as well thanks for sharing 👍
@petemarsden9431
@petemarsden9431 3 жыл бұрын
Great detailed review Paul. Yes it's a great tent, and I've had mine for about 5 years now and love it!
@sklunkersklunkersson8679
@sklunkersklunkersson8679 3 жыл бұрын
After 5 years of use can I ask how you rate the durability of the floor and do you use a separate groundsheet?
@petemarsden9431
@petemarsden9431 3 жыл бұрын
@@sklunkersklunkersson8679 I always use a plastic sheet under the groundsheet, and have not noticed any long term problems.
@sklunkersklunkersson8679
@sklunkersklunkersson8679 3 жыл бұрын
@@petemarsden9431 cheers 👍
@chrisweldon2817
@chrisweldon2817 3 жыл бұрын
I've the scarp 2 since January, you have to be fast on the buy now button. Same niggles as you, I've put my own tie points on the doors and works a treat. Was out earlier in the year and weather was a tad on the bad side, crossing poles in place,didnt move an inch, palatial inside and I just chilled. Duomid on the way (well in a few months) looking forward to comparing them for strength, build design and liveability 😁
@HikingWithMartin
@HikingWithMartin 3 жыл бұрын
Nice looking tent, I have the akto which seems simpler to put up but the scarp looks bigger inside.
@iantomac
@iantomac 3 жыл бұрын
A cracking tent and another good video. Ta, Mr M! 👍🏻
@scottomcgotto
@scottomcgotto 3 жыл бұрын
Cracking tent, I've had mine for over 10 years now with no problems. I do use a ground sheet every time though.
@callummacinnes3677
@callummacinnes3677 3 жыл бұрын
What length of guylines do you use for the pole sleeve tie outs and the extra flysheet points ?
@TheSoloSummiteer
@TheSoloSummiteer 3 жыл бұрын
Great review Paul. Looks quality that 😎👍
@RS.Outdoors
@RS.Outdoors 3 жыл бұрын
Good review Paul. Did try one a long time ago and wasn't too keen on it, however that was before all the latest upgrades. Thing I do hate and it is on my Tarptent Notch LI as well is the inner door tie backs are crap and the door is forever sagging. Also the triangular pockets are a bit naff and would have preferred they make square ones. Atb
@malcolmjcullen
@malcolmjcullen 3 жыл бұрын
I think the toggle for the inner is good, you don't have to tie a fancy knot or use a bit of plastic, it works fine as it is. Also, with regards to the packability, you can remove the carbon fibre end poles from their sleeves and bundle them with main crossing pole, letting you pack the tent fabric separately.
@scotty672
@scotty672 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Paul what guy line tensioners did you get have you got a link
@alandavis9180
@alandavis9180 3 жыл бұрын
An excellent review as per usual Paul. Can't comment on the Scarp but I have the Tarptent Moment DW and can say with little fear of contradiction it is no Soulo. The Hilleberg is on another planet in comparison. The Moment DW is advertised at being around a kilo but by the time you make it trail ready (extra stakes, guy ropes, footprint because the floor is so crappy, the full length crossing pole etc) the weight is closer to 1.6kg. For 200gms more I can use my One Planet Goondie 1 or the Soulo for an extra 800 gms. Either of these two are a far better options camped above the treeline. The Moment DW is fine for what it is but it's not 4 season in my book. The floor is the worst I've ever come across in more than 50 years of hiking. It's like sleeping on a greasy pole. I've put all sorts of silicone strips across it to little avail....Don't sell the Soulo.
@basecamper7504
@basecamper7504 3 жыл бұрын
Nice tent, nice design for a good 4 season use.
@WalkWithWallace
@WalkWithWallace 3 жыл бұрын
I really don't get all the negative comments about the tent coming unsealed. This isn't uncommon from cottage industry companies in the US. Plus it takes 40 minutes to do yourself. Worth it for a quality tent at a fraction of the cost of other tents.
@heapswellnice
@heapswellnice 3 жыл бұрын
Couldn’t agree with you more about the door ties. They get frustrating. I took it on the Cumbria way and after a long day they were not camper friendly, otherwise brilliant tent. Great video! 🙂
@donaldbuttery7128
@donaldbuttery7128 3 жыл бұрын
Good luck getting that up in Rocky ground
@BSmith244
@BSmith244 3 жыл бұрын
It looks a great tent and one I’ve wanted for a while but it always seems to be out of stock. One downside which I’ve seen mentioned in FellmanDave’s video is the cross pole tie outs which flap about in the wind if you’re not using the cross poles. I know you’ve watched it too as you left a comment thanking him for the tip. After watching your video I’m guessing the zips could also be noisy in windy conditions. I’ll still no doubt buy one when they are available again.
@Fellmandave1
@Fellmandave1 Жыл бұрын
Hey! You talking about me?
@utubeape
@utubeape 3 жыл бұрын
Once you have the additional cross poles is it possible to remove the 4 little built in poles and still maintain the structure?
@sgurr_a
@sgurr_a 3 жыл бұрын
What guylines do you recommend?
@stevedixons
@stevedixons 3 жыл бұрын
I am waiting for the Soulo to be available again, the question is if I had this (tarptent) would I still need/want the soul? By the way I’ll never need a Soulo but I definitely want one for peace of mind as opposed to my camping needs.
@IIISentorIII
@IIISentorIII 3 жыл бұрын
I think you already answer your question ;) I would buy the tarptent and invest some money into a great sleeping mate ( maybe Sea to Summit). And you have an absolute amazing and stable 4 Season tent. I own the Soulo RL and use it here in Switzerland in the Mountains. Unless you are camping in a place without any shelter around you and with winds over 100km/h (63 miles). You do not need it, any keep in mind that tent is designed for heavy Snowloads. I do camping trips for over 35+ Years now with many tents and did camp in many Storms and Blizzards around the World. If you buy the Solo investing into another lightwide summer tent (Tarptent Notch Li) can make sense if you really use it for backpacking. But if you buy the scarp 1 you don't need the Soulo in my opinion.
@northumberlandmountainhopper
@northumberlandmountainhopper 3 жыл бұрын
nice review great looking tent but would have been nice to see a tape measure showing length width etc
@martinkane4815
@martinkane4815 3 жыл бұрын
, Excellent review Paul, very informative and detailed 👍🏻
@johnneribonaobra6909
@johnneribonaobra6909 3 жыл бұрын
Newbie here! Philippines 🤙
@pmh9966
@pmh9966 3 жыл бұрын
I have had similar tents and have since revised my options. I like the space inside to have as much headroom as possible and as well as side entrances. I have a Robens Boulder Creek 2 which seems to be working well at the moment.
@neilhughes3529
@neilhughes3529 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! I got one last year and made that mod to the elastic door opening ties - stitched a toggle on one of them, and stitched the other into a loop. Well worth it. The velcro ties don't bother me so much. Agree with your comment on not coming with side guys - seems like a false economy. I've made the comment to Henry at Tarptent, so maybe they'll start to include them. On the stuffability point - you can remove the end struts to make it stuffable, but seems like too much of a faff to me taking 10 struts in and out....I've just got the Notch now for ultralight 3 season tent. Tarptent fanboy here!
@ipaales7552
@ipaales7552 3 жыл бұрын
Apart from the Hilleberg for me its the best tent I've seen although agree with the fixed poles on the tent but I'm being picky all the best Paul stay safe 👍
@PaulMessner
@PaulMessner 3 жыл бұрын
The Hilleberg is awesome when it comes to strength and durability. It is overkill for most situation though, but you get what you pay for. Have a great week buddy
@outdoors27
@outdoors27 Жыл бұрын
Hi , I love this tent.. Could you please send me the link were you bought it from please.. And thank you😊
@PaulMessner
@PaulMessner Жыл бұрын
Tarptent.com
@batwithglasses
@batwithglasses 3 жыл бұрын
You and Murray should do a camp together Paul!..just sayin. This is a beautiful tent and bombproof, but we have a couple of $800 tents that have " questionable" things as well like toggles and sub par straps..I guess they must save a few sheckles doing that I assume. I'd always use this tent with the outside poles, never know what mother nature will throw at you. Cheers my friend. Say hi to Jo and Reggie!
@cherylkaye
@cherylkaye 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Paul (or anyone else who has ordered this form the US).....how bad will the sting be on import duties (and Royal mail fees) please? Love the look and style of this tent but need to make sure I budget enough to pay any fees as well before I rush order (assuming it is ever back in stock). Thanks.
@MrJC1
@MrJC1 Жыл бұрын
You know... i love to see the soulo. Its killer. But i think i will start out with this tent. Yes it has some drawbacks, however for the price, and what i see... i mean i even like the redundancy of being able to squeeze someone else in if you are doing a trip or if their tent dies. You know... things go wrong. I think it is good value. As bombproof as a hilleberg? Probably not. But with sensible pitching a great tent. :D.
@joeshepherd4990
@joeshepherd4990 3 жыл бұрын
I am considering getting the scarp 2 for me and my wife
@chrisweldon2817
@chrisweldon2817 3 жыл бұрын
I have the scarp 2, I'm greedy and use it for myself but massive amounts of space and easily a really comfy 2 man tent.
@swjfc1554
@swjfc1554 3 жыл бұрын
Tent looks sweet 👍
@ksgonewild
@ksgonewild 3 жыл бұрын
Really interesting looking tent, great review thanks Paul 😃 K💕
@Daz5Daz
@Daz5Daz 3 жыл бұрын
Why would anyone want a tent with unsealed seams? Is there a genuine reason for the seams to not be sealed at the factory?
@malcolmjcullen
@malcolmjcullen 3 жыл бұрын
Some "hardcore" campers consider themselves experts and would rather seam-seal it themselves. If it was always done in the factory and the tent was $20 more expensive no one would mention it and it wouldn't be an issue.
@jlockwood131
@jlockwood131 3 жыл бұрын
Possibly, remember this started as a very small cottage company and they simply didn't have the space or time to seam seal all the tents. That being said now that they have grown and offshored you may be correct. Equally while $400 is a lot of money, in the world of lighterweight trekking tents it isn't so much and you will struggle to source a tent of similar weight, quality, and stormworthiness (In the UK at least) for less in my opinion (But I am always interested in suggestions!). Bearing in mind that seamsealing has to be done by hand I can understand why Tarp Tent don't do it as standard at the price point. (Copied and pasted from another reply).
@GadgetMart
@GadgetMart 3 жыл бұрын
The late great Robert Saunders didn’t seam seal his iconic tents either.
@samwhite7197
@samwhite7197 3 жыл бұрын
@@GadgetMart Yes and all his customers had to learn how to seam seal them with nothing more than bathroom silicone, to stop the run off coming through (myself included).
@redstone5149
@redstone5149 3 жыл бұрын
That tent looks as tight as a banjo string!👍
@jamielist1438
@jamielist1438 3 жыл бұрын
Nice video mate, personally, any tent that doesn't come with all the additional guy ropes included, not enough pegs or seam sealed, I won't ever invest because the prices are crazy.
@neilhughes3529
@neilhughes3529 3 жыл бұрын
For the sake of maybe £30 extra on 10m of dynema and a handful of pegs you get a tent that is every bit as weatherproof as a Hilleberg IMHO and still half the price👍
@jamielist1438
@jamielist1438 3 жыл бұрын
@@neilhughes3529 maybe so mate but it's wrong it's lazy that manufactures think it's right to do so.
@neilhughes3529
@neilhughes3529 3 жыл бұрын
@@jamielist1438 I think they do it to keep the weight figure (and the price) down. I agree, it pisses me off too and they should be included, but it wouldn’t stop me buying the tent if it’s otherwise an excellent product.
@jamielist1438
@jamielist1438 3 жыл бұрын
@@neilhughes3529 I'd, rather have it done for me, more so if they are stating its, 4 Season they expect that rain will be an issue. This has been a relatively new concept where people have to spend more money on doing things that (in my opinion) should already be done. It's crazy really. You don't go out and spend 200 quid on a pair of boots that don't come with laces becaude all of a sudden the manufacturer wanted to save weight and costs. It's pure lazy mate. Anyway, off my soap box, it's coming home! 😂
@AndyWardle
@AndyWardle 3 жыл бұрын
@@jamielist1438 if you pay them they’ll seam seal it at the factory for you. £30 I think.
@jasonkelsey987
@jasonkelsey987 3 жыл бұрын
Great film as usual. I want one but no chance! Tarp tent are out.
@oliverburke3743
@oliverburke3743 3 жыл бұрын
Paul. Can I ask. If you separate the poles from the main tent how small can it pack down. I know it has the structural corner poles built in but it you take the main arch pole out can it pack down any smaller than with it in?
@redouantirisse1805
@redouantirisse1805 3 жыл бұрын
Greetings from Morocco ✋
@Fastpack_Dack
@Fastpack_Dack 3 жыл бұрын
Looks great Paul, always looks solid in Murray’s videos. If you had to chose between the Scarp and your Soulo what would you go for? Cheers.
@quartercenturyfilm4180
@quartercenturyfilm4180 3 жыл бұрын
What’s happening with the van build Paul ?
@majicmonkey1984
@majicmonkey1984 3 жыл бұрын
Great review Paul. How much extra did it cost to import and tax once in the UK? Definitely on the short list to upgrade my banshee!
@Bikepacking
@Bikepacking 3 жыл бұрын
It great tent no big deal seal sealing it plus always good to seam seal your tent ever year
@glenroberts7557
@glenroberts7557 2 жыл бұрын
I know someone who ad the scrap and a banshee they prefer the banshee 😂🤣😂😃
@benjaminzac_Man_Wi_A_Tan
@benjaminzac_Man_Wi_A_Tan 3 жыл бұрын
Great review Paul but not sold on this tent because of the closeness of the ends to your face and feet. The middle section is fine for sitting up but looks tight where it could do with being slighter higher up. Silnylon with poles to make it sturdy is a great thing and something the Lan Shan Pro 1 could do with for not that much more in weight. ATB.
@MrRwccwr
@MrRwccwr 3 жыл бұрын
Anyone on KZbin that hasn't already signed up to squarespace by now, never will 😂😂
@SproutyPottedPlant
@SproutyPottedPlant 3 жыл бұрын
Sponsored by SPAMSpace 🤮
@TheLDunn1
@TheLDunn1 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe they are working on the logic that we will all get so fed up with the Squarespace ads that we will all join on mass just to remove the need for then to sponsor/advertise everywhere? I coded my own website from scratch using just a text editor. I've coded it in such a way that I just drop images into a 'gallery' folder & add EXIF meta data to the images, & my website code uses a loop to 'read' all the image names & key EXIF data & then decides which images to display depending upon the viewers input, & all the title, camera, lens & exposure data etc is displayed on screen with the image using a loop. So I don't have to 'code' each time I want to add a new image to my gallery - the coding is divorced from the specific file name paths. viewers can select to see 'All' or just 'Landscape' or 'People' or other such gendres because I have added them to the EXIF data, I can even add multiple gendres to an individual image so that the coding displays the image in more than one 'galley'. The user can also select to see images from specific camera or lenses that I've used, selectable from a drop down list - this has actually been helpful to myself. I am not a computer programmer, I just googled & experimented a little until I got things working, its not rocket science, & can be 'fun' & educational if you give it a go!
@robch4414
@robch4414 3 жыл бұрын
Does anywhere in the UK stock this?
@BurtReynoldstash
@BurtReynoldstash 3 жыл бұрын
Love mine, the peg bag sucks tho. Changed mine. It’s an awesome tent
@rickym8980
@rickym8980 3 жыл бұрын
How much does all the import taxes, shipping costs ect come too?
@richardclegg5853
@richardclegg5853 3 жыл бұрын
How's the quality vs Hilleberg?
@festivalmarquees6511
@festivalmarquees6511 3 жыл бұрын
Be great to know what sitting headroom is like inside please?
@LundysWildcampBushcraft
@LundysWildcampBushcraft 3 жыл бұрын
A very nice looking tent Paul but I have to agree with you them tie ups for the doors are shocking mate atvb jimmy 😎😎👍👍
@maibster
@maibster 3 жыл бұрын
How come you are using this over your Hilleberg Akto? The seem very similar to me, I would like to hear your Reasoning as I am trying to figure out which one to buy at the moment
@TheLizardKing247
@TheLizardKing247 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Paul. I've found your channel very interesting & useful for information on certain things, so I will be watching more 👍🏽 I am intrigued to know your thoughts on the Scarp 1 v the Hilleburg Soulo... I am really torn over these 2 tents. The weight & cost pushes me to the Scarp 1, but knowing the Soulo is a complete bomb proof tent, I kind of feel thats the better buy. Would be really interested to know your opinion on which tent is better. If you were suggesting 1 tent out the 2 which way would you go? I can't afford both unfortunately, so its one or the other!! Be good to hear back from you Pal 🙏 Keep videos coming, I really enjoy them. All the best McHaggis !
@graffitigraphics1
@graffitigraphics1 3 жыл бұрын
Loving the videos Paul, I binge watch them while the better half of watching the mindless rubbish on TV. I seek advice: I’m after a new tent to take on my motorbike. Weight not an issue, budget isn’t a problem. I want something easy to put up, (I detest feeding poles through) fairly high so I’m not bent over all the time, and space for me and my gear. Something that sleeps 2/3 people would be ideal. Anyone have any suggestions?
@grahamkay8711
@grahamkay8711 3 жыл бұрын
really good review paul i really like this tent would be great in my climate but for the price i am the same as you the seam seal should be already on the tent and the guide ropes and poles should be in the price and they would probably sell more tents good job on the review
@Fellmandave1
@Fellmandave1 3 жыл бұрын
Just up now Paul is my comparison to other similar models, let me know what you think!
@treubuchet
@treubuchet 3 жыл бұрын
with the outer skeleton (for want of a better term), I do not see why the sewn in poles are required. I am certain if they were removed the structure would remain unchanged. Perhaps the option to pull these out would be useful. That said, what was the total weight for all of this Paul? That and the pack size would make it impractical for long hikes or would you disagree?
@neilhughes3529
@neilhughes3529 3 жыл бұрын
They are still required to pitch, and they are removable
@nickfry7705
@nickfry7705 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Paul, thanks for the good review, there seems to be no UK dealer for Tarptent that I can find so assume you bought direct from them in the US. If so did you get hit for any import duties etc. Thanks, Nick.
@joekelly9369
@joekelly9369 3 жыл бұрын
Looks decent , similar to the vango helium - weight wise
@richardwaudby7338
@richardwaudby7338 3 жыл бұрын
Do you think the porches are big enough? I think they look tiny in videos. Never seen one in person. Really doesn’t look enough space for cooking in safety.
@petergilbert72
@petergilbert72 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, I’d rather have one big porch over two small ones.
@colinme2672
@colinme2672 3 жыл бұрын
Never ever had condensation in 100s of nights in all weathers. My Alto used to get it all the time. In my opinion the top venting it used to have was much better if you used it properly.
@sergeyivanov1100
@sergeyivanov1100 3 жыл бұрын
How many littres rucksak are you using mate?
@4seasonbackpacking
@4seasonbackpacking 3 жыл бұрын
Nice tent for more wild weather.
@chrisweldon2817
@chrisweldon2817 3 жыл бұрын
Disagree, had my scarp 2 out in really bad weather, not an issue.
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