Tata Altroz Racer 2024 First Impressions | S02E24

The new Tata Altroz Racer features a fuel efficient and more powerful new engine, and it really is a practical hatchback. But Kartikeya says that a racer it is not, by any stretch of the imagination, on MotorInc First.
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MotorInc First is a discussion between experts Kartikeya Singhee and Shumi (Shubhabrata Marmar), co-founders of MotorInc, on new vehicles. Each episode will discuss one vehicle in great detail, covering the experience of driving or riding it and what it means for the industry.
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CHAPTERS
00:00 Cosmetic Tata Altroz?
02:53 Is It Sporty?
05:43 What's Changed
10:53 Driving The Altroz
15:34 A Family Car
19:55 The Exhaust Note
21:19 Wait To Buy Altroz
23:50 Everyday Practicality
26:30 Consistent Experiences
28:27 New SUV Platforms
29:47 World-Class Tatas Needed
34:58 Design
37:00 Tata Altroz Electric?
39:21 Smaller Details
40:50 Quick Summary
45:57 What's Next
48:32 Closing Comments
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[@motorinc]

*Chapters* 00:00 Cosmetic Tata Altroz? 02:53 Is It Sporty? 05:43 What's Changed 10:53 Driving The Altroz 15:34 A Family Car 19:55 The Exhaust Note 21:19 Wait To Buy Altroz 23:50 Everyday Practicality 26:30 Consistent Experiences 28:27 New SUV Platforms 29:47 World-Class Tatas Needed 34:58 Design 37:00 Tata Altroz Electric? 39:21 Smaller Details 40:50 Quick Summary 45:57 What's Next 48:32 Closing Comments *Explore MotorInc memberships at* youtube.com/@motorinc/join

[@allenbt]

Petition for Karthik to review all 104 varients of the nexon 😂

[@motorinc]

Maar daala!

[@allenbt]

@@motorinc Don't be lazy Karthik 😂

[@shaktiswarupsarangi8130]

Awesome 😂

[@karamjeetsinghswaich]

While writing this comment, TATA has just added 3 more variants😅 sorry 3 more personas

[@jai9293]

i personally feel tata should drop a diesel version of altroz racer with a tuned up revotorq engine and a 6 speed greabox from nexon because the 1.5 diesel engine in altroz is a very underrated engine which can outperform the i turbo+

[@BhaskaraVenkatesh]

@@jai9293 Like Ford did with the Figo Sport! That was another pocket rocket which people forget!

[@pratyasaha9876]

Altroz is a real underrated car. We own the 1.2 NA variant but trust me if you are upgrading from an entry level car like the Alto the performance will be great. It's enough for the city. If it's driver driven then no problem at all. The driving dynamics and comfort are spot on. Mileage isn't bad at 12-14 in city and maximum of 24 on the highway. All you need for a family car. Just take a bite for the service centres they aren't as bad as many say about. Quick tip try finding a service center in a small city or town. They are less crowded and give more time to your car.

[@motorinc]

Thanks PS! That’s helpful! How long have you had it?

[@pratyasaha9876]

@@motorinc It's been 3.5 years she's born on October, 2020. She's been trouble free apart from the battery replacement which was done a few months back!

[@harshaddhavalikar9123]

You get 24 on highway?

[@daninwheels1006]

@@pratyasaha9876 Bro I own an August 2020 Tata Altroz Diesel with it's 90 bhp (I wished Tata gave it atleast 100 bhp) and fat 200 nm torque, I feel it's the best engine for Altroz with it's superb handling, perfect suspension setup and dream like steering feedback it is an underrated small beast 🔥

[@pratyasaha9876]

@@harshaddhavalikar9123 Yes buddy at 80 kmph in eco mode

[@Rajesh-ut6mt]

The engine upgrade the latest infotainment system sold me to buy this 🥵

[@motorinc]

Thanks for letting us know!

[@MrSMK21]

Also with Karthikeya saying this should have been the Altroz GT, maybe Tata gets an idea, launch Altroz GT with minor cosmetic updates and launch another 42 variants. 😅

[@motorinc]

Nooooo!

[@rawalsushant]

Shumi makes me regret my choice of buying a Tata car everytime I hear him talk about them. On top of it being an EV owner I am just bracing for the next words that Shumi has to say about them 😂.

[@motorinc]

😆 No need to be @rawalsushant. Once you have a vehicle, it's the best in the world for you. 😊

[@Swagat_kP]

Shumi doesn't like cars. Don't regret your choice based on someone who's biased towards bikes. 🫂

[@30harbakshsingh45]

@@Swagat_kPno no it’s just the tatas

[@prakharmishra5581]

I am happy with my Nexon. It is my first car. Would I like other cars after that YES. But it's a nice car to have as your first.

[@pvnewport]

Shumi reminds me of an average IT sector employee who is disgruntled with everything - unhappy with company, unhappy with project, unhappy with promotion, unhappy with salary, unhappy with hike, unhappy with canteen food, unhappy with that broken tap in restroom - some sort of an addiction to whine about everything and not leaving a chance to see the positives

[@prakashpatra2038]

Altroz racer is the perfect hatchback in the city and outside as well 🙌

[@motorinc]

❤️

[@trustshankar]

25 people liked it and none of them will buy

[@ub678]

On an unrelated note, I'd love an episode introducing the MotorInc team. Their work is fantastic, from visuals, to music, and edits.

[@motorinc]

Thanks for asking UB! 🙏🏾

[@parameswaraniyer5478]

At this point, Tata should just stop naming it's car variants and just introduce a "Build your own car". Feature wise pricing, add whatever you want and get the final price. 🤷🏻‍♂️ I don't think even the sales guy can remember all these variants.

[@surajshanbhag]

If elders shouldn't race, what is Schumi doing at race tracks multiple times a year? As usual great banter!

[@motorinc]

Not racing! But going faasst!

[@kshitijpandey6514]

@surajshanbhag you are calling him an elderly person Man is just 50 I guess Not too old so racing is fine

[@siddharthraghuwanshi3457]

​@@motorincjust like altrozz racer😅😅

[@surajshanbhag]

@@kshitijpandey6514 he only has mentioned in his 50's which could also mean 59. On a serious note, knowing Schumi, he wouldnt want anyone who is not actually racing for a living, racing at all. His (and everyone at TWO riding school) intentions of going to tracks most times is to help others become better riders, 1 rider at a time.

[@kshitijpandey6514]

​@@surajshanbhagfair enough was just saying that as a joke

[@videobot6]

Shumi might not be a fan of TATA's strategy of having a million variants but it's clearly working for them. Having so many variants gives consumers the flexibility to pick and choose what they want in their car which no other manufacturers offer. When we're spending lakhs on a car I believe people don't mind taking their own time going through the feature list and comparing the variants to pick what suits them the best.

[@motorinc]

Hey VB, good to have your take. Choice is good. Too much choice is crippling. 🤷‍♂️

[@Aditya90sKZ]

I like having other way around give me choice of features list i can add and pay for only those. Sell the car with all safety tech with just the essential and I'll decide which features i want

[@siddharthraghuwanshi3457]

​@@motorincespecially for dealers itself..

[@amitkrupal1234]

Tata is still missing lot of cars, No cars in A-segment. Does Nano's failure made Tata tram lethargic. Also why Tata isn't launching CUV on Tiago's platform. Just saw Suzuki's June 2024 sales 1.2 lakhs with 7 out 17 models in top 10. Tata might have only 1-3 models. Punch might be no 1 in sales. But sometimes success blind you(Tata) They need more cars instead of more variants

[@give-me-guts-to-accept-truth]

This video should be published on ...tv so everybody can watch it and they couldn't know the truth about highly overrated altroz#racer

[@sho_k1]

Dear editor please make compilations of kartikeya's awesome sound effects and post it at the end of the year. 4:05, it was awesome.

[@NripanNath]

I second this!

[@motorinc]

Noted! 😆

[@vithalbhai6066]

I loved the ugggfffhhhh in the carburettor part in the this connect episode 10

[@himanshutanwani_]

Adding to the list - 14:38

[@aniketvaidya628]

Sales team of Tata : Alok Nath Service team of Tata: Rami Reddy Ownership experience: Nirupama Roy

[@anubhavroy]

Great episode guys. One of the main things that I have faced as a prior Tata Nexon owner, the BS6 variant, is the fact that these cars are not reliable. I had that car for around two years and there was a coolant issue which led to the coolant getting mixed in with the engine oil and I ended up having to sell the car because of all the hassles at a much depreciated price than the actual value. For this issue, I blame the car itself and a lot more blame goes to the Tata service across the metro cities of Kolkata and Delhi for never servicing properly despite me sending the car time and again. This has just made me very very apprehensive towards newer Tata cars. The new Altroz Racer as far as I could tell from your episode is just another cosmetic upgrade whereas they need to work on their engines and reliability. All of this is just a distraction. P.S I now drive a 2018 GT TSI 1.2 and couldn’t be happier.

[@motorinc]

Happy GT TSI-ing! ❤️

[@jayraut]

Sumi woke up and chose violence 😂 roasted both Indian car buyers and companies 😅

[@kshitijpandey6514]

He expects us to increase our standard but we just sit back and disagree and worship what we have But he has experienced world class stuff in his riding career and he expects us to feel those emotions I guess Which is why he questions our taste cuz I am pretty sure manufacturers love to lobby instead of taking the competition head on That's why he was proud of what the new himalayan 450 which did try to be the best adv it possibly could which is why he liked it Hope more manufacturers take on the foreign competition than lobby against it🤞🤞🤞🤞

[@motorinc]

Absolutely!

[@museycal]

Its not good to question Tata's consistency. I mean they have been rolling out consistently safe & good cars, which are consistently lacking tight QC & niggle-y, and supported by consistently bad dealership experience!😂

[@motorinc]

You almost had us there @museycal!😅

[@srajandikshit7590]

If those Tata stans could read they'd be very upset

[@Raj-fp1zq]

Indeed Glanza/Baleno are the best all rounder. K series engine that’s a love and buttery smooth. They are the king when it comes to 1.2 NA. i20 is best when we go for Turbo variants and worth all penny. Altroz is one which I want to love but it has niggles at engine end which is heart of any vehicle. It’s like Tank but having a rust at function level which spoils everything. Tata needs to overcome this at earliest and I will be the first one to book and say vocal for local ❤. Waiting…

[@subraaaanshu]

Psych exam in an hour guys, I'll be back to tell how it goes and watch this!

[@motorinc]

All the best! Keep us posted!

[@rahulsinha9031]

How was your exam?

[@tanmaygirotra2724]

How was it??

[@PureRythm]

Ayo, how was the exam?

[@subraaaanshu]

thanks guys ! it went phenomenal !

[@cparunsankar7363]

We need shumi going for a car launch P S :I am never going to stop commenting until this happens.

[@motorinc]

We are with you!

[@gokulakrishnan8571]

​@@motorincEspecially Tata launch! And Ofc, he has to remember all the variants along with the pricing, some of which would not be revealed at launch :)

[@harshdeshmukh9603]

I saw the tata altroz racer in the showroom And oh boy does it look so good looking just love the car for it looks.

[@pranavaskumar9307]

Polo not being a sporty car is a great perspective! I have a Taigun GT+ with 17s and have noticed that understeer thing in a few occasions of pushing it beyond the limit. Especially with the factory Goodyear Tyres which are bad. Now I have changed to Conti UC6s and it is much better to drive but I have not pushed it beyond 10/10ths yet. Also the fuel economy has dropped by 7-10%. The more I drive this car, the more I realise it is more of an awesome GT than a sporty car. So according to you, how has the chassis balance changed from Polo/Vento to Taigun/Virtus? In terms of understeery nature etc? Would love to know your thoughts! Also, what would be the best sporty car below a BMW 3 Series? Or let’s say under 50 lakhs? Just the driving dynamics without considering anything else? It seems to be a dying breed! Also it’d be interesting to know what are such options we used to have that are not present anymore! Maybe we can chat in the comments or would love to see a complete podcast on this topic!

[@sahilyadav4494]

There should be an episode on indian brands as well, like you did on japanese brands on podcast. Like how well are they doing 2W, 4W, ev and all. And where Indian automobile industry stand at global level.

[@tanush7789]

I like the oversized tees that @Kartikeya wears in many of these podcasts.. Where can I get those ?

[@zonejvm]

@@tanush7789 looks really comfortable, even I want to know

[@anubhavdev33]

After using Nexon for 3 years now im already inclined towards buying a foriegn brand as my next vehicle. So im looking for a new bike and im like i cant go for Indian brand again, i want a superior quality product. No compromises! No RE, no Hero!

[@uthkarshnaik6608]

Altroz Racer or fronx turbo which is a better balanced purchase , I would think fronx turbo as racer isn't racer enough.

[@divyanshchaudhary6260]

i am in the market for the same class of cars what do you suggest me i20nline n6 manual or altroz racer?? yes i will be looking out for test drive but whats your suggestion where should i lean my self according to your suggestion

[@motorinc]

Envious! N Line please. Let us know once you have driven both?

[@theinsanity522]

You guys seem to really enjoy the Baleno. Can you please discuss that car in detail too? Perhaps covering the older generations too

[@amlanbeherabulabuli]

Hey Karthikeya, what would be your opinion on the Abarth Punto as an enthusiast car? Looking to get a used one.

[@daninwheels1006]

You are absolutely bang on right on Mumbai-Pune highway cruising around 120 kmph you'll always feel a gitter no way it's disturbing or uncomfortable but yes you'll feel it, but again it's very comfortable

[@RajaSekar-dw1kb]

This engine should have been the one when the car was launched, given the beautiful platform it is built on.

[@motorinc]

So true RS!

[@Dabbtrabb]

Question : would the stripes affect lane keep assist on SUVs following the racer?

[@motorinc]

That’s a good question. We hope not!

[@sreejat]

Another MotorInc video morning! Good Morning 🏍️

[@motorinc]

Morning Sreejat!

[@thedarkknight1758]

My Grande Punto still sets the bar high in driving dynamics and very engaging irrespective of road conditions.

[@gururajsawant]

Exactly... Very well said about the sport variant from any brand... The best way is done by Hyundai because the normal i20,Creta and i20 N-line and Creta N-line feel like different cars and drive like what it was meant to be the Hot hatchback...

[@motorinc]

Yep! It’s legit sportier.

[@Rururay]

First comment here. We've had our iturbo for a couple of years now. Wife and I love it to bits. It's a joy to drive out on open and twisty roads. When this racer came out i was a bit relieved that the the mechanical upgrades were only slight. It killed the fomo I had since the racer was announced last year. I felt this review was slightly lacking - I'd have liked it if karthikeya touched upon the updated ice system, whether or not the ventilated seats do their job well, sunroof functionality - these are new to the altroz after all. Lacks a comprehensive interior review in general. Usually the 'first' series addresses these.

[@motorinc]

Thank you for the feedback @Rururay. We'll hopefully get to test it for longer and if we do, we'll address the common questions there too.

[@user-we7mt5mz8y]

Hi Team, I had one question which I wanted to ask and also your opinion if that's ok. Why don't Mahindra and TATA join hand? Mahindra will get products like altroz and Tiago and TATA will have their Engine + Transmission. Just a thought

[@AmP_BYD]

About the suspension: I own i-Turbo for the past two and a half years and I do not understand the need to tune it further. Cause, the suspension is clearly mature and very stable at good speeds. I have no experience with i20 (n-line or regular), all the talks about the suspension tunes for the n-line and how it gives better stability than the non n-line, clearly states that i20 regualr is not fairly stable at good speeds. But, cutrent Altroz lineup is very stable. Maybe Altroz, didnt need a suspension tune or chage. Even if they did, it would make very samll difference with the existing Altroz lineup. What your thoughts on this?

[@Kiranthaus]

@@AmP_BYD i own the regular i20 and have test driven the nline many times and altroz, the normal i20 has a softer suspension compared to the nline, the dampers are stiffer on nline. This doesnt mean the normal i20 is unstable, its just more comfortable and has more body roll. While the nline handled superb at speeds through corners, the car stays more flat and doesn’t nose dive under breaking, doesn’t understeer like the polo does and rear is stable unlike the altroz. Ive lowered my normal i20 on cobra and it’s drastically improved the handle. Its on par with the stock nline now but nline with cobra suspension is just better, the stiffer damper help a lot. Yes its a lot uncomfortable but for a driving enthusiasts it doesnt matter. The nline is better than any other hatchback sold under 15laks in india.

[@motorinc]

It would be fun to have both together to see what happens.

[@Ariwin10]

Absolutely spot on with the "experience" factor of owning a Tata or any other brand. Being an owner of 4 years old grand i10 nios amt and 1 year old altroz dca, I must say I wish I had gone ahead for the i20 ivt. Hyundai just gives a hasslefree experience overall.

[@KeyurGoswami]

How's your overall experience with DCA (Specific to Gearbox)

[@Ariwin10]

@@KeyurGoswami it's good till now. Smooth and quick shifts, been on long drive Pune to Goa in flat highways, narrow and uneven country and hilly roads, no problem at all. And yes it's talking point is always the suspension comfort. My comparison reference is my own grand i10 nios amt. For an amt gearbox nothing can beat Hyundai.

[@KeyurGoswami]

@@Ariwin10 thanks, I have NA altroz petrol 2021 model and looking to upgrade to automatic but waiting for DCA and turbo combination. I drive from Bangalore to Ahmedabad twice year and yes suspension comfort is top notch and it’s mile muncher without any issue. But NA is slow as slug

[@MokshDhawan]

Hey guys! Been waiting for an Altroz episode for a long time now as I purchased the previous iturbo last year. In the time I’ve spent with it, I found it’s a beautifully handling car, in fact surprisingly so I’ve you’ve ever driven the Punch or the Nexon. The NA engine felt absolutely gutless, the turbo allows for a little more enthusiastic driving but it only fills in for a deficiency in performance rather than adding a surge of power. I’m wondering how big the delta is between the performance of the iturbo and the iturbo+. Would it be worth it to explore an ECU retune to match that 10BHP gain or let it be as it is?

[@motorinc]

Not enough for your to FOMO! Enjoy your Altroz MD!

[@harshittiwary458]

4:16 completely agree. There are a lot of vocal Polo fans out there, but the Figo was the benchmark in terms of handling characteristics and fun to drive nature.

[@motorinc]

❤️

[@QuickFlickDashCam]

Did they fix the offset steering wheel? And how do buyers miss out on this? When Altroz was launched, I remember going to the showroom and sitting in the demo car and the first thing I noticed was the steering is offset. Same thing with Nexon.

[@motorinc]

They can’t change those elements once the car is in production. That has to be fixed at the drawing board level. 😑

[@NikhilSinghtherock]

After owning nexon and altroz for the last 4 years , I'm hearing these issues for the first time 😅 Haters need to just relax

[@QuickFlickDashCam]

@@motorinc when I saw the Nexon facelift episode where Karthik mentioned the steering in Nexon and Altroz is offset, I was ecstatic because none of my friends believed it! MotorInc is the only channel that has mentioned this on record

[@Iam_AkhilKapoor]

Hi Kartikeya, Out of Altroz Racer & I20 Nline which one would you pick?

[@motorinc]

It’s a clear pick - N Line. If it was a regular kind of hatch then Baleno.

[@Iam_AkhilKapoor]

@@motorinc Thanx! Hv booked the same

[@motorinc]

Congratulations @Iam_AkhilKapoor! We wish you a wonderful time with the car!

[@athullal7438]

Where do you get your shirts from dude looks cool

[@yuvrajdarekar5056]

I purchased the tata tiago last year, it doesnt get driven a lot (8000km till now) major problem i am facing car gives mileage of 12-13kmpl the tata service people say nothing is wrong with the car (I am yet to take it out to a 3rd party mechanic) and there are two small problems in the software sometimes when i start the car the sound system starts and works but the screen doesnt it gets resolved by a restart and once the reverse sensors stopped working with a warning on screen saying take it to the service center which again got resolved by a restart. Finally another small issue the air pump they give us with it complimentary it stopped working after the first use. I believe all of these issues are small issues but they do add up to an inconvenient experience except for the mileage because oh my god i am a student and that car drinks petrol like a college student drinks OMR.

[@veeras2020]

You both are rockstars. Thanks for this channel

[@motorinc]

Thanks for being here with us!

[@uthkarshnaik6608]

I turbo+ with DCA minus the flashy cosmetic bits is a better choice, now my question is should I wait for this variant or buy a fronx turbo AT?🤔

[@namanbansal3394]

Either Tata's conversion system is faulty or they just boost the economy numbers. My Tiago xza-petrol shows economy of 16km/pl in the city and 21 km/pl out on the highway, but it actually delivers 11-12 km/pl in the city and 17-18km/pl on the highway.

[@archanashinde2220]

Which ev scooter should i buy under 1.5 lakh for regular commute...pls answer

[@motorinc]

Hi Archana! You can use this rule of thumb to decide for yourself. The EV scooter you get should have at least three times your daily commute as its true range (So 90km for a 30km/day commute). This will ensure that you don't have to charge it multiple times a week and gives you enough range if you have a longer commute for some reason on one or two days. At this budget, there are three EVs we'd suggest you to test ride: the Ather 450S, the Ather Rizta, and the TVS iQube. MotorInc currently doesn't recommend Ola products but if you're interested, please test ride that too. Once you do, you should know which one you like best.

[@KamaleshJha-y2d]

Currently I am an owner of Honda CB350rs & completed almost 26000kms & planning to upgrade something fresh & different! These 3 are on my wishlist Honda NX500 Suzuki vstrom 800DE Honda transalp 750 Will you guyz cover these bikes since it has been a long time these bikes launched in India🤷

[@AustinFernandes-m8j]

Even I am waiting for honda NX500 review for so so long😢

[@rohannnsurve]

Waiting for the boys to cover the big bikes

[@kirankhatpe]

Damn this was unexpected. I was holding by decision to book Racer for this episode and I am glad I did.

[@elijahnissi]

Absolutely brilliant video. Loved the conversation. The summary is brilliant😂

[@motorinc]

Thanks for joining us @elijahnissi.

[@SundarSrinivasHarish]

Why doesn't the Abarth Punto ever come into conversations of used, cheap(ish) hatches to buy? Its always the Polo GT TSI. You don't even need to work a lot on the suspension unless you're looking for an autocross build, because it is a fair bit stiffer than the regular Puntos. The chassis was always great, and it comes with the T-Jet engine in its highest state of factory tune. The only drawback is the skinny tyres.

[@MDK2306]

100

[@pranavp386]

Same issue as the Polo. Average chassis, average suspension but decent drivetrain.

[@motorinc]

The issue with it was the weight. And it was still a bit tall. These affected handling and performance. It could have been so much more.

[@vethanishanth6667]

Can I ask how is the steering feedback, I have been listening to complaints for most cars suffering with a pull towards left.... Is it here in this car as well...

[@motorinc]

We’ll wait for a full test and then get back. This was a brief time with the Altroz.

[@vethanishanth6667]

@@motorinc So, what I understood from the podcast is, this car has more Tooning than Tuning...🫠🤣

[@prateekacharya8792]

I have heard that turbos give different mileage based on the type of petrol used and higher octane fuels have higher mileage is this true? If yes could you please tell us what type of fuel did you used to get that 22 -23 kmpl figures.

[@beautybucks]

@@prateekacharya8792 it’s because of the sixth gear.

[@explorebharat8111]

You forgot about blind view monitoring . This is the cheapest car with ventilated seat and blind view monitoring system. Also 120 ps at 12 lakhs and 11sec 0-100 is almost as good as slavia or virtus 1 .0 at their base price with good mileage. If this has tall seating even being a hatch back what would you comment on germans tall seating. I am not tata fan boy.

[@motorinc]

Thanks for pointing it out! Appreciate it EB!

[@srikarvundavalli5934]

The i20 N line has the same 120ps from a much more refined engine and a very nice shifting manual gearbox for the same price. I’m not sure why anyone would pick the Altroz racer over that thing. Also the N line has a sub 10 second 0-100

[@explorebharat8111]

@@srikarvundavalli5934 weight difference is the issue. Altroz will has scored 5 star and i20 i guess isn't even 3 star

[@rishabhpai1021]

The intro is 🔥 as always, i always listen to it twice 😂

[@pahulpsg]

When I saw the Altroz Racer's ad on Instagram for the first time, I was excited - finally a hot-hatch! It was full of beautiful images, that I realized were heavily edited / AI generated. Then I read the caption. They'd highlighted the paintjob, sunroof, comfort, infotainment screen, and whatnot. No words about the suspension, no 0-100, no performance data. No substance, all gimmick. C****ya samajh rakha hai in logon ne customers ko -_-

[@motorinc]

Go faster looking. That’s top priority.

[@MikBan]

Sadly that's what we have come to in India. People love the gimmicks more than what's underneath your butt. That's why no hot hatch is on sale today except one. Punto Abarth, Polo GT TSI, Baleno RS, Tiago JTP - they all died because they offered substance and less/no gimmicks. At the end of the day you need numbers.

[@athuldominic]

Citreon C3 turbo available now​@@MikBan

[@utsavmittal]

Great observations for how Indian brands can be successful and how important this is as we have all the logistics to export our made in india products. I think it will be hard for any brand to scale down the number of variants as this will have impact during servicing and reselling the car. Tata should hire Shumi as a product marketing consultant

[@motorinc]

All they have to do is ask. We just want better machines.

[@kshitijpandey6514]

Batata is thing which Shumi suggested Jawa to do right ?? How would he feel about 4 engines with different tuning on same chasis

[@motorinc]

That suggestion was specific to Jawa @kshitijpandey6514 because looking at the bikes' appearances, you'd think they'd all ride differently but the engine tuning is the same on all of them. It isn't applicable universally!

[@kshitijpandey6514]

​@@motorincah ok thanks for clearing that up

[@Snazees]

If you like Tata Altroz Racer and holding back due to the way it looks, just take it to a reputed detailing studio after delivery and get the bonnet wrapped in body colour shade. Not sure about Orange but the White and Grey wraps are easily available.

[@motorinc]

😆👍🏽👍🏽

[@kshitijpandey6514]

37:27 I thought shumi would call it Altrozev not Altroz E V😅😅😂😂

[@motorinc]

😁

[@tummalapallisaurabh8708]

Awesome content. However the thing you mentioned about the VWs platform caught my attention. Can you please elaborate on that? What’s wrong with the suspension? Thanks!

[@motorinc]

Hullo! Could we do some self promotion? Check out our View on the Taigun? The suspension isn’t supple enough for our conditions - especially the SUVs. The Virtus/Slavia are better than them.

[@tummalapallisaurabh8708]

@@motorinc Why not? I love your videos 👍

[@Rj-vd1we]

Drop the full version of the intro music. It bangs hard.

[@adhirajbarmeshwar1893]

The rainforest challenge comment does make one think. If not for the SUV craze in the market, Tata could have done such a great crossover. This is such a Subaru thing.

[@motorinc]

😆

[@akashkashyap1728]

I have a question though it is not related to racer or tata but general question regarding the engine oil (SYNTHETIC OR MINERAL) despite of being simple, its confusing who should go for synthetic and who should go for the mineral oil.

[@motorinc]

Everyone should aim for Synthetic, Akash. It's more expensive but better and lasts longer. Everyone on a budget should think semi-synth or mineral. Easy 😊 The key is to make sure that you have the right oil (car oil vs motorcycle oils, for example) and the right grade (in your manual)

[@krishnendugoswami4001]

Love the intro as always❤

[@motorinc]

Thank you Krishnendu.

[@akshaypandey7892]

Rather than working on launching new cars Tata should work on their engines and electronics for 1 year and they can take over the market. They are curving everything but not curving the engine manufacturing trajectory.

[@daninwheels1006]

So many people are totally unaware of Altroz Diesel which has 90 bhp and 200 nm torque and boy oh boy it's a beast with it's perfect steering feedback and suspension setup and that lovely chassis it's so so good and I'm a proud owner of an August 2020 Tata Altroz Diesel ❤

[@motorinc]

Glad to hear that @daninwheels1006. Thanks for sharing!

[@RangerV8]

Shumi is the real life version of the phrase“setting cat among pigeons”. Though I find his views of safety very irksome but mad props and respect where its due, calling spade a spade in these time where auto companies will shadow-ban you for even looking at them wrong.

[@motorinc]

Thank you for the backhanded compliment @RangerV8!😅

[@samhans18]

It's cz of kartikeya i cancelled my booking for xuv3xo, company called for pdi and i still feel shy about it but had to follow kartikey and booked glanza was not entirety convinced but now seems to be enjoying thanks kartikeya!!!

[@motorinc]

Hey SH! How’s it going? Please could you keep us posted. Glad to hear about your decision. 🙏🏾

[@samhans18]

@@motorinc definitely will keep you posted, have driven 300km so far ! Was in mkt for AT c-suv car like sonet dct or xuv3xo at or creta lower trims but watched all podcast and videos picked up glanza was getting a better deal with toyota service!

[@harissampath]

Shumi asking the question at the begining is it new and karthik's expression was really every tata owners reaction. And i love it when these 2 talk. People see the humor and without knowing listeners are taught on every podacst. They are the teachers we need.😂

[@chandrahasacherry]

I heard the stripes are just stickers, which are removable. Correct me if I am wrong

[@NripanNath]

Heard the same thing

[@motorinc]

You are right!

[@Vehify]

I am one of those who own the Alteoz i-Turbo. The sole reason to purchase was that Polo was getting discontinued and i20 N-Line only had an automatic transmission and JTPs were already gone. Worst thing about my car I feel is the gearbox which I hope has improved with the 6-speed as the 5 speed is bad. Still love my car though and for me it’s best in the world. Thanks MotorInc

[@whitecarbonn5609]

The Altroz racer with DCA would be better right?

[@adi6182]

From what we've seen on the Nexon with the DCA, the manual is the better choice.

[@santoshpatil1079]

@18.40 when shumi said stick your head out of sunroof, Just imagine & google and person driving a tank & looking out of the hatch, you will instantly imagine what it will look in car.🤣🤣

[@motorinc]

😆

[@aniketvaidya628]

I was a former fanboy of Tata. Desh ki mitti, desh ka namak . With inflated pride and acidity I bought a tata vehicle. The sales team was amazing. When the time came for servicing, with every service of the vehicle I could see degradation in how the vehicle drove, how it handled , reduced fuel efficiency etc. Strangely just a day after the expiration of the extended warranty, TASS told me the front suspension needs replacement, steering rack is damaged etc. Changed above stuff. Don't drive the car now. Got old maruti zen , it laughs at me every day. Bloody fanboy😂

[@motorinc]

Oh wow this was a rollercoaster of a read @aniketvaidya628. We'd suggest that you drive it intermittently though because parked cars can actually lead to more problems.

[@callsigncrusader9877]

I think we deserve a proper comparison between alteros reserve and i20 DCT

[@varuntiwari8444]

Between this and the N line manual....which feels a bit more premium and exciting to drive?

[@motorinc]

N Line is better finished and more serious feeling.

[@jayanthmakam4547]

Totally agreed, one of my frnd has previous petrol variant, performance is not great, in highways, it struggles to overtake. Also tata cars, i felt breaking performance is also not good.....my insight is from driving harrier, punch and altroz.

[@motorinc]

Thanks for sharing that with us JM!

[@ringoman08]

Appreciate the work guys ! Love your content ❤

[@motorinc]

🙏🏾 Thanks RM!

[@vickeyshetty1422]

I totally agree with Karthik. I bought the Altroz when it was lauched (2020). I was really excited to buy it. But, when I drove it, it was quite the disapointment. Some things right, some things wrong (mainly engine). I had to adjust myself for it to make sense as a buying option. My dad thought it was good, and not too much an issue. So we bought it. But, I still love the car with all its downsides. I do enjoy driving it. The last car that I enjoyed driving was the polo before that. Altroz is as good or slightly better than polo's handling. Never felt that I lose control over the car at whatever speed I go. I have touched 170 which is where the limiter is I guess becase the throttle didnt do much after that. It was just a one time thing, I know shumi is gonna yell at me for that 😅. I wished for altroz to have nexon's engine way back in 2020 and it has become the reality now.

[@motorinc]

Hey VS! Thanks for sharing that with us! Which engine?

[@vickeyshetty1422]

@@motorinc Its the 3 cylinder NA engine. I knew the i20 was gonna launch its new model. But, couldnt wait that long coz I waited too long for altroz to launch.

[@monnappasonu1]

The sporty hatch I could count on was the Abarth Punto. It was simply too good. Polo GT may come next after the aftermarket suspension of course. TATA has to either bring in back the JTP variant as this feels a Little too normal for a Racer Tag. Agreeing to the point that TATA isn't consistent enough.

[@motorinc]

Hullo! Have you spent time with the little scorpion?

[@monnappasonu1]

@@motorinc Yup! And it was fantastic. I still get goosebumps when I think of it. Really wish it was made available again.

[@vijayanandkrishnanv]

Every video of MotorInc are like therapy for motor heads

[@sid0p257]

Guys I'm thinking of getting the Altroz diesel please give your opinion

[@nitinsinha1221]

Can you do a This Connect episode on the future of VW and Skoda? I've just spent 20 lakh on Slavia and now there is news all over the internet that the India arm is in trouble and wants to sell stake. I understand it won't leave India abruptly, but I also have no idea on what exactly they are going to do in the future. Please.

[@rohith4477]

Sir please make a video on the new xtreme 160 4v dual channel abs varient Is it a good deal?? Or should i consider apache 160 4v?? Please tell me sir... And when can we expect apache 160 4v facelift??

[@motorinc]

Thanks for the suggestion Rohit!

[@shreeharimenon5275]

Please make a video on Xiaomi SU7 and your thoughts on the future in India.

[@motorinc]

Hi @shreeharimenon5275, we believe currently it's just a showcase. If Xiaomi decides to launch it in India, we'll share our thoughts once we get to drive it.

[@shailesh1037]

Eagerly Waiting for detailed talk on Bajaj CNG Freedom

[@motorinc]

Noted!

[@adhokshravishankar]

I knew something was off when I saw the poster with that face of @kartiksinghee sir. Now the video confirms it. Any idea about when the Altroz "Racer" would be getting the DCA transmission?

[@motorinc]

Not yet. But they can since they have with the Nexon.

[@NripanNath]

4:20 N Line representation! Good point about them focusing more on the chassis and handling, which is very apparent when you drive one. Also, huge props to Hyundai for keeping the enthusiast car segment alive for the common folk!

[@motorinc]

Hullo NN! How long have you had it?

[@NripanNath]

@@motorinc Completed 7 months now.

[@axitsuthar7900]

A video on different types of Turbo engines ? Just like how Suzuki's 1.2L 4 cylinder NA engine is different as compare to Hyundai's 1.2L 4C. There are few different names out there. VW's TSI , Suzuki's Boosterjet , Mahindra 3xo's TCMPFi & TGDI & so so. Because most of the people think car companies just add a turbo in their engines. But I think in reality it's more than that.

[@YogeshKumar-qp4hj]

Is it only me or did anyone else see the driver side strip is not in middle but closer to the other strip especially in that orange colour. But still nice content 👍

[@motorinc]

Oh no!

[@rajeshsiva6533]

Still room for improvement in R&D sector of Tata, to feel it's presence in Indian road in coming days

[@motorinc]

Definitely!

[@wilsonmpaul]

We are still not able to listen to the video on KZbin after locking the screen despite having KZbin Premium as well as the All Access membership :(

[@motorinc]

Hello Wilson, this is a know issue with KZbin. Please try and update your app and see if it works.

[@sreejat]

Haha I’ve got the same problem seems like a KZbin issue

[@Asaritwo]

We have Updated App but don't seem to work 😅​@@motorinc

[@motorinc]

Sorry to hear that. We have heard from some users that the newer version fixed that.

[@nathandsouza7104]

Why cant manufacturers sells cars with the basic requirements and the features as a option list, where we can choose what we want?

[@motorinc]

That’s a must now.

[@main_stream_media_is_a_joke]

A made to order with just the components you want would be a dream....and most people would willingly wait for some time before taking delivery. All extra features are basically plug and play/slot in components.....so it's really a mystery that companies do not offer a "make your own car" option on their web site. But then it's not just an issue with India.......afaik no one in the world gives the customer the option of "make your own car"....other than the super luxury segment.

[@aviral_mongra]

On the Curvv, I had some doubts regarding the platforms. Surely, the Curvv.ev would be made on their specially introduced "Acti.ev" platform. But the ICE Curvv - which I still think of as an extended Nexon - is that gonna still be on the Nexon's (or Vista's) "X1" platform? Because as far as I could tell, the "Acti.ev" was EV exclusive, right?

[@motorinc]

Yes the Acti.ev is for the EVs. We’ll find out about the ICE soon.

[@sachinkmehta]

On the contrary, Narain Kartikeyan has the opposite view on the Tata altroz racer, he seems excited with engine, handling and specially direct steering controls, which he tested om race track. 2nd best is I10 N line. Can you also check it performance on the race track too.😊

[@motorinc]

Hi Sachin, do you know who was Narain’s sponsor? 😆

[@KulkarniAjay]

Listening to this I really feel bad that most of hatchbacks are phasing out or have poor sales. I am big fan of hot hatches. I badly miss the chance to own & drive Polo GTs(Both TSI & TDI), Figos. I got a used 90HP Punto and what a car that is. I have to for almoat 4 years now and thoroughly enjoy it. One more point I would highlight is slow phasing out of diesel cars. Turbo petrol may be as efficient or even more, but ample low down torque of diesel is unbeatable.

[@uthkarshnaik6608]

Honestly I am not a suv guy, but for the pathetic roads in bangalore I would like the higherish ground clearance and plush suspension, so I was looking forward to this car. I rode i20 nline with 5 seated. My family felt a bit firm and felt paying almost 16lac on road was a stretch. Although I love it , I have to respect my family's wishes. Now adding to my confusion is should I wait for a sensible altroz variant or buy fronx turbo , and if I am waiting should I wait a bit longer for the skoda sub 4m car. My dad keeping checking with me every month if that's launched yet. So many choices😂😂