Taurox the Brass Bull Immortal Empires Campaign Review

[@holdinmcgroin8639]

"You could go as far as to say they were overpowered" They definitely were. Blowing up half the world in one turn is fucking insane

[@hawkticus_history_corner]

"They" weren't. Taurox specifically was. The rest couldn't nuke half the world anywhere near as fast as he could.

[@doktarr]

The only full map conquest I ever did in WH2 was with Taurox, because it was so easy. Even on VH/VH I just rolled over everything. I wasn't even trying to cheese things and I still had turns where Taurox won 15+ battles.

[@arisplugis5197]

the trick is not to blow up the world when playing as a Beastman. in long term you can get more money and dread by defeating enemy armies not by erasing their settlements. it is weird, but it is more profitable for Beastman to play as a philanthropist not as a destroyer. you have to think of yourself as a parasite. that wants to keep its host well and alive. to suck his blood, not to kill it.

[@andriykorobov]

problem is even if you don't cheese and just play as intended you still can beat a legendary campaign in 50 turns in wh2

[@4f52]

Yep and it's so much fun but kids can't appreciate it

[@curticusmaximus]

I'm enjoying the recent reviews being a bit more detailed than the first handful

[@buttqueef9900]

Me too. They started like 1-2 minutes long. Much prefer this.

[@SIDLOTF]

Agreed, I like it when he goes more in-depth and does almost like a little mini "campaign guide" giving you recommended starts and stuff and how to actually play the faction well, like his video on Karl Franz.

[@MollymaukT]

Legendary difficulty campaign = more enemies more enemies = more battles more battles = more rampage more rampage = easy campaign STONKS

[@brunogabriel2886]

My first legendary campaign was with this bull

[@diogovieira5563]

you can select any beastmen campaign at legendary and put chaos invasion at legendary too, they will win for you.

[@OldBaldWookiee]

​@@diogovieira5563 yeah that's one of my favorite parts of playing beastmen. Alliance with chaos lol OP

[@687grayfox]

Thoroughly agree with your assessment here Legend, Taurox has some of the best LL mechanics CA has ever come up with, and his campaign is an absolute blast to play. Shame that they can't make all the LLs as fun as him, but by the dark and twisted gods of chaos did the Beastmen fans put in the years of suffering to earn him and the rework.

[@TauroxTheBrassBull]

TAUROX BEST

[@BigPapaKaiser]

NO GRIMGOR BEST, WAAAGH!!!

[@cordgoss]

Yeah my boy!!!! TAUROX LOVES HIS WHEATIES!!!

[@arisplugis5197]

the most powerful Beastman mechanic is so called recruit ambush. even if you are recruiting just one expendable unit, your army will go back in ambush stance after the battle is over. this is insanely powerful. my record is to defeat 6 AI armies in ambush battles in one turn. no other faction can do that. so this is why i haven't played any other factions than Beastman in WH3. i'm addicted to this thing.

[@ates423]

Can you explain this a bit more? I don’t understand. I play beastmen a lot so this may be useful

[@arisplugis5197]

@@ates423 if you recruit even just a single Beastman unit the army goes into camp stance automatically. if you are not inside heardstone that is. it become an ultimate ambush stance therefore. because after the battle is over they go back in ambush camp to finish recruitment. so they can do the same ambush to the next incoming enemy army. and next, and next. unlimited. this is best to abuse near to heardstone. or raid the enemy territory with weak army and recruit a unit with your strong army in front of them. so you can get multiple armies against one in an ambush battle. happy smashing and auto resolving! but i am not sure if this is useful for you as a Warhammer player. look at me! this is a reason why i can not play other factions. have tried. but i start to miss this cheese too much and going back to Beastman campaign after making approximately 30 turns with other factions. i am not happy. Beastman kinda owns me.

[@ates423]

@@arisplugis5197 Ou that sounds super clever. Could you make a video on it?

[@aputin654]

You need to have 10% movement range to do this, and that is the amount required to enter hidden encampment. There is no need to recruit anything but you can, in addition to building in the horde. Each of the options after burning a settlement also give you enough move range to adopt the camp stance even if you had 0% left when you attacked.

[@paulius369]

Loving these, great inspiration for future campaigns

[@rdbiv6874]

Hey @LegendofTotalWar, you mentioned the dread cost for units and armies and how it would make more sense being swapped. I actually think it was intentionally done this way and not an oversight. You actually make a majority of your dread from the building chain once you have multiple armies with a fully upgraded horde. Having that many armies also follows the herd/horde theme and makes it a lot easier to cover the large blood ground spaces between your herdstones. They are sorta of like the skaven, except they do the tide part better. Anyone reading this, I encourage you to try playing them in such a manner as that was what I believe was originally intended. Making use of multiple armies to cover ground and swarming any threat with your ambush stance. Staying hidden in your encampment until you're ready to strike. With all your accumulated dread, make your legendary lord an elite army to put the cherry on top of your horde.

[@1event_horizon945]

Taurox is firmly one of my favorite campaigns. There is a beautiful directness to the campaign. You are a huge hulking range monster and you are gonna make that everyone else's problem.

[@upneetrai]

Once I stomped the woodelves, I went out of my way to go pick a fight with Scarry B and it was epic.

[@Guderidin]

I like how the videos are getting longer

[@SWtaervdesn]

Aye, I noticed too but that matches my desire. I deeply appreciate how much depth Legend goes into them compared to the beginning. The more the better.

[@maxonee13]

It's always nice to wake up and start the morning with these vids. It'll be so sad when all the Legendary Lords are covered. Maybe when major reworks happen, some lords can be revisited?

[@libertylemonz7145]

Taurox is one of those characters who is so much better than the other lords in a faction that he basically negates the other LLs Edit: Malagor is available to Taurox's faction through Beastmen mechanics so there's no reason to ever start as Malagor

[@Moritz19081980]

I prefer Malagor.

[@Guillimann]

Fact, the others are unplayable because of how awesome and fun he is

[@Ax_Dj0]

Malagor is way better then Taurox, Morghur also really good, and better 1man-doomstack. Khazrak is a little bit meh

[@roymongin8886]

IDK, Flying FoD spam and Stinky Boi are both pretty dang good after the Beastmen update. They're arguably better in the early game. One-eye is absolute garbage.

[@basab1063]

Malagor as a faction is better than Taurox imo but boy, Taurox on the battlefield with full Mino doomstack is one of the funniest things i can imagine in this game

[@sinh7765]

worth mentioning also that taurox starts really close to sword of khaine and all beastsmen and especially traurox can make amazing use of it

[@EveloGrave]

When you do get to Ogres they are definitely Defensive and aggressive. It is so weird. In the Campaign, super Defensive. In battle Super aggressive. Love the Ogres and look forward to you reviewing it.

[@ruukinen]

They are an absolute chore. No walls. Garbage garrisons. Camps don't get an autoresolve bonus so you have to fight battles you could win blindfolded. I'd literally play any other faction rather than them.

[@neil4816]

been watching you a long time and this video was one of your best! need more faction breakdowns for newer players ive been playing for total war warhammerl for 5 or 6 years and still dont have a full grasp of all the factions and the mechanics they have.

[@Dking3078]

Of course he can handle any situation. He’s an absolute unit

[@magmagamer2012]

Glad to see guides from you.

[@schlues7638]

After completing many Taurox campaigns in both Warhammer 2 and 3, I never knew there was a button to reset the movement range. I do feel kinda stupid

[@caindis-abel-dhisbrother9601]

same, only it's 2024 and I did like 8 beastmen campaigns. not that he needs it lol, raider stance for him is OP as it is.

[@nicolaspinceloup3446]

I’d love to see a Skarsnik campaign review 🤘🏼

[@Archon3960]

I would argue his campaign is easier than what it was. You still have Thorgrim to go through though... :/

[@scarletcroc3821]

The thing with increasing the army capacity to keep in mind is that you need to reach ruination level 8 (the final level) before being able to purchase it. So you can't really spam armies that easily as the beastmen, and that makes their unit capacity increase cost so annoying. I think they should put the higher tier units into groups like they do with lower tier units. Why can I increase the capacity of all 3 centigor types with a single purchase, but for the 3 different minotaur types I have to purchase them all individually? It's also annoying when you constantly get the moon event that reduces dread cost of capacity upgrades for the lower tier units and never for the higher tiers.

[@deafdanny6299]

100% the most powerful army I have had. 5 lords with 10% wep str on minotaur's. Sword of khaine on Taurox with his minotaur buffs as well. 200 wep str on a monstrous infantry and enough mass to walk through just about any unit. Such a good campaign.

[@aputin654]

Did a Khazrak map paint recently. Herdstone upgrades are bugged, giving you a stone at the level of the settlement you replaced with it, rather than the max level you purchased with dread. There is also a hard cap of 30 armies but the game allows you to press the button wasting 1500 dread.

[@AwithaS]

Just finished my first beastmen campaign as Taurox on hard and my only regret is not watching this first and try it on legendary difficulty. Regardless, I had an absolute blast. It's pure fun and adrenaline, with 0 worries such as control, upkeep and defending conquered provinces. Also they are insanely fun in battle and Taurox is an absolute powerhouse. One of the best campaigns in total war warhammer, 10/10.

[@DireWolf-my6mj]

Aye! My favorite faction in the game!! love being free to rampage across the map withouth the anchor of having to mantain all those cities! I love the horde mechanics, hope we get more factions and or LL with the similar nomadic style. (Nakai is my favorite Order LL)

[@senshibat8920]

Hell Moo . Brass ones got it going on like the secret cow level in Diablo

[@adrianchorolez5013]

This video was the reason i bought the dlc and i have enjoyed it a lot so far

[@simoncodrington]

Much prefer these 5+ minute overviews, really helpful

[@garyscarisbrick8621]

Taurox is an absolute chad, they did a 'beast' of a job on him. This makes me want to play a new campaign as him now.

[@keiran5170]

Still haven't got use to Legend not saying "see you next time FUCKERS" at the end of videos

[@lukerevelt7265]

I miss it

[@Glassjesus]

My two main problems with the changes made to beastmen in TWW3 is firstly the new caps on dread that they introduced. The maximum cap is now 175, no matter how big the fight is, and the minimum is 75, no matter how small the fight is. So there is essentially not that much difference between losing a fight against one general or winning a fight against four full stacks. My second problem is that some units now take more than one turn to recruit. Understandable for the actually great units, but giants got chucked in with them too. Since you could replace them over the end of your turn, them dying wasn't much of a reliability. But now you essentially have to waste a whole turn to get your slow missile magnet back.

[@wwezombiegod]

Nice. When I finish my Skaven campaign in Warhammer 2 he'll be the first I do in 3

[@Azati404]

Probably the first one where Legend kind of recommends modding

[@PerennialSash]

Taurox is an example of how ludicrous the power creep for LL's has gotten.

[@vengeance8924]

I love him so much. Hope they don’t change anything

[@FoxForce149]

I set up a heardstone to unlock the techs and then I just left Naggarond and via Sea lane moved over to Cathay. Sadly there is no unique Heardstone in Wei Jin

[@slimthug166]

They have a list of all of the special headstones. My favorite one I set up as Morghur was the center of the Oak of Ages. The amount of battles you can have in one turn is like a campaign in and of itself 😂

[@nicholasnepveu3864]

Not to mention taurox himself is an absolutely maniac - especially if you nab the sword of khaine

[@cygnusx-1256]

my biggest gripe about the beastmen's current mechanics is the price increase rate like you said. it gets stupid expensive really quickly and just incentivizes recruit spamming a couple walking trash bag armies just to fend off an oncoming triple stack of elves early on. It's worth noting that the entire rework for the beastmen is great BUT everything about it is designed specifically for playing as Taurox. Everything about it works to Taurox's playstyle and mechanics and the other LL's pretty much feel like they are only there to be confederated and they play well, once you already have the ball rolling under a solid Taurox campaign rampage.

[@pyromania1018]

Quack-quack! Quack?! What cow goes quack?!

[@TheDrexxus]

I treat Beastmen like I do Tomb Kings and build them single unit armies based around their lord. I confederate all the other beastmen LLs, so I get Mhorgur a chaos spawn stack, Khazra a Bestigor stack, Morghur i'll often load with bray shaman with the nurgle stink and fill the other slots with the harpies until I can eventually finish the stack. Takes forever because you gotta trait fish. And the cool thing about Taurox is there are 3 types of minotaurs all with their own caps and costs associated, so you can just level up all 3 of them evenly to build a minotaur stack for Taurox, then as dread allows you can raise each of them to 18-19 each and give one set to Taurox and the other 2 sets to a couple Doom bulls. That by itself is 6 full armies and thats really all you need since you don't have any territory to defend. You can just steamroll your way around blowing stuff up till you get bored of the destruction. Sadly thats how my Beastmen campaigns tend to end... Once you can just steamroll everyone, there isn't much fun in continuing to murder them all. At least with Warriors of Chaos you can have your little norscan vassals paint the map for you and add little bits to your income and build more armies to help harass your enemies and so on, but Beastmen don't really get on well with anyone except other chaos factions so if you had your own WOC ally or norscan ally, you're basically playing the same way WOC do. It's fun, but gets old pretty quick.

[@thebackup2121]

Would be interesting to see this on stream if another KZbinr is up for being challenged by you! Taurox on Medium Campaign difficulty (for slower army development), Ultimate Crisis set to Turn 10 at Strength 200

[@Hozmeralda]

Non stop battles and drunk cows the campaign

[@Merknilash]

Legend - love these - would like to see some talent guides too Like when to take red vs yellow etc Personally I’ve found yellow tree seems to be weak and red / blue the most important

[@jeanvaljean341]

I enjoyed this video 👍

[@Aerowixx]

If you are playing near any beastmen and they do diplomacy with you (peace treaty, nap, etc). Don't accept straight away, counter the offer and click the "balance offer" button. For some reason beastmen can offer you 17k gold for a peace treaty for example. Good chunk of gold.

[@lachlanbold8319]

Could you do an Alarielle campaign review soon? She my personal favourite but I would like to hear your thoughts.

[@Saatananumber1]

Ill always remember taurox as my first legendary campaing. He has big brass balls.

[@BearPawSwipe]

I thought this was going to be the shortest one!

[@jonasfull]

HOLY CRAP IM LIKE TURN 200 INTO HIS CAMPAIGN I DIDNT EVEN KNOW YOU COULD USE THOSE TOKENS TO RESET HIS MOVEMENT ( I only have Asia left to conquer at this point, im gonna go try that out ) btw you just said the dread prices are too expensive but I haven't had that issue im at around 200k dread right now with nowhere to spend it but keep spamming new armies for me to manage

[@purdueswash]

I guess I know what my next campaign will be. Goodbye to my turn 250 “crowmageddon” Teclis campaign, hello “timestop” Taurox.

[@cygnusx-1256]

Yeah, my only complaint about the Beastmen's system is the increasing cost of unlocking units. It get so stupid expensive so quickly so you're stuck using trash for so long if you want any meaningful amount of units. Otherwise, I love Taurox's campaign play style.

[@gregoryshinn9805]

Thanks for the video

[@magma1lord]

I remember conferderating taurox in wh2 before autoresolve preview. he was alone, with 4 stacks of dark elves including malakith and morathi. I thought lets auto this so he can join me in the old world. well, heroic victory killed them all and he wasn't even max level.

[@Archon3960]

Dark Elves: _"Why do I hear boss musi- _*_OH SHIT!"_*

[@sidian4257]

I love this series.

[@Silent-Samurai]

To be honest. Taurox ist on top pf my Pile of Shame. After this Review he is definetly the next i play.

[@darkfool2000]

You should review Skarsnik's campaign.

[@ithiusdomino]

Literally just finished this campaign last week, I had no idea that the movement tokens existed lol.

[@CrimsonDragon15]

The only campaign I ever played and completed in Legendary (in WH2)

[@beansosa4625]

smashing elf island was easy on hard so I agree with legendary take

[@TheGodlessGamer]

Taurox wants Wheaties!

[@BoldElf5]

I don't mind that it's cheaper to get new armies in comparison to unit caps as it feels like it suits thier Aesthetics more. As they are a horde army not elite so you wouldn't get as many High tier armies compared to loads of chaff supporting some elites

[@andreasmuller4666]

So i wonder, what would be the best capaign to go the totally oposite way and turtle up as hard as possible and be nigh unbreakable on the defense instead of being a raging menace that has no home. Because that style interests me a lot more.

[@saschaganser9671]

Woodelfes or any warrior of chaos. Trees and dark fortresses are almost undefeatable by the AI.

[@Eclipsed_Embers]

Eltharion or Gor Rok in my opinion Gor Rok is all about being on the defensive, pretty much all of his buffs and bonuses focus on defensive sieges (and considering how many enemies you start off surrounded by there's a decent chance that you'll actually get some use out of that) and buffing the defensive stats of your units (even giving your Saurus units a barrier through a rite) Eltharion's campaign generally focuses on defending 2 specific provinces, once you do that well enough all of your military allies on Ulthuan's outer regions will benefit from some of your buffs (not sure if this works if you've just captured those regions yourself), only reason to really go out and attack things is to get more resources to help turtle up those 2 specific provinces even more

[@nebojsarodic1720]

Maybe it's because I am playing as Cathay now, but... Cathay?

[@sigisecht]

Concerning the spreadsheet creative assembly posted on regarding immortal empires/product ownership and how dread works for the Beastman; can you get the legendary lords through dread if you only had Taurox's dlc?

[@A.L.E.X.42]

Love max aggression lords/campaigns I’m too ADHD to sit around. What is the best lord for this style that starts in/around the Old World?

[@nyrva2876]

I don't even think getting rid of the dread cost increase for units entirely would be enough to be able to get all your armies tier 3 units when any other faction in the game could, at the same point in time. My opponents usually have better units and the beastmen's useful units are tier 4 or tier 5, which you can have like 2 maybe 3 of them total when you unlock them. The other races can have as many as their economy can support, that's my biggest problem. By turn 100 with ultimate crisis, chances are you can't fight these armies with beastmen. You don't have ratling guns or alith anar's archers or any other cheese units/lords/spellcasters other races have than can win battles with 0 casualties.

[@SaintSpenstar]

Where is Krell?!?! And Kemmler 😈💀 We have more mausoleums to defile!

[@LeKain08]

Beastmen is clearly my favorite faction of all (followed by Slaanesh). I was so happy when they finally got reworked for the best and added Taurox, my favorite big boy lol. ONE THING I DON'T UNDERSTAND THOUGH ... ... is WHY the AI seems to absolutely SUCKS at playing Beastmen? (Taurox and Malaghor included) Seriously... I never encountered Beastmen factions in my long campaign in a better position than seemingly "running for their life" to survive, and get wiped by being unlucky enough to just travelling too close from my settlements after pathetically trying to get one from a surprise war out of nowhere that fail miserably. Beastmen are so OP and AI seems like a defenseless baby running around with no clue when playing them. Why ?...

[@lewis24685]

Ah, I didn't realise the difficulty recommended was for campaign not battle, is that the same for all previous vids?

[@dealvidit]

Yes. For battle, he always recommends whatever you're comfortable with.

[@rickylahey657]

If you spend dread on growing your faction and herdstones in the beginning and manually fight with the super strong lords like taurox and malagor I can explode in turn 40 through 60 and the game becomes easy even on legendary

[@CH-ml4rz]

Celebration stream plans made?

[@alemorikec]

Playing as the beastmen is good practice to becoming a more aggressive player. Ive noticed a big difference in how effective I am as dwarves after playing beastmen. As odd as that may sound.

[@Archon3960]

Really? Dwarves are a slow faction that tends to play defensive. How did you manage that?

[@alemorikec]

@@Archon3960 I know. l don't know what to say- maybes Im just getting better that casualties were less after my last run as Beastmen.

[@LandTorpedo69]

I started playing on normal campaign, hard battle and it's a little too easy honestly. I've just been absolutely steam rolling everyone I come into contact with.

[@cedson108]

Taurox is actually my favorite campaign in wh3

[@StarzAlpha]

Khalida has to be next

[@monoono4051]

Please do Sisters of Twilight next.

[@PumpkinGoblin]

I play khazrak and I swear you can only get the get army limit button when you reach ruination 7.

[@RandomPerson-zy5pr]

Waiting for Azhag

[@Zolgronin]

How about Mazdamundi next?

[@warpstoneenjoyer8293]

Is the confederate mechanic available to all beastmen factions, or just taurox?

[@АлексейКрылов-т7г]

Is it a single fun dark elf campaign in a game?

[@CapitanBarbaschiuma]

Tried gunning straight for sword of khaine but it didn't spawn at all. Can beastmen get it in tww3?

[@PandorasSalvation]

Thorek Ironbrow or Throt the Unclean next pls

[@ssayan1714]

is it worth playing this Taurox without Beastmen DLC?

[@valentijnbarendse9044]

I like beatsmen, at turn 50 i was like oke so what are my campaign victory's haha. just fight smash and go all factions chasing me and I just go forward and keep smashing. Kinda annoying that every faction is focusing me now and ignoring and trespassing each other without fighting but hey its fun

[@R3GARnator]

All the sudden I am hungry for steak.

[@the_bubi]

The buildings that should give you +% dread are broken, as not working properly. There is a community fix for that.

[@BrochachosTV123]

i did a 30 bestigore doomstack maxed out stats, boi when i asked for fun.

[@Drachenfurie]

Its much better to have 6 minute campaign reviews. 2 Minutes is not enough.

[@jakeeright]

When is the next livestream?

[@logan666999]

Is Taurox still good enough for a one man doomstack n WH3 ? It was great in WH2 :)

[@Xamul123]

With the sword of Khaine, defenitely. I did it in a recent campaign. He also gets a special trait that gives him 10% ward save after winning a few Battles on his own. Getting him to the reistance cap ist not that hard and He is an amazing fighter.

[@dracothegreat1]

All this time with the game and i still reinstall to come back and play Taurox. Lol

[@whatashock6459]

Yeah i agree

[@Duossj4Fusion]

Markus Wulfhart next please

[@dmitriyk.2890]

Yeah, Marcus may be good. Especially considering how Empire is now and how they changed his campaign in III.

[@Autumnight967]

Does anyone know why he doenst move in the campaign ?

[@Archon3960]

Max level Skarbrand vs Max level Thaurox. Who would win? 😎 Either way, everything dies.

[@MrHellboy112]

wait a minute..., you can reset his movement???

[@icaindianen]

I do agree that they could use cheaper unit cap upgrades. BUT, I also think that Ungor raiders shouldnt be unlimited, it should be the Ungor Herd that's unlimited. So you get to choose between shitty spear unit and sliiiiiightly less shitty melee unit.

[@nyrva2876]

I don't like that only Taurox has access to this mechanic and not other LL in his campaign. I understand it would be busted as it is but with some tweaks it could be possible. It feels weird when all your other lords have moved and only Taurox gets to keep going.

[@TisTheWay]

Boris Urson plz!

[@waterramp1]

Settra? Is that you?

[@samuelkoziot2455]

Skrag next please :(