Taylor Swift and Matty Healy: A Retrospective

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[@roramdin]

Subscribe for weekly videos or I'm gonna do something unpredictable and disconcerting! Sorry that this video was late, I took Monday and Tuesday last week off so this video ended up taking me from last Wednesday to earlier today. I hope you enjoy, and if you do please consider supporting my Patreon! I'm mind warpingly broke.

[@rampion1228]

Thank you for the video! I was wondering what the background music during the nature of celebrity monologue towards the end?

[@archangelang4772]

@@rampion1228I think she posts the free to use music on her Patreon. These ones have yet to be posted. (she makes the tracks)

[@OtterMunchy]

Pardon me, Ms. Rose...I just finished rewatching the MGK/Megan Fox vid, and now wonder if you’ve watched/reviewed the MGK/Megan Fox movie yet...I’ve seen one review of it, and it’s seems to be as nonsensical and insufferable as advertised...I am VERY interested if you will be able to pull comedy out of that dud. It’s a stoner movie released in a world where weed is legal in most places, and it seems like no one involved with the movie actually knows how weed affects people...the whole movie evolved from a typo and several blunts. I really like watching reviews of some movies rather than watching the actual movie...it was a pleasant day when I discovered reaction/commentary youtubers,

[@roramdin]

@@rampion1228make it all myself! Uploading the tracks free to use on patreon today

[@lh9761]

😃🥰😎

[@auroriangore]

I could stop Taylor Swift

[@roramdin]

forgot to mention your campaign in the video

[@phabothadon7855]

And I hope you do 🫡

[@aphroditemercury937]

Is this a bit?? Do you have an actual campaign?? I am so intrigued...

[@WearWolfeAssassin]

And yet, you choose not to.

[@babushkka]

I will support your campaign

[@Parvatisplace]

As a black person I don’t understand how what he did could be considered internal bias. As Ro said “that’s just racist”

[@joypomeroy1452]

Maybe she was talking about the porn actresses?

[@zorro......]

or meant subconscious bias. but we cant know for sure

[@guytrashgurtdog]

I think ro may have been talking about the porn stars? Idk

[@roramdin]

Hey! My point was that even if he was ostensibly "joking" or "not serious" that the things he said indicated at the very minimum an internal bias. Sorry I didn't convey this better, I was attempting to say that I was "forced" to believe he held those biases at the very least.

[@Parvatisplace]

@@roramdin That was clear and I actually agree with you that at the bare minimum it was internalized bias. I just personally think all things considered he’s beyond that. I wasn’t trying to critique you, just talking my shit!

[@chevyisawhip]

The crazy thing is how much I violently don’t care about either of these people, yet love this video.

[@lfrands]

Right??!! Such outstanding content, it doesn’t matter the topic, it’s always mind expanding

[@SpecialInterestShow]

Exactly! I didn't give a single shit but the second Ro posted a video I was like "omg what happened!? Tell me everything!"

[@Broeckchen]

That's the Ro Effect. She makes everything interesting!

[@Lucifersfursona]

Yeah you get it I care about Ro and her beautiful light speed jokes

[@emilyrln]

Yup!!

[@ellaamariee]

This reminds me of the girls in high school preaching all kinds of leftist ideas on social media while simultaneously having a racist boyfriend with multiple sexual assault allegations. Now they're all grown up

[@baptizednblood6813]

That’s Americans for you

[@spacebar9733]

​@@baptizednblood6813 love how you think all americans are straight white ppl while attempting to condemn straight white ppl. Shut up cause you're just as bad.

[@MrFruitPrimate]

You losers need to touch grass, and Healy is literally English. Swift sucks Healy is talented and funny.

[@mirandaskylar9094]

I'm mean as a TS fan and a leftist, Taylor has never presented herself as a leftist. She has always shown herself to be a lib white woman and this is on brand behavior for lib white woman

[@16960734]

The irony of this statement is matty actually has associations and ties to leftist communities while Taylor does not. Its just that those leftist communities are ok with edgy jokes.

[@marina0772]

Totally forgot about Americans for a sec so when you said it was 70° I got really worried about global warming

[@askii2004]

I'm so sorry you unforgot about Americans, must've been nice to not remember those existed lol

[@tbbumpy]

70 degrees in october is still plenty of reason to be really concerned about global warming

[@tbbumpy]

i realize i also forgot about Americans for a sec and it may be warmer for some of them, we’s americans

[@bri6032]

it used to snow in october where i live in the US & it’s been 50°F or more everyday recently. it is definitely a valid concern

[@river_brook]

yeah 70 degrees Celsius would be a bit of a point of concern

[@Kyamusuku]

I feel like a Ro Ramdin and D’Angelo Wallace Collab would be too powerful

[@lfrands]

Face melting power 😱

[@ErieRosewood]

the roasts theyd have

[@cragnog]

Adding a dash of CJ the X would make a chemical explosion from the concoction of these intellectually fruitful fruits.

[@erukei_]

​@@cragnogfirst time watcher here! she immediately reminded me of CJ the X.

[@sussycecil]

Ro, CJ, D’Angelo and Mia Cole would be a force too powerful to stop.

[@IStillHaveDialUp]

I think the critiques of her progressivism are valid because no one complains that’s she’s got a quarter billion in real estate. She doesn’t make anti-landlord music, so no one calls her on it, which is fine. But she makes fake ally music/comments so people call her out.

[@nat9527]

Yeah I'm pretty sure she has the most celebrity private jet emissions as well. She's actively killing the environment on top of everything 💀

[@ho-sette]

as a lifelong fan it was really hard to come to terms with the fact that she wrote "epiphany" (which is ab hope in the middle of a pandemic) and then went to tour all over the world in these superspreader events. considering the situation with her mom's health I figured she'd be _the_ celebrity to show solidarity for medically vulnerable people. but turns out she just has rich people methods of keeping _her_ and _her_ family safe but implementing pandemic safety for her fans at her events is just "too political" now. as a queer person I trust her allyship because of the actual political activism she's done, but I don't trust her allyship anywhere else really.

[@caseymarie292]

@ho-sette i nearly cried when i read ur comment casually with my mindset as a disabled person living in ‘covid doesn’t exist’ hell. I always feel alone. The worst part is there is no way to have these events safely- in crowds as big as even half the current size they couldn’t ensure proper masking, ventilation, spacing. It’s impossible without extensive money spent and that will never happen. Even outdoor events are superspreader events because people are squished together unmasked, there is no testing culture anymore and infection tracing is non existant. I saw so many people posting about that fucking tour, living life like it’s an alternate dimension, and I hated them and her more than ever. And i’ve never felt too strongly about her, besides her being a billionaire.

[@ho-sette]

@@caseymarie292 YEP YEP YEP. I've been teetering back in forth in sheer insanity since the m*ndates ended early 2022 and the c d c changed that stupid freaking map (having to censor random sht bc this comment literally wasn't visible! fun!). having screaming matches with my parents, getting ignored by everyone I know on social media bc I was the girl who just wouldn't stfu about c*vid. I've lived in so many places all over the world accumulating many friends from many different walks of life, mostly progressive liberal/left-leaning. not a single one has reached out, not a single one liking my posts, it even got to the point where I would frequently change my pfp to the old transmission maps that reflected current reality and slowly one by one the likes eventually got to 0. the ONLY public outing I've been to since that time (including even going to the store, I eventually just ended up making only my bf do that) was the eras tour in my area and it was awful. I kept my flo mask on the entire time and was dehydrated and overwhelmed. the bf and I did neti pots and CPC mouthwash for a week after fully knowing the risk we put ourselves in. I literally have not been in public since, and recently the last friend I had on this earth scolded me for not going to her wedding even though I had told her that concert friggn knocked me out (I'm autistic and have POTS) for months and I just couldn't risk going on a plane, go to her mask less wedding, go on a plane AGAIN, and now another lifelong friendship gone. I feel so alone. solidarity homie. to anyone else reading this, put on an N95 or better in public. the p*ndemic is not over and you have been tricked. I wish more breadtubers would talk ab this too. or any popular leftist who claims to care about disability issues. it's not too late to change your habits. this article "Let Them Eat Plague" by Comrade Dremel from Unity-Struggle-Unity is the best I've found so far and basically explains everything.

[@Sile-na-gcioch]

This sub-comment section is such a breath of fresh air :') It's horrible the situation disabled (and just considerate) people have been but though, trying to navigate maintaining social connections, work, and mental stability amongst a society that just pretends that if we stop testing and using PPE the problem will just go away. It's just shown me that even if a lot of people say they care, their care doesn't extend far enough to actually take action.

[@natncat]

I sold my eras tickets after the matty healy aftermath exposed just how vague taylor's politics are. The person who bought my tickets is a pray the gay away counselor who works with children. The situation really cemented what taylor swift represents to her fans and ive never been able to look past the disgust since. I saw a tiktok video at the time that said something along the lines of "homophobes and transphobes can be comfortable at her concerts" even though she is this supposed LGBTQIA+ ally who gets praise for it all the time. I have no doubt taylor is pro-woman, but i cant be so sure she would be if the woman in question was trans or had melanated skin

[@anpatman]

She is pro-white/cishet/rich woman in the global north. So herself and her besties 😂

[@Jane-oz7pp]

Is she pro-woman, or is she pro-woman where woman means her?

[@goldstarsforall]

Taylor Swift has always left a bad taste in my mouth... I cant say why but after 'You need to calm down' there was a bunch of stuff about how she never let Queer people actually speak. It made me realise she was like the girls in my school that where all for queerness when that queer was a spectacle when it was the boys in drama sharing lipstick. But when I came out suddenly they didn't want to talk to me. She reminds me of the girls that would 'come out' for the clout, to go to Pride and where glitter and get drunk but not learn the actual history,,, quoting 'the first pride was a riot' and 'be gay do crime' whilst not actually doing anything about why those phrases are important. Now,,, I have since learnt that everyone's experience with the queer experience is different and how I interact with the community can be wildly different to other people, those girls were lovely people and we were teenagers experimenting.... It seems to me that Taylor Swift only looks at the surface level of everything and doesn't dive deep into any of it to learn why its important. And by not even admitting that it causes a large issue in her fanbase. Its the political cartoon where the centrist asks the leftist if a little murder is okay to appease the right . She would never say that publically... but privately who knows.

[@February_Flowers]

I didn’t have tickets to the eras tour but after she dated matty healy I stopped listening to her music. I was a newer fan (only started listening around Lover) and I didn’t know too much about her personal life or much about celebrities and pop in general but from what I learned, it was enough to make me uncomfortable supporting her.

[@spOOkytimes]

This may be a hot take, but her feminism sometimes feels disingenuous. Some people seem to use feminism to not take accountability for some of their actions and to get the spotlight off themselves. Taylor is a victim of sexism no doubt but her feminism feels very vapid and just another way to market herself. She's never on the cutting edge of issues and waits until it becomes popular/accepted enough to talk about. She never takes political risks like other artists do. She follows what is popular at the time. Now that anti gay and trans rhetoric is making a comeback, she is staying quiet on the issue and I'm not surprised. Your story very much lines up with this pattern.

[@spikeybootz]

taylor swift being the jimmy carter to lana del rey's reagan is insane but so real

[@falconeshield]

Wait who's Nixon then?

[@lauramessy]

omg

[@cremetangerine82]

Is Billie Eilish Obama?

[@grandmawitch]

@@cremetangerine82 Beyoncé is Obama

[@thethrowawaythatstayed7055]

Who’s Bernie.

[@waitwaitwaitno3182]

i’m so happy this is being talked about because literally most people were like “oh she broke up with him everything’s ok let’s move on now” without actually like,, talking about it after

[@wumadlo]

got jupmscared by the betterhelp mention but then sighed in relief

[@guytrashgurtdog]

fr I was so relieved I thought that was going elsewhere and was about to turn into an ad read 💀

[@Corarii]

i wish people could be more critical of taylor swift without bringing misogyny into it, i feel like we should hate her for actual reasons

[@glasstablegcrls]

was a huge swiftie since rep era, but i currently stopped liking her due to: • using a qwoc as a weapon to prove that she isn’t complicit with matty. • mostly blames criticisms on her on misogyny • bad blood lore. iyk the story behind BB, she legit made something out of nothing • yt feminism / fake feminism and before anyone says “u have a lana pfp u cant be talm” ME!, a qwoc here’s my take: the difference between lana and taylor’s problematic actions is that lana fr is just not very bright when it comes to social problems (that’s why i prefer celebs to not speak on something they’re not that much informed about, they’re entertainers, not activists) but taylor’s actions are very calculated which makes it worse to me. lana is j tone deaf af but i don’t think she does anything out of malice, now taylor… idk wtf her motive is atp. lana is fr tryna do good she’s just rlly bad at it. taylor is purposely not trying.

[@lhvy5066]

​@@glasstablegcrlsTaylor wants all the cookie points without alienating her still going conservative fanbase

[@glasstablegcrls]

@@lhvy5066from my experience it’s impossible to find a swiftie that isn’t racist

[@joshua-we9xr]

She does the Dolly thing. Never get ACTUALLY involved, say things like "I love everybody", then do a bunch of charity work. Never do or say anything to openly challenge anyone else's opinion. Edit: Then jump on whatever wagon makes you the most money.

[@dinosaur___7209]

@@glasstablegcrlsthat’s a crazy statement lmao.

[@bubbles4897]

It’s not exploitative sex work when none of those women are sex workers! I need to stress this. That company is THAT dangerous

[@TheKennyJ2000]

It's definitely non-consensual activities. Surprised it wasn't stated that it could be very well sex trafficking.

[@joshknowsnothing]

I love the fact that you brought to light the point that we dont know celebrities as people but as brands. I think thats a point everybody knows but kinda forgets about as we get more and more chronically online.

[@Eosinophyllis]

this is like somewhat off topic but I think at a certain point celebrities become brands is the one true answer to online queerbaiting discourse

[@TheOffensiveSenses]

I think there’s a lot to be said for the idea that Taylor has needed to maintain a perfect public image since she was fairly young, and so being attracted to “bad boys” could be seen as a way of mild rebellion and exerting some control over her personal life

[@FunWithColeen]

literally stopped mid assignment to watch another masterpiece of a video from Ro, thank you for justifying my procrastination

[@whatthehelliot]

good luck with ur assignment!!

[@ihavenothingbettertodowith2358]

Same. 💀

[@KelLauren]

i’ve been a 1975 fan since their inception in 2013, and they’re also how i met my partner of almost a decade now. i’ve also been a swiftie since 2008. miraculously, i am now an anarchist. these three circles have very little overlap, and it’s forced me to recon with my beliefs many times. matty’s decent into this arc has been simmering for years, and it wasn’t surprising to see what happened. it’s sad seeing someone who openly struggled with addiction and almost die multiple times get clean, then turn into who he is now. with taylor, it’s painful to watch her cringe liberalism. i’ve come to the idea of “but what do i expect from these people, you can’t get to this level of fame without many moral concessions”. they harness enormous power, but they didn’t get there without taking that power from others who helped them. there are exceptions to this, plenty of celebs/athletes/musicians with a strong compass, and routinely have shown they want the best of things. but most are just entertainers, they’re not people to look to for grandstanding. tldr, very very well put video (not surprising) sincerely a former 1975 groupie, lifelong swiftie, and current anarchist

[@roramdin]

Ilysm Kel ❤️❤️❤️

[@lyramarie1124]

I’ve always wondered how long time fans feel about all of their history (I’m a fan of neither and just watching Ro lol). It’s obviously easier to ease out of a fandom if you’ve been in it longer. Thank you for your perspective🫶🏻

[@ehsteve231]

As a white guy who takes Concerta, I believe the only responsible way forward is to use the money for next month's prescription to support your Patreon in order to avoid any potential podcast faux pas. Love your content; you've got such a unique pace, and it's so engaging. Btw Concerta is like fucking $400 and the generic has been out of stock since the pandemic hit my god

[@rahab2850]

Production of the generic just got reauthorized, so hopefully it'll be available soon.

[@ehsteve231]

​@@rahab2850Thank god, I've been using this timed-release alternative, and it just does not do the job as effectively. Thanks for the info!

[@user-jg8jc1gy2q]

I live in Belgium and my partner gets it. I should become an international drug dealer omg

[@cecrop1a]

yeah what’s with concerta prices rn, i’m in canada where i’m pretty sure we don’t have a shortage but the prices are still absolutely unhinged atm

[@HeySlothKid]

Oh my god, I just looked up the price here (south Africa) and it comes to about $36 dollars a box. What is up with your health care system / pricing!?

[@crystaljeffbabeeey]

Matty Healy used to date FKA Twigs, a black mixed-race woman, so him watching Ghetto Gaggers is particularly insane and disturbing to me.

[@alisonbender8575]

He also dated Halsey who is white passing but mixed

[@pussydestroyer69285]

​@@alisonbender8575 Halsey is pretty much white tho. Her dad isn't a full black man either. He's mixed. So Halsey is like 80 percent white atleast

[@KhayJayArt]

There's a lot of white supremacists who have sexual fetishes for women who are from ethnic groups they hate.

[@mystic7934]

It was a satire podcast for one, so taking anything they said verbatim is a mistake and can’t be taken seriously. However due to all the hate and backlash taking it out of context and blowing it out of proportion, the hosts themselves made a video clarifying that they specifically made that part up and chose it as a joke because the name was catchy. This is all google-able and out there for anyone who actually cares rather than mindlessly adding to the flames.

[@ferretappreciator]

​@@mystic7934I thought satire was supposed to be actually funny. How odd

[@drouseyman]

i'm barely a minute in but holy shit ro that intro was insane you've outdone yourself

[@hautejester]

!!!!!!!!!

[@tate201]

literally cannot exaggerate my respect for you and this channel !! love your content you are an amazing creator

[@smellslikegoodfam2655]

I second this!! Love Rose

[@benoftheweek]

why i do enjoy lukewarm quinoa actually

[@alisonbender8575]

Right? A nice quinoa salad that you just made so it’s still a little warm with cucumbers and tomatoes and a vinaigrette I’m so hungry now

[@Cat-tastrophee]

I wonder if Matty Healy appealed to Taylor because he is unabashedly unfiltered. Everything she says and does is carefully scrutinized and calculated, so maybe his uncouth statements were a refreshing change for her. I'm not saying that's a good thing. He's trash and it's all an act, just as much as hers is. If she craves freedom, she needs to knock down a few of her own walls and let go of her own perfectionism to live a little.

[@lhvy5066]

also it's probably a power trip for her, she knows she was gonna make her fans go insane online and she loves to see i

[@tarathoughts13]

To me, it seems like she was forced to grow up in an industry from a very young age, and so she always craved attention or the feeling of being wanted (which is why she loves love so much) and also she had just gotten out of a 6 year relationship where the guy wanted to keep things very quiet and private and she wanted to be more (the star of stars) and since she was so like seculided in one relationship, she wanted to create scandal or attention or something when she was out of it, she wanted to feel that ‘high’ of the relationship, it is a very immature feeling, but it seems that she craves control. And she wants to ‘fix’ people so maybe that’s why she chose matty (plus they had many industry relations). It is a very immature feeling, but I don’t necessarily think she’s a bad person for it, I just think she has some personal issues she needs to resolve when it comes to her needs and attention-craving. It comes from growing up precocious, you feel like you had to mature so quickly that you act immature later on in life to make up for that (and I think this is related to some of the experiences she sings about in her earlier albums and she experienced in her early 20s and late teens)

[@mentallyunstable1926]

i was going to write something as a fan of her music about the reactions from the fandom when the matty healy news came out but then the roast about how i met your mother being a big part of her life hit me like a truck because she's literally mentioned multiple times how she loves friends the sitcom so i 100% believe that she also watched himym

[@kittenlover3195]

Ro it is midterm season i needed this upload so bad thank you

[@roramdin]

stop studying and start going youtube mode

[@nobody-tv2zg]

i spent much of high school on dirty hit (record label heavily associated w matty) stan twitter (i’m not ok.) i’ve been well aware of matty’s persona for like seven years now and it’s always confused me. he tries to be edgy but whenever the backlash is too much, he’ll just delete his social media. no backbone on the man at all despite how edgy he tries to seem. perhaps his most annoying offense was when he wrote an entire paragraph explaining why he doesn’t need to credit a photographer. but up until the podcast episode, many of his “problematic” actions could be attributed to ignorance from being a nepo baby that’s older than most of his audience and therefore not as socially aware/“politically correct” as they are. or just not thinking ahead when he does stuff, like both of the gay kiss controversies. either way, the constant controversies got so exhausting that i gave up on following him around four years ago, and i think many fans feel the same way

[@chrisz7494]

I love your disclaimer that you're not ok. It's ok. We've all done stupid shit in our past. I hope you feel better soon.

[@nobody-tv2zg]

@@chrisz7494 lol thank you youtube commenter! i may not be okay but i’m a lot okayer. hope you’re doing well too!

[@knightogourd]

@ville__ Something is wrong with you

[@letsalllovelein]

I mean, he did say, and I quote; "I personify the adolescent on a phone, speaking like I'm bigger than my body."🤷🏽‍♀️

[@nobody-tv2zg]

@@letsalllovelein LMAO i love that song but i didn’t think about that, very self aware of him

[@skylaristhelimit2210]

Ro, please don't be so hard on yourself! You have the highest quality content here on YT, perfect editing, perfect writing, perfect music and even your voice sounds perfect! Thank you for another great video!

[@InaneBlatherPodcast]

Ugh seriously the quality is NO JOKE

[@jewels3400]

​@@InaneBlatherPodcast I'm not surprised she feels that way about her art and work. That cycle of feelings is all too familiar for me. To the point where I can't even be like, "No Ro! You're incorrect this is amazing!" While the work IS in nearly every category immaculate, that's not really how the mindset works. It's a filter sewed into the artist's brain. Unless you could go in DOOM style and rip it out then not much can be done through an outsiders intention. They can't change what's not in their domain, and even when it is your domain, you can't will that thinking process out intentionally. That said, HOLY FUCK THE WORK IS SO GOOD. Not even in the, "by industry standards," way, but in the innovative way. The 20 minute intros (exaggeration) are like nothing I've ever seen or will see again. Feeling this eruption of creative spoken lyricism is riveting. The roast sessions are also just funny. Then the humility that Ro has in clearly acknowledging their place in the world as a creator and person over and over again is actively anti-parasocial. It makes me, the audience member, smarter. It makes me wiser to be able to identify something that other creators either don't realize exists or actively bank on. Logically Ro just does great work.

[@InaneBlatherPodcast]

@@jewels3400 one million percent you nailed it

[@InfinitelyAnon]

As soon as Matty Healy came up I literally shook with anticipation that Ro would comment on him

[@ecocodex4431]

THANK YOU for the flashing lights warning! I suffer from a form of photosensitivity that causes me physical pain when lights suddenly start flashing, so thank you for letting me know ^_^

[@n.j.5044]

My issue with the Healy-Swift relationship as a Swiftie (aside from it just being f*cking gross what Healy said), was how Taylor then did a collab with Ice Spice but didn't speak out publicly against Healy. In fact, her working with Ice Spice - I believe - was meant to reflect positively on Healy. Keep in mind, Taylor hasn't done many collabs until her re-releases. But this song was on a brand new album. And she was already promoting - or about to promote - her next project so it made no sense to release a music video for her last one. And not only does she do very little collabs, she has only collabed with two other black artists on her own music that were already super famous in their own right. With all that being said, her working with Ice Spice really felt - to me - like they were using Ice Spice to save Taylor's (and I'd bet Healy's) public reputations. While it is beneficial to Ice Spice to work with Taylor, it didn't make any sense to me from a purely brand perspective. Their music is so unrelated. I really couldn't get past the feeling that this young black woman who is new to the industry was being used, and she didn't really have the choice to say no, even if she may have been uncomfortable with it. I just, it seems innocuous, but it feels "icky." That's the best I can describe it, and with many of her other controversies, I just couldn't do it anymore. I'd been a hardcore Swiftie since 2007/08, but this was too much for me

[@Mariii_30111]

first off it was never confirmed they were dating the evidence was very lackluster. After all the stuff came out about matty healy it was quickly over if it was something in the first place. They dated supposedly for like two weeks. I understand exactly what you mean with the ice spice stuff and i can see why youu feel that way. Iwould like to let you know that ice spice asked for the collab she has been a fan for a very long time and so she asked her team and they made one. Also the timing does not line up it actually takes time to make a new song and for a song to be made and released with other songs and a music video in it a like months notice is not possible. I mean taylor and ice spice are friends and they clearly have a great time together and ice spice talks about how she can always talk to her and stuff that’s not something a person who was using you to look good would just do privately. Also for someone e her size she is one of the most in problematic celebs like she has had some stuff but they are always small and typically dumb.

[@n.j.5044]

@@Mariii_30111 I'll speak to the part of this I have experience with: I'm a musician who's been in-studio. If you have the resources and everyone knows what they're doing, it is possible to get a song out in a day. Especially since Ice Spice was brought onto an already existing song and Taylor is worth millions, they could have gotten the new version of "Karma" out in a week, tops. The music video I'll give you, though. With the amount of special effects, it would have probably taken at least a month, if not longer depending on how many editors her team hired. But all that being said, even if she didn't date him (for long), Taylor was still publicly associated with this man who stated he touched himself to videos of black women being brutalized, and yet she did not speak against him. Even if she's not condoning his behavior outright, her silence still speaks volumes. At least to me as someone who is black but light-skinned and white-passing, so I do know the effect that privilege gives... Maybe not the extent that Taylor enjoys privilege, but I do still know from experience. However, I also know that if I were in the same position and I said nothing, that would be extremely harmful to my family who are not white passing like me. I guess my point is: in my opinion, Taylor has too much privilege to stay silent and have that mean nothing. Her silence speaks volumes. I agree it's not "fair" to put that on any one individual, but unfortunately, it is still true.

[@pinkmenace2452]

i agree with a lot with what your saying but let’s not infantilize ice spice by saying she couldn’t have said no to taylor if she wanted to because like… she definitely could have. she has shown herself to be a smart and business savvy woman and acting like she was under taylor’s thumb for this collab is silly and condescending.

[@n.j.5044]

@@pinkmenace2452 I'm not trying to deny that Ice Spice is business savvy. But it's important to think about who's asking you for something. Coercion is a bitch. Ice Spice is new to the industry - compared to Taylor - and Taylor is one of the biggest artists of this generation. So let's say hypothetically - not that this was the case, but just imagine - she had wanted to say "no" to Taylor. I'm personally certain Ice Spice's team would have been vehemently against that. Let alone if Taylor wanted her, she could have done whatever she wanted to get her. Not saying she wanted to, but had Ice Spice wanted to say no, it would've become a huge issue for her. And that situation does not sit right with me. That's where the "icky feeling" comes from, and that's what I don't like. You don't have to agree, but Ice Spice was put between a rock and a hard place had she wanted to say "no." And a scenario like that does not sit right with me. You should be able to say no without consequences like that.

[@SlushieDee]

Nothing quite like a fresh Ro Ramdin video to sate my hunger for expertly crafted fever dreams that cycle between making me cackle like a hyena, offering profound insight, and leaving me reeling from horrific new revelations!

[@jewels3400]

Expert summary

[@m_a_k_e_n_n_a]

Maybe I’m just stoned but the editing on the intro sequence is fucking doing it for me. These videos are always so good and I’m only 25 seconds in

[@swampgod]

same i replayed it like 6 times just now good shit

[@caseyaonso4270]

i love cold leftovers

[@MattTheBat]

the way this is filmed and edited is so amazing. it just looks so good.

[@SpecialInterestShow]

Me hearing vaguely about the relationship: "I literally couldn't give less of a shit." Me as soon as Ro drops a video on it: "omg what happened tell me EVERYTHING" you're one of my absolute favorite youtubers and your humor is top notch. You never fail to make me laugh every video!

[@charlottehollingsworth9125]

"I know HIMYM was a big part of her life" close, she actually was a guest on New Girl lmao so close. She's also very close with Hayley Williams, your pulls are impeccable. I am a huge fan of Taylor's music, and have had to work through a lot of untangling parasocial attachment and drawing boundaries around how I interact with her art through this summer and I really appreciate the way you broke this down.

[@dr.k1012]

Same. Though I often feel guilty listening to her work these days.. it's so complicated, I fear sooner or later I'm gonna get exhausted & stop listening to her altogether

[@pinkmenace2452]

@dr.k1012 okay but then like what major stars DONT you feel guilty about listening to? genuine question bc i’ve found pretty much all celebrities are associated with some pretty nasty people and almost all of their “activism” is shallow and only performative. not saying criticisms of taylor swift aren’t valid but i think they can be applied to most celebrities

[@charlottehollingsworth9125]

@@pinkmenace2452 I mean you're completely right, it's just that this video is about Taylor Swift and I happen to be a big fan of her music, so that's the focus of the comment. At the end of the day every person on earth has and will do shitty stuff and be a hypocrite so it's really about like what your personal lines are for what is worth engaging with.

[@CassieHasYoutube]

this is like attending a college class on celebrity drama. A+

[@Sthomp10]

That Ghetto site is so screwed up, some of the models on that site took their own lives after filming.

[@gj5748]

That's so fucked up omg

[@meghansullivan6812]

WHAT😪

[@Sthomp10]

@@gj5748 yea i looked up the story about kitty Catherine it’s so heart breaking.

[@lovelylanafansweetie4240]

@@Sthomp10 What happened to kitty Catherine ? I’ve tried to look up these stories to see if there’s go fund mes but there’s nothing to bring justice.

[@Sthomp10]

@@lovelylanafansweetie4240 I know it really sucks, but there are petitions out there to take this site down. Kitty had took her own life in 2019 two years after her appearance on the site.

[@larsland]

You are the wittiest and most interesting creator in this space and I’m so excited for your future.

[@jrosewater]

thought this said "widdlest" and was confused, but respected the boldness

[@GatorGirl1]

This was so interesting to watch after the release of her new album where clearly she was in love with MH and he was the one that left the relationship because he couldn’t handle her or the opinions of her fans. Very well done. Subscribed

[@Blake1720]

Yup! Here after TTPD

[@tressmith8842]

This one is a banger! Your comedic timing is incredible, the editing is seamless, and the overall production quality has exponentially been increasing. Lots of love and respect thank you for the work that you do 🫶

[@OstroGothic]

Hey Ro, just wanted to say that your videos consistently get out-loud laughs from me. Not just some bullshit giggle, or blowing air from my nose or whatever

[@Allison_Hart]

wait why did i like Ro calling me a little gay boy :/ ETA: after watching this video this comment no longer seems appropriate without also addressing the horrific situation discussed. it's insane how we can't have some sort of basic labor protections and pro bono and mandatory legal consultation provided to sex workers / adult actors. we always hide behind the excuse for what we watch, "oh well they consented." "the performer signed a contract" or whatever. when actually the water is a LOT muddier on knowing how and under what circumstances such "consent" was obtained. i agree with Ro that the best way to ensure ethical participation is to directly pay a person who seems to be the owner and creator of their own adult content. but it's so fucking disgusting to think that a good amount of content available on the "main sites" let alone niche disgusting exploitation sites that should probably be illegal or at least very highly regulated, does NOT in fact have reasonable consent from its performers, because they were not informed about what was going to happen.

[@briannalovesca]

Ro!! Your filmography is amazing! 🤩🤩 I’m loving the vibes❤

[@HideYourKarmaChameleon]

I appreciate your delayed delivery of this video! Worth the wait and is definitely a labor of love for your art/craft of storytelling and social analysis in new media. Well done! ❤

[@mintstar3]

ro i love your videos but it feels like if i watch more than one per month i will have a psychotic breakdown

[@mars_ffs]

LMAOO NO CUZ SAME😭✋️

[@that_one_l0ne_ghost]

It'll never not astound me how amazingly high quality your videos are, and your production value is phenomenal. it's a surprise you don't have any more subscribers, every one of your videos has been a banger !!! keep it up!

[@evilmikuplushie4603]

yess another ro video to draw to. you're for sure one of my favorite youtubers at the minute.

[@rjturnipsauce]

Ro, this is an incredible video. You are so insightful, and you can go so deep, but I always leave feeling hopeful. Thank you for sharing your brilliance.

[@sacharyy]

the cinematography of this is crazy. love your work so much Ro

[@xbluebirdx]

Rose your cinematography and presentation is so amazing and unique, and the way you present your topics while also being critical of yourself is something I haven't seen on here amongst the commentary youtube space, and is so refreshing, you're one of my favourite channels on here now.

[@soraya2531]

you are seriously one of the best creators on this platform. i adore your content and i can't wait to see you continue to flourish on youtube, ro

[@rabbitrichards3010]

just want to say thank you for the way you handle flashing light warnings ! i love that i get to enjoy your work without that migraine trigger.

[@dudeman8228]

I’m constantly wowed by Ro’s creativity and sheer quality of videos but I think this might be one of her best. So funny, introspective, and finely tuned, amazing work Ro :)

[@treeman639]

Best quote ever at 19:22 "more noise added to the image that we're mistaking for sharpness" this is so good

[@665Sunshine]

Hearing Rose talk about cumtown is like seeing Doja Cat wear a Sam Hyde photo on her t-shirt.

[@thecuriocabinet]

I'm not even done, but once again, I'm just SO captivated by the aesthetic of your videos, the cinematography, and the editing! It always looks so good and every video feels unique, yet seems like a natural part of the same collection.

[@RedMeansRecording]

Music in this episode kicks ass

[@roramdin]

Thank you my goat 😭❤️

[@FreedomPotatoes]

that "celebrity" song was so so good

[@tsaniklidu]

Aside from everything serious discussed in the video I just can’t help to mention that your scripts and videos which I discovered very recently just tickle my ADHD brain in such a satisfying way but at the same time since I’m not a Native English speaker sometimes I automatically get transported to a silly goofy place in my brain where nothing makes sense and then I just latch onto a phrase and continue understanding the gag of what you’re saying. Like, idk how you do that- one minute I’m like this is literal poetry and then akdjaksjjakdjskd and then go back to oh so that’s what we’re talking about okay great agreed moving on

[@katieweaver2856]

Your videos just keep getting better! You’re constantly raising the bar on creativity and quality. Camera upgrades, new editing tricks, you always have something up your sleeve. I love it!!!

[@TheOffensiveSenses]

I absolutely love the amount of style and effort you put into your videos. Just truly on another level

[@vodkalatke]

I'm the same age and gender as Taylor Swift (love to dox myself) and no matter how hard I try I absolutely can not understand the fanatical devotion she evokes. I don't mean that I don't like her music, though I don't, I mean I can't understand the appeal. For example, I'm not a huge Beyoncé fan either, but her showmanship, bold artistic direction, and huge selection of danceable hits absolutely explains her fame. Taylor's aesthetic is the opposite in my view, it's popstar-anti-popstar, it's understated in a way that celebrates averageness, its flannel and fast fashion sequins dresses. I don't understand how that appeals to so many people and causes such feverish exaltation. This sort of celebration of averageness seems inherently incompatible with the aspirational nature of celebrity and pop music. Even Billie Eilish wears Balenciaga, you know what I mean? Clearly, Swift's great parade of the ordinary is not at odds with celebritydom, but for myself, i find it baffling. I do think a great deal about what it means that so many women, from such a diverse age range (though not a great cultural diversity) are buying into this "normie as an ideal" marketing.

[@anabelanguyen1748]

Wait this is genuinely so interesting, I never see Taylor Swift wearing any designer clothing and you’re right, it’s different from typical fame appeal

[@cassielcruzchavolla809]

I think it's her relatablity that people like about her, swifties seem to think that Taylor Swift's songs give a voice to their thoughts and feelings. I also don't get the appeal as I don't relate to her and her music doesn't connect with me but I imagine that instead of being an aspirational or exceptional figure for her fans , they project onto her.

[@BrightAwake]

This is such a great take. The fever around this tour really made me feel like I'm missing something. I have a hard time even seeing what Taylor's appeal is beyond being average, and while I can wrap my mind around that average-ness making her relatable and even likeable to her audience, I have trouble understanding how it inspires the level of rabid fandom she has.

[@vodkalatke]

@BrightAwake thanks! You know what else blew my mind? Someone said that the girls who liked her when they were teens all now have good corporate jobs and disposable income and are in their 30s. That explains why they're able and willing to pay these high prices. Not just that, they also all buy new outfits, makeup, for this correct etc so a lot of money goes into this experience overall.

[@yourdad3275]

it’s 4am and after helplessly watching my cat maul another innocent creature on my carpet it is time to watch ro ramdin

[@doverfornow]

2 treats in one night! You are one lucky duck 🙈

[@yourdad3275]

@@doverfornow dinner and a show, what more could i want

[@yourdad3275]

@@juicebox1344 hobbits

[@pastelsheepy]

bilbo, no!!!!

[@muffinte]

i screamed when i got the notification yayyyy

[@atrium3399]

your videos are put together so incredibly well. the entire last section was amazing

[@cineselena]

I'm so appreciative I found your channel, been binging your stuff to keep my sanity during these rough times - seriously thank you for all the work you put into these.

[@bubthebubster9092]

its insane how high quality your videos are im obsessed

[@RosaFriend]

Another incredible video essay! Well done!

[@LifesNeverHumDrum]

I love the cinematography of that intro, you’re so talented. Also I LOVE you in this red shirt and eye makeup 😍 Thank you for informing me of things like this in a thoughtful and humerous way, for the folks like me who live under a rock

[@SaintShion]

Ro, thank you thank you for taking our comments as epileptics seriously. That means a lot to us!

[@tree_addict]

This was fantastic. The cinematography, writing, editing, all of it. I hope more kids like me find your channel, you honestly blew this video essay out of the park. Thank you Ro

[@indiadraz2642]

been watching for a while and every video your editing gets better and you stay the same (incredibly funny and charismatic). i did not pay attention to the first ten seconds of the video and am now lost for the rest of it. thanks for the content!

[@WolfwashereBOO]

Rose your editing gets better and better with every video. I feel like im watching a movie. It's amazing and I'm super impressed!! also i love cold leftovers its okay thank you for the meal

[@krapincorporated]

Ro is one of the few KZbinrs who makes videos so detailed and deliberate that I have to reserve a time to watch them so I can sit and soak in the entire thing. I don't run her videos in the background, I have to pore over them. The atmospheric little shots around the apartment make me literally feel like I'm in the room.

[@emmelinesprig489]

how can a single video make me laugh out loud and also immerse me in poetry? like, i’m just having some giggles and then suddenly i’m connecting to the universe. it’s so jarringly delicious

[@Noah-xf4mf]

Only a couple minutes in but I have to say this is by far one of your best intros holy shit im pumped for the rest of this video.

[@genrecritical]

Ro fandom W thank you for the long-form video, my boyfriend and I yell to each others rooms when we get your notifs 🌟

[@moreover6813]

I promise I was listening but the lavender shirt + eyeshadow combo was so lovely

[@LessTheWorld]

Ro that video has to be your best ever, genuinely overwhelming in a great way

[@muty1723]

Girl, I hadn't seen your videos in a while and they were already good and you managed to skyrocket the quality somehow! Excellent work, keep it up! Or don't, do whatever makes you happy.

[@kiwwykeen5305]

as soon as i am out of my own unironic hardship, i will be hopping on your patreon, as i really appreciate your thoughtful masterpieces. thank you for sharing this work of art and thought.

[@christineherrmann205]

One of things i love best about your scripts and delivery of them is that it's so _very_ human. I think trying to train an AI on you might be impossible right now, and I cherish that. Language is a gift, and the way you unwrap it is unique. I'm outside the age range target for the Swift conversation, but you grabbed me with the JKR stuff, and it feels like a similar conversation... except Swift may not be stupid enough to say anything. If she IS an actual rich progressive, she's like a unicorn. But performative is problematic. It just leaves me thinking "Well... thank God she's not a vocal TERF?"

[@ladyzoe5734]

Ro you knocked it out of the park. Brava!!🙏🏼

[@Cardboard_Bot]

Always blown away by your videos, you’re writing blows me away and when I first discovered your videos last year I though you were an older channel till I immediately went to your channel page to subscribe and watch more, cause your production quality is so high.

[@rotundrodent]

EXCELLENT intro! the editing is so slick this is fantastic work an im only 1 minute in! I have no clue who matty healy is and know nothing about talyor swift but i do know that this is ART! thankyuo for blessing us with you talents

[@deceitfuljester7172]

I'm one minute and twenty seconds in, I have no idea what's going on, but I already know I am going to be re-watching this several times this month. Take my like and this comment as algorithm food.

[@fairiecait]

I love ur videos ty for the dopamine snack

[@bluemai8776]

Your production is out of this world ✨

[@314oclock7]

your videos are so artistic and well-made and incredibly interesting, I watch everything you make because it's always good no matter the topic

[@bluemojav]

you are so quick-witted and well-spoken it blows me away

[@mascha2470]

incredible video, I love your humour and your editing and the whole vibe of your videos!!

[@pigeonboy8858]

god i have never been so excited to see a video pop up in my feed since noah gervais’ jedi knight dark forces series video and that is saying a LOT

[@sniffumevoli]

I'm only 1 minute and 10 seconds in and I've had to pick my jaw up off the floor why is the production quality so good ??

[@marigolden_mariposa]

21:09 "Dead Poets Society"

[@AAA_NNN_DDD]

watching on .75 bc my disassociative ass cant keep up when i use these as background noise 😭 love the content keep doing you ro

[@BAMFdude15]

I forget which video creator featured you in their video, but I am so glad they did because this video has sold me so fast on not only your analytical takes and even handed judgement, but also the comedic bits made me cackled like a wild hyena. Perfection and I can't wait to watch more

[@marsbie]

That opening was excellent i love these weekly Ro videos

[@unclassedmedia]

the music on this was fantastic! nice work.

[@zhioba]

your music is completely fire also jeez that outro touched my bones