TaylorMade P770 Iron VS Mizuno MP20 HMB Iron

[@lesliezeta]

Would love it if you could do a comparison of the new 921 Forged vs the HMB!

[@ToniaHan]

Me too, I want that comparison also.

[@nathancallaghan1]

Yes I am stuck between those two and there is only one other video on it and I want Michael thoughts and review!!!

[@fak66]

Thanks for making my decision easier for replacing my irons in fall. Mizuno numbers and dispersion better than TM. Its a no-brainer + nothing feels like a Mizuno!

[@JDSFLA]

This is the review I have been waiting for, because when the 770 was launched, I immediately felt that the HMB was the natural competitor. I feel that their styling is equally appealing. However, I would choose the Mizuno HMB, as the slightly larger head would give me more confidence over the ball.

[@mattmcgriff5952]

Been shopping the new 790s w a graphite shaft as I’m wanting to make the switch. Went to the local standalone range that has a nice little shop and club fitting setup and he had a set of HMBs with the recoils in them for a steal of a price. Went on the Mizuno swing analysis club and the shafts were in the recommendation range for me and I took the plunge. Looking forward to getting them out later in the week.

[@DartsandHipHop]

Just played Bethpage black with the hmb’s. Best irons ever. 5 iron on the famed 17th Back tees. Stuck a foot from its pitch mark 6 feet from the hole. Shot of my life.

[@MichaelNewtonGolf]

🙌

[@JCW-jx6ld]

I have HNB kbs 130x c taper feels just as nice as 4 previous Mizuno Mps and more forgiving 🤗

[@srenfriskmortensen8780]

Michael: Here you can see data that show HMB clearly is the winner in comparison. Also Michael: I favor the P770 purely because it looks more sexy in my bag. No, great stuff Michael! Keep these comparisons coming, it’s way better than single reviews that always comes with the conclusion that it’s a good club (no one makes bad clubs these days)...

[@annefilippobertozzi7601]

I still have to see a bad review of anything... either all the new clubs are very good, lately, or all the you tubers don’t want to lose their money. I start finding all these reviews are the same and pretty useless: you really need to test by yourself.

[@integrito3323]

@@annefilippobertozzi7601 Go on Anne!

[@matthewkodamaADG]

Obviously way too small sample size, but the initial standard deviation of the carry distance (arguably the most important factor) favors the Mizuno. MN said he missed a few shots on each club... early findings show Mizuno is more forgiving. Either way, both clubs appear great.

[@hobbesbcr]

Nice to know I'm not the only one that ignores the numbers and buys on looks alone... but I do game the HMB's so there's a win for me!

[@tomashehir]

Are the hmb suited to lower handicap or mid?

[@TRIKushbeachside]

It’s funny I just watched the P7MC vs 921 Tour both 7Irns with More loft going the same distance. I really don’t buy into the tech irons going farther. I’m sure these irons maintain better ball speed out of the toe/heel but if you make a good shot the only thing that matters is loft. I’m really glad that I only have a couple larger “distance” irons. I will most likely be getting those out of the bag.

[@josephrobinett867]

Picked up some 770's this year. Loving them.

[@MichaelNewtonGolf]

Great iron

[@joedoaks6517]

Michael, I remember that you were a big fan of the original P770. The new P770 is the same size, identical offset, and slightly strongly lofts (0.5 degrees) in some irons, but not across the board. I would be interested in seeing a comparison between the original P770's and the new 770's. Because the specs are so similar, it would be interesting to see the influence of hollow body and foam vs a non-hollow bodied iron of nearly identical spec.

[@omeradhia]

Great review. Thanks for doing this. Seems TM hasn’t solved the flier issue with their hollow body irons. I will try both 770 and HMB but mizuno seems to be a winner if dispersion is important

[@davidmccutcheon1903]

Michael, would really like to see you do some playing course vlogs - talk about how you approach shots - what you are thinking going into each shot etc ....

[@stevedietrich8936]

Thanks Mike. p770 vs 921 forged if you haven't done so already.

[@ramellis65]

Steve Dietrich yea that would be good

[@evoviiiyou831]

Thanks MN! It’s great seeing this hollow head w/copper tungsten vs hollow head with speed foam tungsten. I think they are both gorgeous and really it comes down o brand loyalty, fit, and subjective feel for this pair. Hard choice but I would have to take the Mizzy here.

[@spidey.bh1144]

P7mb vs 620 mb and same with mcs and cbs please!

[@henrypena8658]

Hi Michael, Can you please compare the P760 to the new P770s? I’m interested since I pre ordered the P770 but game the P760s now. If no comparison, can you give your opinion since you previously reviewed the 760s. Thank you

[@booger65man]

Glad Taylormade is pulling back from the jacked lofts. I don’t care for the polished and satin mix but do you like the more traditional loft and smaller head.

[@rogerhill99]

I love the background to the hole, missing the Lakes

[@Dan_BCtoAZ]

Great review Michael, I had the JPX 919 Hot Metal Pros in a Nippon 105 regular flex but loved the look of the new HMB’s (in a Nippon 120 stiff) so I went to them but just couldn’t get along with them so I’m back in a new set of JPX 919 Hot Metal Pros with a C-Taper Lite 110 regular shaft and I’m much happier! In saying all that, if you choose a beautiful new iron head like the 770’s make sure you get fitted for the proper shaft, it makes a world of difference.

[@BuffaloBarber24]

Dan what didn’t you like about the HMB ?

[@gregkuper1387]

See some requests for p770 vs jpx921. Would also be curious to see a comparison with the Wilson D7 Forged.

[@cameronloveless1751]

👆🏼this

[@GRIFF22]

Seemed to be quite a considerable drop off on p770 mishits

[@colorado_koolaid2625]

Yeah p770 is all over the place but edges it out lol. I’ll take more GIR please

[@marvinfrench2263]

Can you test the p770 against the Mizuno pro 225?

[@tonyoddone5577]

Love the Mizzys. Way more forgiving which the majority of us need.

[@Murf1802]

Thanks Mike awesome as usual!!!! Only facts lol. !!! Mike I game both the mp20 HMB and the p790 depends on how I feel that day lol lol !!! I gotta tell you I believe the p790 is the winner I've killed both sets on the course and p790 is a horse of a club. Very soft in the middle of the face of course ,,, my feel is the mp20 is a little heavier not as forgiving Idk just saying anyway I think the p770s are for a much better player different categorie all together ,,that's all Mike thanks again great stuff!!!!

[@LeeTrevinoFans]

The vid we were all wondering when it was coming....Glad you actually pick apples to apples.

[@shaggybazoom3616]

Great head to head, one I’ve been looking fwd to. Keep up the good work.

[@rsicho]

love the look of the TM P series, however they still couldn't manage the dispersion, this is where Mizuno shines

[@bobwelsh1601]

I've played the HMBs for about 6 months. They are the highest performing irons I've ever played. They are high and long, and feel as good as any forged clubs I've ever had in my bag. Michale, the spin differences are interesting, as I've had to learn to be a bit more aggressive hitting into greens because the ball stops on the proverbial dime. I will agree that the top edge is a bit thick but that's a minor complaint. I love my HMBs and from your test see no reason to try the new TM.

[@BuffaloBarber24]

Bob Welsh are you still playing the HMB?

[@bobwelsh1601]

@@BuffaloBarber24 yes! I still Luv ‘em even though the Pro 225s have gotten incredible rebiews

[@joeyjoejoeshabadoo]

there's clearly a difference in dispersion there with the hmbs being much tighter. I dont know why at the end of the review you go on about the "tech" in the 770s with the speed slot, seen as there was a much bigger drop off with low strikes on them compared to the hmb. From a cosmetics standpoint, yeah fair enough the 770s look a bit nicer though.

[@swingeasyguy]

I just purchased the 770 purely on looks, and did take one swing on the course with a 6 iron. I'm a 3.3 so I can hit any club. (tried the 790's at an outdoor fitting and just didn't like the look and feel). I got fit with the DG 105 shaft, hopefully will be my set for 7-10 years

[@florianbarras]

I'm a 3.5 and just got the 770. It feels great, however the 4 & 5 have a very clicky and loud sound in my set. Does yours sound the same too?

[@mcmullanation]

Could you compare p770 vs jpx 921 forged?

[@aaronrothwell9026]

Surely the spin rate can be manipulated through shaft selection? Hmb is definitely a club to blend?

[@keepit100kg]

Off the grass, the P770 would have a solid amount of spin so I think it's P770 all the way.

[@newberry654987]

Hi Michael great video as always, could you compare the p770 to the ping i500. Thanks.

[@michaelforrester816]

Changed out of the i500 for the Miz HMB. Dispersion front to back much tighter. i500 v sexy but the occasional very hot one gets you in trouble, imo

[@chrispark6460]

Mizuno mp20 vs taylor p770 mb ?

[@jackiechow860]

Great vid! I’m looking to get a new set of irons. Deciding between the P770, ZX7, and 921 Tour/Forged

[@rsicho]

Go for Mizuno! At the end of the day Mizuno irons win.

[@jimmcmahon2376]

Hit them all and then decide whats best for you

[@bobio18]

Did you use the same shaft in both clubs? Would different shafts affect spin rate and/or launch angle?

[@MichaelNewtonGolf]

Yes same in both. Shafts can alter spin and launch ever so slightly

[@paddlegolf40]

le test que j attendais! merci

[@ams7260]

Hmmm I think you are more a TM guy. While actually looking at the review: 1. Data result: quite similar. 2. Left to right dispersion: similar 3. Distance dispersion (by horizontal result): Mizuno wins. 4. Strike sound: definitely Mizuno. 5. Feedback sound: Mizuno (I close my eyes, and when it comes to Mizuno, I know when you hit it perfect or not). 6. Looks: both looks great.

[@brettrobertson2538]

are both of these clubs for the low handicap golfer?? I am an 13 so I was wondering

[@wallstreetoneil]

The HMB could be played by anyone - it is not a small iron. The 770 is smaller, but you can easily play then as a 13

[@brettrobertson2538]

@@wallstreetoneil the 2 pros that I talked to told me it would not be a good club for me. I also went and hit the 770 and 790's and they both were hard to hit. Probably going to go with the Ping G425

[@wallstreetoneil]

@@brettrobertson2538 Honestly, they don't know what they're talking about then. The only club that isn't completely appropriate for a 13 is a complete set of blades - and even then, you could combo blades, PW-8 irons, then switch to 7,6,5 in HMBs, and then if you want a 4 iron (I stop at a 24 degree 5 iron), use a Hot Metal Pro type club. Go demo some Srixon ZX5s, Mizuno Hot Metal Pros & HMBs, and Callaway Apex & Pros - there are lots of great irons out there.

[@brettrobertson2538]

@@wallstreetoneil yeah the guy did tell me about the combo but honestly I could not hit the 790 consistently and if I could not do that no way was I going to try the 770's.

[@saintcruzin]

I wouldn’t say the HMB are completely hollow with two 12 gram tungsten weights in the heel and toe. Still fine review, dispersion was the biggest difference. I bought the HMB’s....

[@jasonwarlond6743]

Loving the reviews Michael. Do you think these are targeted and someone that would also look at the Wilson D7 forged, also taking into account that the Wilsons are close to half the cost of the TMs. Would be great to see a head to head with these with your preferred shaft.

[@marc6652]

The question is witch one is better for an average golfer because not many of us swing like Michael and shot 180 miles with a 7 iron. And is this item, the more forgiven is the better.

[@jackvliet]

Sweet vid

[@SMUGAMER]

Mizzy all the way for me. Dont like the shading and black colors on the TM Heads. Mizzy kept it clean and uniform with the all metal look! Differences in performance was a non-factor.

[@socalgolf9978]

They look very similar to each other

[@markburton4209]

500 rvs due to the 1 degree of loft. These spin the same but the mizuno is tighter dispersion. Mizuno for me

[@jetdr]

Both very nice but also very pricey!!

[@kenbuckingham879]

Thanks Mike, great video, for me it's the Mizuno, more forgiving, dispersion is king. Would love to see Titleist T100, Mizuno 921 Tour, Srixon ZX 7 and TM 7mc head to head, now that would be a great video to watch.

[@cameronloveless1751]

Looking forward to a 3 way shoot-out between P7-MB, MP20 and your WIlson Staff blades Michael 🤤

[@jackvliet]

I agree with this

[@aaronmccardie8795]

For me I prefer the taylormade just on overall looks smaller head less offset and thinner top line..

[@nigelsmith2379]

i prefer the look of the TM

[@booger65man]

@6:04 did I hear a mouse?

[@georgesmith4639]

You most likely heard a golf shoe since he was in a swing.

[@MichaelNewtonGolf]

Mouse, frog, floorboard or maybe just my shoes

[@ryancrawford2982]

As nice as these irons are it’s still your swing that’s the most impressive, keep up the good work 👍

[@nicolasleano1269]

Do a MP 20 MMC vs P7MC!!!

[@paulmcgee1867]

Wow these look so similar

[@TRIKushbeachside]

HAYYCH M B 🤣

[@SpinandThrowDiscGolf]

190 yard 7 iron. Why? You hit the blades much straighter

[@rothvonhoyte]

P770 has much more usable spin.

[@markking3779]

👍👍👍

[@ermangus]

Mizuno results better even with the low strikes.

[@darrenmiller1981]

Stopping distance be damned, the Mizuno gave a far tighter dispersion and was more predictable on off centre strikes - HMB for me...

[@MrAhuraMazda]

30 degree 7 iron is absolutely unacceptable. I need my pw-7 as surgical as possible, no use for a 200 yard 7. Thank God they adjusted i love the p790s otherwise

[@BuffaloBarber24]

What do you mean thank god they adjusted?

[@timothygorrell4714]

No way I’m golfing with an iron that has a bolt in it...Mizuno all day long

[@JDSFLA]

Frankenstein head?

[@cynt1111]

Me too, love my HMBs

[@joedoaks6517]

So you would not play Ping Blueprint blades?

[@timothygorrell4714]

Joe Doaks no I don’t think I would,when it comes to blades,nobody’s forging compares to Mizuno..although those blueprints are gorgeous,just not a fan of the screw in an iron,pxg irons look to busy to my eye

[@ThomasGail]

What about the PXG's? lol

[@CSqrdX]

P770 is clearly superior. 540 RPMs of spin is not a little bit. That's quite a substantial difference. Lower standard deviation across and still higher output with a degree of loft less. 20 HMB is clearly prone to the hot flyer that sails the green.

[@michaelforrester816]

Iv never had a problem with hot ones from my Hmb set. The ping i500 s I had previous were very prone to this. Hmb probably the best overall club iv used.

[@bradbop767]

The letter H is a whole ass word for this guy

[@jacobp2018]

TM made a club that’s better feeling, looking, and sounding than a mixing with this one.

[@rsicho]

Michael... I hope you are not getting paid by TM to worship their clubs...

[@donwongjohnson3223]

Mizuno over tm any day

[@cynt1111]

Hmb pisses all over the TM , soft and it spins.

[@Bogeypro256]

It didn't spin on the mis hit... 4000s rpm... that isn't holding a green. Hmb looks huge compared to the 770.

[@Bogeypro256]

Hmb spun less on average according to his results....

[@robertcrawford2941]

Don’t understand this review. Hmb is game improvement. 770 is a better players club. Should have compare the cobra and the 770. Similar sole and less offset.