Kendas Vs Lionhearts Which Tires Will Last Longest drifting!?

[@addisonwasiuta6109]

Taylor out here doing God’s work

[@dylancolburn5296]

addison Wasiuta lmfao comment of the day sir

[@user-yg1ze8sq5y]

You should honestly do more videos like this. I really like the comparison parts of the video like pros and cons about the 2 sets, it was a different kind of video and i really think you did a great job with how you approached this type of video👍🏽

[@curtischornohos6365]

i just had a track day with my LS 240sx, makes 365whp. running a 235/40r18 Zestino Gredge 240 treadwear at 30 psi. i got 16 laps that day on them, and i had 2-3 laps on them from a previous day. i was running on a smaller track, the video is the latest one on my channel if you wanted to have a look for comparison. the tires held lots of grip right up to the end where i spun out. I've got a couple sets of the zestino acrova to try as well, which is supposed to last even longer with similar grip. We get these tires in canada for about $120 plus shipping (probably cheaper in the states) The other tire i'm going to test is the Zenna Argus UHB. i ran them on a previous car, same size and was getting upwards of 25 laps no problem (On a different track layout though) I appreciate what your doing with the technical analysis on tires! I've been gathering my own data to finally figure out which tire reigns supreme!

[@JAVIER12321]

Nankang NS-20's and Achillies ATR Sport-2 and Sports should be the next set you should test. 4 new nankang ns-20 right now on ebay are going for $292.00 for a 265/35/18. For Achillies ATR Sport & Sport 2's going for 302.88 for a set of 4 as well.

[@TrevorCanToo]

Taylor is the BEST amateur do it yourself drift youtuber there is!

[@jeepsterdaddy37]

I love how you broke the price down per lap. That's something that I've always been curious about but never been able to calculate it or I'm never seen anybody do it.

[@Tman52]

I ran a set of Sentury tires 225/40r18 on my Z vs a set of Kenda's on different days. The Kenda's faaaaar out performed the Sentury's. I averaged about 20 laps on the Kenda's on a 80 degree day, vs 12 on a 50 degree day and a patchy wet-dry track. Sentury's can be bought at discount for about $55 a tire, Kenda I can get between 70-80. And like you saw, you can safely run kenda's to the literal end of their life without causing additional damage.

[@z33tanner]

I drift and daily drive my Z would Kendas all the way around be a good option? I live in central CA so I don't need winter tires.

[@theresaoakes9387]

have you tried federal 595s? relatively cheap and Im pretty sure Ryan Literal runs them too.

[@Missileworksllc]

Theresa Oakes 595 super steels are absolutely terrible

[@_Bonez12]

those are way more expensive than what he's running now and much harder to get

[@zeekdavis11]

Kyle B Federal’s are not hard to get...I haven’t had any problems getting mine

[@Klutchylol]

Probably too grippy for a stock 350z. I had 595RS-R's on the front and SS's on the back of my 300+hp supra and it was a real hassle to break them free, had to really chuck it in hard.

[@the86ofmtakina]

Federals suck as a rear. They get greasy and chunk

[@prism7164]

Who's cat is that in the background near the couch??? Is it a strey

[@prism7164]

Thanks for that highlight

[@StewieUpdate]

really glad you are delving into the real side of drifting most beginners or people that are trying to get into drifting don't know yet thanks love the vids keep doin you

[@Dwooten206]

Drifters appreciate you doing these experiments Taylor. Thanks

[@stewarthorsley3405]

I’m in Australia & I’m a tight ass but I use retread tyres cause they cost me $30 each. Good thing when they delam there is no belts to stuff your car up. As long as you run low tyre pressure they old up sweet. They also smoke better than any other tyre I have used. A lot of the guys that compete in burnout comps use them

[@JosMyOpinion]

Stewart Horsley how do the retreads work?

[@mikemartin1200]

regardless they are the same price, safety comes into play, kendas are safer so you should go with those. also after 20 years how has no company made a drift compound / drift tire? wtf

[@nealzucker613]

zestino has. really though, its just a large cost to develop a product to a (relatively) small market.

[@mikemartin1200]

your perspective on how many people drift across this country every weekend is very limited. not to mention, the close nit street drifter groups that drift pretty much every night in out of site(mexico) areas.

[@xRamRacing]

What exactly is a drift compound?

[@mikemartin1200]

when a company gets off their ass and uses all their R&D data to create a compound that doesnt get extremely soft after 10 seconds and basically vanishes thereafter

[@Tanner731]

why would they make tires that lasted longer for drifting? think about it, the more tires you go through the more tires you'll buy from them. also all their R&D in drifting is going to come from FD where they want softer more grippy tires than your average joe doin skids on the weekend. zestino was teasing a "practice" compound for awhile that supposedly lasted pretty long but I havent been able to find anything more about those tires.

[@TheZach02010]

Zestino tires are super popular here in the Alberta drift community! I’m not sure which model of tire people are running but I've heard good things. I've had one set of winter tires from them and they've served me well!

[@GftdHoodie]

i would like to see how federal 595 tires do. they dont seem to be a very sporty tire just have a sporty tread.

[@00ruva00]

Taylor is just a baller for killing it at the track

[@ExhaustedOfficial]

Tyres are a nightmare for drifters, such a money pit but it’s always worth it👌🏻🤙🏻🔥

[@userTomTom]

Exhausted i See you everywhere lol

[@ExhaustedOfficial]

T. St Its crazy 😂 must both enjoy watching the same videos 😂

[@userTomTom]

Exhausted 😂😂

[@LFSPharaoh]

Now I see why those tire sponsors are where it’s at. I mean I knew all along but when you look at the numbers it almost hurts lol

[@KiingTx]

Dude I see you on every video I watch HOLY SHIT😂

[@SkidiotsGarage]

Taylor please go try a Triangle TR968, they make a 225/40/18 or a 235/45/18, you will not be disappointed and I’ll bet money they last longer than the Kendra’s!!!

[@Ajrubioooo]

Super interested in this also! I had 4 triangles that were almost 2 years old and heat cycled from an event. The 4 lasted me the whole day on a hot lap track with 350hp. Didn’t chunk or delaminate either which usually happens with old used tires

[@johnnyhoodz]

Used ACHILLES ATR SPORT on my G37S Coupe; $63-$64 per tire. Only changed a set twice in 6 months for weekend practice.

[@ilikeboost4764]

You should try Federal 595 rsr. Alan liked those in his frs.

[@theresaoakes9387]

those are nice and the 595 evo's have decent traction in the rain. imo

[@sanyone1659]

i think that you have to spray the tires with water while you are drifting if you want them to last longer... also try spraying less water or put a bigger tank maybe.. so you can spray while you drift for however long you want

[@sputnik8407]

What a about the Lion Heart for an old man going on his Cadillac to the store? Great video ! Thanks !

[@dalewaller2700]

Don't know if you can get them in the states, but have had good experience and feed back on goodride's and a brand called hifly. There easily available in Australia and not that expensive, tbh alot of our pro drivers here use the good ride semi slicks or Achilles 123s

[@Missileworksllc]

Try the zestino gredge 07r. Not the acrovas (they’ve been hit or miss) but the hard compound 07r have been amazing

[@curtischornohos6365]

i've been trying out the gredge, got 16 laps on my last set, have a couple sets of the acrova to try as well. heard about them chunking off sometimes, so a few guys tried running them backwards and said they lasted longer. ever hear that?

[@Missileworksllc]

Curtis Chornohos for ages I’ve seen other people run directional tires backwards and I’ve done it myself with the federals. But with the better tires like kendas and zestinos I have not. Haven’t had the need when I’m getting 15-20 laps out of a pair. It might be worth a try with the acrovas though.

[@curtischornohos6365]

yeah i'm getting about the same amount of laps with around 350whp on a 235/40r18. i don't get how some of these guys chew through tires so fast!

[@MsSomeonenew]

Laps only mean something on the same track... also extremely dependent how much you are really drifting.

[@Dirty_mike39]

Love it! There is alot ot controversy on zestinos but with the way I drive hands down the best tire out there! Iron man imoves imo is a close second as fast best bang for your buck. It also depends on the track. The track we slide is a cheese grater on most tires

[@Alex_Lindsay717]

try ironman imove gen2 they are pretty grippy and last a good amount of time. also only cost about 50-60 per tire

[@jayyoung1320]

this was a good video. you should do another test at a track with short runs. im curious how much longer they last when they have time to cool.

[@MonkeyGameHD]

Some drifters in my area ( in france ) use Star Perfomer tires. They have been using Kenda too but has a beginner they say to me to try both. I plan to try both kenda and starperfomer at next event in 205/16/50 (45euros per tire)

[@MrNicoe36cabrio]

Maybe you shout compare them on a slow track too, like the small Orlando track...It will take some more time, but maybe interesting too?.....Great video Taylor.

[@joshuasutton3175]

I would do another test at osw IMO. Only reason i say that is because each run was different with the use of the hand brake. Like when you noticed that you would hold the hand brake to long and flate spot the tire. The test would be alot better if your running the skid pad and see how the tread would wear thru each session. Just my 2 cents.

[@charlespurcell9367]

Keep it up bro your videos are the best really helping the community!

[@tomhalloran3509]

If you add in time/cost for mounting tires and swapping them, the Kendas prove a little bit better value as you have less labor time/cost into running them. Also if you end up with timed run groups and you are able to just cord a set of kendas over the full session, you would only get 75% of the session before you would have to swap tires or sit out with the lionhearts.

[@S-Kidz]

You should try Achilles radials atr sport there about 60 dollars a tire and u can get them at walmart

[@z33tanner]

Just bought a set of 4 for my 350z. I got the Achilles ATR Sport 2 though in 225/45/18 front and 245/45/18 out back

[@Tanner731]

time to get some of the practice zestinos and some winter tires to test vs the kendas

[@rdrack8693]

I think your problem might be a throttle body issue, what you described is the same that happened to my dad three times on his fiat Siena a couple years ago, if you clean it up it might work again (already posted on 110mph entry video)

[@luthvianna]

Very cool interesting and informative video 👍🏼 thanks Taylor you should make a video talking about all the cost for a weekend drift. How many hours, gas, maintenance etc... I’m looking to buy a drift car just not sure which one would be the most reliable if a z or any other with v8.

[@5lcalais1]

ever considered hard compound d.o.t. semi slicks? know a few people using them for practice tyres and usually get near 1 - 2 months out of a set and that's drifting 1 day every week 3-4 hrs per 1 day, there a little less grippy but last ages. :)

[@NotTheChad-]

NEED MORE VIDEOS LIKE THIS! Such a good idea and I’m glad someone is doing it!

[@ramprider1]

After watching you for a couple years now on KZbin, I finally saw you shred in person at PBIR. Killed it!

[@lordperezident]

Whose Mercedes is that?? I have a 1995 E300D with over half a million miles on it currently! :) Also you never mentioned what website you order your tires from. What place do you use?

[@dandunlap4941]

Blanco Escondido he has stated in previous videos that he usually buys from tire rack's website, or simple tire's site. his video on buying tires is super informative!

[@userTomTom]

Maybe you should try Nangkang?

[@tptrsn]

They come apart ugly.

[@SylasG]

Garbage.

[@twostangs81]

try federal tires, they are pretty cheap and last a decent amount of time, would be a great comparison to kenda's. The 595 rsrr are a great tire for the money so thats where i would start for comparison

[@pympin87]

the lionhearts also means more stops to change tires ... and more chances to break things when they blow out

[@CarModsGarage]

Nice comparison man. I am about to get some tires for my drifter.

[@westsurfer87]

I'd imagine having a solid axle would give you better/more consistent tire wear? I have a Volvo 240 so I'm trying to take that into account

[@DieselboostedNorway]

Hi, I have tried out this myselv, with other brands, and spesifications.. I have found that tire with higher load index holds longer, as in my case, I do most burnouts in my car, for now, and I work at a tire dealer, so I get free used tires, I started with a good threaded 195/65r15, it hold a burnout for 2 minutts before poping, and that was with wheel speed above 100mph att all times.. tried with 195/70r15 wiitch is a tire for bigger vehicles, like delivery truck etc, they lasted for almost 5 minutts on the same skid pad, the same day and aprox the same speed

[@rhammerfist]

I like the Accelera Phi Tires on my Sr20 S14.5. They are pretty Cheap too.

[@darkwolf1618]

good video i run kendas myself but i would definitely like to see more comparisons and maybe similar comparisons but from a high speed vs low speed layout

[@arn6376]

@Taylor Ray did you ever test the difference between a 235 and 265 tire?

[@Elver_Galarga_jugo]

Have you tried Fuzion UHP Sports? I had these on my old daily mustang and between a bunch of burnouts and a few week ends sliding around theyve lasted me about 4 months and still have half the tread life left. I kept my wheels amd tires when I sold them and I'll be throwing them on my drift fox when I'm done with it. And at $73.61 a tire, I think k they're a steal. Just don't use them in the front, they have a stupidly soft sidewall. Also they were 245/45/17s on the same 17x9 Cobra R wheels you have

[@BoofTuning]

I think size matters to but I run a set of tires called tiger paws and I make 250rwhp and 300ish wheel tourqe and run a 16 205 60 size and one set lasted 12 laps at gainsville

[@ModItAllGarage]

tire rack states the tire tread depth from factory on the specs breakdown. If you want to compare that also. Looks like Kendas got 10/32nd's cant find info on the Lionharts

[@SylasG]

Mod It All Garage Kenda KR20 have TONS of tread compared to other tires people use. They’re meaty.

[@jamesfcookjr]

Taylor also have to count the temperature of the track throughout the day the hotter the asphalt on the track or concrete will go through tires more

[@danmcgovern1975]

You should also take into account the cost of getting the tires mounted, like you said the normal person isn’t mounting their own tires. I think you’re right, the Kendas are better because you don’t have to bring as many wheels & the cost to mount the tires would be less for the same number of laps compared to the lionhearts. Great video, definitely try out more tires! You are like Bill Nye the tire guy!!

[@migoman98]

I really liked this comparison, maybe with more/better visuals of the data and having an excel spreadsheet that you update each time you test other tires so we could reference it. Obviously the data would be taken with a grain of salt due to variables.

[@NIGHTKINGSBIGRIG]

hey bro danno if u get hiflys there but i found the hifly 805s where cheap as and smoke hard good grip

[@emilkuttel1]

Smoke hard but don't last.

[@NIGHTKINGSBIGRIG]

Emil Kuttel i got a like 10 laps at barbagallo when i was in aussie in a 25det 3rd gear on limiter but they were heaps cheaper then most others

[@Onelovej]

Has anyone tried accelera PHI R I’ve heard good things about them thinking about ordering a pair

[@stealthygsr]

Please do this comparison with the ATR Sport 2's not just the ATR Sport vs KR20

[@yairmunoz3293]

Hey guys im not a tire person so i dont really know how to choose one. I got some wheels and i need tires. They are 17’s and they are 7inches wide got any recommendations? They’re just for my daily. Its a 2012 vw gti

[@shaolincruz2891]

My hero !!! Wut up 🤙🏽 !!! Sick content once again much love 👊🏽

[@Woot_ST]

If you have a tire rack hook up the Firestone firehawks are super cheap in a 235

[@NotTheChad-]

What tire pressures were you running that day? And do you run lower pressures when you tandem?

[@lukesansotta266]

try kapsen tyres Iv been using them on my car iv been running 245/45 R 19 r they const around $60 each shipped

[@Nwaboosted]

This was a great video. Very helpful and great breakdown awesome stuff Taylor for real. GREAT JOB

[@bryanmurphy26]

Definitely avoid tires that delaminate. The damage they can cause to the brake lines and fenders could negate any savings. Plus there are plenty of dirt cheap tires that will wear down to nothing without delaminating.

[@josephfilek8261]

This might sound crazy but put a kenda on the driver rear and the lionhearts on the passenger and see what pops first. And through out the event change it like kenda driver to kenda passenger.

[@jr42a1]

I have a Ford 7.3L Turbo diesel E450 Cutaway with a box on the frame behind the cab. I had purchased numerous Nexan "LT series" tires for my truck (from Sams club) and had issues with tires bubbling on the sidewall.Sams even got to the point with me that they were asking what I was doing with the truck? One day about 2 years ago I got fed up and bought (4) Lionheart LT series 225/75/R16 tires for my truck rear duallys with aggressive all weather tread off of Ebay and said F-it... cant be any worse than what keeps on failing... Not 1 bubble in my Lionheart tires and my truck is always loaded heavy. I will never buy Nexan again. Just too many reoccuring issues... PLUS Sams always bitched about installing duallys on my truck.I went out and bought an older used coats tire machine for $600 cash and do it myself. Im tired of kissin asses and waiting all afternoon long in a waiting room seeing tire techs playin on their phones and "claiming" they are busy beyond belief when the garage is clearly empty. Its what America has been reduced to.... L-A-Z-Y. Has anyone ever felt like this ?

[@smokeyhouseproductions]

Dude I have also have hd great success on Kendas I think they are a great tyre for drifting just an idea have you tried running them backwards to see if that makes a difference!? Apparently directional tyres run much colder in reverse not sure if it’s a myth but that’s how I run them and they last ages!

[@emilkuttel1]

An old school Japanese driver told me that about 15 years ago, they draw air into the channels in the tire. Definitely works a treat. And go the federal 595. Get twice as long as a cheap tyre.

[@IDlikeanEvo]

Crazy video Taylor 👌 amazing seriously, I love the way you put Time and effort into it, cause its reflect very Much on the contents that you give us!!

[@mikewassmer3935]

Hey I Taylor I would look into some radar tires or sumitomo’s.

[@DanDreese]

You should do the same test at OSW to see if the results change much at slower speeds. The roadcourse seems like almost a worst case scenario (which is helpful in itself).

[@meggabitz]

My SRT392 eats back tires, I am going to give the Lionharts LH-5 a shot, they are $140 a tire. Granted, I dont drift it... like you do... Its for regular street driving and dragging in Mexico ;)

[@TYLERbuilt]

I'm curious to see how the Tri-ace tires compare

[@justinpowers8714]

Might be a stupid question but could you daily drive these tires, they seem a lot cheaper than tires you’d get from lets say pepboys

[@PeterAlfonso]

justin powers yeah that's what they are intended for, there's no tire just made for drift unfortunately

[@justinpowers8714]

Peter Alfonso I guess where I’m confused is why are they cheaper than normal tires from a tire shop if they perform better

[@jayyoung1320]

tires come in all different types and quality. tires people get for drifting are usually on the lower end of quality. also pep boys needs to make money. the $67 off brand tires i get are great for drifting but i wouldnt run them on my daily driver. even those would probably be 80-90 at a shop.

[@z33tanner]

Well I'll give you my feedback once I mount my new Achilles ATR Sport 2's got for only $65 a tire on amazon I daily drive and drift my 350z so I hope there good.

[@Mike21127]

Had Lionhart tires on my street car for 2 years and they were way better than the goodyears i took off. Stopped and started nice in rain and decent in snow. LH-5's

[@MX304]

Any difference in tire life after the camber changes?

[@moshsquaddrift3976]

Taylor you should bed liner that truck. Keep it mint . Looks way better than mine.

[@highskewl_]

Hey Taylor, I hope you read this lol Try Zestino Acrova’s! Go to Lone Star Drift fb group and look at the unbiased tire review of KR20’s versus the Acrova’s. They lasted almost 2x the laps as the kenda’s and they LOVE to sponsor drift dudes.

[@kimomena29]

wait... you spray them with what? I've never heard anything about spraying them...

[@ThomasMiata]

I usually run a 225/45/17 conti pro contact free take off from my buddy who works at a bmw dealership... overall.. crap grip, crap smoke, crap life.. but free..and I mount my own tires so that's free too.

[@tylervaughn7538]

Have you tried any of the champiro gts?

[@joshuabrown1323]

Try the zestino acrova

[@distortedfears]

I'd say try Federal 595's just because alt of people use them not sure on price differences.

[@shuerta93]

I drift on Ironman Imove tires, they seem to last long and have decent grip for cheap tires

[@collinmcclenahan9957]

Have you ever tried Michelin Hydroedges? I saw Drifts n Lifts talking about them, they're 800 treadwear and allegedly last for fucking ever.

[@chaserogers2529]

Try a champoint blacklion 245/45 or 245/40 about $90 a piece

[@dapperdanbuilds]

Something that you're not taking into account is the amount of time spent changing tires at an event, as well as the added damaged caused by the tire coming apart. The Kenda mostly stays together, thus, no damage. Time is money, also.

[@MartinKrafft]

With the tires, you have to take into account the damage they could cause. You could also measure profile depth with a caliper.

[@crazymicah123]

Try some Light truck tires just a thought

[@jamiewhite5824]

Here in Ireland we used westlake tyres

[@buckrogers4930]

Destructive nature of the tire could be a factor as well. The lionheart put you in the pits for a while fixing the damage to breaks etc. also costing you time on track.

[@dallasderma9980]

I use Hankook ventus 195/50/15 on my datsun, about 50$ per tire they last quite a few laps

[@itzgangzta]

Have you tried nankang ns20s?

[@brokeeastmeet]

bump Taylor Ray hooking it up 6 years in the past

[@taverill1]

Can you start a series testing all types of tires? This was awesome to watch

[@quentinrs2507]

Nice video Taylor ! What is the Mercedes in your driveway ?

[@garretthimmer9692]

Accelera phi tires, really enjoy them

[@Likethetacosauce]

What about federals???

[@jordanalexander3117]

Where in orlando can you drive for free ?

[@Chpolly509]

Try out some zestino gredge tires !!