In this video, I go over all of the loot in Tempest Keep and Serpentshrine Cavern and break down what classes should be prioritized for certain items. Spreadsheet: docs.google.co... / zatar_wow / zatar_wow
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@Zatar2 жыл бұрын
Corrections / Changes to the Sheet: KT Sword is not considered "bis" for ret. It is neck and neck with Lionheart Executioner, and many consider the BS sword slightly better. KT Sword would be Arms Prio due to this. Seal of Danzalar is bis for Warlock in arena due to the armor on the ring. Vashj belt - Even if your tanks are not having any trouble with threat, still would be more valuable on a prot warrior or feral than a dps warrior or rogue.
@bruxis2 жыл бұрын
Just curious, why the 180 on Belt of 100 Deaths for tank prio?
@Zatar2 жыл бұрын
In the video I said it’s best for tanks but your tanks might not need it for threat And it can go to a DPS. I just moved it above warrior DPS and rogue DPS even if you’re not having throat issues because those classes don’t benefit from the belt nearly as much as the other DPS classes, And tank gear sets can be awkward without the belt, Warrior can have too much defense or resilience not enough threat items without the belt and Bear off tank the belt is still insane as a DPS.
@Happyduderawr2 жыл бұрын
@@Zatar I asked the guy who makes the druid bis lists on wowhead, he thinks it is clearly best for prot warrior, but he still thinks it should be rolled on by anyone where its bis until sunwell, and they have good raid attendence/performance. Too much drama otherwise as there's still a lot of debate over who its best for, but i agree with him that its best on a prot warrior. (Im a feral tank). I agree with all your corrections, nice list. I personally really want it to vastly reduce the chance of chain parry haste or crushing/parry haste combos. Druids are the most vulnerable to rng as tanks, given that we get crushed (a lot). I havn't really seen anyone crunch the numbers on this though.
@Zatar2 жыл бұрын
I Tank on a 70 druid as well, and getting your first mangle parried or dodged is a nightmare
@duras65212 жыл бұрын
Amazing vid man!
@lawless78592 жыл бұрын
First rule - give it to the ppl that show up for the raids over ppl that show up whenever.
@Stevswearftw2 жыл бұрын
based on availability across all raids
@_faythene2 жыл бұрын
For the few boomkins out there, if you are spell hit heavy, going for the Vevlet Boots of the Guardian over Boots of Blasting breaks you from having to retain tailoring in this phase once you remove Spellfire :)
@ferencdojcsak85762 жыл бұрын
"Let's face it, hunters are not melee weaving" - shrudding in Sonic Spear over here
@SwedgeWoW2 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed the video Zatar! On the Prism of Inner Calm - seems like such a meme item at first but it's amazing for Ret in the right circumstances. IIRC it applies 150 threat reduction to melee, which is nice for most melee classes but not enough to offset losing a dps trinket. It also does 1000 threat reduction on spells, and for most classes which are critting for around the 10k mark on their big spells, it's a small fractional reduction in threat. But... a paladin's seals are treated as spells, and for a twisting ret there are more of those seals proccing per swing - 3 seals with a windfury attack + twist, that combined critting do around 7k damage with decent P2 gear. So you're getting 7k brought down to 4k, which is great reduction. With the Devastation 2h axe on Kael you might find yourself threat-capped, especially early on as your tanks are gearing. This can let you wail on him endlessly.
@3fast5you2 жыл бұрын
Solarian's Sapphire is not a meme item. You can equip it and battle shout out of combat, then swap in your normal trinket. You will snapshot the AP. You an do this with T2 set bonus aswell. Just set up a macro and use it out of combat for a total of 100 (125 with commanding presence) attack power bonus to your entire group for 3 minutes (with booming voice)
@FAMILYFRIENDLYBRAZILIAN2 жыл бұрын
You actually did it you madman, you went over the entire thing again
@dakidnick9872 жыл бұрын
thanks for all the content zat, your a legend.
@Zatar2 жыл бұрын
fair points, included more survival info in my newer video (mainly to fix issue of not hovering over the items)
@stinger15au2 жыл бұрын
Nice vid, usually these vids have certain classes/specs completely wrong, but I agree with everything pretty much bang on.
@jvill92612 жыл бұрын
You rock man. Huge when content creators respond to feedback, and to go back and re-record the whole thing really shows your dedication to the channel. Thanks!
@AngelsCozyTours2 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed the video, appreciate the lack of bias, thanks for making :D
@redrav42332 жыл бұрын
The hydross defense trinket is amazing in resist sets. 42 defense is hige getting to defense cap while your pushing for resist cap.
@Wasylek13372 жыл бұрын
Funny thing that this trinket is only usable vs hydross itself xD
@evanthompson33382 жыл бұрын
Great list man loved the coverage. With a lot more guilds trying to do loot council and priorities loved going through this bit by bit. Awesome and thanks for your time.
@popamihnea66952 жыл бұрын
Nice video. The DPS ring insight between Ring of LEth and Band of Ranger was really nice to hear and made a lot of sense and will really help with ring distribution at least.
@Bigbadmelv2 жыл бұрын
Highest quality loot prio on youtube. Well done. Thx for correcting the prot pally helm info!
@baldheadned12 жыл бұрын
Engi helm for Prot pally is not as good as T4. Engi for pally is also less good for the trinket since they could use a JC trinket for stam and threat or straight avoidance
@altairian82 жыл бұрын
@@baldheadned1 Engi helm is extremely good for prot pally. It enables you to be greedier in other slots while staying very tanky. If you're only worried about raw spellpower then T5 helm is better, but the engi helm is an incredible option to have at your disposal.
@Ray_Santamaria2 жыл бұрын
@@altairian8 badge helm is more overall avoidance, engi googles are good if you want more stam but I wouldn’t say that it’s a must have.
@altairian82 жыл бұрын
@@Ray_Santamaria Avoidance is kind of a niche stat for a prot pally. Dodging and parrying actively reduces your threat output. In a situation where you're trying to save healer mana and your threat doesn't matter sure, wear avoidance. But most situations you have heals incoming whether you take the hit or not, so it's better to block more and avoid less. Having a larger health pool gives you more safety from damage spikes than avoidance does as well.
@Ray_Santamaria2 жыл бұрын
@@altairian8 avoidance is a niche stat? kekW
@lockekappa5002 жыл бұрын
"Blackfathom Warbands is more a pally item because of the lack of MP5" Warbands set bonus: Am I a joke to you?!
@cecagna2 жыл бұрын
Can't believe you did it again. I watched the first one and didn't have any problems with it, but the second attempt has earned a sub from me. Way to go, Zatar
@Crix_Gaming2 жыл бұрын
Good video Brother.
@zephenite66282 жыл бұрын
Quick critque, but the added stats + SP on the Fang is far superior for a prot pally than the added DPS on the Gruul sword.
@HippioKass2 жыл бұрын
The warrior trinket is actually pretty solid, you can equip it and shout before the fight and switch back to a good trink. Modest but may as well rather than DEing
@ramza6752 жыл бұрын
Appreciate the redo of the video.
@klemensuhlmann66032 жыл бұрын
Thank you for redoing the video. You didn't distinguished between MS Warrior and Fury Warrior. Is that, because you consider only MS or only Fury as the viable spec? ;-)
@tukangngopi78152 жыл бұрын
this would help my guildies alot about their loot system,great content zatar
@MrTouchem2 жыл бұрын
You kept talking about one-hundred deaths for tanks as a threat belt, that's not why expertise is such a high priority stat. It's because you not only have lower chance for parry/dodge, but it also lowers parry-hastes. I would 100% prio this to your druid tank first, then w/e dps it benefits most after that. The mitigation benefit outweighs any dps gain when you first get into hyjal/bt prog.
@BringerOfBloood2 жыл бұрын
Warlocks want seal of danzalar for pvp btw. and it's considered very good.
@krammit892 жыл бұрын
I play a ret paladin and our guild has seen only one belt drop and it went to the tank (which I was okay with). Our luck has been so bad this phase with loot.
@Dsbeeman882 жыл бұрын
i was one of the people who commented on the last one. Thank you for actually doing it again great content man.
@johanlahti842 жыл бұрын
I argue expertise is more worth for a feral tank than a feral cat. Capping a single dps feral over capping all dps because the druid tank parry dodge dodge on pull is obvious. And the druid should go for boost bracers and neck from pvp. Deftness or searing for gloves, 4set T5 and 100d for belt. Maybe not the first belt but for sure the second. Badge of tenacity and either a mit or threat option for second trinket. Shapeshifters and mit ring if needed. Bosses can't parry with their chutbeeks = less impactful for a kitty. But ofc it is great for a kitty too considering hit drop. Just better for tanking. I might be wrong, but that is how I think about it.
@reofi2 жыл бұрын
Playing as feral tank, can't get enough expertise atm Loathe the dodge parry opener
@Olihetkonijntje2 жыл бұрын
When you are that one Prot Paladin Blacksmith, KEKW
@3fast5you2 жыл бұрын
Warboots of Obliteration is a 4 strength, 0,2% crit upgrade from Ironstriders of Urgency. Give to those who doesn't have Ironstriders.
@theboo4u2 жыл бұрын
How does latrose compare to fang of Vashj. I've seen a few Sims, but none of them actually show the numbers and just say swords are better than daggers. I'm curious if the dagger in oh is more consistant damage as it 30 dps higher than getting sword procs based on rng.
@Zatar2 жыл бұрын
Dagger is too slow. You lose a bunch of energy from combat potency.
@theboo4u2 жыл бұрын
@@Zatar awesome, didn't want to gimp myself, thanks man!
@Mazxlol2 жыл бұрын
BRO you are insane! good job man. respect!
@3fast5you2 жыл бұрын
Fury warrior 4 set tier 5 with Bloodsea Brigand Vest sims higher than the off set pieces. Besides, it's nice to be plate if you can.
@MMA-mh9uv2 жыл бұрын
awesome, thanks for re-recording.
@Crase19862 жыл бұрын
Putting those shoulders in priority for enhance over ret is questionable. Ret needs every point of expertise they can get to reach the cap asap. When they have a 3.6 - 3.8 swing timer, can get up to 4 - 5 hits per swing, and every one of those hits is on the avoidance table, expertise has a bigger impact than a fast attacking dual wielder.
@Zatar2 жыл бұрын
I agree, but ret has prio over enh on the belt, and the shoulders only have 10 expertise. Ret also can use the plate off-set shoulders.
@Crase19862 жыл бұрын
@@Zatar Ret having a plate alternative isn't relevant. Enhance can have mail alternatives. And it isn't "only" expertise if Ret needs every point it can get.
@jebus7x72 жыл бұрын
@@Crase1986 calm down ret pally seal twisting falls off later
@Zatar2 жыл бұрын
The plate shoulders are much better relative to the mail shoulders. The main reason I lean towards shoulders to Shaman, is because the belt is such a big deal, but in fairness enhancement do have a lot of items they get, and pallies are lower on tier. Maybe it wouldn’t be too much to have them first on both.
@Zemestra2 жыл бұрын
Swing timer is irrelevant to the ret expertise argument, the only valid point is that we just roll expertise on every ability and seal swing we do. Its our biggest dps stat upgrade because of this.
@marktheshark19182 жыл бұрын
So fun fact, EleShams don’t need Sea-Witch Robes at all. In T5 EleSham reaches hitcap incredibly easily. Belt of Blasting, T5 Legs, & Sha’tar Rep Helm enchant puts EleShams at EXACTLY hit cap. EleShams never need Sea-Witch. Go for Hateful Echoes until you can get ahold of T5 chest
@Zatar2 жыл бұрын
After lock, nobody really needs the chest. Some might prefer sea-witch for ele/arcane even ignoring the hit, but it’s minimal.
@christophscholz23552 жыл бұрын
If you have one mage staying fire spec, because you are a casual guild that cannot provide the needed support for (more than one) arcane mage, you should squeeze him after WLs but prior to Ele Sham
@utubefordan2 жыл бұрын
Great video. Only comment, as a prot pally main, would be the helm. Personally even as an engineer I would prefer tier helm do to the spell power. Overall though great info!
@askinnakklevaar982 жыл бұрын
“Unfortunately very ugly” man that hit my soul it looks sooooooo bad
@hafi81212 жыл бұрын
i think shoulder pads should go ret first since they hold it in p3 while shaman replace their shoulders with haste ones
@bennymaybe67722 жыл бұрын
Yo @Zatar will there be a Video like this for p3 aswell?
@Zatar2 жыл бұрын
Yes
@Botlivesmatter002 жыл бұрын
Supposedly Lionheart is still better for ret this phase than the kaelthas one because of the strength proc
@saltynutshurt2 жыл бұрын
Depends on how lucky you are
@Zatar2 жыл бұрын
I hear they are very close
@snakebebop2 жыл бұрын
They are close but lionheart will always be better by a bit with good RNG and assuming you're always swinging at the boss. But because Kael's 2H sword's damage doesn't rely on RNG, it's damage will be more consistent therefore a safer option.
@Botlivesmatter002 жыл бұрын
I didnt see Netherbane as being Unique would it not be good to get two as a enhance?
@Zatar2 жыл бұрын
Specifically for orc that are not blacksmithing. Can still be good for other situations but not bis otherwise.
@SPCxRecon2 жыл бұрын
what are the best poison for main hand and offhand pve for max dmg
@veganwaffle2 жыл бұрын
God damn this is the stuff I wish I had time for but I don’t. Had to quit tbc for work. I playing fighting games now.
@UkrGaz2 жыл бұрын
I play in a loot council guild that rolls off verdant sphere, not happy about that 😂
@AmineZidane912 жыл бұрын
Any plans on doing Tier6 video soon brother?
@Zatar2 жыл бұрын
Yes
@VigleikSh4q2 жыл бұрын
You got it the opposite way, the shoulders are only BiS if you have the gloves or any other item that put em over that treshold(for warriors).
@Zatar2 жыл бұрын
Depends which sim you look at, but compares to p1 gear we probably can both agree that the shoulders are the item you would equip immediately.
@MRkriegs2 жыл бұрын
Defense trinket is a good trinket 4Head
@THELEIFMEISTER2 жыл бұрын
great video! wish it had time stamps or sections for bosses/types of armor though
@202adr2 жыл бұрын
Boomkins want to swap tier chest(for vestments) or tier shoulders(for illidari shoulderpads or mantle of elven kings) or tier legs(for spellstrike) not gloves..... as for nexus key shammies and boomkin should be prio cause there is no other upgrade for them cause they cant equip swords while mages can.
@memes420blaze2 жыл бұрын
for shammies especialy this is a minor upgrade, they shouldnt even care. For mages its massive
@202adr2 жыл бұрын
@@memes420blaze 50 + crit rating is not a minor upgrade for ele shammies
@memes420blaze2 жыл бұрын
@@202adr prince dagger+badge shield give like 40+
@202adr2 жыл бұрын
@@memes420blaze 23 from shield and 18 from mindblade dagger cause there are no dagger upgrades in phase 2 while you get 51 from nexus staff, then you get more crit from intellect which you get 52 of off staff while you only get 30 from main hand off hand combo and the shield im talking about is the bis not the bagde one which gives 21 crit rating and 17 int which also with mindblade pales in comparison to the nexus staff
@memes420blaze2 жыл бұрын
@@202adr i never said its not an upgraded, i said its only 10 rating. and if we mentioning intellect as an upgrade stat, its a million times better on arcane mage
@testrider72 жыл бұрын
Resto shaman here; RE Blackfathom Wrists, think you might be falling into the common pitfall of overrating MP5. Shaman discord rates 1 point of Mp5 as being worth a paltry 2 healing power, the stat is very poorly budgeted as a whole unfortunately. Also not sure I understand why you’re saying these mail wrists are a bigger upgrade compared to previous BiS for holy pallies, seeing how holy pallies strictly have better gearing options than resto shamans, being able to equip plate. TLDR: those wrists should be equal prio for both classes
@Zatar2 жыл бұрын
Wind hawk is pretty popular for resto Shaman, and is far less common for paladins. That is a big reason why the wrists would make more sense to go to the paladin. In regards to MP5, I am also following the guideline of one MP5 being worth 2 healing
@Zatar2 жыл бұрын
To be clear I don’t mean that Winhawk are better, but they are almost as good.
@jfeeezy84182 жыл бұрын
good shit dude, u redeemed urself!!
@lillenisy36222 жыл бұрын
Hey are you making a list like this for phase 3 aswell ?
@Zatar2 жыл бұрын
Yes
@lillenisy36222 жыл бұрын
@@Zatar thanks much apriciated 👌👌👌👍👍👍
@joe-hd3uv2 жыл бұрын
Didn't see you cover this and just wanted to make things a little bit more confusing regarding the trash drop recipes. The recipe for the boots is BoE and the boots that you craft from it are BoP, while the recipe for the belts is BoP and the belts that you craft from it are BoE.
@shanerGT2 жыл бұрын
You got a link to that google doc ??
@SpiralstaticXX2 жыл бұрын
For Non BS orc enhancement shamans, double Netherbane is bis for this phase.
@Betcoc2 жыл бұрын
Yes
@asdasdaasdada97202 жыл бұрын
why do you think solarians sapphire is a meme item? i thought the 70 ap affects all partymembers, isnt 70ap on 5 people stronger than any trinket? (if all 5 can benefit)
@Zatar2 жыл бұрын
Trinkets are really powerful, So it’s a big DPS loss for an individual to run that trinket. In theory, it would make the most sense for a tank to use it because the stamina is really good, but they don’t have improved battle shout. So while it can be strong for a warrior that wants to support the group, have you ever known a DPS warrior that wanted to do that? Some people suggest trying to get your arms to do it. That could work out. I would probably give it to your warrior with the worst trinket.
@senpaiasmr38892 жыл бұрын
the Ninja class is the best
@unworthychong60602 жыл бұрын
U redid it u mad lad
@saabdashcamsweden44242 жыл бұрын
Feel like Zatar's mostly leaning towards knowledge of melee classes/specs.
@duras65212 жыл бұрын
As a caster lootcouncil i can say his knowledge of caster loot is also very very strong!
@Crase19862 жыл бұрын
Actually, Ret Paladins want the LHE more than the Twinblade. Its a slightly higher dps weapon, but the Twinblade is a very close second.
@mea_99532 жыл бұрын
Great video
@RogunK2 жыл бұрын
My guild uses cepgp for loot so I don't want to go wasting a bunch of my points on minor upgrades. I'm only going to use my points on the 2 or maybe 3 items at the top of my bis list.
@omglimepie2 жыл бұрын
Be careful, cepgp systems come with a weekly or biweekly point decay to avoid point holding. Waiting for items could end up putting you in a situation where you actually could have had an item you wanted but didn't get because you wanted to wait.
@RogunK2 жыл бұрын
@@omglimepie I normally am near the top of the list on points. Its what got me dst on my warrior.
@mtbalandin95942 жыл бұрын
Great video but you seem to have forgotten one important thing which makes me think you don’t have feral tank in your raid. When a bear is not tanking then he’s in cat form doing dps. Pretty much the message I got from your video is to give it to anyone apart from the cat. Some encounters require only one tank and because a warrior/paladin can only do tank or dps and a feral can do both. By leaving the feral last in dps prio you are potentially having a dps drop in that encounter.
@Zatar2 жыл бұрын
Were you talking about a specific item? Keep in mind feral gets tier very fast and it’s best for DPS and tank.
@mtbalandin95942 жыл бұрын
@@Zatar I’m talking in general. That the bear Druid gets its tier 5 fast goes without saying and that the feral bear/cat doesn’t get first choice in dps items is also a given. So bis dps items we will never get so what is the alternative. I play a Druid tank but struggle to find alternative dps items that won’t impact the dpslers in the raid. You speak of feral bear or feral cat as if some one would get in a raid just by playing cat but that’s not the case mostly. Mostly the feral plays bear 95% of the time and cat the rest but struggles to get dps gear because they are forever passing in favor of the dpslers. I mean look at wowhead/icyveins? It says for Druid tank dst is bis but like we would ever get it? Hopefully you can help the true ferals out there in finding alternative dps gear that won’t impact their raid but would also help them do decent dps. If you could do a video about that it would be great 👍
@Sucksahs1232 жыл бұрын
@@mtbalandin9594 but it makes sense though since you're not dpsing 100% of the time, a true dps will be DPSing 100% of the time so they will use the dps items more. AND tier pieces are bis for both bear and cat form, so even for dps you're getting a lot of pieces prio'd
@mtbalandin95942 жыл бұрын
@@Sucksahs123 of course but if your doing a guide on who gets what then include everyone and not just the meta!
@SuperYxskaft2 жыл бұрын
@@mtbalandin9594 Bit its a loot prio guide, not a guide on what items are bis for classes.
@sunchung49572 жыл бұрын
Solarian trinket for warrior is pvp prio u would use it before arena start and swap.
@christophscholz23552 жыл бұрын
Wrong, depending on your melee situation in the raid. If you have a physical group like (enhance, MS, fury, rogue, ret or survival) you want the MS to play it as the group buff is a bigger raid dps increase as an other trinket buffs the MS himself. Always PvE before PvP from a raid lead PoV.
@bombchu93082 жыл бұрын
@@christophscholz2355 I think you can hot swap the Solarian trinket so it still benefits the grp for the duration of the battle shout
@gamewinner15922 жыл бұрын
you mention the fact that a warrior wouldn't be prio'd on leather as they can use plate and want to be tankier, yet they shouldn't be given any tier? what do you give to warriors then?
@Zatar2 жыл бұрын
I mentioned that looking at the chest, warrior has more chest options. I then followed that up by saying it might feel more fair to give it to Warriors anyway because they are not getting tier.
@majorbloodlol2 жыл бұрын
to say seal of danzalar isn't very good for pvp is wrong. it's bis for warlock in arena
@frankl8272 жыл бұрын
Great job
@destram19892 жыл бұрын
can use pendant of the lost ages to reduce silence on azgalor in hyjal - maybe not a complete waste in pve
@Zatar2 жыл бұрын
If nobody wants I guess, but too good to pass over pvpers I feel.
@mihcaoja12 жыл бұрын
Hey skarm, guys here!
@snorresnorre1232 жыл бұрын
here I am, Rocking ranger general ring and lethality ring on my enhancement ((:
@rrsarmiento2 жыл бұрын
You think you dont but you do
@SwarmAM2 жыл бұрын
Please make one for p3
@sebbeeriksson71422 жыл бұрын
Enjoy the video!
@Juggs_WoW2 жыл бұрын
Curious why you say warrior and rogue benefit from expertise the least when those are the two that have resource generation tied to autos.
@Zatar2 жыл бұрын
Rogue has a talent that reduces dodges on finishers and they get a refund on energy if their abilities miss. Dps Warriors I don’t have a great explanation other than sim / spreadsheet results.
@anasameer2 жыл бұрын
@@Zatar There should be a case to be made for rogues that are going to apply Imp EA. Having expertise helps them get the imp EA up faster usually. That is why most top rogues say that Latros is even better than S2 OH Sword for boss encounters
@gnarrlly2 жыл бұрын
are you gonna check out SoM?
@Zatar2 жыл бұрын
Yes and making som content
@gnarrlly2 жыл бұрын
@@Zatar dopeeee
@smivy2 жыл бұрын
Seal of danzalar is BiS for S2 SL locks in arena. I’d be upset if I wasn’t considered for it.
@christophscholz23552 жыл бұрын
As a raidlead you prio your prot pallys, the ring is insane for them. PvPers are second prio.
@_Tiki_2 жыл бұрын
Hunter swap ranger generals chest then add beastlord legs to keep 4pc
@cameronweiss14242 жыл бұрын
I get the warrior/priest/Druid token is contested and maybe furies aren’t top prio but 4 pc t5 is bis dps wise for fury according to sims and its huge for survivability compared to the paper offset pieces which is extremely important for fury, so they def shouldn’t be completely neglected on this. Fury can easily top overall in ssc and you want your fury to survive. Any fury who doesn’t want 4 pc t5 has no idea what they’re doing
@Zatar2 жыл бұрын
Quote from wowhead bis article which the warrior discord seems happy with: "Although offpieces result in very slightly higher DPS, 4pc T5 is only a little bit behind, while being far easier to obtain and providing you with more suvivability" Keep in mind that there are offset legs, chest, and shoulders that are plate that nobody except ret / dps warriors want. Without giving warrior tier (besides helmet) they can still have a max dps leather set and a plate set that does slightly less damage and is tankier. It is hard to justify why a fury should be prioritized over other classes when they have access to both those options without tier (besides helmet). Obviously they would still get their tier before it goes off-spec.
@cameronweiss14242 жыл бұрын
@@Zatar I just don’t understand where this minsinformation is coming from with the warrior tier gear, like why is wowhead saying that? If you use an actual sim 4 pieces of t5 is just more dps and more survivability. Not trying to be aggro just annoying that ppl in the warrior community spout this nonsense with no basis in math or reality. It’s just “durrrrr expertise is gewdddd durrrrr you need expertise durrrrr”. And again, it’s not on you it’s on the warrior community
@Lazydino592 жыл бұрын
Or just be like my guild and don't even bring a fury warrior :P
@cameronweiss14242 жыл бұрын
@@Lazydino59 Troooooo
@leblancrose91872 жыл бұрын
@@cameronweiss1424 sims significantly better to have expertise than 4piece for me, what settings are you using?
@iftyhargil83592 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure that twinblade is actually slightly more damage than the Al'ar fists for hunters, or at least VERY close. Yes, adamantite weight stones included.
@JetcannonM2 жыл бұрын
very cool
@victorfranco91722 жыл бұрын
I'm a hunter and melee weave xd but I wont take the belt ofc
@Jale.mp32 жыл бұрын
Ret paladin 6% set has t5 leggings as bis?
@Zatar2 жыл бұрын
Wow head and discord lists don’t. T5 legs are consistently 3-4th bis.
@samgomersall81082 жыл бұрын
We getting a T6 one soon?
@Zatar2 жыл бұрын
Waiting on more bis lists to come out. Will be a new video
@zomfgwtfbbq12 жыл бұрын
Is dual wielding even a thing in tbc for prot warriors?
@gramlol2 жыл бұрын
In raid, very rarely. The only boss you can/should in P2 is Void Reaver, since it is a constant threat battle. Outside of that it’s not worth, you’ll die immediately
@zomfgwtfbbq12 жыл бұрын
@@gramlol thanks for the reply.
@Zatar2 жыл бұрын
Link to sheet: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Q7GaDuWKYQ0ROmcv5CseRlDCD82e3gl52PoNuMF2If4/edit?usp=sharing
@sitnud2 жыл бұрын
sunstrider cloak is bis for arcane mages too
@Zatar2 жыл бұрын
And the info I have seen, the group cloak it’s just as good, Made it worse a very minor increase, they would be behind other classes
@kaiherzig42812 жыл бұрын
As enhancer shaman I feel offended 😬
@Osiniin2 жыл бұрын
Any chance you would share that spread sheet?
@Zatar2 жыл бұрын
Check description
@Osiniin2 жыл бұрын
@@Zatar I actually did look for it first, couldn't see it, but I didn't click on 'show more' for the info to expand and see it LOL. My bad, thanks heaps matey!
@pandamaec2 жыл бұрын
IS THERE A TLDR??????????????
@Juggs_WoW2 жыл бұрын
One thing I noticed you missed/didn't really mention is arms wars have the option to run 4 piece T5 with Blacksmith crafted Chest when they get KT sword. This would make T5 4 piece set have them ranked a bit higher.
@Zatar2 жыл бұрын
They could be ranked a bit higher, but the wowhead guide states that the leather gear is higher Dps. I understand the value in the survivability, but there are some offset plate items as well. All in all compared to some classes that can’t go with other options, arms just aren’t highest on the pecking order.
@Bjerr2 жыл бұрын
How come crafted mace isn't mentioned for enhancment shaman?
@Zatar2 жыл бұрын
Not bis according to Shaman discord.
@fatsephy2 жыл бұрын
Because it's 4th best for an Orc (1.19% behind Wicked Edge) and 3rd best for non-Orc (0.67% behind Talon).
@bombchu93082 жыл бұрын
@@Zatar not bis for alliance draenei either?
@Wasylek13372 жыл бұрын
@@Zatar theres literally No better mainhands till like SWP for enh xD?
@grift982 жыл бұрын
Dragonstrike is only BiS for Alli Enh sham IF you don't have DST. If you have DST then it's better to get talon
@badwolfxd35932 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video, time stamps would have been great tho
@TheAkenarn2 жыл бұрын
everyone say enhance shamans should go for 4 piece t5 but as thindividuel i would go for that. dont need small 5% more on flurry. if it had been 10% i would be more likely but not for 5%
@th3darkblitz2 жыл бұрын
Well " warlocks should want this " most warlocks i see play fire to work together with a firemage and will take a minor hit on Dps on alar playing with less optimised shadowgear to play fire the rest of the time -shrugs-
@Zatar2 жыл бұрын
In the next phase, mages go arcane.
@Jenartik2 жыл бұрын
3 months in and half of this shit hasnt dropped yet
@johnwick93672 жыл бұрын
Ppl like you make me pug raid every week for fair loot rolls
@chriscalhoun6612 жыл бұрын
Ur joking buddy
@johnwick93672 жыл бұрын
@@chriscalhoun661 why? U wanna loot council me also? 🤣🤣
@peterzwegert64392 жыл бұрын
Add Verdant Sphere u forgot prot warr (in ur sheet)
@Zatar2 жыл бұрын
I didn’t add them, because they should never get it
@kaze37662 жыл бұрын
my man explaining shit for 2 hour .
@matthewharrington4202 жыл бұрын
im in a dkp guild so good luck me for getting rogue tier