TCL QM8 (QM851G) vs Hisense U8N - Which Should You Choose?

[@RTINGSdotcom]

We were made aware that there is a potential firmware update for the TCL QM8 that aims to improve its PQ EOTF tracking, but we haven't seen it yet. We will add a new pinned comment with an update if there is a significant change after the new update!

[@AKATTP]

What picture mode are these in? The hisense appears to have much better color and depth to me but not sure if its just because of the picture mode you used.

[@alonzonunez5037]

Let’s say the pq eotf gets on track is that one firmware update going to put the tcl ahead or would the Hisense still be the better tv ? Im assuming the brightness will go down to be more accurate but I don’t know if this will increase the native contrast or how that’s possible

[@444chroma]

my preference is for the hisense again. I've been impressed with the value they offer ever since U8H

[@diggergeensen860]

The colours on the Hisense appear better, as well as details in the brights.

[@JamesRussoMillas]

Like you guys said, can't go wrong with either. Got my U8N back in May before the TCL was out.

[@shanew7361]

Are there any issues thus far? Debating between the TCL or Hisense never owned either brand. Have only had LG OLED's, and the burn in was bad, I'm done with OLED's.

[@JamesRussoMillas]

@@shanew7361 none at all!

[@JamesRussoMillas]

@@shanew7361 no issues at all! But of course that doesn't mean no one has issues with them.

[@Chief_Of_Sinners]

​@@shanew7361what is the last LG OLED model you've owned?

[@adleneboulebtateche156]

Thank you Abby. I've been waiting for this comparison for months now.

[@RTINGSdotcom]

Hope it was helpful!

[@jimreeves1]

Great comparison Abby! Thanks for posting it! I already bought the 75 inch U7N (with less brightness and contrast) and it's fantastic! Still had to lower brightness for my taste for a average bright room. Guess I'm not a nit nut like so many...

[@RTINGSdotcom]

Thank you! At the end of the day, it's only you that needs to be happy with the purchase 😄

[@futureaceone3971]

In all the side by side shots of the two TVs the detail and color depth is better on the Hisense U8N. Do these side by side images truly reflect the picture quality of the TVs? Or are the settings different (ie. Hisense in Filmaker while TCL is in Eco mode? Or is it that your camera can't accurately show the two TV images together. Just by looking at your video the Hisense appears to have a much better picture.

[@the_gr8_brandino]

I was debating between these two in July. I ended up with the 65" TCL cause it was on sale at Best Buy for $1399. Two weeks later, they had it for $999. Fortunately, I was in the price match window. So I feel like I got that TV for a steal.

[@asafblasbergvideographer]

Hi Abby! Panasonic released OLED models in the US market. Any chance you might be able to review them ?

[@RTINGSdotcom]

We have already placed a pre-order for all 3 new Panasonic TVs, looking forward to reviewing them as soon as they come in! 😄

[@EhNothing]

I wondered this same thing, but for their mini LEDs. Great to hear they're getting reviewed!

[@Davidcharrod]

My U8N 65 is beautiful. A couple glitches in menu speed occasionally. But the picture is stellar. The peak brightness is crazy and shocking at first. I dialed it back a bit

[@gangs0846]

Blacks are gray in a dark room or not? How is dirty screen effect?

[@N3rd_Rush]

Drops in picture quality in game mode?

[@xwing8675]

I'm not sure if it's just my screen or KZbin, but the U8N color looks richer and better. I doubt that I'd be able to tell if they weren't next to each other.

[@mickey-neo]

if you are on a va panel careful to be exactly in the middle to compare. juste a bit off axis and youlose a lot of color (and contrast)

[@Yoga_Tv_buying]

@@mickey-neonot true . I have 2 U8 I ain’t tilt all day from table I don’t have issue .

[@Yoga_Tv_buying]

@@mickey-neops my tv 📺 Stand has wheels 🛞. I could tilt my tv towards me , most of time I sit at tilt with ISsue it’s not because of color , but Weird Angle 📐 ! If u Ever Have Issue with Tilt angle , u know u most likely won’t SIT at that angle 📐 to watch anyway . 😊 . Like I don’t like sitting at side of Theater 🎭 to watch movie . I rather sit at mid back .

[@90AlmostFamous]

Yup the purple flower , T CL whites looks washed out there

[@blane237]

Hisense might just have more color in the out of the box mode. But the QM8 is known to display colors better than the U8N. Especially Blue and Orange where Hisense struggles.

[@OTNaugrim]

Hisense and TCLs refusal to unify their global lineups and ranges and naming schemes ist just horribly anti consumer....Europeans have been getting shafted for years by them, with similarish model names despite being absolutely worse in every way than their NA counterparts....less dimming zones, worse panels..... Really bad :/

[@jaimepontes3236]

I noticed that now, that I'm thinking to buy a "qm8". Tvs have several diferent names within europe, it's almost impossible to distinguish wich is wich. Most of the times, I can't even tell what model year they are. 😢

[@sirgurky]

I commented on a FOMO video about that! They are great TCL/Hisesne but as a UK shoppers it's hard to find a "Right model" review at the moment.

[@nem3th]

In europe TCL QM8 / QM851G isnst even avaliable at all, even on their global webpage QM8 isnt even listed. Instead they pushing C855 which is totally different model and in size 65 comes with 1344 dimming zones compared to 65QM851G. 2880 local dimming zones. Im looking to get QM851G, model but still without any luck if you are living in europe.

[@amirshabani9886]

What about the Hisense U8NQ ??in Europe we habe the U8NQ,is it the same tv?For all i know it has its own OS called Vidaa instead of google tv!

[@steveknick1978]

Somebody goofed by putting the Hisense on the right when the displays are shown, but on the left when the scorecards are shown... Also @6:04, why does the Hisense appear to have the higher value for peak 10% window (3691 vs 3467), but lower review score for the category overall?

[@AaronFigFront]

Because weights in math… she also said it in the video…

[@HayabusaPaul]

I am very happy with my U8N.

[@ChetPeterman-oi4dx]

I really would like a 75" and I would have liked a Hisense because I love contrast! Why in the world did they use a different panel on their 75 inchers? Great comparison video Abby, really appreciate it! Between the TCL and Hisense which 75" performs better due to the different panel? Please! Thanks again!!

[@antonlessmeister3947]

Everything I ready is that the ADS panel gives a better off axis picture than the VA

[@Yoga_Tv_buying]

The Current TV : Contrast measuring method is Dated, not just rings, the OVER ALL in INdustry. Color volume of YELLOW---Well known in Decades, the HARDEST color to produce in ANY TV (thats why WOLED , SONY LED etc always look so Blue casted n Pestle. They rely using Hollywood so called Reference MOnitor blue tinted thing to CAST its pristege, in FACT in HUMAN biology 🧬 program, any professor will tell u --U HAVE 2 X yes 🙌 2X WARM color sensor than cool tone in EACH eye BALL! If TV is too COOL (usually SONY /LG WOLED , even Samsung S90C S90D can not escape it ) u lose a LOT of information that --EYEs capture, then send the INFO to brain 🧠 for Image processing to make things OUT of 3D at a GUESS. What u see is WHAT YOUR BAIN GUESS !!!😮 A black coat is usually grey, a black tire is grey. A white wall is usually beige or lighter medium shape of grey. A Black person is NOT black, An Asian person can ofer look much more pale than Tanned or pint toned White person…something something something. --this Rtings stats Yellow Luminance= A80L 405 cd/m² C4 425 cd/m² G4 546 cd/m² G3 546 cd/m² S95C 1,151 cd/m² HisenseUX 2,140 cd/m²-2023 Bravia9 2,427 cd/m²-2024 75U8N 1,810 cd/m²-🧀💛 U8N 1,776 cd/m² U8K 1,475 cd/m² A95L 882 cd/m² --“King🤴🏼of TV Shootout??😼👀 Bravia7 1,547 cd/m² X95L 1,154 cd/m²-2023 X90L 1,046 cd/m²-2023 S90D 1,133 cd/m² Yeah just trying to help . D LARGER d tv gets , COLOR volume MATTERs --- to dictate the Visual of 3D 😊or 2D . Not black . Because TV 📺 so LARGE, image is stretched OUT ! U need highlights n color volume to retain 3D visual. 😊 especially 77” n LARGER 😊😊😊 Mini LED / QD-OLED (flagship birght QD-OLED). Vs G3 G4 Panasonic (Bright OLED with MLA ) 🥮vs 🥐 🥬 vs 🧩 🪼 vs 🐋 🐦‍🔥 vs 🍉 🌺 vs 🌸 🔮vs 👩‍🎤

[@Yoga_Tv_buying]

D Current-- Contrast 😮testing method is -- developed 70 years ago by RCA - when they release CT-100 tv in 1951 or something . In Science 🧬 school 🏫 - those Bio Science professors tell u -- tv watching . Contrast is Seen by 1 Color against another Color . Not black to white . Day time all u see are by Color to Color . Black does -- NOT exist . Any black is -- GREY seen by brain 🧠n being processed compare to surrounding n Decided/Perveived as Black. As long as Surpunding is Bright the Dark grey is seen as black. But most visuals yr face , arms legs . 🦵 contrast is delivered by Color - Volume /Density under the Over All CASTED sun ☀️ That’s over Millions of years of evolution ! I can go on for 2 hours but the -- CONTRAST method using ONLY black/ white is Dated. Black n white then Color Density casted on brightness 🔅 to create the texture create -- contrast combine ! U won’t get this anywhere else . Most hardware tech ppl won’t notice the biology side ! TV 📺 on projects images like light source ! eyes just like Security Camera- capture /deliver Data ! Brain 🧠 does the processing . What we see is NOT up to what those - film Maker mode or Those “professional calibration “ tells us . :):)

[@Naldynator]

Great review on two great TVs. But, nothing on sound comparison? Was waiting to hear something on that.

[@tpop3723]

Waiting for the 75 U8N review.

[@RTINGSdotcom]

👀

[@budthecyborg4575]

6:03 I'm surprised they didn't compare the "real scene" brightness for this video, the TCL QM8 gets twice as bright in small highlights. The TCL QM8 gives the best contrast of any LCD in scenes with small bright points of light, which is especially relevant for gaming.

[@mickey-neo]

hhhmmmm...

[@michaelwyckoff7593]

Great review Abby. Based on your review I'd go for the TCL.😊

[@dedskin1]

Not much to pick about , im watching from LG OLED , they are the same . Hisense is a bit more bright , TCL has a bit better upscaling , but Hisense brightness is overkill and TCL updcaling wont work on PC and stuff , only built in apps ....so if you are like me on PC , they are the same . If you on the other hand watch cable , then TCL has a bit better upscaling . I would for a TV , chose used OLED then new Hisense or TCL .... Once you go OLED , even with their drawbacks , you dont go back .

[@michaelwyckoff7593]

@@dedskin1 I agree with you. I'm a OLED man too. 1 QD OLED and 1 WOLED.

[@George-r8b9j]

@@dedskin1 used oled? like burn in risk is not enough, you need to increase odds.

[@asafblasbergvideographer]

Great video! Since these TVs hit such high peak brightness levels, is it OK to turn off the dynamic tone mapping?

[@vicentecabrera696]

Abby I got the lg C4 and I think is amaizing tv just need some calibration…. I really apreciate your fantastic reviews thank you !!!😊

[@Yoga_Tv_buying]

Abby is the TV review princess 👸 ❤

[@Yoga_Tv_buying]

@@MeLucky-KuNGPaOhey I assume u re NOT -- CHAD or Stacy 🎉😂! There hot men/Women do NOT waste time , making fake KZbin profile , with someone’s pic . Then trash talking in that person’s video ! So who d hell r u ??? Stop 😮acting like Abby’s ex or the one jealous of her just cuz Downton Abby is Tv reviewer princess 👸🏼

[@mfahadb001]

In my region Asia (Pakistan) TCL didnt launched QM8. The latest model we have is TCL C855? Are they same?

[@ryanbaker7404]

The Hisense seems to at least show that the flowers are purple. They are almost completely blown out and white on the TCL (at least when viewing on KZbin).

[@paulcox2447]

It's almost always just the camera. Can't really expose for 2 TV's at one time so the camera clips the brighter one.

[@The80shilling]

I jut got the 98" TCL QM851G, have had it for around a week, and MAN it's utterly spectacular! I got it on sale at Bet Buy for $3,999, which is a major bargain compared to the competition. Compared to my old 79" LG, it's not in the same Universe, the TCL is so bright, the blacks are SO black, the colors are spectacular. I just think we've reached a point where we are splitting microscopic hairs to even see differences between all the top tier TV's. As many have said, It's hard to go wrong these days. I have it connected up via optical output to a pair of Devialet 108db Phantom I speakers, and the combination is beyond amazing!

[@nimblegoat]

Makes you wonder how good they will be in 5 years - Brighter and closer to OLED in control and blacks . OLED won't stand still either brighter. true RGB coming. 4000NIts must be next year for these 2 models . Full BT2020 is still years away, as I think even no $30000 reference monitor can do it. Some wavelengths are very hard to produce

[@Yoga_Tv_buying]

@@nimblegoat SHARP Already did that (Beyond the So Called Refernce MOnitor) Look up SHARP Aquos Quatrum. Qua means--4 in latin. That panel has 🟥🟩🟨🟦 4 yes--4 base light . can produce 99.99% color Human Eyes can see 🟪🟪🟨🟧🟥🟩🟫 🟦truely vibrant color without adding 1 shade of something n messing up d Rest of color pool. Reference Monitor is old school standard does NOT fit Young ppl Appitite. yeah most ppl are shocked that SHAP Leds 2010 alreay had able to do 3Trillion shades of color, the Bravia9 couild only do 1 T. Refernce monitor is just too blue🔹 doesnt fit most ppl’s appitite. I am going to buy the UX> n lets see in 5 years lol. ps talking about Wave Length. eyes are meant to Track down Warm Tones 🟡🟠🔴🟢🟤 More than 🟣🔵 because most animals , tree, flowers skin towns are wam tones. there 2 X color sensors for warmth than Cold. Reference Monitor has its 🔷cast. it self already Hinders capacity to watch tv shows day time (noat as bad at night) . Thats why SONY LG Demos Almost have TREE/ Blue ocean etc . because makes the GREEN/Blue look artificially --Denser color. when most natrual colors in out door sports/ Basketball NBA. all Warm tone (skin, floor , hair etc). i can bet money on it. LG C3 C4 tv demo are like that. Hisense bought SHARP tv 10 years ago. It has the capacity to produce the most elegant Natrual eyes that Suit our EYES needs , NOT to fill the Narrative of some Direct’s internet if that Direct hasn’t retired yet.

[@Roman0005]

Same here bro, I purchased it this same tv tcl 851g 98 inch size one, a couple weeks ago, for only 4000$ dollars from bestbuy and i am loving it 😍.

[@chryslerprowlerv8]

I have a 65 inch tcl 6series 2022 and I love It......I plan to upgrade to an 85 inch this upcoming black friday and It'll be between these 2 tv's....I'm torn but the final deciding factor will be price...but I'm leaning towards the TCL

[@mariusm5187]

Thank you very much for showing what the European model numbers would be! That is really helpful

[@tommyzorera]

Waiting for the "No thanks, I'll stick to the twice-as-expensive TV I don't actually own" comments to arrive in droves.

[@tails21c]

‘’Oled” tv

[@beerninja88]

thanks for the reviews! Looking forward to the LG QNED90 review this year since it's the first time they have ever used a VA panel

[@ricome169]

yes that is the one that i am interested in not so much these 2.

[@shanew7361]

My question is, which tv will have zero issues and actually last the longest? I've only owned LG OLED's, and tne burn in is unacceptable. Im done with OLED's.

[@Yoga_Tv_buying]

I will get U8N or U9N . The ADS-Pro screen 75” in U8N , n the ADS -Pro screen in U9N (85” 75) , they r like the dense color clear wet paint . So pleasant to look at . Coming from OLED most ppl get those panels cuz looks like QD-OLED , then it’s mini LED 😊

[@JuanMedina-wp3lu]

I just returned a lg c2 because of dead pixels under 350 hours. Now I’m looking at a tcl qm7.

[@Yoga_Tv_buying]

@@JuanMedina-wp3lu dude most ppl coming from Mid range LED or entry led . Even low end led like SONY X85K (Direct LeD) or a those U6 or Samsung QN70!.’going to Qm7 then it’s a good upgrade . Coming from OLED , u will only be able to do U8K/U8N Qm8 . Cuz d Eyes get used to certain Taste of visual . Get U8K or Qm8 since they r on clearance

[@JuanMedina-wp3lu]

@@Yoga_Tv_buyinggot a Sony Bravia 7 for the living room looks great. The TCL QM7 will be going in my room so it’ll be fine.

[@Yoga_Tv_buying]

@@JuanMedina-wp3lu oh great !!! :)

[@majorkursk780]

Nice job Abby!

[@studlygoorite5955]

Great stuff thanks. In Canada, the 100" U8N was/is as low as 6,400.00 Cdn right now and the TCL QM8 98" hasn't been on sale yet that I have seen, it's 7,999.00. Still think the U8N will go down to 5,900.00 Cdn by Xmas....so whoever is the lowest at Xmas gets my money :) If anyone sees better please post here thanks!!

[@Yoga_Tv_buying]

I can go to Chinese site to do some screen recoding with U8N n TCL 💯 to help others . I plan to do it anyway . Cuz I was looking for 100” u8N myself lol 😊

[@studlygoorite5955]

100" U8N down to 5,499.00 CDN everywhere, so I grabbed one 😎

[@Yoga_Tv_buying]

@@studlygoorite5955 Wow !!!!!!!!

[@ChristineLaGardsRottedFishFace]

I am legally blind with blurry vision. Good video if you can 👀 see. I guess watching your whole comparison video was a waste of time for me. You have a nice voice.

[@Biggeo7]

I have a the Hisense U8N and an LG OLED B7 with 10,000 hours on it that's perfect, no burn in. The problem is I have a very bright room with lots of floor to ceiling windows and the OLED was constantly getting washed out. It’s just too dark. The Hisense TV is much better than the OLED in this room and my OLED is much better now in my darker game room upstairs. Both these TV's are 65 inches and honestly the only thing I don't like about the Hisense is the viewing angle and Dolby Vision Gaming, which is turned off on my Xbox Series X. Other than that it's a superior TV for watching sports and it's now football season!

[@ozzzy3z946]

Why do you keep changing what side of the screen the TVs are displayed? Silly editing.

[@turbojobo]

What Mini LED brand Does not have issues vrr enabled? I dont remember my qn90a having any compared to both hisense and tcl, does sony or lg mini led tv have vrr issues at a certain framerate? Also why do hisense/tcl contrast enhancer does not brighten their screens as in samsungs?

[@Yoga_Tv_buying]

😂😂 d--ONLY thing 👄I have to Complaint about d Video is--Why have the left /right position of Hisense/TCL switch Back n Forth lol. 😂 I had to constantly look for Logo n (TV stand) to know which one is which . 1 sec, U8N to the left, Qm851 to the right. Next second U8N to d Rite, TCL to d Left. Then finally I allocated that, next second U8N went to left, tcl went right Back to Right 😂😂😂😂. Hide n seek🎉 :) I wonder if someone messed the video up when during Editing lol 😝 , u might want to Edit d Video n re upload. Most ppl dont know much about tv will have Very hard time knowing which one is which lol. 😅

[@induction7895]

She is the flagship reviewer of RTINGS.

[@konmalamatedes2964]

In my opinion, these are completely different categories of TVs. The TCLs prices in the USA is determined only by the policy of the company, which sells its TVs much cheaper in the USA than in Europe. TCL x955 has lower models such as the c955 and c 855, the last one is sold at the same price as the Hisense U8N model. Also the Hisense in Europe doesn't have Google tv but Vidaa.

[@Mjaybird]

I bought QM7 and loving it over my 6 series

[@turbojobo]

which 6 series did you have

[@Mjaybird]

@@turbojobo 2019 55 inch R625

[@Mjaybird]

@@MeLucky-KuNGPaO what do you mean junk? The QM7 is a great tv for the price

[@turbojobo]

@@MeLucky-KuNGPaO I have had s95b, qn90a, LG C3 and is not about money but how much of a good tv you can get now. Are the tv I mention better? yes but not by much.

[@Yoga_Tv_buying]

@@MeLucky-KuNGPaO u must have mental issues . U Called Abby some fat cow 🐄 Heifer ! In 2 other comments . Here u call ppl Poor . U need to get lost n stfu 🦑

[@ChesterMan-qd3xj]

You forgot to mention, based on your own chart, the 85” U8N has less dimming zones than even the 65”. Main reason I’m going for a QM8.

[@gokhan7482]

U8N won the Eisa award for “premium mini led tv”

[@JohnGettler]

Any chance for future videos you could stop switching which TV and chart is on the left and right? Through this video the TVs and charts flip back and forth. Pretty hard to keep straight in my head which is which.

[@Yoga_Tv_buying]

I know it’s Cat 👀n mouse 🐁 chase ! Rtings ! U drop the ball 🫵🏻🫵🏻😜

[@blane237]

How come when you do the HDR brightness comparison at 6:22 the scene with the purple flowers look the same, but when you have both TVs behind Abby showing the same image the Hisense looks to have the brightness turned down and the colors turned up? That makes me feel like there is a little bias going on for the U8N having had it's picture adjusted but not the QM8. While all the test results shown may be accurate, by having that stark difference between the images behind Abby, you're subconsciously pushing the idea that the U8N is a vastly superior picture.

[@Yoga_Tv_buying]

Hisense bought Sharp TV , Toshiba , Hitachi …. Bunch of them they just have d Best color formula n LED patterned. The Canadian Broadcasting Company (CBC - Federal News ) reported, that SHARP tv used to produce SONY 💯 LED at begining of 2010-2012 . Sony Bravia in 2010-2012 all Sharp TV with sony logo. N global LED of all brands . Ever since Hisense Bought Sharp n a bunch Main TV player they perfected their LED recipe ! Others can not touch .

[@chibbyylol]

Wonder why it's difficult to get the PQ EOTF tracking correct

[@vcam-g9h]

Its not hard its just that TCL intentionally choose to overbrighten the tv to try and wow people and that is the end result.

[@Yoga_Tv_buying]

Because all lights r blended/produced d same way at SAME time . For example if they add more red , then all the other Colors will look funny ! That’s what some seasoned 😮TV guy at Future Shop (I miss that store , Bearbuy bought it then shut it down ) told me that How SONY LEDs r too blue !!!! I asked why can they JSUT add more color ! The perfect combo only exist in -- Sharp Aquos Quatrum . Which no longer in USA/Canada He told me they could , but they will mess up other color , magenta , green , yellow white . It affects EVERYTHING!!!

[@vcam-g9h]

@@Yoga_Tv_buying Sony has one of the most accurate TVs in the world, you and that future shop guy need to go hang out with stevie wonder and stick to audio listening.

[@Yoga_Tv_buying]

@@vcam-g9h That’s new way to call ppl blind. Lol I thought i Have seen/heard it all. Listening lmao.

[@Yoga_Tv_buying]

@@vcam-g9h yeah -Research Scientist 👩‍🔬 in school will tell u Most Accurate Color does NOT exist. Your brain willl Perceive color in ANY time of day due to where u sit/room light content. If a PHD science professor ask u a question 🙋 in class:” what do u call the color wall at night? Dark Grey? Grey ? Beige ? Or u --SEE (your brain 🧠 tell u ) its “WHHHHHHITE?” A Lavender color attached to Pale white it looks very much Medium Purple. D Seact shade attached to Dense dark purple/black suddently it looks like Pale white purple. SONY’s Practice of Having--Blue tinted LED/OLED calling that Accuacy is NOT realisitc. Human eyes have 2X--Sensors to receive warm color than COOL 🆒 tone. Thats why in cloudy 🌥️ day cloud ☁️ Block MOSt LongWave Length RED Light. U lose Majority of INFO Sourse for your Brain 🧠 to process image as 3D. So cloudy day eveythgign looks 2D/ Flat, depressing. SONY LG LED/OLED/ QD-OLED has systempatic track record of being --pestle blue. Its the utter AGAINST-Human Biology. But Marketing upselling, talk d Talk, grandiose ppl high five 🖐️ talking points. Ps never mind the Reference MOnitor was what they DONATED tons SONY TV/Camera to hollywood (early in the door) that they all stared using it n later they could use as (oh thats d Standard). Human biology 🧬 we re Reacting to Big words(sttandrd, ONLY, Special, premium, Reference…..) that d same thing they put “ Hand Made” on every product. Yeah all things are mostly hand made. That UP 🆙 the produce “perceived Value” (its Real Busienss School Marketing Explaining --SONY FUNNY Advertising for TV). So that Standard created by SONY to measure Other TVs. I mean hello What do u think the result will be ? 🤔 We look like our siblign or some stranger from different country? Steve wonder will like me better duz I have Shi he will enjoy, not talking smack :)

[@auxiliodei58]

Does the TCL have the same "Red Ghosting" issue as the Hisense?

[@trumpetmusic5672]

Panasonic review please!

[@xxsekoxx]

What about wall mounting for the 75". I dont see the screws on the back for neither.

[@jeffjones8825]

I am confused. Your review shows the TCL having a center stand, but I don't see that in real life? Is this a 2023 model?

[@Yoga_Tv_buying]

These r both 2024 model . There is 2023 model called QM8 , d 2024 model once again is called QM8 lol (Qm851) 😂

[@AdamCate]

did i miss them talking about color accuracy?

[@matthewitaliano9088]

What is the QM8 model equivalent to in Australia? They dont sell that model here...😢

[@Adam-zg6qd]

Do the 55 inch models suffer a lot due to having less dimming zones?

[@Yoga_Tv_buying]

I don’t think it will be worse than other size . If that is d case ask SONY fans : 😊WHY is your 2023 SONY best Seller X90L 55” only have 52 (I am not lying ! ) dimming zones ? Sony X90L 65”- 88 zones Sony X93L 65” -384 zones Sony Bravia 7 65”- 480 zones . ☝🏼those r 65” 55” U8N with Color Density match /Surpass Samsung flagship QD-oled. s95D , with incky black screen , -- FULL gloss . Will be absolutely 💯 breath taking . 😊 Smaller tv ppl sit closer -- so it doesn’t need to be THAT bright , So doesn’t need to be that many zones to manage the brightness ! But focus on fine toning image

[@CesarPatoni]

How do you reduce the color banding in low light dark scenes in the U8N?

[@mrwalker6026]

Does tbe 240hz mode work well on these when gaming on PC?

[@veganporkkebab389]

Does TV upscaling work even if you use things like Amazon stick or Shield TV streaming 720p/1080p videos of internet?

[@d3vp131]

Streaming boxes do the upscaling for you

[@justeddm]

They have the same problem, available in north America. Elsewhere its try and error, performance for the same model can also be different depending on region especially for hisense

[@philfornabaio730]

Any thoughts on how they compare to last years Sony X90L since Sony has better processing?

[@Yoga_Tv_buying]

Ha Let me help u with Rtings stats(they test everything 4-6 weeks) contrast : (Rtings ) UX-- 98” 110” launch 🚀 end year U9N- 75” 85” coming out . (Euro UX 2024) UX ---400000:1 (2023 model UX) 🔥 Bravia9-380000:1 U8N---290000:1 X95L--200000:1 QN90D- 167000:1 U8k---165000:1 Qm851-161000:1 U8H-- 160000:1 Qm8--114000:1 Bravia7-100000:1 U7N---89000:1 Q90C-- 83000:1 U6N---80000:1 X93L---72000:1 U8G--- 54000:1 (2021 ) U7k----45300:1 X90L--- 42000:1-- SONY LOL 👈🏻👀🗿🗿-? Best Processing?🧞‍♂️ Hey, look up CES TV 2023 , CES tv 2024. U will find NO SONY TV attending the MOST important eletronic Event in the world First time 2 years in a row 30 years. WHY? Their X90L, Sever Blooming, Heavily MATTED screen, and low color. SONY LEDs can NOT compte, so u will ONLY HEAR online n in store Sales pitch (confirmation bias) n buy a X90L 65” ONLY 88 Local dimming zone sever blooming. Its so weird my 2021 Hisense U8G 65” I paid $1500 USD aft tax 3 years ago already 384 local dimming zones from way back ( back then matching 2023 X93L dimming zone) n still 2X Native contrast ratio n better color volume. X90L only has 88 local dimming zone, when 2024 U8N -1600 zones. There is NO comprising😊.

[@roadracerqx893]

Price-dependent, both obviously beat Bravia 7 if that’s priority….what about independent of price, does Bravia 7 processing and picture “better” these, or still no?

[@Yoga_Tv_buying]

Bravia 7 still look-- 👀 significantly worse than -- Original Hisense BOMB 💣 (2022 U8H ) 65” U8H -(2022 ) 500 zones , 160000:1 contrast , 7000:1 native contrast . Full gloss , clean vibrancy ! 😊🎉 B7--(2024) 480 zones . 100000:1 contrast , native contrast -5500:1 N -- MATTED screen -- pestle .

[@Yoga_Tv_buying]

The upscaling is iffy to judge . Because in All test , Samsung / Hisense used to be put to -- film maker mode (Sharpness - 0 😮% ! Contrast down to 45, black /grey level elevated at 50% . Color spac switched from clean 🧼 visual to “Auto” which is weird mushy Dilm dim blue mush . Motion clearing down to off , n noise processing. Off , digital noise … Off . SONY n TCL do not have d “Kill switch “ in the settings . So for long time it has been convenient for KZbinr like Digital Trends to Pitch how “if u want better tv go with SONY X90L “

[@Yoga_Tv_buying]

😂 How do anyone upscale something that is crusty n mushy n blooming to start tooth . Its like putting Lipstick on Becky then compare to Stacy - in Stacy plain face worst morning shot :) As soon as u Tweek U8 , TCL QM8. Sony Game over 🎉 😊 contrast : (Rtings ) UX-- 98” 110” launch 🚀 end year U9N- 75” 85” coming out . (Euro UX 2024) UX ---400000:1 (2023 model UX) Bravia9-380000:1 U8N---290000:1 X95L--200000:1 QN90D- 167000:1 U8k---165000:1 Qm851-161000:1 U8H-- 160000:1 C845--114000:1 Bravia7-100000:1 U7N---89000:1 Q90C-- 83000:1 U6N---80000:1 X93L---72000:1 U8G--- 54000:1 (2021 ) U7k----45300:1 X90L--- 42000:1

[@roadracerqx893]

@@Yoga_Tv_buying .... Thanks, Yoga, for that info☆

[@chebrubin]

We keep asking to do a large format face-off. The TCL 98" will dominate.

[@Nelbroth]

I was close to picking up the TCL but the Amazon profile had it classified as a "frequently returned item."

[@shanew7361]

I hear ya, what'd you decide on and why?

[@BangSkeeet]

Such low contrast for that amount of dimming zones and terrible EOTF tracking that lifts shadows and washes out the picture are terrible hits to the QM851. TCL managed to improve the QM850's EOTF from last year yet still shipped this year's QM851 with that atrocious EOTF tracking. They finalized the EOTF fix almost an entire year after the QM850 released and it's been months since they promised to fix the QM851's. Hey TCL, do you want money or not

[@walterbrob]

I would be interested to see the long term reliability reviews from owners.

[@Yoga_Tv_buying]

Me 4yr first U8 55”(cost me $900USD ) , 3 yr 2nd U8 ($1450 aft tax) both no extra Waranty . They run like tank . Same as my buddy’s U7 65” he bought bought SONY but can not compete with my Hisense Image quality . N U8 was sold out that year -- U8H was Original TV bomb shocked TV Industry . The quality issues r NOT in ULED line . Ppl mistake their $199 -- Roku TV (made to be cheap ) as same with ULED line . The same mistake ppl buy VW Jetta/Beetle , Toyota Prius mistake them similar as Audi A6 , Lexus Business Sport luxury. (Audi- VW, Toyota-Lexus , Nissan -INFINITI) same company:)

[@loquek]

I really don't understand these getting 9+ on reflections, they are like mirrors in the test and can even see the equipment in the demo shots, I don't understand how people can ignore it when viewing, and the idea of bumping the brightness to counter it does not seem like a sensible idea for your eyes. I run a QD OOLED monitor for work & gaming, and even in a near ideal setup for lights it still reflects. At the moment it seems the like 95D is the only option for me on the market and it is _expensive_ in a domain where tech changes fast.

[@Yoga_Tv_buying]

Dude u have NOT seen Hisense Flagship LEDs . They r next level premium . Hisense is d only tv doesn’t have those OLED / QD Oled reflection issues . If u r using Qd-oled for work -- that means that most image is -- bright. Ppl have 75 85” 98” tv in large room with sky light 💡/ huge windows / French 🚪! If mid day watching Game of Thrones(dark n slow scenes ) -- marathon mid day = Game OVER . 🎉

[@loquek]

@@Yoga_Tv_buying I have, I seen them in Richer Sounds, and they really don't pop compared to the OLED I can't lie... even got given the remote to try and adjust settings. Not that I mind personally, but I have actually seen the flagship Hisense LEDs and they are OK... definitely did not blow me away compared to all the OLED, but an unfair comparison perhaps 🤷

[@Yoga_Tv_buying]

@@loquek appreciate u tried to get remote. Most ppl do NOT own HIsense u8 U7 doesnt know how to set it up well. Usually takes at least couple of weeks to slowly figure out. Once its done any U7 U8 is easy on the fly. So I belive u tried to set it up. I did too with U8H U8K.in store (mutiple times all 65” 75”). The Store employees 4 of them came over zoom in asking me “what did u do? IT looks identical to QD-OLED”. The guy standing behind me 10 feet away looking at 75” Sony Flagship A95K QD-OLED was more confused that he finally diteched the SONY A95K 75” came over to look at U8K 75” ADS-PRO n going around Hisense in circle ⭕️ to see viewing angle n black level etc. n eventually more confused cuz its NOT oled. N looked better more vibrant than that 75” A95K hanging directly face to face of HIsense . Yeah 👍🏻 dude it sone of those things have to get quick tweak. Most ppl do Not know how to ADD perfect contrast/or Lower contrast or UP color Volume. (The Brighter the TV needs to have Higher Color Density/volume) . Like how outdoor parking lot eveyrthing looks bright, but Billboard on highway just as bright but Vibrant. Its the--Color Volume matters. NOT black. Most ppl try to turn black down n leave whatever it is , its like putting tv content on --OUT Door Parking lot mid day 12pm sun 🌞. It will NOT look good 👍🏻. U might wanna try again. Because it has 3X color Voluem of G3 G4. 4X color volume of C3 C4 A80L. Especally larger panel 75” 85”….all small parts of tv is stretched out. U need color Density. OLED is 1 trick pony. The mini led vs G3 G4 🥮vs 🥐 🥬 vs 🧩 🪼 vs 🐋 🐦‍🔥 vs 🍉 🌺 vs 🌸 🔮vs 👩‍🎤

[@policeman0077]

Does these kinds of TV VA panels have similar black smear effect like those on PC VA panel monitos？

[@Yoga_Tv_buying]

No not the same . Those r STUNNING ! This year VA is Significant UPGRADE on any VA of TV ! They r FULL Gloss , much viewing angle just absolutely vibrant

[@megacap55]

TCL is doing the same than Samsung does in south America for the QN90a from 55inches used ads panels instead of VA one and the price doesn't justify get a QN90A instead get a QN85A having same panel but less zones of dimming

[@Abd-k8x]

This TCL vs B4 OLED or C4 OLED

[@dsoprano13]

Do Canadians always tap the back of their TVs to see if it wobbles? 😂😂 The wobble test has to be the best part of these reviews.

[@OBXIX]

Ok guys… for my bedroom which one I should get in 65”? TCL or HISENSE?

[@Yoga_Tv_buying]

Hisense . Subwoofers 🔊 n 4 additional 🔊 speakers . 🔊. Hisense tv U8 yearly match/ or surpass G4 G3 (both rated BEST in TV speakers ) 🔊. Unless have at least $700+ sound bars . No need for sound bar . TCL has great visual , but typical (plastic funny TV sound ). Most youtube , n documentaries just talk talk talk . Most videos r just talking these days with storage image . Good sound is critical

[@FortessofShred]

I'm trying to find the best 100-inch for my bedroom gaming experience. If I can fit one up the stairs to my apartment 🤣

[@Yoga_Tv_buying]

😂😂😂😂well SAID 😊 ! Sharing what ai found . When U8K 100” was out I was on Chinese site looking for reviews . There ppl 😂 had to take out Window on 2nd floor , n pull the Tv 📺 From Window 🪟 coming in , it looked ridiculous! I guess in a good way ! 😊 n d visual of tv tilted dangling from outside of window in air was something :)

[@TheCanyonhopper]

Need to see TCL tv in real life. Have seen the Hisense ADS pro panel and was not impress with grey blacks.

[@Yoga_Tv_buying]

Yeah of course the ADS -pro looked bad on display . Seeing them 2 diff stores 75” . 1 store employees just had it sitting turn on blasting brightness! It took me ask for remote n set it up 30 seconds (turn the grey level down ) all the employees came over call it “wow looks oked “ D other store they had Hisense under S95D A95L A80L. it looked horandous . I went in ask for remote , they gave me --- 5 yr old H9g remote . 😮 then as I tweak , it was set to Vivid . Then evey single thing in the menu was manually set to be on -- film maker mode . Contrast was down to 40s , digital noises clearance off , sharpness - 0%😮 all sorts of iffy stuff ! I had to set up so fast . Looking identical to QD-OLED 😅u prob went to stores having it set up funny .

[@kampfwuffi]

Which has better audio?

[@Yoga_Tv_buying]

U8N . Hisense is known to have best built in speakers in TV for years . Unless u get like $800+ system no need for external sound bar . The tv should have 40w subwoofer n 4 additional speakers .

[@Samzep]

What is the difference between U8NAU and the USA one ?

[@Yoga_Tv_buying]

No diff in visual , but just diff OS , Tv frame . Etc . The AUS n EU ones always look nicer .

[@Samzep]

@@Yoga_Tv_buying I think I am going to go for U8n over the tcl

[@Yoga_Tv_buying]

@@Samzep yeah ! Same here . Google it up “ SONY SHARP TV partnership “ Sony’s Top tier Bravia LCD(2008-2012) , then LED(2010 -2012) used to be -- Purchases from Sharp Tv (like they do with OLED now for years ) . 2012 Sony announced “we drop Sharp as partner “ . Sharp got Bought by Hisense 2 yr later . Hisense (high end U8 , not the cheap low end Roku which U8 is mistaken as a lot ) has a LOT of spectacular Visuals reminds ppl of Original premium SONY LG . That’s why I suggest u Google it up , so u see the history on yr own eyes . Hisense TCL r all great ! Hisense has Absolutely vibrant Color rich pleasant to eyes . It’s like rich n dense subtle visual just pleasant to stare at . One of those things I have to own it to see it beside ppl trash talking they do not own one . Or they see cheap low end - $240 A series mistaken as high end as soon as the name “Hisense “ being mentioned . :)

[@165alexander]

Is the QM8 the same as - 98C855 TCL C855??

[@mfahadb001]

I am also looking for same question Is TCL QM8 same as TCL C855?

[@amirshabani9886]

@@mfahadb001me too,seems in Europe we don’t have this tv‘s,same with Hisense,we have the U8NQ,with vidaa OS,not sure if it is the same tv!

[@larsb.6420]

Im so tired of the wrong EOTF tracking, I stopped watching the review at that point. I guess Ill stick to the established brands.

[@jollama]

What do expect from budget brands?

[@sorinpopa1442]

U realise those tvs put's close to 4k nits overall brightness ? And most HDR content its optimized for 1k or 1.5k nits ? None of those establish "pocket shaking" brands u referring can put this much brightness yet ! at least not at this price range like its 0 contest.

[@futureaceone3971]

Check out the EOTF of the Sony Bravia 8 OLED. It's also not very good.

[@geesehoward7261]

How is the u8nau different from the u8n sold in the u.s. be specific and say where you got your information

[@Razzlesnaps]

Does anyone know when the U9N is supposed to release?

[@Yoga_Tv_buying]

I want the same tv . Ready to get 1

[@shanew7361]

It's out now.

[@Razzlesnaps]

@@shanew7361 the U9N is not the U8N I did a search it's not available yet U9N is more expensive with better specs

[@GODzilla_FH]

"Did the tvs switch sides just now?", did I ask myself. And indeed they did. Please don't do that in side by side tests.

[@444chroma]

we are now in the Abby era. it's a toss up for me between Daniel and Abby. Nostalgia says Daniel but Abby is so much more refined and polished

[@MOBROOKS]

As of right now 2pm 9-5-2025 (Happy NFL season opening day) On amazon The 98” tcl is selling for $3,998 And the 100” hisense is selling for $2,998 So uhm yeah, There’s that.

[@dingyibvs]

I think you were looking at a Hisense H8K from last year, I'm not sure if they even sell the 100 inch U8N in the US.

[@MOBROOKS]

@ I have screen shots if you want to see them

[@DumbledoreMcCracken]

Abby is so wonderful

[@xo9149]

Neither... Sure they're cheap(and nasty) but for a reason, don't expect quality build and longevity from these 2 company.

[@George-r8b9j]

actually do expect quality build and longevity from TCL. Amazing tv. No wonder they are so popular.

[@HenryEnrique13]

Buy the Hisense and take your wife out to dinner.

[@shanew7361]

😂

[@George-r8b9j]

tcl cheaper here.

[@mrwalker6026]

Avoid 'ALL' TCL and Hisense Tv's in Australia..even the most expensive models perform worse than a bottom of the barrel Samsung or LG

[@Yoga_Tv_buying]

😂lol 😅😅😅

[@George-r8b9j]

Not sure in australia but tcl is amazing in europe.

[@kauryoutubekonto]

just buy a crt

[@rob1261a]

Just don’t buy one! I’ve been working with computers / electronics for over 30 years. I’ve never seen anything fail worse than a Hisense TV.

[@mtrclaudiu]

None😂

[@pleiade3525]

Panasonic plasma VT 50 2012 is better than the two 2024 TVs 😂

[@Yoga_Tv_buying]

Plasma TVs neck then r Dim . Like IPhone 3GS level Dim. Day time watching it’s like dark soup visual tho 😊

[@Greenmonkey552]

What I can't stand about your videos - the snarky/sarcastic comments (Canadian humor?) and refusal to ever declare a clear winner "You can't go wrong with either" cop out to not get on manufactures bad side. Honestly the video feels pointless, your website already provides more information than these videos

[@nask0]

hello

[@RTINGSdotcom]

Hey there! 👋

[@thesecondcoming4425]

Didn’t you make a comment on the Hisense when reviewing it that it had not only quality control issues but it was buggy? Why no mention of that? Makes a difference to me.

[@Yoga_Tv_buying]

Becusee me n my other buddy who have 3 Hisense together U8 U7 do not have quality control or buggy issue . 😮the quality issue with $199 Roku has nothing to do with high end U8 U9 UX . (Toyota VW vs Lexus , Audi ). Then buggy issue only happen yearly in June-Aug . Like any new phone launch or Windows OS launch . 🚀 Already had New Firmware update last 2 weeks. No more bug .

[@thesecondcoming4425]

@@Yoga_Tv_buying no let’s here ratings say it and thank you for the rant. The U7 was never bought up by me. Now let’s stick to the U8N

[@Yoga_Tv_buying]

@@thesecondcoming4425 yeah I agree ☝🏼 . Totally 👍🏻. The TV 📺 quality issues r addressed by Hisense . I was worried same thing , almost bought Samsung . My family said :” get U8. If it suck just return “ . lol I was an expecting Roku quality . Now my family all think their ULED lines r better build class than SONY . (We had 2 Made in Japan 🇯🇵 quite pricy LEDs before ) so we were actually has worst worry lol 😝

[@justdev8965]

The answer to these kind of questions is: Neither. Sick to Samsung or Sony. Everyone else is horrible, including LG 🤮

[@elvisp2684]

It’s so funny Rtings is so bias for Hisense every year it’s laughable. The TCL is clearly the winner. They always rank Hisense the best budget TV every year. Hisense pays them that’s why. You can say that they don’t receive money for TV reviews and promotions is just laughable.

[@daviddougher8637]

In my opinion LCD TVS ARE OLD TECH.....BEST PICTURE QUALITY IS RESERVED FOR OLED....

[@Yoga_Tv_buying]

Dude u said it that’s the opinion . Here , since I went to science program in Canada🇨🇦. PhD professor 👩‍🏫 explain - color / film /Tv watching . N de BUNK OLED /Plasma . Let me explain . Today Sep walk out d door 🚪 day time , what do u see there is REAL true black ??? 😮 NOTHING ! What makes image so clear day time ? Vs Sunet ? vs cloudy 🌥️ day ? Brightness 🔅 - Warm sun color - Color volume.Densiry ! WOLED is DATED being /Dim / low color volume n density , sever blue tinted ! That’s why Plaama 32 , LG c2 CX etc used to only come 40” 43” 50” somethign like that . Any time tv goes to 75” 85” all images r huge stretched out ! Its brightness n Color density/volume calls the shot for 3D LED VS G3 G4 🥮vs 🥐 🥬 vs 🧩 🪼 vs 🐋 🐦‍🔥 vs 🍉 🌺 vs 🌸 🔮vs 👩‍🎤 LED VS C3/C4/A80L /Bravia 8 /B3 B4 All The image at background for Real content will look like that 🌳 vs 🦚 🌹 vs 🥀 🍂 vs 🪹 🍄‍🟫vs 🪵 🪲vs 🐊 🪼 vs 🦕

[@shanew7361]

Which brand is better, Hisense or TCL? I need a new TV. Don't want oled burn in is unacceptable.

[@FatMax420]

They're older tech but they're getting better. The best leds come close and don't have burn in. And they are far brighter than oleds are. It will depend on if leds can get the contrast levels of oled before oled can get the brightness of leds. Whoever gets there first will be the clear winner.

[@daviddougher8637]

@Yoga_Tv_buying wow...impressive buddy...you know how to write complete nonsense..And I was talking about QUANTUM DOT OLED NOT WOLED.....SO GO AHEAD AND RIGHT YOUR NONSENSE FORMULA AGAIN..

[@Yoga_Tv_buying]

@@daviddougher8637 thanks buddy for ur “nonsense “ insult . I haven’t used it myself on any man even if we all hear ppl talk the talk any time of day , this is new to hear cuz it’s NOT in my vocabulary of insult toward anyone :) (we Canadians talk nice ) :)

[@juicywx_z]

HISENSE 🗣🗣🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@gbm4169]

Thanks Team Rtings 🫡