Smash But Jumps Heights Are Canon

[@0PercentImagination]

Always amuses me when characters go basically nowhere in-game but will suddenly launch themselves to the moon in cutscenes as if its something they could always do.

[@VideoEnjoyers]

lmao true like "I can just fly there but I'm gonna take my sweet time walking cause it's a nice day out and there's nothing at stake here"

[@goldenhydreigon4727]

Meamwhile, you have Ganondorf who can literally float in OOT, meaning its likely TP Ganondorf can do the same, but he has some of the worst recovery in the game. aside

[@Vernias]

shoutout to Lily for making Pit's wings even prettier than they already are

[@DenisCreatorBreaker]

why am I not surprised that you are the one to say that

[@LilyLambda]

Yw

[@King_Sussy]

And even more busted than he deserves to be

[@nebuja-ce5zj]

nu uh

[@Fvckallofyou1]

@@LilyLambdaomg hi lily!

[@purple_roy2190]

1:51 ACTUALLY, Pit can only fly for 5 minutes with Palutena's guidance or else Pit's wings' burn

[@threeworldheroes]

hence kid ICARUS, cause icarus wings burn cause he flew too close to the sun

[@banki9428]

​​@Leeloo_the_foxPit will die if that happens, and dark pit has unlimited flight not because he is stronger than pit, but because he absorbed Pandora's remains.

[@oisin2696]

@Leeloo_the_fox Dark pit has the same limitations as Pit, he just used Pandoras powers which were stronger then Palutenas and let him fly for longer.

[@latinofireball627]

I would’ve said we could count the 3 Sacred Treasures(which let Pit fly without the power of flight granted by Palu or Viridi) but those got destroyed in Uprising. Also, even looking at Pit’s solo jump height in the games, the original kid Icarus is a platformer, and he’s got a decent jump height, but he only gets one. His uprising hops kind of suck though.

[@TheMostRealRealOfAllReals]

🤓

[@AshkarBehek0]

Nick: "Samus cannot fly, she can only jump." Metroid fans: "Yes... She can jump... infinitely."

[@lukesenseney1045]

Yeah when I saw the screw jump cancel in dark Samus I was hopeful that someone knew their lore, but sadly not.

[@someguy4571]

What I find the most funny in this is that Nick played Metroid Dread. Can’t believe he forgot space jump.

[@joisama]

Infinite up b could have been fun

[@praisedsun3605]

Someone didn't know Space Jump exists

[@mineandcraft305]

Bro he should have seen Samus’s space jump boots in Metroid Prime; Samus goes flying in that cutscene

[@Nikke-nn5mn]

14:50 Samus does get an upgrade that allows infinite jumps

[@explosivegrape]

Also technically bombs let u fly.

[@nermomi]

Smh my head

[@neko_knockout]

Plus she's been shown to get aerial speed through her thrusters

[@lutetiunn]

She should get infiinte Up B because it's the Screw Attack (Up Special) that allows that ability, so you are correct.

[@neko_knockout]

@@lutetiunn wellll not quite. The space jump is (more often that not) acquired before the screwattack in metroid games. It's an ability that further enhances the jump rather than directly enabling it. But ye infinite up B is LORE ACCURATE!!

[@ruberboots8971]

Now Nick has to do the ultimate canon smash bros, you take every canon mod you've made and put them together. Size, jump, damage all of it

[@Tripleseven09]

YES

[@cheyanne2001]

Hell yeah brother 🤣

[@umbralrosegaming149]

Oh gods kirby would show why he is king

[@YamFRFR]

erm actually kirby is only a few centimeters tall and he dosent jump 500 feet he actually is only jumping his height or a little more per jump therefore ur wrong ☝🤓

[@mlpfanboy1701]

@@YamFRFRf everything about kirby is cannon he destroys every other character. In terms of strengh: kirby can hit a rushing meteor the size of a city back in to space screeching at multiple light years per second with a wooden baseball bat. Speed: kirby can run against the force of a black hole meaning he and sonic on foot are essentially on equal footing. In terms of derability: in canvas curse Drawcia tried to thanos snap him out of exsistence, the only thing it did to the pink puff ball was piss him off.

[@LilyLambda]

I spent way too long just trying to get that pit wing effect working LMAO

[@FlameSpeed749]

We appreciate what you do! Keep on going and making great content!

[@partypantz7546]

Your mods are always incredible, well done as always!

[@smallferalgirl]

You're the goat Lily!

[@optimisticori]

came out great! it was a nice throwback to brawl

[@boltok9584]

Lily fantastic work as always ty for keeping these fresh

[@Nelson-rw2yd]

Yoshi should have infinite double jumps that barely lose height if timed correctly

[@Maker0824]

Yep

[@kedcast]

Dont play much mario Thats a galaxy reference?

[@edmarcuscabie134]

@@kedcasti thinl its a reference to yoshi island where if you time it right you can flutter more than once

[@mariotheundying]

​@@kedcast why galaxy of all the games with yoshi and only 1 game where yoshi can't flutter jump? Is there a glitch there?

[@Waterninja20]

​@@mariotheundyingin mario galaxy 2, yoshi can gain infinite height with a flutter jumping trick

[@bennettdaniel7779]

TECHNICALLY Pit can only use Palutena's gift of Flight for 5 minutes before his wings burn up but this only happens once during a cutscene for gameplay's sake

[@AWater22]

We’ll a normal match is around 5 minutes soooo

[@twistedhyrule]

yep and i believe the flight segments for every chapter are less than five minutes with the exception of 22

[@ceeemgee03]

7:58 Nick flying around the course with Meta Knight while explaining the rules of a jumping game to Poppt who is literally playing as a mouse is fucked up and hilarious 😂

[@MrNicosaure]

Not sure how programmable that would be, probably near impossible if I had to guess, but Pit should only be able to jump an infinite amount of time for 5 minutes, each jump after that should set him on fire and deal 80% in self damage (mmm, chicken wings) As for Captain Falcon, the anime made it pretty clear he can JUMP

[@somerandomnesspoo8467]

He also jumps in the F-Zero GX victory movie and rips his pants.

[@Betterthanever-m2i]

Ground battle pit still has rocket jump and jump glide powers, so another way to do it is just the up special does damage to him.

[@aquarios7851]

I bet I could jump higher than Nick

[@TCNick3]

cap

[@Pyoro9644]

@@TCNick3that is a factual statement nick

[@RoughnutOHoulihan]

I'd absolutely dunk on Nick

[@asazanca7766]

@@TCNick3 what's ur vertical than? 15 inches max

[@pichumaster._.]

Even a toddler can do it

[@astrixkz]

I think that, instead of counting pixels, you guys could've divided the original game jump height by original game character height, and then multiplied that result by the smash character height. ya know, the butterfly method from school! you might have to still use pixels to determine the character heights, but it'd be way more accurate, because there's no way that Simon's jump should be less than his own height

[@marzipancutter8144]

While Kirby and Dedede do get infinite double jumps in their games, the actual height you get per Button press is rather small. you have to really spam the button to go up fast, and as such, the height of their multijump should have been nerfed even though they have infinite of them.

[@dysr]

Also, they used Forgotten Land as the source for Kirby, one of the few games where he has a hover ceiling and can’t hover forever…

[@vicrai578]

I want a video with all of the "canon" mods (damage, height, jump hight, etc)

[@foxgaming7781]

That would be awesome

[@TimoDmon007]

True

[@mlpfanboy1701]

Kirby essentially becomes undefeatable.

[@Nintentoni]

​@@mlpfanboy1701really a 0.8 gumball?

[@blocks4857]

​@@mlpfanboy1701fireball

[@mizukittyakinyama]

10:25 "why does CLOUD get to do that??? he's not an *_ACTUAL CLOUD!"_*

[@cullenhutchison6528]

Simon's jump in Castlevania isn't that bad. He can jump at least his full height, and he is not half a meter tall.

[@triforce9286]

He is definitely not the length of my forearm, that's for sure. As soon as I saw that I was like "that ain't right" Funnily enough in the match it looked accurate

[@astrixkz]

@@triforce9286 yeah, in the match the jump mod stopped working, they just mistakenly thought that it was applied

[@Mr_Edward_Nigma]

definitely not the size of nick.

[@extremeboi9207]

If you count that advent children scene, than you can make Mario jump to heaven then. In Mario Strikers Charged he can literally jump higher than a building

[@Superstar-vk3wl]

The same can also be said for Luigi, Peach, Yoshi, Wario, Daisy, DK, Bowser, Bowser Jr. and Diddy Kong too

[@sheriffbirb2781]

But I believe the reason they didn't add it is because that is a spin-off game, not canonical.

[@extremeboi9207]

@@sheriffbirb2781 well how about the Mario and Luigi franchise? Or even Super Mario RPG ? These are canon

[@ThunderLgnd]

I was expecting samus to have space jump or something to that degree

[@crook5]

I think it would make more sense if Samus had cancelable up b to have space jump + screw attack than dark samus

[@SnakeSolid.]

Nick forgot that the space jump is an ability that Samus does indeed have.

[@Zyborggian]

Typical smash fan knowing nothing about Metroid

[@classy_cramorant9405]

5 months late but he said it was the BASE jump, which I'm assuming he means the height of the jump without any upgrades to it.

[@appleofdoom]

17:15 FALSE! He jumps and rips his pants when he saves a baby from a train in his F-Zero GX character profile video

[@tOGGLEwAFFLES]

Why do Richter and Simon have such puny jumps? They jump higher than their height.

[@Chris-gx1ei]

I totally agree, they need to be able to jump over Dracula sometimes to dodge his attacks

[@masterofdoots5965]

Yeah, literally in the clip they used to show their "unimpressive" jump height, we see Simon jump well over his own height

[@SilverAegis39]

"Fox jumps so high in the subspace cutscene" Nick "not canon since its smash so cant use it" Also Nick: *uses captain falcon reveal trailer from smash*

[@oMuStiiA]

Also nick: we never see him jump anywhere else so this is the best we've got

[@mettatonex7221]

Imagine if you referenced Yoshi's jump height from Super Mario Sunshine. It was NUTS in that game; you could quite literally leap tall buildings in a single bound.

[@MathematicalVoid]

Pit can’t fly as long as he wants. If he uses the Power of Flight for more than five minutes, his wings burn up. And based on one late-game moment, there seems to be something of a cooldown, since using it again shortly after nearing the limit burnt up his wings. EDIT: Forgot to mention, it also seems like whoever grants him the Power of Flight (both Palutena and Viridi do so at different points) doesn’t let him fly freely.

[@tomaszwroblewski1395]

12:06 They buffed Mewtwo so much that he can now T-bag in air.

[@felipesilva3732]

Nick should combine all these cannon mods to truly make characters accurate and bizarre Height Damage Jump Pokemon effectiveness Everything

[@crackedemerald4930]

"his unimpressive jump in Castlevania" Shows Simon jumping more than his entire height.

[@Pyrodiac]

Comparatively so to other smash character okay?

[@SSKuleDe]

9:48 Nick: No jumping Jordan, remember. Jordan: Yea, I got Up-B tho Nick: *NOOOOOOO*

[@chadgorosaurus4898]

I like how some characters can barely jump while others literally just fly around infinitely.

[@craftingwithcasey1906]

11:11 "Ohh you can just go soo deep!" "You come in anything!" WHAT WERE YOU SAYING BRO

[@boifromdamoon2537]

You should do a mod where you flip the stages upside down but the characters still play as normal. I’d love to see how that changes things

[@TdwtK]

4:12 another source for Rosalina's jump height could be Super Mario 3d World

[@icecream-zi7sc]

*Human jumps 6 feet high* Nick: Yah that’s pretty normal. Have you ever jumped?

[@flipperjr.3822]

Pit's infinite jumps should have had an ingame use timer (like rob's up-b fuel) of 5 minutes Afterwards he takes constant damage while in the air

[@fuecOHKO]

Kirby is 2 inches tall so canonically Kirby has unlimited jumps, but those jumps are tiny.

[@mochikinako78]

13:55 the almighty ganon could finally recover and be top tier for the first time

[@misssakurahime]

YESSSS I've been waiting for the canon jump mod!!!! 💕 tysm for the top tier content

[@primsylveon7451]

"After seeing his unimpressive jump in castlevania" He jumped higher than his entire height! That is not 1'7" lols

[@GeorgeDCowley]

Unless he's bigger in Smash, I guess.

[@therealkingdedede0609]

If you’re curious on how high Mega Man jumps, he jumps a little over 9 ft if you’re using Mega Man 2 as the source material. His jump height can range in different heights, but 9 ft seems the most “accurate” jump height because of his weight and to connect more with the video instead of over 15 ft of jump height. Edit: I thought Pikachu can jump higher than he did here, maybe it’s only for the anime then.

[@Menacetosociety05]

11:17 These two lines bro 💀

[@marcusalfaro3716]

Fr

[@nouche]

Well, if your source for Kirby is Forgotten Land… that’s the one game where his jumps are actually limited both in height and number~

[@dangerboatsouth4747]

15:26 so can we ask the TCnation’s editor on what the actual hell is that image? It genuinely caught me off guard.

[@ZipporahBloodlight]

i love how nick used forgotten land for kirby one of the main games where kirby gets tired and can't fly infinitely

[@BlinksAwakening]

Dude forgot Rosalina was a playable jumping character in Mario 3D World.

[@SelkieGirl]

As an Uprising fan, saying he can fly for an infinite amount of time dealt psychic damage to me.

[@s.a.k.i7768]

Well,Smash battles barely last longer than 5 min most of the time so it's not too bad

[@jakeroo123]

I had wondered how Mario and Luigi would be handled, with all the different jump heights in different games and all the different heights the different jumps get. I think Odyssey's base jump might actually be the lowest jump Mario has in any Super Mario game, except for, like, the dive rollout or something. Fun video idea.

[@zeemgeem]

pikachu can jump much higher in his only 3d fully playable appearances, the pokepark games. you did my boy dirty.

[@undockingsalad6377]

I am confused of how they figured out Simons jump height because in the gameplay shown of castlevania he jumps over his own head height but they say his jump height is 1 foot 7 inches….SO IS HE 1 FOOT TALL?!?

[@veggiedragon1000]

Meters

[@MaxWelton]

5:36 wait: isn’t Steve’s jump already canon height?? How are you measuring a meter in Smash?

[@jesuse.montano2]

They say it at start. By pixels and stuff but "In Smash lore" does'nt count. Btw... they break that rule with Captain Falcon.

[@remedynoneofyourbusiness6]

​@@jesuse.montano2 I don't think Captain Falcon jumps in FZero

[@mangoman7796]

8:10 we have a lion, up against a thousand ants, who will win????

[@TheWorldsLargestOven]

Ants are fast, if they weren't small

[@timothybass2609]

Kirby, floating in the Forgotten Land Meta Knight, has wings King Dedede, Fighting a tree crown god that explains microtransactions within the franchise. I love RTDLDX and Magalor Epilogue so Goddamn much🍎❤️

[@robertvarelaofficial9142]

Now you have to make a video where EVERYTHING about each character is canon and see what happens 👀

[@FranTheNerd]

kirby would oneshot EVERYTHING lmao

[@antonioaguirre5464]

Olimar would be easily at least the 2nd worst. Since he can't even get Pikmin now, he wouldn't even be able to beat R.O.B And even then, Alph would be even weaker. [Edit]: Wait no, I just remembered that his ship is equipped with a star destroying weapon. Se he can probably get to top 10.

[@The_Gabe]

@@FranTheNerd, far from it

[@FranTheNerd]

@@The_Gabe the only contender is joker, really. in terms of canon power scaling

[@The_Gabe]

@@FranTheNerd , Joker godstomps Kirby by a landslide. Others who could easily put up with Kirby are Sonic, the FF characters, Sora, most Mario characters, possibly Ness and of course King Dedede and Meta Knight since these two have fought on equal terms with Kirby before.

[@mastermewtwo5503]

A few issues: 1) Using Kirby and the Forgotten Land as the source, that's one of two games where he can't infinitely float (the other being Kirby 64). Another fun fact though, when Kirby's float runs out, you can do an aerial Hammer attack with right timing and go super high. 2) Should've used the original Kid Icarus for Pit's jump, which was a good few times his height as it's a platformer. The Power of Flight in Uprising isn't infinite either, he can only go at most 5 minutes before burning up. Should apply to Dark Pit as well.

[@CertifiedSoapEater]

Dark pit has infinite flight unlike regular pit because he absorbed the remains of pandora

[@mastermewtwo5503]

@@CertifiedSoapEater Only until he gets to the Fountain of Time (or whatever it was called again), then he kinda loses Pandora and has to rely on Viridi.

[@queeeeeeenn]

for Rosalina, you can play as her in Super Mario 3D World, so that could’ve been a good place to look for her Jump Height

[@blackout4655]

12:15 and THATS why u always pick the sickter

[@cactapus1562]

12:00 ah yes here we see dracula the 1'7" vampire king

[@RenderingUseless-lm5pr]

12:53 to 13:00 was an absolute perfection man, good job.

[@harryhealey4298]

I feel like Smash Kirby should just have infinite jumps already. And Meta Knight has gliding back.

[@kingalexisdumaquita8284]

"Why does Cloud get to do that? He's not an actual cloud." had me dyin' bro XD

[@Dado_nastro]

The fact link can jump with all of the stuff he has on him is impressive.

[@prestonandtom9337]

@@Dado_nastro Well, the fact that Link can shove a bunch of apples in his mouth to heal is also impressive.

[@poliorice3600]

Surprised there was no Sora, given his high jump ability (and double flight)

[@RaventhortheWarrior]

Idk, some of those jumps look too short actually. Like Simon's you said was 1'7" (.54m) but in the clip provided he's getting aerial height well over his full height, so he should have at least a 6' reach. Still a wonderful idea and lovely to see the chaos in action

[@Persun_McPersonson]

It seems like the height was actually meant to be 1.7 m (5 ft. 7 in., pretty close to 6 ft.) but the units got mixed up.

[@UniverseElementalist]

7:18 I’d like to point out that the whole humans are still around thing can’t be applied here. Shulk isn’t a human. His species is called Homs.

[@ragcat3732]

6:31 the interpolation on the legs is insane 😭

[@toonmariorpg]

14:55 "Samus doesn't get to fly." Space jump be like...

[@spud9983]

Missed opportunity to reference rosalinas jump height from 3d world

[@crawlinggoose]

2:05 bring back Brawl Pit, Brawl Pit was cooler in every way.

[@PhantomEnderium]

"Pit can fly for as long as he wants" The 5 minute burn up timer:

[@tOGGLEwAFFLES]

This combined with canon sizes and canon damage would be hilarious.

[@XolSanctum]

14:23 "You're still Ganon bro" Yeah Nick...Light thought the same thing a few years back 🤣🤣

[@WDinATX]

Lily once again proving that the editor isn’t the *only* one who’s carrying Nick. 😊

[@DenisCreatorBreaker]

Of course, did you forget what the C in TCNick stands for?

[@WDinATX]

@@DenisCreatorBreaker Of course not. It’s just a question of who’s responsible for Mr. Carried’s name. 😆

[@redstonewarrior0152]

Correction. Steve can jump a little over one meter. Steve jumps something around 1.2 meters in height. There is a certain combination of blocks you can set up to get the exact jump height, but I am having trouble remembering what they were.

[@Rowanc5915]

Canon Damage+ canon jump height+Canon height

[@cmcasey1975AO]

TCNick: but to complete the objective. Me: what DO you mean by that 🤨🤔🤨 0:31

[@spiderzsonic6581]

2:45 Many have already said it, but Simon literally jumped to his full height or even more lol

[@CerealKiller2142]

They say Simon Belmont has a pathetic jump height in his OG game and then show a video of him jumping higher than his own height. Im curious how they ended up calculating that to be 1’7”

[@masterofdoots5965]

Somebody said maybe it was supposed to be 1.7 meters but it got mixed up? IDK.

[@JoTa-xv1yb]

wow the kingdom hearts music at 8:58 brought back memories!

[@cmcasey1975AO]

duels of Fate

[@Olim1les]

@@cmcasey1975AO star wars right

[@-Ph0en.X-]

As someone who recently beat Botw, Link having a 'baby hop' is far to accurate, if not an overstatement XD

[@alesieur]

At least they used the version of Link that can actually jump. 😅

[@zsnow6200]

Lily is goated! She's super impressive with making these mods!!

[@psychicjellyfish9466]

Pit should technically only be able to fly for 5 minutes

[@theblasblas]

I don't understand why Richter and Simon were jumping so low, they clearly jump higher than their own height in their games which would mean it should at least be higher than a meter, instead of the half-meter they got.

[@Untitled_User]

Bro should DEFINETLY do a video called "Smash but everything is cannon" where he just combines all of these "cannon" mods

[@chriscombs21886]

~10:31 top 10 anime battles

[@marvelguy2006]

Jordan: Do you get to fly? Nick: That’s how I know you haven’t played Metroid. *Space Jump: Am I a joke to you?*

[@Pjo-Super-Fan]

1:37 Kirby still has a limit on jumps

[@thebe_stone]

They forgot that rosalina is fully playable in 3d world after you beat one of the levels in th3 first post game world.

[@sgt.zaitsev287]

Every event for Nick is a canon event apparently

[@ihopeyouandicanbefriends]

10:42 I'm a corrin player and this had me dying lmao the sheer disgust and disinterest in poppt's voice

[@ghosthuntermike2592]

11:30 Emblem Engage goes hard for no reason.

[@toumabyakuya]

Both Pits should only be able to Fly for 5 minutes, then there should be a cooldown period.

[@hue_pxlwolf5685]

15:00 Normally in Splatoon you can`t use the Super Jump in the air

[@bestevil.]

Splatoon 3 says otherwise

[@AWholeBunchaLeonDecoys]

True but when you can...

[@gogueta3628]

16:45 but Sonic literaly jumps buildings , he freaking jumped in a falling debree while holding a person and made his way Up instead of decreasing his fall

[@bestevil.]

Inkling literally jumped to space this isn't based on their most impressive jumps just their typical games

[@Fruitjuiceenjoyer69420]

15:31 R.I.P woomy... F in chat bro

[@gmdbobbythat9268]

the point of the bounus rounds are to give nick a point

[@Addicted2Electronics]

6:01 TCNick3 saying "Amelia"

[@hyl1an]

Lily out here doing the lord’s work with these smash mods

[@jamiegioca9448]

Yo, Nick, someday you should combine this mod with the canon sizes one

[@AcedPancakes]

your videos have the most quality out of every smash youtuber I have seen

[@Doktario_Mystario]

0:55 Kirby And The Forgotten Land restricts your jumping tho

[@chrissonmontano44]

Super kirby clash too.