Td5 gearbox strip down with lots of damage!

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[@badfinger61]

Mike, I compliment you for your intestinal fortitude in taking these gearboxes apart and inspecting them with such expertise and skill. One of these gearboxes would send me running for the hills with their complexity and W. Heath Robinson like construction.

[@BritannicaRestorations]

Thanks!

[@a760541]

Yrs ago i had a main shaft go on this particular box disco box in a series III with s 300tdi - rather than aff n faff with it got a price from dave Ashcroft and shipped it over for a new reckoned box. The new one had a cross drilled main shaft for better lubrication. I on its return i put a oil splash catcher inside the rear back plate on the transfer box to ensure the total gubbins were well oiled for the future The short shifter gearstick in a defender cab - makes a hell of a difference with little adaptation & its much more driveable. It seems someone was driving with low / no oil. Happy Easter to you

[@johnnyknap]

That’s seen better days.

[@petersmith4455]

hello Mike, greetings from England, i used to get my parts from Dingocraft in the 80s and 90s, its a FAB shop just near Hywcombe ten miles from me, i think an Ashcroft replacement g/box is the answer if shipping is not too expensive, if the clowns had changed the oil at regular intervals i don't think this would have happened

[@kevinmartin9432]

I bought a couple of your disassembly tools a couple of years ago, they are brilliant, I use them all the time!😜

[@BritannicaRestorations]

Glad you like them!

[@bradtottman1425]

Great video!!!….I run redline oil in my R 380 and change it every 60 thousand k..so far so good just over 200 thousand k on the clock..box is quiet and gear changes smooth!

[@BritannicaRestorations]

Nice work!

[@hansvanleersum8309]

Mike,great video,thank you! Now you see oil change is so important! Hvl.

[@BritannicaRestorations]

You bet

[@Specky12]

Interesting video Mike. My mate was part of the very small team that engineered the original R380 (Rover - 380Nm torque capacity, as you probably know). The joke was that it should have been called the R340, for reasons you can probably figure out.

[@BritannicaRestorations]

And this box is an upgrade of the LT77, this was used in Jags back in the 1940's!

[@MrRobmellor]

Great video Mike. Well worth watching, if only as a warning to stay away from the job. Best wishes, Yorkshire ROB.

[@BritannicaRestorations]

This is going to get expensive! I think they are going to get an Ashcroft box, as finding a Td5 box here is next to impossible

[@tormitchell1351]

I like to try and fix everything, but when every part has an issue, I think it time to throw it in the scrap.. good video. Thanks.

[@BritannicaRestorations]

Right on

[@andicog]

Just had captions on, at the point where you heated the collar up it just said "violence" 😅 another great video Mike 👍

[@BritannicaRestorations]

Thanks!

[@rdflo6739]

I could feel for the owner as i was watching.. from mild hope, 'ooh that'll buff out just fine' to total dispair as the gearbox mush gets scooped out... There goes the holiday budget...

[@BritannicaRestorations]

And his first born...

[@berndeikers8924]

just changing oil and a lot of damage can be prevented ....

[@BritannicaRestorations]

Indeed, and if this is a work truck, the oil changes should be more frequent

[@garypoulton7311]

Good to see, all three R380s I have stripped due to bearing failures have been ruined, just like yours, I just bought a new unit from Ashcroft's, freight to Northern Norway WA expensive, and I incur the core charge, but it's a lot cheaper than buying bits. Two of mine were absolutely destroyed, a little bit of damage on everything basically.

[@BritannicaRestorations]

I just looked at some prices This needs a new casing as the front bearing has chattered in the housing The casings are line bored, so having JP sleeve the bearing would be risky as it has to be in line with the rear bearing LR are giving a price of £550 for the casing, but zero stock - assumed obsolete New Td5 boxes - Obsolete

[@richardl7689]

Hopefully the customer doesn’t say just give it back to me like it was ! 😂

[@BritannicaRestorations]

See why I record these jobs!?

[@a760541]

If you do send it off for a reco unit - you'll need to bang it back together for a exchange unit. If its being heavily driven you can get HD bearings and shafts upon request.

[@BritannicaRestorations]

It will cost more to send it back to the UK from Canada than the UK core charge, and even then, we would still lose the core charge as it is too far gone.

[@ianhellyer1473]

LR had a habit of under engineering gearboxes from the latter series then defenders, eg., LT76. I can understand the S1 since it had a 1.6 then 2 litre engine. They kept up the tradition.

[@BritannicaRestorations]

LR are pretty constant on under engineering - well, they have had 70 years of practice...

[@matthewhaddon599]

Pretty much knackered!

[@BritannicaRestorations]

I would tend to agree - an uneconomic repair - as new casings are no longer available

[@Oufg103f]

Great video Mike, gutted for the other guy. Quite amazing the amount of damage inside ❤

[@BritannicaRestorations]

Tell me about it...

[@Oufg103f]

@@BritannicaRestorations 👍 it's gonna be kinda heavy to chuck over next doors fence 🤣

[@BritannicaRestorations]

Lol!

[@thechod]

So it is written, the r380 is good for 380nm torque and lots of people tune the td5 to probably that and beyond. Quite often more torque than a V8 and I think that's game over for a lot of the gearboxes. You've probably covered this Mike but just my 2 pence worth. Always enjoy your gearbox and engine strip down and rebuilds. Can't do too many of them it's interesting every time

[@berndeikers8924]

halo mike, greatly apreciate to see a gearbox again. if by a chance a series 2 gearbox is in your ER would be nice to put it on air. mine is behaving funny. first gear ratling when oil is hot, if i push the clotch it rattles, oilpressure warning light is turning on when the oil is hot, etc etc. but gearbox would be great - chears

[@BritannicaRestorations]

I see very few Series gearboxes now, unfortunately. In fact, I have not had a Series vehicle in for years!

[@josecarlosrodrigues6924]

Boa tarde Sr Mike, como sempre é um gosto observa lo a trabalhar. Como em qualquer trabalho as coisas nem sempre são fáceis. Cumprimentos desde o norte de Portugal.

[@BritannicaRestorations]

Obrigado por assistir!

[@jameskerr5756]

Great to see you have got some work in. As usual great job on the gearbox. (James - from a hospital bed 🥴) 'Don't think we can weld than on' made me laugh. Thanks

[@rdflo6739]

Hope your internals are better than that gearbox.. get well soon!

[@jameskerr5756]

@@rdflo6739 Don't think they could be any worse. Thank you.

[@BritannicaRestorations]

Lol! Hope you are on the mend James!

[@jameskerr5756]

@@BritannicaRestorations Getting there Mike. Frustratingly slow and painful but will get through it and back on my feet.

[@user-uc5vr8le7y]

Its mullerd to ruddy old hell old chap. Its fit for the mantle piece. The bloke needs to get another box and have your refurb that one.😂

[@rogergregory5981]

Never seen one that worn-out before you say its of a camper wonder how much it weighed in at

[@grayman1363]

Yet it was still managing to move fast enough to achieve top gear !!!

[@gavinralph2910]

I am amazed it was still running, quote.....its difficult to get into 2nd gear😆

[@BritannicaRestorations]

Yes, they said it was a 'bit notchy'

[@googlegok9637]

have you upgraded your heating? what are you running O2 Propane?

[@BritannicaRestorations]

Had it for years but rarely use it

[@axelboldt5101]

Send You A Happy Eastern Regard !!! How much approx. will the Repair cost??

[@BritannicaRestorations]

Next video!

[@axelboldt5101]

@@BritannicaRestorations Perfect My Discovery2 TD5 now 340000 KM on it So I can calulate if I will be able to afford it.

[@gorifranka]

I have never seen a gearbox in such a state!!!! Its beyond economical repair. He needs a new box.

[@BritannicaRestorations]

Yes, I think the 'newness' has worn off!

[@fionanokelly]

I love your gearbox videos, Mike. But have you thought of placing some sort of a side-table to put your tools and torches etc?

[@BritannicaRestorations]

Eventually

[@stephenlyttleton9032]

Time for your customer to make friends with Dave Ashcroft

[@BritannicaRestorations]

Probably offer to sleep with him! Lol!

[@mattluszczak8095]

did the box run out of oil or something?

[@gerritverburg4105]

These Gearboxes where originally fitted to BMW 5 series

[@graham-martin5847]

i looked on site for that tool they are on wacky baccy with there prices

[@BritannicaRestorations]

I bought mine 15 years ago - good investment!

[@mattluszczak8095]

run out of oil or did trhe pump fail?

[@BritannicaRestorations]

Hard to say - you would have thought that the shop in Ontario would have drained the oil before removal, and seen the debris. But there was hardly any oil in it when I stripped it

[@fire44x]

Is that kuput mike in UK now parts are stupid expensive even second hand

[@BritannicaRestorations]

Don't I know it!

[@billsoucess2448]

I have an extra r380 here

[@BritannicaRestorations]

The Td5 box has bigger bearings for the first motion/input shaft

[@scaifefab4585]

Seams to be a thing with td5s all td5s ive had sezm to fail at 60k miles think its towing that killed them Ashcrofts upgrade sorts it out

[@andrewjjhalliday]

Ah, wimoweh, ah wimoweh, ah wimoweh, ah wimoweh

[@user-fc7li1tu5e]

Maybe that pump was damaged during the last assembling.

[@BritannicaRestorations]

Or the nut had worked loose on the mainshaft?

[@mattluszczak8095]

... i dont think we can weld that up...bhaaaaaaa

[@BritannicaRestorations]

LoL!

[@chrism5433]

Ohh jeez .nrw one needed. Not worth it labour wise

[@BritannicaRestorations]

New ones are no longer available from LR

[@jamescaron6465]

Yikes! I think you could call this "catastrophic"

[@BritannicaRestorations]

Catastrophic, would be the casings cracked in two! A long way to go yet!

[@jamescaron6465]

@@BritannicaRestorations I would ask if you have ever seen a cracked casing, but I know better!!

[@BritannicaRestorations]

Not on a Land Rover, but on a steam wagon

[@jamescaron6465]

@@BritannicaRestorations That still counts!

[@BrianM0OAB]

I'm like, Ooh Argh uh ho omg tut tut hmmm wow that's been abused totally buggered, be cheaper to buy another land rover.

[@BritannicaRestorations]

Well, a new box is no longer available - would be £7,000 + when in stock Looks like an outright one from Ashcroft's...

[@user-gj7vb7zh8o]

hi