TE EP-133 K.O. II Sampler Hip Hop Review & Comparisons

This is my review for the Teenage Engineering EP-133 K.O. II. As a hip hop sampling based producer. I have a bit of a fresh prospective on how a drum sampler should work.
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0:00 intro
0:49 speaker comparison to MPC Live 2
1:29 battery life talk vs MPC Live 2
2:09 file management & hard drive space
3:22 comparing it to the MPC 3000/2000XL
4:13 vs Smpltrek, Circuit Rhythm, & SP-404 MK2
4:55 workflow breakdown
6:13 the encoder knobs are problematic af!
6:38 quick example of sampling
8:03 the recording process
8:42 playing keys (bassline example)
8:59 mixing
9:51 effects
11:08 fader gate
11:26 final thoughts & hot takes

[@AveMcree]

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[@arthurallsopp9344]

Its real my Fader does not work out of the Box on my EP-133. The shipping box is really flimsy and the fader sticks up high enough to be bumped.... Not Good!!!

[@AveMcree]

I'm saying it's an issue but I don't have the problem.. I ordered mine from GC. So it might come down to where you got it@@arthurallsopp9344

[@arthurallsopp9344]

I got mine at GC to.@@AveMcree

[@arthurallsopp9344]

It's an easy fix. Bending back contact pins on the fader. I used a bent tip pick tool and it just fit.@@AveMcree

[@YoungZx]

That was so sick

[@Dungeon_of_Regret]

If this existed when I was 16 years old, I’d have been in heaven. At $300, even watching the videos I understand how it works. I don’t need this (club deluge) but this is a superb and inspiring object for anyone of any age to get into sampling and come out with musical and fun results. Imagine being a kid geeking out to this? It’s at a price point kids can touch. (How much is a Nintendo switch these days)?

[@AveMcree]

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[@atomisitc]

Yep when I was 10 my parents got me a Casio SK-1 and I've been obsessed with sampling ever since. I bet considering inflation since 1985, the EP-133 comes in at a similar price point as that Casio

[@sillygoofyberry]

Exactly! I’m 16 and I’d bought a po33 and found it very limiting, so I’m excited for this ko2

[@jeroendeclercq7580]

I prefer buttons. But kids have phones, tablets and laptops nowadays

[@mstunameow]

I think you are nailing the "toy" aspect of Teenage Engineering products in general. They don't look like they are made for professional musicians. They look like consumer tech that is primarily about aesthetics. I don't know any real electronic musicians that would use any of their equipment. I've been a producer for 30 yrs or so and run a semi infamous record label fwiw

[@magnetoclash]

Well, the EP-133 brought me to your channel, and for that alone it deserves some props! Am now a sub! Thanks for your review! Good humor!

[@BrickBrxin]

all the issues and lack of availability just made me dive deeper in the used market to look at other options.

[@alecsbuga]

It does have tap tempo. And it detects tempo from input audio too. Check the manual

[@thelibrarian3734]

Wow really that’s cool 😎

[@derbinhamler2103]

Yep: press the (tempo) button to enter tempo mode. pro tip! tap tempo to tap tempo

[@derbinhamler2103]

Straight from the online manual

[@rambis7012]

Thanks for this comparison! You’ve sold me on the KOii. My head’s been spinning trying to figure out what sampler to get… this helped a lot. Love the battery life and swagger the KOii has

[@Kevrob04]

Ave, you're stepping up your game. Best content in the space. Very very much thank you

[@nugchompah]

Nice breakdown and cool video. The sampler workflow is extremely satisfying. Using my Circuit Rhythm is immediate, hands on and sounds great. Plugging my phone directly into the circuit and resampling straight into the box is some of the most fun I’ve had making music.

[@domzxquisite5563]

The review i’ve been waiting on fs!

[@liamokeeffe5215]

Such a great video you covered eveything. My favourite sampler at the moment is the lofi 12.

[@GROW_YT_VIEWS_137]

Your positivity is making a difference in the world. Keep it up!

[@羽衣甘藍奧頓]

Thanks for your review man, now I feel better for impulse buying it. Arrives Friii-day! 👍

[@rorz999]

Seems like a lot of the shortcomings could be addressed through firmware updates which is good, and TE have a pretty good track record for firmware updates. That's a bummer about the fixed encoders though

[@joshuawood3988]

Seems like there's alot of units faders not working properly out the box and multiple emails not being responded to

[@JamesReedy]

They’re not encoders, they’re potentiometers. They stop because it’s basically a variable voltage divider that goes from 0V to whatever the internal max voltage is and that gets plumbed to an ADC prob thru a mux. The reason for doing this? Pure cost savings. You can have a single ADC line on the micro with a multiplexer scanning the pots. With encoders you need minimum two lines and if you do two lines you do well to have an interrupt tied to one. If you don’t wanna dick with that you use grey code encoders which are 4 lines but you always always know where you are from 0-15. Anyhow engineer rant over, it’s cheap that’s why they did it that way. Also fader gate. IMHO either you break the wiper sled when you install it or you don’t. Don’t push hard, or maybe file the inside of the cap a bit to make it slip on easier. It looks like a really cheap linear pot.

[@anthonynelson1187]

That was the nerdiest thing I think I've ever read in my life.

[@JamesReedy]

@@anthonynelson1187engineer gonna engineer 😂 I used to design hardware a lot like this when I was at Line 6.

[@milosmilosmilos]

Thank you for the honest in depth review!

[@wozfromoz8795]

Awesome video dude. My unit arrives soon, was wondering if you could post a video of how you installed the fader knob? As there might be a trick to it that would be very helpful to myself and others, to maybe place it in a certain way to reduce the possibility of adding too much pressure, which seems to be where the issue people are having comes from. Thanks again, and keep busting out these awesome videos.

[@sleeper6000]

I wouldn't be surprised if this gets a refresh with an SD card slot included. It seems like a really great gateway into the TE ecosystem for the overall price. I got mine as a beginner with the intention of working up to the 404 or MPC. I like the KO's design (a big part for me) plus the price being a sweet spot of affordability felt more reasonable than what Roland was offering. Super excited to play around with making my own soundscapes.

[@all.day.day-dreamer]

If not, all the other companies are paying attention and I can absolutely promise, this class of product with an SD card slot, etc will come out for around the same $300 price point. There is a reason this product sold out and for those reasons, other companies are very much paying attention.

[@AveMcree]

Good point!

[@thethrillofnoskill4521]

Ko2 field 2500

[@towerrunner4675]

A firmware update with USB mass storage support could do the trick.

[@christianthompson1473]

​@@thethrillofnoskill4521😅😅😅

[@jcsdmusic]

I value your final thoughts and hot takes. Especially the comedic deliveries. lol

[@iShredStreets]

Thank you for being honest as always! 👊🏾

[@davidlanfair]

Awesome honest review!

[@rsafreire]

Great Video! Can't wait to get my hands on one

[@djcuvcuv]

dope walkthrough! glad your fader is working! can’t wait for mine to arrive. did i hear a sliver the opening chord to So What at 5:28??

[@djalbums37]

Best review I’ve seen!

[@DirectingSven]

There is a hp/ lp filter and u can engage both. Gives it a little lo fi but tape warbling can always be emulated with other fx or done thru fostex

[@AveMcree]

Yeah, I figured it out

[@nalaeel219]

Bruh, this is a perfect device for people starting to get into music imo. Of course there is some flaws there is never going to be the "perfect" beat box. But i'd love to see this in the hands of kids and teens who could obviously not afford 400-1000 $ units like MPC's or Elektron boxes. I actually dont like TE very much at all but I even bought one, i mean common......300 bucks? no brainer. I just wanna make music that will make your mom drop it like its hot "G"

[@JamesReedy]

Yep after much deliberation there will be one under the tree for my 13 year old son. He wanted a PO-33 but imho this thing looks less frustrating than the PO and more capable. I have the KO it’s cool, but this is better. Almost bought him the SP404 MK2 but I get a great B2B discount that made these TE boxes $224 hard to pass up. Also get the 404 cheaper but worried the learning curve may be too steep and he’ll lose interest.

[@LangleyNA]

It seems some things are missing from the 1.0 user guide/manual, but tap tempo does exist, shown about 25 minutes into Cuckoo’s video.

[@FATBOTB4life]

I been waiting for this one....

[@jamesw2831]

Given how much they crammed into this one at $300, I expect a refresh for around $399 to include at least some SD card slot, endless encoders, and more features, especially since it sold out. I still like for longevity an MPC One secondhand, but this isn't terrible for what it is. I do hope they come out with a slightly higher end version which addresses some of the issues.

[@edboymovies]

Sounds about right, like the po133 to the 33. Would you say hold off on this as someone who didn’t cave to the KO2 right away?

[@mrobinson8190]

How did you get yours so fast??? I'm still waiting for a shipping notification!! Badass videos as always sir

[@MiriAstro]

Mine arrives tomorrow. Can’t wait!

[@wesp404]

Mine was too, then UPS decided to take my joy away and reschedule for a delivery day when I’m not home. Sad😢

[@MiriAstro]

@@wesp404 Man 🙏🏽 it gets delivered perfectly

[@marcwav]

Fantastic review.

[@doubleupgut]

nick hook has a video showing how the ko has a listen feature that detects tempo from incoming audio. he even banged on his table and it detected the tempo super well.

[@XInbellionX]

It isn’t a hardware review until you do it 💯 Getting one when they restock (hopefully they keep it at the same price). Very excited to see what firmware updates they release for this. Hopefully they give more fx or the ability to swap out onboard fx through the pc app. They just killed a handful of samplers with this one 😂

[@AveMcree]

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[@PRODUCEDBYLILDOUG]

Best tutorial IMO. Thanks

[@thelibrarian3734]

I have it and the fader don’t work from day one, as a MPC Live 2 and sp404 mk 2 owner it is far less convoluted to create a beat with than the others to the extent I would even say the workflow is transparent, the punch in effects are a cool idea Roland and Akai could add such a feature via an update, I like that it’s only 64 mb as it made me focus more on choosing the right sounds as opposed to having gigs of library to choose from meaning you get shit done in a focused way, I can just run it through the SP 404 if I want a lofi effect or through koala sample, I’ve used the editor it’s cool although only online functionality? Maybe they could enable the usb socket to allow a usb hub to save samples onto a card🤔😎 Yeah I like it nice sequencer nice sound😎

[@MURDOCKROCK]

Great straight up review. Please cover how file saves work… nobody has covered this in depth… I understand it’s got 20 slots but nobody has explained how to get them off, export or song mode. Also… it doesn’t need lo-fo… the whole machine is lo-fi… check the bit rate.

[@slakk5093]

You can backup the whole machine to a file on your computer then wipe your songs and start over

[@oljones31]

This is why I subscribe to you. Keep making your content sir.

[@AveMcree]

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[@wallace_nelson]

Let's go....thank you Sir

[@atomisitc]

4:16 🤣🤣🤣 I already have MPC1000 and Live, SP404SX, got the Rhythm a couple weeks ago and just ordered this one. Where is the support group??

[@dclan2592]

dead ass I've been waiting for this video since this shit was annouced

[@vel2118]

love the snes cöassics on ur wall

[@towerrunner4675]

Thanks for comparing these samplers - very helpful. K.O. was a nerds toy, now the K.O. II changes the sampler market rapidly.

[@justletmesigninokthx]

when you are setting volume for a track, can you use the - and + buttons to change values ?

[@DKSTR]

by far the best vid on this! thanks for this! Gonna try to find one tomorrow. One quick question, if I wanna change the pattern in say group B that would be on chromatic mode playing bass sample, can the next pattern i wanna change to have say a key sample in chromatic mode and then in same pattern like i dunno, short sample on other pad doing one hits?

[@lorcazola]

Dang.....you got to it fast ! KUDOS !

[@BRANSONHOLLADAY]

Oh my god I’m getting one asap…this a whole assault weapon for the low .🔥

[@tucker2251]

I have an sp404 MK2 and also had trouble with battery life. Using cheap rechargeable batteries id get 20-30minutes. I switched to Amazon high capacity rechargeable AAs and I get at least a couple hours now.

[@jamesjr2550]

Yeah I got rechargeable battery kit from Walmart and got around the same hours as my mpc live 2 I use regular batteries and got maybe a day out of those on the mk2

[@AveMcree]

I bought nothing but the best type of batteries and it still doesn’t last that long

[@ildarkinildarkin]

Buy capable powerbank and a cable to connect it to the device. I thing it will save you some buck...

[@jamesjr2550]

@@AveMcree dang that sucks

[@ChivasKimber]

That thing is sick!!!

[@rishiiization]

Hey Ave, when did you place and order and when did you receive it? Also was this a US based order?

[@tenslider6722]

we had zipdrive with 128mb back in late 90's now i have to force myself to use 64mb? plus the learning curve is wild crazy with the limited info on screen.

[@tombaonline4829]

Ave this my be a “paid” question (meaning like patreon etc) But I have to ask. I almost bought this. I have a retro mpc live and I have a sp404 and a mc 707 for my external samplers. I started way back in a mpc2000 and want somethign very immediate from your time with it it is the KO2 more immediate than the above named units?

[@heavysystemsinc.]

You'll see me in the comments for a while until mine comes in, but the real secret sauce of this machine isn't it's specs...it's the sequencer. Hear me now and believe me later. No 4 or 8 bar limits to a pattern, new scenes stack onto the end so you can literally just create the song on the fly and it's also your song structure at the same time...and then you have 99 patterns per group? On a sub 500 dollar desktop groovebox and not a workstation? Seriously. People can shit on the sampler part, but that sequencer, for people who are okay without the top most of the line and cutting edge sound and just like pushing samples around, this sequencer is a godsend. Being trapped in 8 bar land, at least for me, in hardware grooveboxes for as long as I have, I'm surprised I didn't slit my wrist with a jagged Electribe 2 which shrank it's pattern length from 8 to 4 bars in the 'upgrade'. FFS. So just...that sequencer is gold for anyone who can make shit samplers sound good. Battery powered freedom to sequence off the grid and beyond the 8 bars.. every other damn manufacturer needs to be taking notes and ripping this off.

[@ricardomanzo]

@avemcree if you had to chose between this unit and a Roland SP-404MKII, which one would you recommend? Thank you!

[@trevormalcolm4328]

The question is……. Do I wait until (at least) the first update before I pull the trigger on this baby?

[@skrypture1162]

@AveMcree have you ever used the Roland MV8000? And if so, what is your opinion on that machine? TIA

[@ayokikando]

LETS GOOOO!!🔥🔥🔥

[@PeanutButterAM]

What batteries are you using in the SP that only lasts 20mins? Odd. I use rechargeable and they last hours.

[@LevitskiSRGE]

12:01 *fixed encoders- can you turn them 2x360 degrees or not? Physical things can not be repaired with updates.

[@AveMcree]

There not endless encoders

[@FreddieShreddieTV]

we want endless encoders! excellent review

[@SonicVibe]

the circuit rhythm is said to last 4 hr battery life you get 7 out of it ? and no liven lofi 12 or lofi 6 made the comparison list i like them more then the Smpltrek after the updates and they sound great to me and have a better workflow js

[@ryan1845]

Mine came in with a broken fader on Monday. Still waiting on a response from support. I hope they send me a new one ASAP before asking me to return the broken unit first. This was a Xmas gift for my son :( I own a lot of TE products. This is sad...

[@ghostexits]

Beside the MPC, I see the KO knobs and buttons are a lot dinkier and tightly packed than I realized from other photos.

[@AveMcree]

They are dinky

[@AveMcree]

But replaceable

[@apollothamc]

A1 video bro .. thanks

[@AveMcree]

Welcome 😊

[@Matt4star]

so i said this on the last video about this. the sp404 has too much going on and was looking for something easier to use and make and chop loops that portable. is this it?

[@tothefxckinmoon4540]

You've had the ep133 a whole day and it's your favorite? C'mon son EDIT: also, it wasn't a blatant decision to use rotary encoders, as opposed to endless. It was because during the chip shortage they purchased a surplus of components with the plan to fit them into an idea later. So these units were birthed from a bunch of deadstock components...that's also why they were able to bring it into the market at this price point

[@tothefxckinmoon4540]

@docwhammo I disagree, is very much a sampler. Limited, yes....but still a functional sampler

[@krisdamac]

😂😂😂

[@xkidmidnightx]

@docwhammosince when did samplers have to have screens?

[@Byronic19134]

Stop, you;re starting to make me like Teenage Engineering.

[@censoredialogue]

he said it’s his favorite compared to the SampleTrak n 404 not of all time lol

[@lundsweden]

Its a cool looking device, sounds great too. But is it gonna survive? Seems pretty fragile for something that costs $300. Korg can make Volcas for cheap, and they're durable af. That display reminds me of early 80s handheld games that had vacuum fluroecent displays, or old VHS machines or whatever!

[@willyum3108]

The displays are the way all the pocket ops look. This one has color though.

[@eddieleonard6925]

Agreed, it looks fun but in the future, all i see are broken buttons and more generic beats flooding our airwaves.

[@Viedhoe]

I just joined, I like your shit. I'm a device nerd as well, that KO2 looks like it was made out of calculator parts. Have you done the ASR, SP, Emax, or Motif? And I have a MPC 61 Key, I would love to know what you think about that shit. Lastly..I didn't know that the Live took a lithium ion battery, 🤔 that's kinda wack 😞

[@bagoftrix]

I wish i pulled the trigger before it sold out... I've had the OG OP-1 and it kinda looks like this is more of what i wish the Op-1 would be, sampling wise. The 404 MK2, i thought it would be my go to, but it has been collecting dust for months now. I was so happy it could basically do everything i hoped it could do, but now i realise there is a thing as 'too much'. This looks like a way more focused and streamlined device and workflow. and at 2/3 of the price of the MK2, it's hard not to give it a go. and to lo-fi it, lets just go back to sampling at 45 rpm or speed the audio up before sampling, until they add that feature :)

[@afrobizkit]

Hopefully we can get tap tempo and lo-fi with a firmware update. True that nothing can be done about the knobs, though!

[@QueMusiQ]

9:27 BRUHTHERFORD! That BEAT is SMOOTH! Ordered one of these for my lil girl as her first sampler. You say I need a usb-c to usb-c? Okay. It got an audio cable? Because she has a bumpboxx comin Christmas too.

[@loslosbaby]

I put the Tap Tempo in there for ya. Thanks for letting me know.

[@plasticsamalt6633]

Hey folks. As an Ableton beat maker I gotta ask y'all a question, how do y'all use the beats you make for actual songs? For me it's essential for the mix that I have access to each track individually. So I can rearrange and reprocess it for different parts of the song. As for beats made on these samplers - how do y'all go to the next stage of mixing, adding vocals and creating different parts for the song? Thanks

[@apoclypse]

I'm assuming just old school tracking like we used to do back in the day (solo each track and record it). I do that with the MC101. I track the drums out one by one. It's not as easy as just dragging and dropping stuff in or having a plugin but it's not hard to do either.

[@plasticsamalt6633]

Is there a sampler that has software that would do that? I would love to find a sampler that would integrate with my workflow, I just know I would be too lazy to track my beats lmao.

[@JayDAndre]

It does have tap tempo. 🙌🏾 just found it. Just gotta tap the tempo button lol

[@frankspassion]

At the end of the day, it is your opinion and everyone has different tools. What matters is the music youre able to make and whether or not you like it or not

[@aopaul]

Honestly I never rely on built in fx. For low-fi my Shallow Water or Generation Loss II will make short work of that. However hopefully they will do an update low fi / bitcrush mode for those on a restricted budget! TE has been pretty good with updates. Just hoping it’s rugged enough to last that long… they should work with the team that makes Nintendo controllers out of Nintendinium!

[@avrilcadabra]

on the discord I dwell on 3 out 4 have had not working faders. I have one coming, and from watching videos some cons seem to be, can't cue up a bunch of scenes to auto play like on the ko33, scene changing is not quantized like the ko33, cant backup the device like ko33

[@MK-vi2cm]

no offense but the lofi effect is overrated. not a deal breaker for me

[@tempmode37]

I can't believe its that good wow

[@jeroendeclercq7580]

Can you do the computer stuff on a smartphone as well?

[@jonathankeith6186]

I was thinking, so you know how places like Best Buy or even Wal-Mart electronics department usually sell those External Card Readers for SD Cards, Sim Cards, etc. Well I wonder is there a small possibility if that may or may not work. Just a thought.🤔🤔

[@AveMcree]

It has no way to read internal external memory because it doesn’t have that kind of directory

[@jonathankeith6186]

@@AveMcree Okay thanks Bro.

[@culturemax234]

Where i can get some of those mpc flash drives from?

[@SlickGriminals]

My 2 cents is lofi is an easy fx to recreate. Sometimes resampling something maybe pitched up and slowing it back down adds character. Rinse and repeat lol

[@originstories]

It doesn't have resample

[@SlickGriminals]

It can’t resample?! 😱 thanks for the heads up 🙏🏾

[@Roland_Tr909_Swing]

I've heard loads are having build quality issues ...I'll wait for a year

[@itchyjazz]

same here. i need an AA meeting for samplers too! 😅

[@pdmidipd_patch7476]

About the fader gate : watching some unboxing and assembling videos , it looks that the fader's cap is very tight and people have to squeeze it hard to fit .

[@wesp404]

There’s a video on it. Apparently when people push it down with force, it bends the connection pins so it loses contact after it’s depressed. Very bad QC, but not very suprising for TE. Nervous about my package coming, knowing a replacement if I have issues will most likely take a long time.

[@pdmidipd_patch7476]

@@wesp404 I suggest try widening a bit the cap first , so you won't have to press the fader much .

[@thelibrarian3734]

To be fair you don’t have to press hardly at all so it’s a poor quality component on the fader.

[@halfblackhalfamasian]

@@wesp404 The cap for the fader is a very tight fit, unlike the other caps. I tried to see how much pressure it would take, and I didn't want to break mine, so I didn't even put it on. I have some vinyl slider caps laying somewhere. I'll probably just use one of those

[@ameddayr]

This thing looks beautiful and like a lot of fun. There's a dealbreaker for me, though. I don't want to be reliant on the web app so I can transfer data from and to this device. I shouldn't need to have an internet connection for that at all. They should release an offline version of the web app.

[@jackduxbury1632]

Such a great breakdown and really value the comparisons you made with the other samplers past and present. Thank you Sensei 🫡

[@pekjoek]

it has tap-tempo, hopefully endless-pott-mods will come and be able to program in firmware!!

[@Pavillionairez]

Is every thing on the grid on this sequencer? can u add swing or turn off quantize?

[@QWLMusic]

You can add swing and turn off quantization

[@Sinnersainthuman]

nice beat Ave

[@Bigheadedwon]

So like what the hell do you do once you make a beat on it? If it's hooked up to MIDI in on an interface unless I have the exact same samples in my DAW, playing back the beat, sequencing it, err whatever the term is. I'd need to have the exact same samples in my DAW for it to sound the same. So a beat made with the built in drums and samples, how do you get it out of the machine in a usable format with the actual sounds and not just midi notes? Obviously, I don't know shit here, I'm used to making a beat on my MPC One, then when I hook it to the PC I can load it directly in the MPC software and edit it, play it back, whatever. I'm confused about how you use the beats you make with this. It looks super fun and is cheap. Could some MIDI fellow explain this to me? I'm sure it can be done, I just don't have an understanding to know how. And before I buy one I want to understand the post beat process.

[@clayxaviermusic]

I’m with not putting a lo-fi button on there, it’s so easy to fuck up your audio on your own lol. The time stretch has a signature sound that’s more useful to me

[@BMakk205]

Do it have a song mode? Some say yes some say no!

[@synthshapes]

I think I saw that it actually does have tap tempo! You have to tap it four times for it to grab it.

[@devondetroit2529]

What does the sample pitching sound like? Has it got filters? Can you resample?

[@wesp404]

Has filters but currently no resample. I hope they add it though, but I’m curious how weak the processor is in there since they seemed to cut down on costs to delivery this at $299.

[@4th_wall511]

Damn how did everyone get theirs already mine hasn't even shipped from TE yet

[@Makinthadough]

What is lo-fi and how are you using it?

[@ricknorris1466]

No Reverse Effect is crazy! You could record some lo-fi samples into it. I’m putting Mellotrons into mine.

[@TheRealNativeSun]

I was giddy when I first saw it but the more and more I see reviews and other content creators do demos it’s really not impressive. If your a hobbyist best maker it has a great price point. But if you want beef the Mpc or Sp404 might be a better rough. Memory Expansion or Durability wise. Salute to Avee!

[@AveMcree]

Fair enough!

[@rayquazapasta6272]

The only TE product that I’m actually interested in, price says it all

[@freshestinclass763]

Yeaaaaa go ave!!!💪🏾💪🏾😂😂😂😂