Teardown/Repair 1972 Bell&Howell 1535 16mm Film Projector: Worm Gear

[@denispenkin6542]

Good video! A girl who understands technology excites me first!

[@skycarl]

Really nice work on this project Rin,, it is really good to see younger people being able to work on older technology and have an understanding of it. Well done.

[@RinoaL]

thanks :D

[@eugenepowe1117]

Cool vintage film projector from 1972. I remember this same model from elementary school back in the day. Brings back great memories. Amazing. Thanks for sharing. You're awesome.

[@martindew5038]

Excellent video, congratulations! I just replaced one (my first time too) on a B&H 1695 on Thursday here in the UK under supervision by an expert. Long live Bell & Howell. Too many people are throwing these machines away because of the worm gears, but they're beautifully engineered projectors and should be preserved.

[@alljerseystudiosnj]

Fantastic job! Thanks for the key overview. For me, even though I already bought the gear and a "useless" manual, your 13 hour project has convinced me to NOT attempt to fix my 1580 but rather offer the major pieces for parts.

[@RinoaL]

I could take the projector and fix it up for myself if you’de like.

[@RichardKingADI]

I used to make my living servicing B&H projectors! Brought back some memories...

[@RinoaL]

cool! did you work only with B&H projectors or was that one of many things you did? i'd love to hear more.

[@RichardKingADI]

Mostly B&H 16mm projectors. The company I was with was originally called 20th Century Fox (South Africa) . Before the days of video and the internet, 16mm film was a good source of entertainment - especially in countries which also had no TV! A monthly film show could be quite a treat. When I first went to Africa, I was in Malawi. Family friends who had a fishery station on Lake Malawi had a monthly film show for friends and locals. The local Africans would walk for many miles to come and see a movie. They loved the funnies, like Max Sennet, Buster Keaton and (especially) Charlie Chaplin, but would mostly leave once the main feature started! 16mm film was also used a lot for training and information for people in remote places. My dad was with the Malawi Ministry of Information and ran a fleet of Landrover based mobile cinemas who traveled through the bush.

[@RinoaL]

Richard King wow thats really cool!

[@jameslester3861]

Richard King I repaired AV equipment for a school system for about 20 years and repaired many 16mm projectors. We had access to B&H,Eiki,Singer, and Kalart. I enjoyed working on the projectors the most. We closed the AV shop down in ‘02 and about 10 or 12 projectors went to the dump, some of them with probably10 hours use on them and over 100 lamps to go with them, what a waste.😞

[@ganeshkomatla7920]

You remind my childhood day's. I love film projector always.

[@WashyBanjo]

Just fixed one of these out here in 2024. Thanks for your helpful video.

[@RinoaL]

this projector's worm gear has been broken since before i got it back in 2008 or so. i cant believe i managed to get it back together and working so well. this is the first time i've gotten to experience 16mm film running on a non-broken projector. i think this is probably one of my favorite items i own now.

[@kristy6597]

Rinoa Super-Genius awesome

[@clydefishface3869]

EXCELLENT WORK! Whenever i get that far into a complex mechanical assembly I end up tossing it all into the trash.

[@bryngerard4334]

Perseverance! That's brilliant, reminds of a £50 car I bought once, when I arrived home I put it in reverse and the clutch release bearing went :( I had to take the engine out to replace a £3 part with zero experience of working on cars. There's nothing quite like jumping into the unknown :)

[@RinoaL]

Bryn Gerard wow thats cheep, reminds me of a 75$ ford escort my mom bought for parts back in 2002 or so. when did you buy that car? i'd imagine it would be easier to get that price the further it was in the past, like the 1960s or whatever.

[@bryngerard4334]

It was 1980 and the car was a 1967 Bond 875, made of fiberglass with perspex windows and aluminium doors that didn't quite fit ;) Oh yes, and only 3 wheels, went really fast though!

[@mystarstudios]

I don't have a B&H 16mm projector...but I do have 5 Elmo 16CLs. I do pretty much all the maintenance an repair work myself keeping these machines running. Your video is a great inspiration showing how a little patience and determination can bring these beauties back to preforming well. I have experienced your same excitement and satisfaction after performing a repair. Totally awesome...keep it up!

[@hansformat]

Great video...a lot of folks will benefit from your expertise doing this.

[@MYNICEEV]

An awesome repair my dear. It is always satisfying to make something work that was broken. Even more so when the item is from the past. Hello Sharon. Have a great day both.

[@RinoaL]

thanks!

[@amedamed7718]

you realy surprised me , whay becuse i tride to change that gear befor 25 years and culd succeed und you bring me back to same image , Great work thank you by other way i born in 1972

[@HelenaOfDetroit]

That magnet trick is gold! :D

[@RinoaL]

i'm glad you think so :D

[@Ampex196]

Great work Rinoa. It always was a horrible job, .. I've done it once at home. Never ever again I swear. A late friend who had done dozens of them could do it in two hours (ish) practice perfect. He worked for Jim and Edna Lawrence at The Camera Clinic, Chester-le- Street, Co. Durham. Lovely to see that they are still in business - lovely people!! It is important to note, and NOTE WELL, that failure is not related to hours of use or lubrication. It is a manufacturing defect and nothing more. I had a brand new gear just sitting on my spares shelf and it started to break up. .... On the other side of the coin: I worked at an art house cinema with a well used TQ3 and the original worm gear was perfect.

[@ben102057]

Wish me luck! I’m changing the worm gear of my 1552 model. Your video is helping me greatly along the way, and for that I thank you. The only catch I had was that the model I own had a Directamotion mechanism. I had to remove it, as all I want is to change the gear, grease the machine, change the belt, and let it function with ease. I’m only afraid of the reassembly!! I’ve been watching your vid so many times, as to memorize almost every step, so I will be reminded of where the pieces go, lol! Update to follow.

[@theprojectorproject]

Awesome work! That was a HUGE job. Great video work as well. Thanks so much!

[@jacespirit6532]

I have this same machine sitting in front of me. It turns on and lights up but squeeks while running. I was tempted to take it a part after watching your video.....then I woke up! LOL Your work on this still inspired me though.

[@RinoaL]

If you ever want to get it repaired you could send it to me, or if you want to get rid of it I could take it. I dont get reply notifications here so email would be best if so

[@HamWithCam]

I must say, I am impressed! Nice work!

[@garypamflett2150]

had a worm gear problem on my bell and howell projector...took me ages to replace it but i got it done in the end . full teardown .supprised i got it back together again,,was worth it in the end ..think they was made of nylon. they shrink over time hence cracking / splitting ,,

[@rivards1]

Good job! Happy to see you actually working on some gear instead of just moving it around. :-)

[@detroitos]

That's the coolest damn thing ever!! I wanted to sit down and watch that movie after..lol Congratulations on the repair job.

[@RinoaL]

yeah im pretty excited about this myself. i just bought a Bolex and some 16mm film, im going to start shooting my first 16mm film tomorrow. :)

[@SuperKingslaw]

Truly one of your very best videos. Congratulations on a great job!

[@RinoaL]

thanks!

[@richg.2579]

Haha pretty good for no tools, the lineman's pliers, short hex bits and she did it. I'm amazed

[@edtuckerartist]

Admire your perseverance taking that whole thing apart to replace one small part.

[@bowiejudah1617]

you prolly dont give a shit but if you guys are bored like me during the covid times you can stream all of the new movies on InstaFlixxer. Been watching with my gf lately =)

[@connorwill2694]

@Bowie Judah yup, have been using InstaFlixxer for since december myself :)

[@daltonjameson1506]

@Bowie Judah yup, I have been watching on InstaFlixxer for since november myself :D

[@russellkasen1920]

@Bowie Judah Yea, I've been using instaflixxer for since november myself =)

[@jaycematthias755]

@Bowie Judah Definitely, I have been using instaflixxer for since november myself :)

[@trevorlahey782]

Great job rin, I would have been petrified of disassembling that thing lol really enjoying the remix you made as well it's pretty chill to listen to.

[@RinoaL]

thanks, and thanks again! :D

[@davidhaney1394]

Wow , thats not how you do that , but , you got the job done so, hey . Props to you !

[@toddteagarden2200]

I have something similar but the shutter and sprockets stopped yet the motor still runs. Your video is very helpful in trying to get this thing running again!

[@RiffHarvester]

5:12 Reminds me of my first time... Love your videos!

[@bailzer01]

Douglas Plaisance ...

[@mukeshsingh-vs7ql]

Now it is working smoothly , arrange one show for me too

[@kristy6597]

I love the look in the inside

[@radiographpictures2746]

Thanks for posting this. Great Work!!! I have two 2592 projectors to do the same operation on and a 552 that needs some help as well. One 2592, a $20 find, on inspection found the worm gear broken down the middle and the drive belt too loose. My "good" 2592 I got curious and opened it up and found 7 cracks in the gear. Hopefully, I can find the right worm gears to keep my still frame and frame by frame functions.

[@evanwolfe2525]

Persistence wins! Nice video. Keep It "ReeL", Evan Wolfe

[@TGHstudio]

Damn, I didn't know I had this much interest in projectors... the sound alone is so awesome! If I ever get the chance to get one, I think I will :D

[@RinoaL]

i think they can appeal to almost anybody. they are so cool. i talked with my local theatre that switched to digital projection and it looks like im going to get their old industrial 35mm projector. so i'll be doing videos about that someday! :D

[@TGHstudio]

Awesome! I am looking forward to that :)

[@Designsbyg]

Thank you for doing this vid. I commend your patience and diligence to tackle this sort of repair. I recently acquired a B&H 1585 but I haven't gone as far as taking the back off yet for inspection. It sounds ok at this point and runs film without any issues. It looks like I will get my hands on an EIKI this week, which from what I hear are built like little tanks. Anxious to hear about the 35mm projector you have your eye on tho...

[@rudyflores8886]

Great tutorial thank you,where can I get a worm gear for my 2585 BH?

[@craigfulmer5069]

Thats a lucky projector to have found you.

[@tripops3]

You rock. I've just opened one I picked up for free, and the worm gear is toast. I'm handy, but I don't know if I can do all that surgery.

[@RinoaL]

well you can always come back to it later, but you will learn a lot by trying

[@tripops3]

@@RinoaL - thanks for the encouragement. Since the old gear fell out in pieces from the aluminum mount, my concern is getting the new gear in sync.

[@LindahlAndre]

@@tripops3 Did you ever try to replace the worm gear? I have the same problem. My worm gear is in tiny pieces and completely fallen off. This probably happened when I tried to start it after sitting unused for decades. It made a lot of noises. Since this and others videos seem to suggest that the gears must be in the exact right place I now worry about sync issues when replacing the gear.

[@tripops3]

@@LindahlAndre - I did put one in, and my fears were realized. It runs well, but is not in sync. I know I'll be forced to take it apart again, but I don't know the tweeks when I do. How can I be sure I've lined everything up for good steady framing? I did see one video where they have a countdown section of film and manually run through the assembly before getting back together. My model is #1574

[@RagtimeFreak86]

Awesome Job! I love old film equipment... Now you need to find an old 16mm camera and make your own films!!

[@RinoaL]

way ahead of you. i'm actually shooting my first 16mm film test tomorrow. i'm gonna bring my new Bolex H16 to my grandfather's forest and film the trees in their transition to winter.

[@RagtimeFreak86]

Excellent, that sounds so cool!.. good luck! :)

[@RubenMartinez-xb5ko]

Ese gusano da un trabajo varvaro tenes que desarmar todo el proyector y este muchacho lo desarmo como nada felizitaciones

[@Sunsetdrivein]

Larry Urbanski of Urbanski Films has now reproduced three of the special tools needed to replace a worm gear: Sprocket Timing Plate, Loop Restorer Tool, and Soundhead positioning tool.

[@larsbliss2728]

Great video and quite helpful for the DIY person that should know what they are getting themselves into with a job like this. I had to laugh when you used the one word in every DIY'ers vocabulary, "oh shit...". :-) I picked up an older 16mm B&H with a broken worm gear. I opened it up before buying it and was aware of the problem and have seem it in the last 6 machines I looked at. I was going to give it to the local B&H repair guy, who is really cool BTW, but I asked him if it was worth repairing (overhaul) he said it would be as long as I didn't mind the tube amp it has. I love tube gear so now it is getting an overhaul by an expert. At $450 for the job people might say "dang, that is too expensive! Are you nuts?". Well, ask yourself these questions if you like film and will use a projector like this. 1. Will I use it often? 2. Do I want a projector that will most likely outlast me? 3. If I could buy a new one, how much would it cost? If you answer yes to 1 & 2 then it is worth having one rebuilt by a professional. If you could even get a new projector I guarantee you a good sound projector would be at least $1500 for the demo unit. In the old days I would have probably tried to repair it myself and spent the time on the job to do it right. These days I have little free time with work and what free time I do have I would rather play with the dogs, shoot some film (still and cine standard 8mm now but moving into 16mm gear), shoot some clays with my old SxS shotguns, and maybe actually go somewhere fun.

[@smartrain1]

Very interesting and I'm glad it worked out well. I have had several B & H's but now I just stick to my one Elf/ EIKI. It is a far more simpler machine to deal with so that even an idiot like myself can take apart the cam tank and service for example. You just need a Philips screwdriver.

[@sewell2777]

Great projector and great job repairing it! Loving these film related vids lately! I just got an unmarked reel of film for £4 (about $6?), ran it through my projector and its "Earth Vs The Flying Saucers!". Being a sci-fi buff you can only imagine how thrilled I was! Nevertheless good luck film hunting and I look forward to more vids :)

[@RinoaL]

oh my god, your comment is far far far more significant than you may realize! i've been looking for the name of that movie since i was 9! we used to always go over to my great grandparent's house every sunday evening to read the sunday funnies and have some snacks. and one time my great grandpa couldnt find a western on so he settled on a movie that was showing on the tv, it was a scene where a scientist (and i think his wife) discover that an audio recording has alien speech that can only be understood once undercranking the tape speed. and then we had to go home and i only got to see the last 4 minutes of the film after i turned on my tv at home. i never figured out what movie that was but it looks like thats the one. i've wondered about that movie soo much, and spent hours searching for the name of it. oh btw thats really fucking cool that you got that reel. is it the full film? and is it on acetate film? :D

[@sewell2777]

Rinoa Super-Genius Glad I could be of service! And I do believe it is acetate although it is in beautiful condition, I'd even go as far as saying it may never have been played and stored perfectly through the years. I'm yet to run the entire film as I'm worried that years of sitting in the can may have caused what I like to call "sticking". Essentially where the emulsion/varnish layer has turned to a tacky glue and fused the film together. I'm about halfway in and haven't had a problem yet though! P.S. It is the full film, I'm tempted to build my own little viewing room/Cinema like you're doing!

[@RinoaL]

Sewell 27 what your describing is vinegar syndrome, like with one of my leonard nimoy films, the film backing has all shriveled up and stuck to itself, and there are crystals growing out of it from the chemicals doing shit.

[@tinicum54]

BTW, on those, you should pull the Circuit Board out and check the solder connections on the larger caps, the vibration can make them intermittent.

[@PMTPereira]

Kinda cool that the projector case looks like a computer one, would be fun to build a computer inside one.

[@RinoaL]

a cooler idea would be a film editor case.

[@PMTPereira]

out of my knowledge :P but it surely is!

[@RinoaL]

PMTPereira looks like people already do it. www.google.com/search?biw=1280&bih=629&tbm=isch&sa=1&btnG=Search&q=film+editor+old#tbm=isch&q=8mm+film+editor&imgrc=_

[@PMTPereira]

Some of those look pretty great!

[@ebraehimsigaga7461]

Great video, thank you, I had it I have the same machine, but the model of the sound circuit is old valves, that was my problem. Broken by one of the bearers of the claw, the movie drawer

[@kristy6597]

When you going to do a video of the 3 wheeler in the tarp shed?

[@tinicum54]

I repaired hundreds of those through the 70's and 80's, 500 series and up, you have not lived until have to sync the automatic loop restorer with the autoload mechanism. The clutch assemblies in the 500 series were even worse. Your difficulty came because you did not do a total disassembly. Removal of upper and lower sprocket assemblies. I got to the point around 1982 where i could do them in about 5 hours. Labor rate at that time was $375 for an overhaul, plus parts.

[@Sunsetdrivein]

Yeh the clutches in the early 500 series were a pain. Once they switched to the Torrington clutches, it made things a lot better.

[@Rockstars-Gig-Memorabilia]

Great video.. I bought a similar one -a 1695 for a very small sum a couple of days ago. At switch on nothing turns. I removed the back and the worm gear looks in good condition. If I flick from forward to reverse the worm gear moves a little but the drive belt to the motor is static. It's as if it's stuck somehow. I imagine the drive motor is dead?

[@RinoaL]

well id recommend seeing if you could remove the drive belt at all or make it so its loose on the motor shaft, and then see if the motor spins without any load on it. then try turning the projector assembly by hand and seeing if its stiff. the old lubricants they used tend to gum up so it could be locked up a lot. some new sewing machine oil or even a good cleaning can help that

[@Rockstars-Gig-Memorabilia]

@@RinoaL Thanks I'll give that a try...

[@marc-sebastian4938]

Unkenntnis und Leichtsinn führen oft zu Unfällen. (Thats what the guy in the movie in the beginning said) Wie wahr, wie wahr. Greetings from Germany

[@RinoaL]

oh thank you very much for that, i'm still learning so i am terrible at listening to bad audio like that. that actually helps a lot because i couldnt tell exactly what he was saying. i plan to get an audio recording directly from the film though when i convert it, i should be able to understand that better.

[@marc-sebastian4938]

Oh, you're learning German? Do you have fun doing it? I think it's hard for English speakers, because English is -in comparison to German- a quite simple and logical structured language (At least I, as a 14 year old guy, thats learning English for five years now, think so.)

[@RinoaL]

msgeek yeah i generally enjoy learning languages, but german is especially fun. i mean sure its fun because now i can start reading and learning technical stuff from wikipedia articles, and kinda watch a documentary, but i find pronouncing the words to be really fun. so far my favorite word to say is "Frühling", idk why i find it fun, but it is. it might be because it has the "r" in it, and thats fun to say. its funner than when i was learning Japanese. thats for sure >_> and i agree, english is very simple. but i think i find it far easier to learn german because i know english........might also be because i used to live in the german-speaking part of Switzerland for a short time in the 1990s. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ i find the articles really fascinating, and also a bit fun too. i've drawn up a lot of diagrams of my understanding of them since starting to learn. thankfully i've actually settled on a diagram that really closely reflects the normal representations on the internet. although i've mostly just been exposed to nominative, accusative, and a bit of genitive articles. it also solved a few mysteries for me as i learned the language. in 1998 i bought a game called "Anno 1602" and still play it a lot to this day. its a wonderful game. but i was always mystified by how the cheat-codes would use "z" for brick, and "h" for wood.....it blew my mind when i came across Ziegel and Holz. for like 16 years i'd wondered why it was those letters, haha

[@marc-sebastian4938]

To be honest, I as a native German speaker don't know anything of accusative, nominative and all of this stuff. If you ask me something about it you do have just a little chance of me replying. Well... if "Frühling" is your favorite word, i've got something for you. -Quietscheentchen (That's the little yellow plastic duck you take in the tub with you) -Streichholzschächtelchen (That's a tiny little box for matches) -Donaudampfschifffahrtsnebentürsteher (Well, thats not a word you use in everyday German, but that's the term for the backup of the security personal on an old boat driving on a german river (the Donau)) And last but not least the longest (official) German word: *drumroll* -Grunstückverkehrsgenemigungszuständigkeitsübertragungsverordnung (Thats actually a word that's written in the German law and it basically says that if you have a property and someone else has a property next to yours and to get to his property he has to go over yours and thats okay for you, but if you sell your property and the new owner doesn't want, that the other guy goes over his property, then this law protects the guy that's now trapped in his property (xD) and lets him go over the other property. Got it? No? Well, German law is sometimes not that useful, but whatever.) I wish you a lot of fun pronouncing these words ^^

[@RinoaL]

msgeek i think your confusing "fun" with "long". knowing the modules of those words helps a lot, so once i learn them its pretty easy to read longer words most of the time. but its not hard to memorize them if i need. and that makes perfect sense, you dont want issues of land-locked areas. you need to make a road to your land somehow.

[@RS-tp3uu]

Would you happen to know anything about a 1930s-40s Bell and Howell filmosound clutch not engaging?

[@frangiul13]

Awesome job! I have a B&H 2585 with the same issue but unfortunately I'm not as mechanically inclined to do the replacement :(

[@RinoaL]

+frangiul13 well if you ever need to get rid of it, your free to ship it to me and ill give it a good home. my PO box is on my channel 'about' page. im also hoping to make a really nice digitizer and maybe someday start digitizing some films people send me.

[@frangiul13]

I wound up stripping it down and saved the both the projection lamp, exciter lamp, and all the belts. The rest I tossed. I'm good at all other repairs on both 8mm and 16mm projectors, but removing/replacing the worm gear is a bitch and I don't have the time nor patience.

[@RinoaL]

thats a real shame.

[@DeathbyDusk]

Oh god, the hell of repairing mechanical analog devices. Made me nervous watching this. I've had to deal with stuff being reassembled with no care taken for the proper alignments. At which point I generally consign it to the grave, because fuck dealing with that noise. "I took this apart and put it back together and now it doesn't work right" Goodnight sweet ass mechanical adding machine, we hardly knew ye. Glad you found and fixed the problem, and got it working like it should. Though as someone who generally likes vintage things vintage, I am kinda iffy on the idea of replacing the bulbs with LED's.

[@jaywalt1311]

I dont like the extra screws hes left with but LED upgrade is a great idea. As he stated no need for the blower with its added acoustic noise and with little chance of burning film. I do understsnd your concerns with modding it snd one would hope a sympathetic modification would be done. One that could be reversed if one desired. I was also suprised at the number of nylon gears...

[@MyPlayHouse]

LED light does not have all the colors in the spectra. But it might be possible to color correct the film, with colored LEDs.

[@jaywalt1311]

My PlayHouse I was thinking that too but led tech has come a long way and there should be something suitable out there now maybe?

[@jusb1066]

with more than 1 led, its hard to get the focus, and well it wont be such a small bulb unit if you get it to focus at 1 point, so led converting it to look with the proper colours is going to be very hard i think.

[@RinoaL]

+Jay Walt i only have 1 screw and two washers left. i left the screw out because it was so difficult to remove, i left the two washers out because they put a bit too much stress on an axle assembly than i'd like. its not just random junk i forgot, its deliberate. +My Playhouse (Morten Hjorth) i dont think that will be much of an issue. there was a time when the only bulb i had for this projector had burnt out so i used a tiny old led flashlight to allow me to view film, just with the screen really close. it looked ok, but i think now with modern LEDs it'll look fine....unless you have defraction gratings over your eyes. haha +Jusb1066 i dont think the light has to come from a single point, otherwise they wouldnt have a light reflector around the bulb. i plan to use a tiny 10w led and crank it up a bit, and if not get a 100w led and run it through some lenses to make the beam narrower.

[@victormora1378]

Excelente

[@MrFsandt]

By not using nylon parts, the Victor were more reliable using steel and ambatex gears in this main distribution system.

[@CV2200A]

Hopefully, since you made this video, you figured out how use the film auto-load so you don't have to manually thread the projector. Use the cutter on the projector to make a nice straight cut to the film leader. Engage the auto-load then place in the film in the auto-load slot and start the projector. when the film comes out the back place the end in the take up reel and a gentle tug on the film will disengage the auto-load.

[@RinoaL]

this doesnt have the auto load feature, but my other one does. they ar emore likely to damage the film.

[@Sunsetdrivein]

The 1535 is strictly a manual thread model. The 1552 model is an autoload projector.

[@mfessi]

Oh german audio... have thought there is another video playing in the background. ;) Greetings from Austria!

[@RinoaL]

haha, greetings from illinois :D

[@Sunsetdrivein]

The worm gear part number is 012666. When replacing, be sure to apply fresh grease to the new gear or else the gear will get ground into dust in short order! You can use Super Lube Synthetic Grease item # 21030 available at most auto parts and tool supply stores.

[@RobBob555]

useful info thanks !

[@Ampex196]

Yes, always apply fresh grease....but if the new gear is an original type it will split regardless.

[@alpfaff8747]

do you have a video for changing the belt on this model?

[@RinoaL]

Hrmm, I do not. I've always been lucky enough to be able to take the belts and flip them inside out in order to run them on the outside portion giving them another chapter of usefulness.

[@mediacoregroupph]

My father found a japanese super8 projector at a japanese bargain surplus store for 20 bucks! comes with an action packed home movie!

[@RinoaL]

+mediacoregroupph 20$? thats pretty high in my opinion. i issually dont buy 8mm projectors if they are over 8$ or so. but if it came with films and is your first, then that sounds better.

[@mediacoregroupph]

I wish we had a direct vintage market, come to think of it, it may be 8 dollars when the importer bought it, despite being in exellent condition, and having an extra bulb. How they buy their stock is a mystery.

[@RinoaL]

mediacoregroupph what exactly makes it's importation special, when almost all home projectors are from japan? do you mean it was designed for a Japanese market?

[@mediacoregroupph]

yes.

[@ScienceShed1]

How do you stop the screwdriver from slipping and ruining your screws?

[@RinoaL]

define "ruin" please.

[@ScienceShed1]

well, when taking a screw out of a computer or what ever, sometimes it can slip and take the shape out of the screw head. then you can't undo the screw because its lost its shape? do you know what I mean? how o you prevent that from happening?

[@RinoaL]

Science Shed well thats a symptom of bad screw, most of the screws in this projector are really strong metal and are very difficult to ruin. i think the best option is find a screwdriver that fits better, so theres more surface area contacting the screw fitting, and apply more pressure. and also go more slowly so if you notice it popping up you go back a bit.

[@Sunsetdrivein]

Most of the screws in the projector are either 1/4" hex head, 3/16" head head, straight slot, phillips, or Bristol head. All screws in Bell & Howell projectors (through the 2500 series) are American made.

[@jackjowett902]

I'm planning on fixing a projector like this myself, but I am worried I don't have the right tools for it. What were the tools you used?

[@RinoaL]

+Jack Jowett im pretty sure i showed all the tools in this video, the most inportant being patience.

[@ChuckMaureen]

Excellent work! You knew enough to keep the shutter / cam timing intact. I suspect many individuals wouldn't attempt such an endeavor but they miss out on the feeling of satisfaction after such a successful repair. You can improve the audio quality by focusing the light beam... the lens assembly (small black cylinder) is mounted just to the right of the capstan. Slightly loosen the one end of the mount. Run a film with known-good audio track and while listening to the audio adjust the lens ever so slightly, both lateral (left-right-left) and radial (spin). A radial adjust aligns the lens reticle to parallel the light beam to the audio track and lateral to focus the light beam to its narrowest. Gently tighten the mount after adjustment. I used to service projectors for a living including B&H, Singer, Kodak, Kalart Victor, Eiki, Elmo and others. We had the worm gear repair time down to 45 minutes, including other alignments and pre- and post-test... an efficiency that comes only with repetitive effort. Again... excellent work!

[@RinoaL]

thanks! and i have 2 more to do now so i might get pretty fast at it also. and yeah i know about focusing the audio, i figured that out a few years ago and it helped a lot. thanks though. also i bet having the right tools heped you guys a lot, not having the right tool for this job added probably 6 hours of work

[@ChuckMaureen]

Absolutely! It's always easier when you have the right tools for any job.

[@speakerrepairingwithanil1717]

16 mm good 📽️ projector

[@pointbky]

how does the projector decyper the audio from tape? is that what the holes on the sides of the tape are for?

[@DeathbyDusk]

No, the audio is called Sound-on-Film. Its analog audio recorded directly on the film. Its read from the film using an exciter bulb and a photosensitive element. Beyond that and knowing its called an Exciter I have no goddamn idea how it works.

[@pointbky]

Maliciously Delicious thanks man, I didn't know what the technology was called and your comment helped me find a video explaining it. essentially there is a small film reel containing audio waveform silhouettes running parallel to the film containing the video. they are both exposed to the same bulb of light and the film reel containing the audio waves only allow a certain amount of light to come through the waves silhouette. this light hits a light sensor that sends an electric current to the speakers at varying frequencies. obviously my explanation is a bit over simplified but that's the general gist

[@skycarl]

The holes on the film are used by geared sprockets that pull the film through the projector. They keep the timing steady on.

[@RinoaL]

+Brian Ullmark this projector is mono sound but some of the films i have are stereo.

[@chillcomputerguy]

Where did you get that worm gear?

[@RinoaL]

Ebay

[@ExStaticBass]

Now you need some projectionists gloves. They aren't expensive and they prevent you from damaging the film with finger oils. Their also good for handling other optics.

[@RinoaL]

yeah i was thinking about that.

[@ExStaticBass]

Honestly you might want to do more than think about it. The acids in your finger oil can cause the acetate in the film to spontaneously combust. It can also degrade the images on the film. While this isn't as much of a danger as the combustion, it can still ruin films. Let's face it, those are hard to get these days. Also, you might want to save desicant packs from various containers like new electronics and pill bottles. If you put them in the can with the film that can further protect them. Acetate is a anaerobic substance. If any moisture is present it can destroy the film. This process is exothermic too which can also start fires. I would have said all this in my previous comment but I wanted to verify it first. I'm sure you can understand the want for being correct before passing information to others. While there are things that I'm OK with being mistaken on, this wasn't one of them. I hope this helps you stay safe and have great movies to watch until your a ripe old age. Again, Thanks for the great content.

[@RinoaL]

ExStatic Bass i have to think about something before i can do it, and i do a lot of things i think about. just FYI. when i say "i'm thinking" about something, i mean like i'm thinking about what to do, not if i should do it. like ussually if i say that it means i've already spent several hours googling what others use and seeing what selection various stores sell. every project goes through that phase. i'm currently looking into building a vacuum chamber to boil off any water in a film, then i can store them in a deep freezer for preservation. i will test it with one of the older acetate films i have, or maybe with the really far-gone copy i have of The Balcony.

[@MrCoconutcat]

What tools do I need to fix mine, what are the specific tools i need

[@RinoaL]

idk, whatever you need

[@MrCoconutcat]

@@RinoaL what tools did you use, I watched your video but you didn't say what tools you used

[@terry4265]

Well I find you amazing. If you had of taken that to the Shop and had it repaired it would have probably cost you at least $ 300.00 or more. According to how many hours it took you to do it. That was quiet the project. I am like you on that. I love to repair stuff and I'm very patient. That was a great video. Really enjoyed it. By the way. How long did it take you to do that ????????????? :)

[@RinoaL]

it took me about 9 hours the first evening then like 4-5 hours the next morning. :p

[@terry4265]

Wow !!! That is a lot of hours but myself I would have really enjoyed it. Love doing stuff like that. Great Video for sure. :)

[@Sunsetdrivein]

I've done lots of these projectors over the past 45 years. If the projector is really clean with low use, it averages me about 3 hours to do a worm gear replacement and service. If the projector is really dirty and it had lots of hours on it, it took me an average of 8 hours.

[@rufinogomesdearaujo328]

A minha paixão desde jovem.. tenho vários. 16mm super 8mm e 35mm e a manutenção é comigo mesmo.

[@kristy6597]

Will it help the video if you have a different cooler on the wall???

[@RinoaL]

you mean for projecting the image onto it? the best thing you could project onto would be a rough silver coated surface. thats why movie theaters are called "the silver screen". the rough silvered surface helps reflect a lot of light by it also scatters it while doing that and allows a lot of people to watch the film using less light.

[@kristy6597]

Rinoa Super-Genius awesome

[@richg.2579]

Haha spare parts and it still works

[@amberola1b]

That is a pain in the butt having to dismantle the whole project or just to get to that worm gear. But after watching you do it I think I'm going to try it on my bell and Howell model 1585. I think I can do it. Lol. Thanks for the video.

[@RinoaL]

if you have issues putting it back together, i recommend pretending that your inventing it for the first time. study it really well while your taking it apart and what parts go where should be self-evident. when i have issues with reassembly i pretend i just magically happen to have all the parts i need to make my invention, and that brain trick seems to resolve the issues of trying to just rely on your memory. make sure to take your time with this.

[@amberola1b]

Just wanted to send you an update on my B&H 1585 that i told you about that i was going to try and change out the gear. I bought the replacement on eBay and tore the whole projector apart to get to the drive train, replaced it and it works great. So thanks for the video. I DID IT. 😁

[@Sunsetdrivein]

If you think that's bad, try changing the worm gear in Kodak super 8 projectors or Kodak Carousel slide projectors.

[@adamtorres109]

Did you ever install a LED bulb?

[@RinoaL]

not yet.

[@NickFaina]

could you perhaps link where you purchased the worm gear

[@RinoaL]

no, search it yourself.

[@NickFaina]

Rinoa Super-Genius i did

[@shanefleming9104]

we cannot find it please help us b0ss

[@RinoaL]

well then if you did search, why waste my time?

[@NickFaina]

Rinoa Super-Genius because im trying to get a little help finding it, did you get it from ebay

[@pvsmith]

Are you still repairing projectors?

[@RinoaL]

yeah i have a few more to do, the next project regarding 16mm film is to convert a projector into a high quality digitizer to convert film. i dont repair them for others yet, but if you live near hillsboro illinois and want to drop off a projector for repair, i could maybe find time to do it. i dont want to deal with mailing projectors, already did that once lol

[@adrianagenel]

Hello, where can I buy that piece?

[@RinoaL]

+Adriana Genel ebay

[@adrianagenel]

I can not find it, what's the name of the piece?

[@adrianagenel]

I can not find it, what's the name of the piece?

[@Sunsetdrivein]

The reproduction worm gear # 012666 is available from Larry Urbanski www.urbanskifilm.com/ and Richard Patchett www.rcsclassic16mm.com/ You can also buy the full service and parts manuals from them too. Service manual details the disassembly/re-assembly procedures.

[@kristy6597]

Is there a jack for your own speakers at all???

[@RinoaL]

yeah but its a funky jack form the 1970s. when i want to get audio from it for a film-to-digital recovery i just wire my laptop directly up to the speaker.

[@Sunsetdrivein]

Yes on the rear cover is an external speaker jack. However, at the time these projectors were made, Bell & Howell used a smaller than 1/4" jack (some call it a 3/16" jack) made by Switchcraft. Larry Urbanski sells the correct modern conventional 1/4" jack. www.urbanskifilm.com/

[@tinicum54]

LOL. Good job, but, my boss would have shot me for your procedure.

[@tinicum54]

@@RobBob555 Okay, keep thinking about "COCKS"

[@tinicum54]

@@RobBob555 It's noisy as hell, the timing of the claw assembly is ticking away because it is maladjusted. That will destroy the film as it pulls away at pieces of the sprocket holes in the film, LOL, PUSSY.

[@Phantom0309]

major disassembly for 1 small worm gear, now at least you know better how the whole thing works for future repairs

[@RinoaL]

yeah, it's at the heart of the assembly. but it could be avoided if i had a special tool that could reach around the motor and undo those bols. i tore it down just for 2 bolts, haha

[@jeffreyhickman3871]

Like 👍 the slow 🐌 motion noise 👎. 2:10. Your friend, Jeff.

[@danjason2167]

you got this a decade ago. How old are you?

[@RinoaL]

23

[@kristy6597]

How much power can It run off

[@RinoaL]

it requires 120v AC and like 350 watts of power. 250w of that goes to the lamp.

[@consciousuniverse2095]

Wow looks like surgery! So much effort too.at least it was a success. Normally when i mess with stuff the results are less perfect. I hope it gives u years of enjoyment and a boner!

[@Noodleude]

I've got a Kodak Pageant that is very similar to this.

[@RinoaL]

wow really? does it work? :D

[@Noodleude]

yep, It works great. It's in great condition too. My grandfather used to be a biology teacher, and when he retired, he was given the projector and a whole bunch of science films.

[@RinoaL]

Avery l wow thats really cool. i hope you keep the films in a cool place to preserve them.

[@Noodleude]

they are in plastic canisters, in my basement, I think they'll be fine ;)

[@RinoaL]

Avery l cool, i think i'm gonna start freezing my film. ^^

[@CrazyTobster]

There is way too much oil on those cogs I suspect somebody's done that without knowing better. I suspect there was nothing wrong with the worm gear it just needed a very good clean. I would ask you to keep the history, there would be no benefit to changing the light to an LCD one. Why do that when those lights are very common in people's homes? You can just go to a home improvement store pick one up, they are very cheap. Using an LCD light will not improve the picture quality, will destroy history and lower the price of the projector. I certainly would not buy it if it had an LCD light. Think about future generations as well and how they would see it. The light you got in there at the moment should last forever pretty much a few decades at least depending on how much you use it. You have done a good jobs. You should be very proud of yourself. :-)

[@RinoaL]

nothing wrong with the worm gear? are you blind? it was cracked in half and about to shatter. i think you mean "LED" not "LCD", but an LED would have many improvements. it would use far less power and not require the loud fan to cool it. those projector bulbs are getting pretty expensive and difficult to find, they havent made them for like 30 years. an LED wont destroy anything, and nobody fucking cares about the value of the projector. the world isnt about money, stop being so fucking self-entitled. I've already burned several bulbs, they are only rated for 10 hours or use, so basicly a few movies and then the bulb pops. but thanks, i guess.

[@CrazyTobster]

My projector uses these types of lights. Just a quick Google. I hadn't checked the wattage: www.homebase.co.uk/en/homebaseuk/halogen-gu10-40w-bulb---pack-of-6-343086 Changing the light to an LED one will lose the history and if everyone does it there be no original projectors left. The light you have should last forever. You just need to change where you are buying them from bro. I wasn't with you mate, if the part needed to be replaced, it needed to be replaced. Those corks do have to much oil. I know this because I made the same mistake. The predictive text on my phone changed 'LED' to 'LCD' I shouldn't use my phone for KZbin I'm just too lazy to turn my laptop on. :-)

[@RinoaL]

god your thick, you really dont have any clue what your talking about do you? i will say again what i have already said, these bulbs havent been made for like 30 years and they are only rated for 10 hours each. they are 250 watt bulbs. replacing with LED will not lose the history, stop being such a purist. and as for the worm gear, i show in the video that it is cracked down the middle.

[@CrazyTobster]

I'm telling you there halogen bulb in my projector. you call thick mate but at the end of the day I'm not the one who is feeding film through without a film leader cemented to the film.

[@RinoaL]

we arent talking about your projector, and not all projectors are the same. you cant use film cement on all film types btw.

[@Thedarkslender]

OMG VITRUVIUS MC DONALDS CUP 9:24 I HAVE THEM!

[@fredlllll]

how did you get your hands on a german movie? XD

[@RinoaL]

it was 5$ on ebay, i couldnt pass it up. it was from university in like Ohio or whatever. i hope for it to be the start of the german section of my film collection. although i really need to learn more because at this point when i watch this film i understand like 1/3rd of the word now and it fucks with me couse im trying to listen more than enjoy the film. lol

[@fredlllll]

good luck with learning then :P and have fun with learning what article belongs to what

[@RinoaL]

fredlllll i'm not finding the articles too difficult anymore, but i have a book i'm writing in thats full of my known vocabulary and their articles, then scribbles and diagrams of how i rationalize it to myself, it might be interesting to look through it latter. like the process of learning a language. i'm finding its far easier to learn than japanese. a lot funner too.

[@David39151]

were did you find flim

[@RinoaL]

at stores and on the internet

[@David39151]

Ok cuz I have one but couldn't findany

[@RinoaL]

David LuBrant have one what? one film or one projector?

[@David39151]

Rinoa Super-Genius projeter

[@RinoaL]

David LuBrant 8mm or 16? just check ebay

[@riyazsheikh3691]

How much this projector

[@RinoaL]

35lb

[@riyazsheikh3691]

Ok

[@fredroper398]

wish i could find someone to fix my machine

[@RinoaL]

+Fred Roper where do you live?

[@fredroper398]

live canada i,m on facebook have a padjent projector in the shop amp had a blown capacitor the padjent has its good points but amp bad design i see bell and howell has a bit of everything kodak sat on the fence so long before making changes

[@Sunsetdrivein]

Richard Patchett in Michigan repairs Kodak Pageant and Bell & Howell 16mm projectors. www.rcsclassic16mm.com/

[@rameshbharakhada5497]

Iam apriciat being a lady is interested in projector

[@mohammedmoomin7345]

I am India I have 3 projecter like this But all r in the same problem Very worst projecter

[@farukhsheikh1638]

Oldgold.sandar.yade

[@DoodNeko]

Another video with the camera on top of the maker's head! Sea sick pretty fast. Had to quit watching. Just not worth being nauseated.

[@RinoaL]

Good riddance

[@tinicum54]

A joke, I wonder id he knows those C-clips have a beveled side that has to face, I aint saying. He is a fool, it is chattering after repair, tearing thye film apart..Claw mechanism is way off.

[@RinoaL]

no it isnt

[@tinicum54]

Shit repair. He is too stupid to properly properly tear down that unit. This is a HORRIBLE example of repair. The claw mechanism is still "Chattering" after this debacle.

[@RinoaL]

then shut the fuck up, stop complaining like a useless child, gather your tools and projector, and film a better video.