Unboxing and Using an Apple iBook G3 Today

[@danwood_uk]

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[@agomezjunco]

My father in law has been using the same iMac since 2003 every day without a hitch. 19 years and running… they are that good.

[@TransCanadaPhil]

A funny thing about being in your mid 40s in 2022 is that it’s really weird when something from 2001 is thought of as vintage or nostalgic. I was already in my mid 20s by 2001 with broadband internet access; in my mind anything that has happened within the 21st century feels pretty modern and “just a few years ago” 😁

[@aycc-nbh7289]

Or maybe it’s because computing hardware and software continuously evolve and quickly render older versions of themselves obsolete.

[@Sr_iRL]

To me cars anything before 60s is vintage, that through 85 is classic. Technology anything before 2010 is already vintage

[@trismegistus2881]

For me anything from 2009 or later seems quite modern, but the computers of that time are also pretty ancient by now.

[@TransCanadaPhil]

@@trismegistus2881 for my file server, plex server I’m still using an old 2012 machine I built for that purpose running Linux Mint. Still works fine for streaming 4K video to all my Apple TVs in the house. That’s mostly a Linux thing though as it tends not to enforce any kind of planned obsolescence.

[@NMM3TVEntertainment2015]

4:10 sound setreo 🪰🪰🪰

[@glenogaitnas1]

that freaking fly scared the soul out of me!!! lol 😂 I was flapping my arms around

[@jeremylee657]

This is wild, I just recently bought an iBook G3 Dual-USB model myself, specifically for running OS9 and older games on, so it's wonderful to see someone like Dan giving love to this!

[@thavith]

I don't think the date was 1 day out, I believe it was correct. As you mentioned, the machine came from Victoria in Australia. It is 10 hours ahead of you guys in England, so if you shot that video on Thursday night your time, it would have been Friday morning in Australia. If you had checked system prefs, you would have noticed the timezone was still set to Melbourne I guess... I had a Bondi blue iMac from around that time (got it in 1998) and loved it. I remember getting the Mac OS X beta for it (still have the disc and envelope around here somewhere). I even put Yellow Dog Linux on it at one point. One of the best laptops back then was the Titanium G4 laptop. I remember spending close to AUD$4000 for it which was (and still is) a lot of money. Love it so much. One day the hinge on it broke, but I still used it with the broken screen for another year or so... Having said all that, the best Mac I've ever owned is my current M1 Mac Mini, so even though looking back is great, right now is pretty cool too!!!

[@toadster40]

This, was just about to comment that the time is probably correct in Australia. Beat me to the punch there Dave.

[@kirishima638]

I still have and use my iBook G3 bought in 2002. It’s the 700mhz version. It got me through college. Works perfectly. It survived multiple house moves and was almost disposed of on several occasions. I’m glad I still have it. It’s not surprising that OS9 enjoys so much support. No one cares about early versions of OSX.

[@F_I_J_I_W_A_T_E_R]

The exception to that is 10.4, which gets a lot of support and custom software.

[@kirishima638]

@@F_I_J_I_W_A_T_E_R Probably because Tiger was the first version of OSX that was really usable and was on par with OS9 for performance. It was also the first version that supported intel CPUs. Previous versions of OSX were pretty but horrible to use. The beach ball of death was a common issue.

[@nuggerboy8151]

a good laptop owner.

[@jonarment1229]

The iBook G3, was not only my first laptop, but it was the first computer that was just for me. I loved that computer. I can still remember the very unique smell that it had when I unboxed it. A few years later I broke a hinge, and bought a new PC shortly after to replace it, but I still my original Mac. Recently I was feeling nostalgic, and went shopping for a G3 in good condition on eBay, and I was shocked at how much people were asking for them. They seemed to all be in the $130+ range, which was WAY more than I was willing to spend. Then, about 2 weeks ago, I came across an auction for one that seemed to be in good shape, and I ended up being the only bidder paying $29 + $11 shipping. When I got it, it was almost mint and came with a battery that can hold a charge for maybe 2 or 3 hours. I'm so happy that I lucked out! Thank you so much for uploading this video showing the original box and paperwork that came with it! You took me on a trip down memory lane, and it really put a big smile on my face. I'm so sorry DHL did that to that beautiful box. I hope the seller at least offered to give you a discount for what was very clearly their poor judgement.

[@meanwhileinbrighton8825]

Still using a 1999 Black PowerBook G3 (Pismo model) to play games. Battery is knackered so have to use on Mains power, but runs MacOS 9.2.2 with no problems

[@이렇9먼]

In our school, one of the exchange students from China uses iBook G3 in 2022. He installed Windows 7 instead of macOS on his laptop

[@finnisnotafish]

12:08 idk if anyone else has said this yet but youre in the UK and that laptop was made in Australia so it would be a day ahead because of time zones. whoever you bought it from was using it in Australia. the battery still had some juice and gave the right time technically

[@abi5347]

That’s what I thought too

[@FuZZbaLLbee]

I don’t know at what time you recorded this video, but it could be that the clock is still on Australian date

[@alexanderbuchler4048]

lol

[@TeddyB3ARGaming]

The fly scared the hell outta me, I thought it was in my room wtf

[@neuzethmusic131]

Got an old iBook G4 here, similar to the one I bought in I think, 2003. For me the worst thing today about this books is not that they are slow, but the display! Very dark, dull colours, really bad viewing angles. Hard to do anything besides word processing on such a screen. But I still like the nostalgia I get when I use such systems, makes me feel like im 20 again... 😂 Thanks for the vid, Dan!

[@transitengineer]

In my collection is a 12-inch Powerbook from around the same time frame as your iBook. I agree with you about the screen because, it always takes me about five (5) minutes for my over age 60 eyes to get used to it. With iLife '09, iWorks '09, and MS Office, I could use it for productivity tasks. However, it is used mostly for watching DVD's while away from home (smile...smile).

[@MmntechCa]

I had the 2005 model with the 1.33GHz G4. Loved that little laptop. Battery life in them was really unbeatable at the time. AND it had discrete graphics. But man that slow 40GB, 4,200rpm HDD they shipped with was Brutes McGoots even back then. Wasn't so bad running Tiger, but it was slow as molasses under Leopard. 2000s were really the peak of Apple laptops. M1s are nice, but they're ultimately disposable tech. There's a reason why I run a Framework now.

[@transitengineer]

@@MmntechCa Yes, you are so right about Apple laptop designs...from 1998 through 2008, they were truly outstanding. In addition, to my 12-inch G4 Powerbook my collection includes the last of the "Black and White" laptops a G3 Powerbook (Fire-wire) from the year 2000, plus an Intel MacBook Pro (with both a Fire-wire 400 port and a Fire-wire 800 port) from around the year 2007. Over the years my co-workers have asked me, when are you going to buy a modern laptop? And my reply is always the same, when Apple comes out with a good looking design (smile...smile).

[@RaysGamingChannel2003]

I have a iBook G4 from 2004 and a iBook G3 “snow” from 2001 and the screens are great

[@punkgrl325]

I still mess around with my iBook G4 from time to time, mostly for general browsing, watching youtube (TenFourFox), and watching old DVDs. Still got my copy of The Spongebob Movie inside it atm lol

[@Ryan_Revier]

you could use the earlier Magic Mouse 1 supports on macOS X v10.5.8 or later with Wireless Mouse Software Update 1.0 or Mac OS X v10.6.1 or later with Wireless Mouse Software Update 1.0..It uses two battery of AA sizes for it to runs.

[@patrick-jefferson]

I recently got an iBook G4 from an auction, looking like new. It can still connect to my 4K TV with the mini-vga to vga adapter giving a nice big display.

[@Dedicated2WendyWilliams]

LOVE these kinds of videos... the nostagia of the box and packaging the way the computer looks... its just amazing to watch

[@BODUKE3201]

My first laptop for myself (not shared with anyone) is my 2021 MacBook Pro i bought in march 2022.

[@fredbolger]

Thank you Dan for the video, loved it. I bought a similar model back in 2004 to test out Apple hardware and software and was so convinced that I switched to Apple completely. I still remember video editing with my daughter and her friends back home. I connected the firewire camera and started up iMovie2, then went to the kitchen to make some sandwiches and when I returned, the girls were almost done with the video. Great little machine.

[@markboyle9941]

I had the PowerBook G3 "Pismo" back in the day. IMO the best designed laptop that Apple ever made. Amazing reliability and flexibility (mine still works fine); with hot swappable drives I had an extra hard drive, a CD burner, dvd player, floppy and Zip drive as well. I could stick an extra battery in the spare bay to get 7 hours out of it. Wrote my PhD thesis on that thing!

[@EvilTurkeySlices]

I have a pismo, I don’t have any of the bay devices though.

[@Kyle-xv5kv]

I still have my OG clamshell G3, watching this made me dig it out and browse through it, I can't believe I used to take this thing to school back in the day.

[@Michael500ca]

The Apple IIc was the best hands down for the time period 1985. Affordable with largest library in the world. Then expandable to 640k which I did to mine with Applied Engineering Kit. The best to have back in that time.

[@rickkarrer8370]

Computer Now? More like Computer THEN. Thank you, I'll be here all day.

[@kjamison5951]

Very carefully, apply lighter fluid sparingly over that box and in a well ventilated space with no naked flames and you should be able to remove the label without damaging the box. You may also try it on the marker pen scrawlings. I have had very good results with lighter fluid. You could also try warming the label with a dry iron - steam setting to off. Then lighter fluid to remove any residual sticky glue. It doesn’t leave an oily mark like other petroleum based products. And it’s not as expensive as some ‘sticky stuff removing’ products.

[@CommodoreFan64]

I've had good luck with Goo Gone, and Goof Off, which are orange oil based, they aren't that expensive, nor flamible, or toxic, and a hair dryer on the shipping label works well also if you use to cooler setting, and take it slow.

[@gblargg]

I'd start with rubbing alcohol, putting just a little on a paper towel so it's slightly damp and lightly going over the surface. That takes off permanent marker and is the most gentle to start with.

[@PuroresuFan]

The music bit at 20:48 sounds a lot like the WCW Monday Nitro theme from 2000. I know it isn't but the beat is too similar bro lmaoooooo

[@PuroresuFan]

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[@burgerchild]

We had some of these in elementary school (I was very young, I had no idea what model or specs or anything) and this was very nostalgic!

[@jbar_85]

I was a junior in HS when this iBook came out. We were one of the first students to get them because we were in the Journalism class. It was nice!

[@rhapsody2612]

About it being hours ahead, that might be because the laptop was used in Australia, which is several hours ahead from the UK

[@Andie143lovesanime]

Unrelated but as I was watching your video with headphones on, I literally thought there was a fly around my head and it gave me a heart attack omg I hate their buzzing noises when it's near my ear lol

[@skjoldgames]

I love vintage Apple hardware too. I spotted that mid 2000's iMac keyboard in the background a few times. I have a late 90's one with the clear green plastic.

[@dbackscott]

My first laptop was one of those white iBook G3s. I loved that thing, especially how easy it was to access the memory for upgrades. I remember it being built like a tank, so opening it up to get to the main board, hard drive, etc. was an utter pain in the rear.

[@richardm123]

These have an interesting reputation around my town - they were the first laptops ever given to secondary school students in our county, and hence the first laptop that I really became accustomed to and "daily drove". The sad legacy it has left is that when they were replacing these computers with a newer model, they decide to sell them for ~$100 each. Demand was so high that there was a crush leading to the death of a few people.

[@RodrigoVazquez91]

The funny thing about that specific iBook (G3 Snow from 2001/02) is that the glue used in the keyboard used to get so hot, to the point that it gave off a sweat smell, in some cases too much stronger than others. I got one back in 2011 (just as a collector item), when the seller showed it to me, I thought the odor was just because of some dirt on the keyboard, I tried cleaning it with cleaning wipes, air duster, and some other ways, but nothing worked, it used to smell so bad that even the people around me in the same room could detect the smell. So, I did a research online, just to see if someone else was having the same issue I had, and I found out I was not alone, there were so many other cases in reddit of people with iBooks with that exactly same funny smell.

[@andreasschmidt2979]

Wow! Didn't know that. I also got a g3/600 ibook and thought it was my stink from using it so much back in the day. Thanks for this info! I still use it sometimes for os 9.2 nostalgia, MAME or opening old cubase files.

[@TechnologyNToys]

I’ve got one myself, but the backlight crapped the bed (seems to be a common thing tho), and like half the keys don’t work. Thinking of tearing it apart and building something like a cross between an iMac G3 and iMac G5. My working name for the project is “iMac G3.5”

[@mrgrumpy888]

16:47 I always thought that it was Mac OS 9 Lives, as in "it lives".

[@danwood_uk]

Ah maybe. I thought it was a pun on a cat having 9 lives, like it can’t be killed.

[@40percentyt]

I genuinely found out by mistake using a CD Lens cleaner that Mac OS 9's iTunes can still connect to CD database services and fetch metadata. It got tags and everything for a *no brand CD Cleaner*

[@keithsweat7513]

This is great:) I remember my unboxing starting with my 140, 540c, 1400c, Wallstreet (Lombard) G3, Ti, PB G4 17" and 15" unibody.... an Apple unboxing is an experience, they do packaging better than a jeweler, the cables flow like liquid.. art and beauty

[@nightw4tchman]

This was the first Mac I had for my own personal use. It was already very old by that point but god it was nice to play Squirrel Kombat again.

[@krissjacobsen9434]

One of my daily drivers is a Power Macintosh 6500 from 1997. If it weren't for the overly bloated internet, most people would get by using 20-25 year old computers just fine.

[@dmitryvorobyev1986]

Never had experience with iBook's in past, but recently I bought G4 in top configuration. I was searching for ultimate retro laptop for games and after I found it I've started colleting laptops that can close some gaming niches I had. With iBook G4 I can play classic apple games (though trough emulation) and some newer titles like Unreal, StarCraft and so on. Really happy with the device :)

[@RobReynolds]

If you accidentally write on a dry wipe board with a permanent marker, you can usually clean it off by going over the permanent pen with a dry wipe marker and then wiping it off. The dry wipe markers have thinners mixed in with the ink (or something like that) so they can be cleaned off. Might be worth a try on your box

[@-nobodycares-1457]

I always have found memories of apple products.

[@davedegroot9944]

The G3 Snow iBook was the very first Mac I owned. It lasted 7 years before various hardware failures meant it had to be retired.

[@b0tterman]

I loved my iBook. Had the clam shell and then the white one. great machines.

[@CommodoreFan64]

My first laptop was a hand me down I got from my aunt in 1990 who was a court reporter(she was upgrading to a custom lunch box 386 PC on wheels for her work) , and it's a Zenith DataSystems 286e SuperSport with a B/W screen running DOS 4, and Letter Perfect, and it still has one of the best laptop keyboards I've ever used with baby blue Alps switches, I still have it in my collection BTW, but I need to find a new PSU for it, along with going through, and checking all the old caps, and such. These days I have to admit I've gotten away from laptops, and into Android tablets for their lower cost with my latest being a Nokia T20, that does everything I need a portable device to do when paired with a Logitech K480 Bluetooth keyboard including office work via Google Docs, web browsing, KZbin, gaming(mostly old school emulation), email, etc., and unless I ever start doing heavy video/audio/photo editing on the go, then I can't see myself going back to a laptop anytime soon for my portable computing needs.

[@DestinationFawked]

I see your amazon echo spot has the same weird LCD glitch as all 5 of my echo spots

[@danwood_uk]

Yeah annoying isn’t it? Looks like it’s a major design flaw with them. Probably why they discontinued it, which is a shame as I like the form factor

[@Nohope__]

I wish apple still would have considered adding Accessories like it uses to do. I mean It used to come with a mouse ,my mac 2020 doesn’t even have enough ports on it.

[@ktb]

Why didn't you buy the clamshell?

[@lukemyers4595]

It's probably not a couple hours out but set to an Australian time zone. Very cool find!

[@Hellwyck]

I notice you didn't blank out the last user's name from the menu when you re-booted to install OS9.

[@thesmokingcap]

Very minty! It's not often you can find them in this condition. It would have taken a while to find this example!

[@V1VISECT6]

I used to have that MacAlly mouse but it was green. I also had the keyboard with it too, wasn't bad. Better than the hockey puck mouse.

[@clickpond7825]

Great video man! Loved it! Still have an iBook G4 that I use quite frequently for retro gaming, namely Quake III Arena.

[@bobfromsoireegames4309]

Great video Dan. Amazing computer. I still use my Power Mac G3

[@terosaarela4555]

Thanks for the video! I have an iBook G4 myself that I bought solely because I like the design language of that era iBooks. It’s actually quite handy for transferring data onto my XT PC and my Mac Classic.

[@CAMILOH]

Interesting video mate 👍🏼

[@Eyeball-Industries]

great video exploration! My first laptop was a PowerBook 180c with a color screen. When I moved from California to Prague, I bought a Wallstreet with the full accessories and carry case (PowerBook G3). Weighed a ton, and I still have it! When I moved to Singapore, I got a iBook G4 14" and it was a real workhorse until I got my Mac mini Server (Mid 2011) and an iPad. Now I don't use laptops, but bought my son one a year ago and it serves him well... look forward to checking out more of your vids../

[@mcirone]

My first laptop (got it right when I went to college) was the 2006 15” MacBook Pro - I believe it was the first intel model. Ahh, memories.

[@stevec.5638]

Old, but Gold!!

[@catriona_drummond]

My first ever Laptop was an IBM Thinkpad T23. With a Pentium 3 inside, i think 800 MHz or so. Very nice machine.

[@terrydaktyllus1320]

I just posted about my T22 and "distraction free computing" so agree fully. As I do repair and rebuild a lot of Thinkpads, I do also have a T23 that does boot, I just need to clean it and install Linux onto an SSD for it, then I will enjoy using that too. Both machines have great keyboards.

[@kjamison5951]

My first portable computer was an Olivetti Quaderno. It was very basic but it had some built-in applications that ran in the 1MB of RAM on the 20MB HDD. It also had QBasic and I coded stuff for helping me at work. My first laptop was a second hand iBook G4 followed by a second hand MacBook DC, both in white. My most current is my 2015 MBP which still runs great.

[@undeadtotheend6420]

Small world - I used to live not far from that shop on Malvern Road - remember it. Although these days moved to Nottingham UK.

[@Heidegaff]

4:10 thank you mate, I needed that jumpscare.

[@feywerfolevado6286]

ohmygod I used to own ALL of the models of iBooks when they came out - I absolutely loved them! I miss my clamshell iBook :(

[@bigblackearl6852]

I still have my old orange clamshell but sadly the drive is fucked it wont boot

[@Wrynard]

I never had a Mac But this is beautiful :D

[@BilisNegra]

Wait... Did you get to own an Amiga, an ST -AND- an Archimedes when a youngster?? What a lucky guy.

[@005AGIMA]

Ouch at the lack of packaging. Good to see the Australian version came with a fly. Traditionally it should have about 20 flies that never leave your face, but one is better than none. Truely Australian unit there.

[@mattmiller2761]

Still have my 2001 Powerbook G4 and the first Gen. iPod I bought with it. They both still work. Finding a working browser is a problem though.

[@chicagocarless]

I remember mine super fondly. I remember it being nicknamed IceBook.

[@ilikemyrealname]

That was awesome! My first was a Sony Viao from the late 90’s.

[@ms_enj]

Hahaha, both of my iPods came from that very store, back when I was working in the Melbourne CBD. They were still in business in late 2006 when I got the second iPod.

[@Tall_Order]

I have this exact model. It doesn't work anymore because I slightly bumped it, and it never booted after that... And the keyboard smells like some sort of terrible stale hot pocket mixed with armpit. Something about the adhesive. I replaced the keyboard and the replacement smelled like it too.

[@Tall_Order]

The smell gets worse once the processor heats up. lol

[@ronhutcherson9845]

Bad capacitors can smell like that.

[@Tall_Order]

@@ronhutcherson9845Perhaps, but from what I read on ifixit it's a common problem with the adhesive that holds the instructions on the back side of the keyboard. But even after pealing that off it still stunk. Maybe its something else.

[@witnesspropro]

Old machines are a good distraction free way of word processing? You could just disable WIFI on a modern laptop.

[@jackilynpyzocha662]

This is fun! Great screen background!

[@pete8475]

4:09 - I'm using headphones and when that bug buzzed the mic I actually ducked!

[@danwood_uk]

Haha sorry. I added a sound effect, didn’t spot him until after I’d recorded but though it was funny.

[@dmc716]

same here :)

[@nneeerrrd]

​@@danwood_uk not really...

[@ax_lz]

@@nneeerrrd it was kinda funny

[@mrparts]

I had that same machine…I loved it… first version of OS X and the old System 9.

[@Wrynard]

My first ever laptop... well netbook was a white Acer Inspire One with Windows 7 Starter and Android 3 Honeycomb on dualboot. I remember installing loads of programs from Softonic and ultimately breaking my operating system.

[@jim_bocho]

The 12“ iBook G3 800mhz was also my first new laptop I ever bought, for my 18th birthday back in 2003. It replaced a Thinkpad 760EL with a 120mhz Pentium, so quite the jump.

[@meropealcyone]

Throw MacMAME on that bad boy and enjoy some 80s arcade action!

[@Niko_KRC]

I actually used an iBook G3 500 that i got for 5€ back in high school in 2019, with a maximum ram upgrade it’s completely usable with Office 2004 and basic 3D games like open arena or some older 2D games like Heroes of might and magic 3 and without internet it was actually not distractive to do other things than school stuff ;)

[@ronhutcherson9845]

With those Australian models does the hard drive spin backwards? 😄

[@jiff2323]

I agree. I would of been peeved about the box for sure.

[@kevindavis3010]

Now I would be interested what kind of Linux you could run on that creature!

[@creounity]

The set of ports was awesome, unlike these days...

[@av_oid]

Could use a standard IEC c5 cable with the power supply. Though the power supply will be sideways :). The iBook g4 power supply also works and It uses the standard “modern” Apple power supply cord connector.

[@bsdjunkie1805]

The WPA issue is not the Airport card but the fact that OS9 will only support WEP

[@RaysGamingChannel2003]

Yeah

[@olekspiewak5132]

i just got myself one, A1005 model. tell me, how can i hard reset it and maybe get it to actually running

[@richardkoerper1630]

I also have a white iBook G3, an iBook G4, a Powerbook G4, All in working condition. Also a few other Power Pc Macs.

[@UpLateGeek]

Oh hey, speaking of the hockey puck power supply, I bought a Lombard G3 Powerbook from the UK that came with the hockey puck power supply and a UK power cable, whereas I really need an Australian power cable. I'm like your antipodal twin or something.

[@KC-kp4vh]

I’m 28, I can’t imagine what I value this amazing iBook with everything. I’d probably go… $200 and I’d tell them to double box it. I picked up a full Apple ii GS 2 years ago for I think $350. (I mean, monitor, computer, floppy drive, and printer) Maybe I paid too much at the pawnshop, but it still works and I love it for the history)

[@StiffPeak]

My first Mac laptop was a PowerBook G3/333, it came with OS8 but amazingly it can go up to OSX 10.3.9 still have it, but for my OS 9 fix I just recently found out there’s a custom build for the first gen Mac mini, it’s unfortunate that it didn’t officially ship with that OS as it feels like it was designed for it, definitely performs so much better, check it out!

[@biotrekker]

The way I found to use WiFi on an iBook G3 with modern WPA security is with a First Gen Airport Express (A1264) which I set up with a modern Mac and then connected to the ibook via ethernet.

[@leila3179]

I almost died at 4:10 , i was using headphones and thought i had a fly inside me head

[@sandrodellisanti1139]

Beautiful Computer.. my first Apple Computer was a Powermac 7200 in 2002..many greetings from Brunswick in Germany 🙂

[@stevejr777]

My first laptop was a TRS-80 Model 100 but the first time I used OS9 was on a TRS80 Color computer 3!

[@andljoy]

Old laptops just have amazing keyboards. I have an x61s that i still use from time to time. I got a new old stock US keyboard for it recently , its just fantastic. Its also quite amazing that my core2duo macbook shipped with tiger and tiger also runs on that G3 .... amazing. It went all the way up to lion , crazy ! (even tho snow leopard was the best OS apple ever made ) i stuck with that till it retired and got replaced with the x61s :) ( runs better with linux and better built. )

[@terrydaktyllus1320]

I have an X61 and X61s (not sure I remember what the difference is between the two!) and they are great little machines - though I only use them with Gentoo Linux these days.

[@bibasik7]

I have a few Core 2 Duo MacBooks as well! One of them is the unibody version with the rubber bottom, the others are the old design. The unibody MacBook is still very usable today with macOS High Sierra, as it works with the latest version of Firefox and Brave browser. They can also run Linux, but the 2009-2010 models have nvidia GPUs, which limits my choice. I can use Linux Mint 20.3 with the nvidia graphics driver, but I won't be able to upgrade to Linux Mint 21 because the nvidia driver does not support newer versions of the Linux kernel. My other option is Fedora, which is the only distro I've found that is stable with the open source nouveau graphics drivers.

[@369jwillow]

What a flabbergasting clip and factoid about the IE on Mac OS 9! Thank you, and I don't think most anyone is privy to that!

[@xnonsuchx]

My first laptop was a used Dell Latitude C600 (I think US$300 or so in 2004). The first (and only) laptop I’ve purchased new was a mid-2014 13” MacBook Pro and is still my main laptop.