Low Cost - High Performance: MSI BRAVO 15 Review

[@TechGuyBeau]

Correction: during the teardown I said 7535hs for some reason. The specs I said at the intro are proper.

[@vynz4366]

I bought the C7U variant, which had the RTX 2050. This is my first big purchase of my entire life and its really worth it, I just hope the build quality and the hinges do not break on me 10 years from now lol

[@TechGuyBeau]

Nice enjoy! Feels good to get something substantial that you have been waiting for :)

[@ThatAries321]

So, I bought the Bravo 15 D, I believe it's the 2020 model and I have had no issues with the hinges so far and I have had it since 2021 and the only issue I ran into was that one of the fans wasn't working, brought it to a friend who knew more about computers than I do and it turns out they didn't plug the fan in or if they did it got unplugged at some point in shipping between facilities

[@ThatAries321]

My only complaint I have about my version is that it doesn't come with two RAM slots

[@5me.n]

How are you, brother? How is the device performing for you after this period of testing?

[@vynz4366]

@@5me.n oh yea its good, my only concern before was that the top of the chassis is hot but I researched and found out that Ryzen CPU can reach 95© and they should still be fine, but I lowered the power so it wouldnt always hit that mark. Overall its a good budget lappy go for the 4050 Variant if you have more budget

[@siyzerix]

You forgot the best part of MSI laptops. The open advanced bios. This can let you do the IMON tweak, leading the CPU and GPU to use their max TDP's even if both are loaded. It can also let you potentially undervolt locked CPU's like the i7 12650h via the AC loadline tweak. I did these tweaks in my nitro 5. In CP2077 my 3070ti used to struggle to pull more than 125w when the CPU was fully loaded. And the CPU struggled to use more than 40-45w and barely clock to 3.1ghz. Now, my 3070ti can clock to 1725 to 1740mhz, up from 1525 to 1600mhz and use the full 150w. My i7 12650h uses around 50-60w while holding 3.8 to 4.1ghz. My FPS got a nice boost too and its a lot more stable. All because I was able to access advanced bios. Also, would like it if you raised the laptop since there's cheap, metal feet with built in stands you can buy for laptops to glue them to the base of the laptop and raise them by a good 1-2'. This can lower temps by a good amount, sometimes by 10 degrees since the laptop can suck in more air. I did it to my nitro 5. Works wonderfully. And can you do some testing with undervolting and overclocking the GPU? And show us the GPU and CPU clocks in games. Also, the 6gb of vram isn't that great in 2024 considering 8gb is the minimum to run games comfortably at 1080p. Realistically the 4050 should've been a 128bit 8gb gpu. 3050 6gb also got a 6gb updated refresh.

[@eximdpd6077]

Hi, did you mistake? Nitro 5 is Acer.

[@siyzerix]

@@eximdpd6077 Like msi has an easy to access advanced bios, I unlocked my nitro 5's advanced bios to make better tuning possible,

[@OdedKumin]

you undervolt your laptop ?

[@jeffbaker4219]

i just got the 144 Hz IPS AMD Ryzen 9 7940HS GeForce RTX 4060 Laptop GPU 16GB Memory 1 TB NVMe SSD Windows 11 Home 64-bit Gaming Laptop and it is really good for what I paid. The upgrade to win 11 pro is all I have left to do and this thing performs really well for what they are charging. I'll be Happy with this for awhile

[@22dattii]

I just ordered this and it’s coming in 3 days, are you still happy with it?

[@jeffbaker4219]

@@22dattii yeah it does fine for me.

[@jamescyberops9882]

Hi, do you have blue screen issues with your Laptop? 🤔

[@jeffbaker4219]

@@jamescyberops9882 Not at all.

[@airac.9426]

Great review. Thanks! A tech reviewer who I have a crush on is reviewing a laptop that I have crush on. ❤😅

[@airac.9426]

@owusu-yeboahgilbert3898 hahahaha

[@TechGuyBeau]

I’ll never turn down a compliment. And I certainly won’t turn down two of them in one comment

[@airac.9426]

​@@TechGuyBeau ☺️😊🙏🙂

[@boredom730]

i got a r9 7940hs and 4060 msi bravo for around 1000 bucks. its a steal. performs really well, i agree on the screen though colors are not the best

[@ab.hsh2005]

Is it good and what are the things you didn't like about it?

[@boredom730]

TBH the touchpad is the biggest issue, it is quite sticky for my liking but i barely use it ,and the screen colors are not that good if you are into editing. For gaming though its a beast just make sure to buy a cooling pad for max performance.

[@ab.hsh2005]

Do screen colors bother you?

[@MrRaven4124]

Just bought it today for $699 😅

[@CaptainOhare]

This was an excellent video and helped me tremendously. Thank you.

[@Maxxisdumb]

I bought this to play faith. A game that an Atari can run insanely good.

[@MoBallin]

Been using it for a year my only opinion is that the Rtx 4060 is so good at cooling the laptop that it literally drains your laptop to 1 hour or 1 hour and 30 minutes of playtime 90% of the time im charging whilst using it but still in terms of performance it really is top notch

[@TechGuyBeau]

Realistically you shouldn’t game on battery

[@MoBallin]

@@TechGuyBeau Ive read multiple studies suggesting that Charging whilst gaming is ok in terms of the battery as long as you dont play maximum charged most often i game whenever my laptop goes low, i charge it till 80% then disconnect and continue rince and repeat been fine the battery still is in good health and there has been no degrading in my experience its ight

[@archimedesamazonas5379]

Just got one with a 4060 for 750 Dollars at micro center. Great deal.

[@TechGuyBeau]

absolute steal

[@XtianJovic]

Great review! This is one of my options cause I'm about to buy a new laptop.

[@burbanana]

hey Beau, thanks for the videos, good to watch as always. I have an interesting concept for you; personally I am not so fond of Windows 11 since its release, but I don't know if it actually improved and feels better than 10 now. I still stick to Windows 10 Pro. Could you do a side by side Windows 10/11 comparison with your favorite, most premium new 2024 laptops? Maybe 2 of them or just one like the Yoga Pro 9i? I think it's an interesting case!

[@TechGuyBeau]

It would probably be okay for an AMD machine. Windows 10 handles Intel e cores and P cores somewhat poorly.

[@burbanana]

@@TechGuyBeau Thanks for the tip, so I guess I will probably have to use Win11 with my yoga pro 9i?

[@GloomyOrange05]

I have the model with the 4050 and 7535HS and i love it its amazing no regrets got it on sale for 600$

[@TechGuyBeau]

Great price

[@roelreibentayag8365]

Where did you got it?

[@check-incheck-out2350]

Nice review. Could it be that the next one is long awaited Yoga Pro 9i? (there is quite literally almost no one who've done a detailed review on it)

[@TechGuyBeau]

It’s coming out today

[@jakapathuayrahan6846]

Did you check what is hi res audio about? And also can you change audio sample rate when using headphone. I can’t 😢

[@pauljones9150]

Good review

[@BasicallyRealTales]

I think ill buy the r5 7535hs+rtx 3050 for light gaming,studyng and CAD tasks,i think for 630€ i cant get anything better and it will perform nice

[@krekmanski]

Did you get it? How does it perform with CAD tasks? Is it powerful enough?

[@BasicallyRealTales]

@@krekmanski nope,at the end i got a r7 6800h+3050ti,Works so nice

[@kingdon9690]

So I'm currently testing a Asus g713rc it has a ryzen 7 6800hs, and a rtx 3050 4gb vram 16gb memory, and 512gb ssd. I get somewhat good performance in fortnite i have epic settings on for view, textures, and something else..everything else is off and it's hitting about 160 to 200fps depending on the part of the map I'm on. I'm waiting on a msi bravo 15 Ryzen 9 7940hs, with a rtx 4060 8gb vram with 1tb ssd 144hz screen etc. The asus g713rc looks so dam good, like the rgb strip on the bottom. The pain splatter on the left side under the screen 17.3 inch screen, asus symbol lights up in the back. Loud speakers which is hard to find on laptops. In all the asus looks esthetically pleasing compared to the msi. But performance wise I believe the msi is better. What should I do? 😆 Send the asus back, and keep the msi when it comes or cancel the msi order and keep the asus?

[@kenziemac29]

I just got the 4060 varient, on sale for £800, very good price in the uk. How good is it for the price?

[@ryanisright3559]

I just got that one too. Open box model for €765

[@mimic3527]

Friend that bought this 3 months ago told me the battery life isnt too great, after 1 month he had around 3-4 hours on battery saver

[@TechGuyBeau]

AMD or Intel?

[@mimic3527]

@@TechGuyBeau amd cpu.

[@ErinDado]

This is a gaming laptop you must expect this kind of thing, it needs to be plugged in to boost the GPU power for performance mode

[@mimic3527]

@@ErinDado even on battery saving or just any low power mode its bad battery life

[@zzoinks]

It may be a defective battery, he should get it warranty fixed​@@mimic3527

[@NikhilVerma-jk9ng]

honestly great review

[@TechGuyBeau]

Thanks :)

[@chinno02]

Thank you for this video I am about to buy this laptop. I believe i wont have a problem buying an extra kit of 32gb ddr5 5200 ram right? Thank you in advance for your guidance

[@aceingaming9656]

How's the battery life with just browsing and watching videos?

[@jorishcatacutan2513]

Im planning to buy this is this true that all Msi poor hinges?

[@XJosieRosieX]

Isn't 90c hot for the cpu?? I thought they were supposed to stay under 90 preferably.

[@StevenHewlett-qg7vs]

not for a laptop

[@moweman839]

Can it run helldivers 2 well? Trying to upgrade from an 8th gen i7. Don't want to be cpu bottlenecked anymore

[@pauljones9150]

4:20 I hate how gaming laptops have a 1000 screws in them, all different sizes

[@TechGuyBeau]

😂

[@dhimery]

I’m torn between this or the legion 5 with 3070ti, is this one better overall? Price difference between the two is not too wide in my country

[@siyzerix]

3070ti is 40-45% faster than the 4050 while packing more vram PROVIDED the 3070ti is 150w.

[@NoshikiYT]

Should I get the Msi bravo or Msi sword?

[@BrocolyManiac]

Do you think this laptop would be good for animation and motion graphics?

[@TechGuyBeau]

Yes but you will need to upgrade the RAM.

[@Gravitation3Beatles3]

These $800 in US now 😢

[@smixio-m6o]

@TechGuyBeau - which Lenovo laptop is good for graphic designing.. like designing game characters.. or things in it.. basically for creators ..

[@TechGuyBeau]

Well you need ram and VRAM. Might need to go up to a legion 7 pro if you need loads of vram. If you can get by with 8gb of vram, look at the legion 7 slim. Another option is the MSI stealth/creator. They are pricy but probably exactly what you need. I used them at CES

[@MacIsGreasy]

whats an actual good laptop i found victus and this idk which one

[@capocooktops7154]

Where did you find this for $800 cad? I’m in Ontario and I’m seeing $1,700. 1Tb, 32 gb ram, 4060 gpu

[@TechGuyBeau]

It goes on sale often

[@xGreeze]

That spec is $1,299 before tax at Canada Computers right now. Just purchased.

[@Salakoprod]

This laptop is horrible, hinge was pulling on keyboard area so much that each time I would move the screen it would power off, my charging port came unsoldered and my motherboard also sustained damage. This was after 4 years of ownership so don’t expect it to last more than 5 years

[@urekmazino3345]

i want to buy the 4060 variant what do u think is better msi bravo 15 or msi cyborg or gigabyte G5? i'm confused between these laptops.

[@Anthomra]

Get the msi. The gigabyte screen has bad color and a bit yellowish i had one before i got the msi

[@SofíaLM-c1e]

how can i change the keyboard color?? i go through the msi center and i don't find anything related to (i have the msi bravo 15 cv7)

[@viethongpham7524]

Is the cpu a bit hot when you game?

[@karankaul1639]

Is the display better than what we get on Acer Nitro V RTX4050 model?

[@alwaysworkingerin]

I want to play World of Warcraft when I have to travel for work and generally play at fairly high/ultra settings. My computer at home is a I7-9700 with a 3060ti, is this a good option for someone who isn't going to use it as a main machine?

[@kenechipalabrica9602]

The laptop is much more faster than your homepc

[@alwaysworkingerin]

@@kenechipalabrica9602 I bought it and it runs WOW better! Thanks 😊

[@EmuPlayZone-t1y]

Bro can I ask if this is worth it if it cost 37k in the Philippines? Also is it good for coding, multitasking, vid editing, and can it run tekken 8 and wukong? Edit: I thought it was the rx6550m version😅

[@2ragsoy]

kayang kaya ng wukong yan, mas mataas ang rx6550m, kesa sa rtx2050 ng konti. 35k nlng sya sa unipc

[@SpiritualPlayboy69]

Is the Acer nitro 5 with i5 13gen/rtx4050 a better option in the similar price as it has better display with 3ms response time?

[@rangerjoe126]

yeah usually acer has better build quality but sometimes it has trade off like bad quality LCD

[@SpiritualPlayboy69]

@@rangerjoe126 actually I went with the LoQ i5 12gen/4060 much better screen and built quality than both these options... Moreover I got the 4060 variant at deal price which is even cheaper than nitro 4050 model

[@rangerjoe126]

@@SpiritualPlayboy69 oh you mean the Lenovo LoQ? I saw a post weeks ago that it is prone to motherboard failure but if you get a good deal out of it I guess it's a good find

[@Arc_Noir]

May I know what software you used at 13:02 for displaying those numbers?

[@TechGuyBeau]

Msi afterburner

[@Arc_Noir]

@@TechGuyBeau Thanks!

[@matthew3353-t3o]

Two questions: Can you turn off secure boot in the bios? And does the bios have different modes for the video card, like discrete, hybrid, etc? Thanks.

[@poppingcat.]

Idk about the second question, but u can turn off secure boot for sure

[@ksv9k166]

Can we use a different brand of nvme drive or it must be MSI branded

[@TechGuyBeau]

You can use any brand

[@Mezzeric]

you can epoxy a M.2 stand for the 2nd NVME though.

[@sumner2q]

MSI will send you the bracket for free

[@sam3d]

Is this better than the Dell g15?

[@TechGuyBeau]

i havent reviewed the g15 myself but based on the feedback of discord peeps, id take the MSI bravo

[@sam3d]

@@TechGuyBeau if you haven't reviewed it yourself then you just have an opinion. other's opinions should not be used, at least not if you're a reviewer.

[@TechGuyBeau]

@@sam3d weird comment….. I answered, precisely stating where I got my opinion on which “I’d take”. I did NOT state which was better. And also, it is physically possible to take other people’s advice. I have not jumped into a volcano, but based on the feedback of others, if I did I would die. So…. Therefore I won’t. Furthermore…You are looking for MY advice…. So based on your logic… you shouldn’t take the advice of a reviewer… I fail to see your logic here

[@sangeethsujith6396]

Yes

[@robhunt8378]

153g extra just to balance the laptop lol. Well I guess you get what you're paying for.

[@johnmarkbolanon1329]

Hi, which one do you think is better Ryzen 7535hs (rx6550M) or RTX 2050????

[@nr2676]

RX 6550M

[@Matrixx679]

The huge chunk of metal inside cracks me up 😂😂

[@TechGuyBeau]

It’s an odd approach to be sure

[@sym5242]

hese are the specs of the gaming laptop im considering buying. pls help me out as i have no clue about anything , i just want something to play games with friends with lag free. Model: MSI Bravo 15 C7UDX-282NEU System: Notebook, Windows 11 Home Processor: AMD Ryzen 5 7535HS (6 cores) RAM: 8GB DDR5-4800 MHz (upgradeable to 64GB, 1 slot free) Storage: SSD, PCIe 4.0, M.2 NVMe Display: 15.6" Full HD (1920x1080), IPS level, LED Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3050, 6GB GDDR6 price: 750 dollars

[@zzoinks]

That was a good price at the time!

[@dontblinkoryouwillmissme]

pls review the msi alpha 17 c7v 2023

[@Joecool-in2hr]

Do it run vr well?

[@TechGuyBeau]

Probably not

[@crisscdn4395]

yo tengo esa misma laptop pero lo que no me gusto es la batería sin cargador solo dura 40 min igualmente sin usar la computadora sin su cargador se descarga como si nada es imposible llevar esta computadora sin su cargador se podría decir que las MSI tienen batería de juguete esta computadora pasa todo el día cargando y ni así se carga al 100%

[@chaython]

Where'd you get it for 800?

[@TechGuyBeau]

Gotta hunt for those sales. Options also include refurb units, big sales, etc

[@d1ssolv3r]

I got one for 480 USD at a market in Thailand lol

[@chaython]

@@d1ssolv3r do you think it's stolen or something?

[@d1ssolv3r]

@@chaython Nah it's just an all AMD variant the Bravo 15 B5ED, and with a good currency conversion I've been a big fan of the laptop, I'm a linux user so that's why I wanted something budget with full AMD

[@pauljones9150]

10:20 such a small trackpad

[@jagodishardas2303]

I have msi bravo ryzen 5 7535hs rtx 4050 105 tgp cost me 75k in Indian rupes and free 1.5 year warranty cost o nly 3k and give me 2k stem wallet ❤ 1:41

[@bubblegum7489]

How is the after sales service of msi? I have heard msi laptops have a lot of hinge issues and it breaks often.

[@TechGuyBeau]

Unsure about laptops, but msi had a strong reputation regarding GPU, motherboard, and peripheral support. I’d assume this would extend to laptops

[@Fanny_BannyGG]

hi the video is very cool but could you tell me how to change the color of the keyboard

[@shikikanaz4624]

Would be in the msi app

[@Ghshane]

Can I stream on this without any problems?

[@TechGuyBeau]

Like stream movies? It’s more powerful thank you light think. It’s a capable laptop through and through

[@siyzerix]

Streaming games should be fine, but remember, you're gonna need a lotta storage for that. And 4050 might struggle in a few cases.

[@moweman839]

How to bios update?

[@benjurgodfrey0211]

How to change the color of the keyboard? 🥹