Techno beyond rumbles

[@OscarUnderdog]

Torc: soundcloud.com/torcaudio 🔥🔥🔥 Face the Sun: soundcloud.com/face-the-sun-be 🌈🌈🌈 Find Oscar's video courses here: courses.underdog.brussels 🖤🖤🖤 Join the Underdog Discord channel: discord.gg/z5N9CTA 👾👾👾

[@STRANJAH]

NIce to see an update. This was the topic that got me onto your channel. BIgup Oscar!

[@djghostmode]

Hi stranjah

[@OscarUnderdog]

⚡niiice

[@AntonBanks]

Thanks for this video. I just wanted to mention that what drew me (and has kept me) on this channel is the excellent instruction that you've provided with Ableton. You manage to teach music theory as well as the mechanics of how to produce with Ableton all in one go. I do appreciate that you've become an ambassador for Reason, and kudos on that! Just consider that many in your audience (like myself) are probably novice producers who had to save our pennies for a very long time just to buy Ableton. I feel that I need to get proficient in Ableton before looking to branch out to other platforms. It truly is interesting what you've done with Ableton and Reason, but the benefit of this video is somewhat diminished because I can't follow along with you at home.

[@OscarUnderdog]

Understood - I'll keep my ableton content coming as well!

[@qulpe]

You can get the first month of Reason for 1€. Have fun

[@AntonBanks]

@@qulpe I do get it. The cost of Reason isn’t all that much. For me, the bigger issue is learning the basics of Ableton before throwing another DAW on top of it. I need to master the fundamentals before I would feel comfortable adding another platform into the mix (no pun intended) :-)

[@AcidCortex1]

Were you listening to my brain? I love this style of techno, and it is where i was hoping to get to eventually

[@sierra6music]

Finally. Reason tutorials

[@setharnold9764]

That's an impressive collection of references back to previous videos :) the catalogue grows!

[@OscarUnderdog]

Haha indeed right! Leveraging that previous material!

[@vittya4373]

Honestly I'm so glad about this video. 🙏 Title says it all: nowdays almost everyone likes to think that if they add some "rumble" from the same kick mainly used in the track, then they do sooo "masssive and hard techno" - in big coloumns. While in reality they don' t focus quite well on ear-candys, details and depths. I don't say those are always necessary, but using absolute zero of them is just another soulless banger from the mass factory - no matter what anyone says. Music should be over business, no matter if we talk about so-called underground or not.

[@OscarUnderdog]

Thank for the support :) yeah I'd love to see more risks taken, more diversity, more weirdness!

[@addictedtocraic]

I love how you promote musicality esp when using 'random' to create loops. Look for the groove that moves YOU. Great job.

[@54LZ]

Great Video!

[@cameronoconnor5364]

I was working in Brussels last week. Walked past Underdog studios on the off chance I might just catch Oscar on the road and say hello. I am learning a lot. Great videos. Definitely considering the online courses.

[@KimStennabbCaesar]

I'm very happy to see you bring up more polymeter ideas on the channel. There's so much more you can do if you start experimenting.

[@opcorrea4444]

man thanks for all your work, as a Brazilian I wish I have the money to buy your course. But your chanel is already helping me a lot.

[@johannes.nieuwenhuizen]

Is it exclusively Reason now?

[@OscarUnderdog]

No no, definitely not! Will still be doing Ableton stuff, am just challenging myself to get deeper into Reason right now :)

[@johannes.nieuwenhuizen]

@@OscarUnderdog awesome. Congrats on the deal and sounds like a fun challenge. Gone are the days when it seemed like everyone was using Logic & Reason to make music ;)

[@jakefairley6993]

What I really loved about your interpretation of rumble is, it creates a really nice blueprint for the rest of your track Like every time I play around with the delays and reverbs it creates all these new textures and rhythms that I want to expand on, really helped me get out of my creative hole, thank you

[@nickstene1384]

Thanks for being such a clear and effective instructor.

[@kyphae]

I am a huge fan of this technique for synths to create strange bleeps

[@segefjord]

I appreciate that you mention it's possible to do all of this with just Ableton - i've been producing since i was a small kid, starting out in garage band, later FL Studio, and now my final destination in Ableton. What i've come to learn over the years, like most other creatives learn with time, is that tools are cool, but often there are many tools that allow you to achieve the exact same result. For me what's cool about Ableton is how much i can do within that single tool - i only need to learn a single workflow "the ableton way" to do things. So i personally would never even bother getting a subscription with Reason - but a few years ago when i was inexperienced, i would have jumped on the wagon right away, because i was copying tools instead of methods. I think every beginner in any field copy tools when they begin, and when they get more experience they start to copy methods / philosophy etc. I feel like you're walking a fine line between becoming yet another KZbin channel that just sells more tools and more tools, and this is so annoying to me at this point, because honestly that is a complete waste of time. I love your videos because you focus so much on methods and philosophy, you have such great lessons to teach. I'll be looking into your underdog courses. But i also understand why you get affiliated! It's hopefully a great revenue stream, and of course you deserve to get paid well for this amazing content you put out there for free 😄 But my idea is probably all of the pros watching you to learn about methods etc. etc. don't even bother with these "ads", and then probably the noobs might go and use the link if they can afford it - i know i personally spent a lot of money on gear, tools and software back in the day, and i use none of it now. But no regrets, i couldn't have landed on the tools i ended up using, without first trying all the other tools ✨ Maybe some noobs watching you will end up loving Reason and use it for the rest of their careers! - or it might just help them learn some things. But yea it's great that you mention it's possible to do without the tools you're sponsored by. That makes it feel slightly less like an ad, and a reminder that you're teaching a method rather than a tool. I hope your courses are more focused on Ableton, because i'll admit it's a lot more fun when i don't have to constantly think "oh i can just do it with x and y tools in ableton for free" 😋 Honestly i would rather pay for your content and get rid of these Reason ads, than watch it for free. You're such a great teacher.

[@PostQuantumWorld]

I totally agree with these comments, as departure from the usual knowledge transfer. i cannot help wondering if this video would have been created, if it were not to plug Reason

[@VenuX7]

As an upcoming artist, I've been watching your videos as of recent and they've been really helpful for me for the particular sound and style I'm going for as I create and produce my own music. Thank you. 🖤

[@robertreid8241]

Beyond "Rustles" with that jacket! Great stuff as always!

[@koljagolub2602]

This is so deep, i love your way of thinking and explaining

[@DanielQuasar]

I accidentally did something similar with slicing when I mistakenly put a melody pattern on my drums in Reason. Haha Ended loving what happened and kept it for the final track. If you've ever seen the first Appleseed film, the track you are working on sounds like something straight out of that OST and it's awesome. Also, can I just say, something seems different about you. You seem happier and more comfortable in the way you engage with filming. Whatever it is, it shows and I appreciate it. ☺️ (Also I have previously worn, and will again wear, that nail color, so good!)

[@OscarUnderdog]

Really touched to read this, thanks for the good vibes 🤗💅⚡

[@breathinginpizza]

Thanks for cool videos Oscar

[@OscarUnderdog]

:)

[@fredericpasco2863]

hey mate , top like usual , u re still my LIVE hero

[@MrPeter924]

Awesome great sound

[@sama_mxmn]

Ohhh I like this! Amazing track with the 19 16ths :)

[@OscarUnderdog]

Thanks 🤗 proud of it!

[@AKAtAGG]

Yay Reason!

[@Flux_One]

A great way to make some glitchy polyrhythmic percussion 👍

[@breathinginpizza]

6:20 This is Awesomee

[@keithlow3056]

Drawn in with the intro tune. Although the shellsuit jacket reminds me of my raving days lol

[@jakke300]

love the fuse shirt. thanks for diving into the more breakbeat kind of thing. Is the rumble process different when going for breakbeat?

[@AstronoizeOfficial]

That jacket is dope af!

[@travyp_official]

i added the haas effect to my techno rumble and i like the way it sounds. Should i avoid this or will it be fine?

[@OscarUnderdog]

Check what happens when you sum it to mono! If that doesn't ruin the sound, you're probably groovy :)

[@Gnurklesquimp]

I love playing around with atonal bass ever since you reminded me it exists, it's actually kinda crazy all the tricks you can do with it if your style of music doesn't need a crystal clear tonal bass (Even then your buildup may involve it etc.), you can even mix the two, as separate sounds or layered carefully to give high notes some bottom etc., I want this to catch on across genres besides techy/ambient stuff. MAN can it be hard to mix into some styles of music where it's not okay for the bass to swallow up your whole mix though, often just too muddy when raised to the level where it's present enough, though leaving it low is often appropriate for ambient (sections) etc. anyway.

[@blackdisko7400]

Awesome once again! Please suggest a sequencer in ableton for what you did with reason! There are like hundreds.. thanx for your time!

[@OscarUnderdog]

Hahaha I struggle with m4l sequencers being unstable sometimes, but the ml185 I think is pretty good. Once you have something good, be sure to bounce, as sometimes it glitches!

[@blackdisko7400]

@@OscarUnderdog cheers mate! ❤️

[@MenekiNekoMusic]

The 19 sixteenth notes example almost sounds like the drum beat from Nine Inch Nail's - Head Like A Hole but sped up.

[@Iredidv]

Pump, a reason rack extension fx,is my goto for rumble now.precise as hell and lots of other options like gating. Try the free month with that one. I was sold after an hour.

[@rottenzoltar]

Been using reason for 10 years, never disappoint. great to see you using it.

[@303otto]

Sometimes after all this sculpuring adding a simple 4ontheFloor BD at the top, all your weird sculpture "snaps" in place like "THIS" is it! ...welcome to the inner rabbithole 😻 here, take this cookie, we have infinite of them here 😉😇

[@OscarUnderdog]

Yessssss this is it 🙌

[@Hardcrafter2807]

I totally would have used those kicks you make with that bitcrusher! Would be nice for doom techno or doomcore!

[@willhenleydigital4277]

This is awesome . So just to check what you are bouncing it’s just the rumble layer? Not the kick or other textures or whatever?

[@Kodeloop]

Gooood

[@jomorken4853]

I have problems making my hats groove prperly. It sounds ok for a while but then it goes wonky

[@strangerting7818]

Hey Oscar what did you use to crunch up the sounds in the Torc track? Sounds amazing

[@OscarUnderdog]

I think I used Trash2 over a bit of African drumming, looped at this strange length. 💅

[@alecwhiting5976]

Love your stuff and thanks for all your great work! hope more is based on Ableton, no offense to Reason just not easy to follow unless we use same DAW

[@Drinkyoghurt]

I just take my hardware synths (Volca and Minilogue xd), put some reverb and a non typical delay on it, then use standard arpeggio and let the LFO decide what to do with the filter and (amp) envelope generator. This creates melodies which stay in the same range and feeling but also constantly change. I only recently figured out how to do it but it blew my mind how you can just take a simple 1 bar loop and make it sound like it's constantly changing.

[@live_for_dixit]

I'm trying to do that with ableton and rozzer but struggling a lot lol

[@damanjeetvirdi8358]

can you please give detailed explanation of weird rhythm and share this project with us ?

[@AllArtprod]

I love you so much man. Only sad part is thay my go to DAW is fl studio. And sometimes have trouble putting it out in my DAW. I am thinking about changing but i feel like i need to start over the whole learning process of the DAW.

[@OscarUnderdog]

💚

[@fireflake_dnb_470]

nice to see more producers / engineers having painted nails

[@OscarUnderdog]

❤️

[@shen6232]

oscar, what year is that jacket from? :D

[@OscarUnderdog]

👀 the future

[@Howwi]

Hey, Oscar. I am struggelig with leads in my music. I am good at making a groove, making an atmosphere, building space and atmosphere around the track, but it's always missing that lead in the middle. Any tips?

[@waxpuppets3029]

Oscar, first, i love you. Second, dont ever again wear this jacket on a video xD my lil brain is disturbed by the noises

[@stefaansimoen2888]

can you post links next time you talk about another video...some are so hooked on knowledge they screencast the video when tucked in bed and cant click links...bedankt oscar...groetjes uit oostende...

[@djdeejay4170]

i love(d) your ableton tutorials, but now you are an ambasador for reason (it might be for a reason) does thaT means you will not use ableton anymore ?

[@OscarUnderdog]

I'll be back in ableton I'm almost all future videos, no stress :) I'm just expanding my options, not changing forever.

[@tomwells4899]

808 state LFO Shut up and Dance plus so many white label and acetate mixes I like what you're making there Aphex Twin . I love industrial techno Remember try making music without a DAW.

[@_HOLDON]

FUSE BRUXELLES MY GUY

[@OscarUnderdog]

🖤

[@nathanbryers]

Is that… a leisure suit? 😂🤦‍♂️🥳

[@techno6106]

Next installment about bassssslines instead of rumble? 🤪🤪🤪🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼

[@cameronduffy6979]

I remember Propellorhead.

[@kavokei1337]

Thank you, Oscar. This is gold. Using this tonight. Cheers mate! Also, so great to see Reason on screen again. I used to use it about 15 years ago until I took a few years break from production. You're seriously tempting me to get stuck into Reason again. Btw any chance you could be persuaded to start sharing your videos on Twitter again? I have notifications active for your channel in YT but surprise surprise, YT doesn't feel like notifying me. However, Twitter notifications seem to work fine for me. I know you're on FB and IG but I deleted my accounts last year.

[@supafly424]

think of a bloodstream sculpturing this.

[@OscarUnderdog]

gnarly

[@nado3775]

First🕺✨🕴️✨🕺

[@FredericVCthinking]

Woop woop

[@nado3775]

@@FredericVCthinking haha i never do this.. But today is the day!😅 🕺🕴️🕺 Dancing more... Anyway i just checked on your ch. And it's a very nice place. Interesring stuff. Subscribed right away!

[@lattetown]

Interesting, but I find these too distorted and muddy for my taste. I prefer clean, bouncy, evolving syncopation in my deep techno to randomized rumbles which feels accidental and unintentional. Give me something to groove to and bob my head.

[@SuperOtn]

Why is everything Reason now? Like the video's very much, but this is to much. Becoming a Reason Ad channel. Besides that, thumbs up for all your work en good lessons.

[@OscarUnderdog]

I'll still be using Ableton as my main DAW on most stuff, just going a bit deeper on Reason for a few weeks to learn it myself. 🤷‍♂️

[@DamnCam.]

Damn I specifically would watch your videos because you produced in ableton. rip :(

[@OscarUnderdog]

Hehe chill i only did a few reason videos, no stress

[@semi788]

[@Arte-Libertad]

hAPPY ACCIDENTS...ALL OVER THE PLACE,,,,

[@twatmunro]

What's the difference between a teacher and a coach?

[@vinims5]

Back to ableton please 😢

[@tejibel2800]

Hey Oscar, really love your content. But explaining how to do specific actions within a daw or plugin i don’t use loses my interest. The theoretical part is still top notch. But it’s diluted with (for me) useless info. Keep creating!

[@OscarUnderdog]

Understandable! Dont worry, I'm still going to be doing ableton stuff, just challenging myself to get deeper into reason as well.

[@tejibel2800]

I don’t mind reason. In fact, i’m thinking of switching to reason. (Good job haha) But the whereabouts of a knob or setting are less relevant than the great theory you’re teaching. ;)

[@OscarUnderdog]

@@tejibel2800 before switching, I'd advise trying the 20e subscription and seeing how the modules work as a VST. That's going to be a much smoother path than trying to really switch DAW :)

[@tomhillgrove6312]

I'm about 95% dawless and still here watching Oscar 😉, most things although daw based can be put into use with hardware.

[@raptor.1]

To be honest, I dont like your adidas jacket but i really envy your nike jacket lmao

[@JoeMama-ml5zh]

This dude is an amazing teacher, but is he shilling for reason? I haven't used it in years.

[@peterstevenson1812]

Stopped watching when he said "I'm a Reason ambassador now"

[@adrianpiwowarczyk9848]

ableton won't pay him for using it in almost all videos, so he got to get some $$$ from the content he make by ads.

[@LockStoppageSandwich]

Rumbles with hardware ?

[@joostkpmn5401]

Hey mister, kan je misschien aandacht besteden aan vocalen? Als voorbeeld wil ik 1f2f geven van eurotrash. Dank bij voorbaat

[@suntzu6122]

Hm this could prob be done with octatrack and its crossfader.