Technology & Research Timeline In Foxhole

[@waterloo32594]

My biggest issue with the tech in foxhole is sledges and bayonets not being available from the beginning. If you have the technical and industrial ability to build rifles and trycks, then you definitely have the ability to build sledgehammers and bayonets

[@JainusVt]

The whole point of limiting comps to sledgehammer only is so that they're not overfarmed, but using the hammer is so dang slow on salvage. I'd make basic hammer repair only, sledgehammer resource gathering, and have an axe upgrade for the sledgehammer (not a new item, just upgrade) for heavy resource nodes

[@GDP-hm5ey]

The bayonet rule is to stop meleechads like me from singlehandedly overrunning positions

[@loafofbread9400]

​@@GDP-hm5eyif you refer yourself as a chad you are on the complete opposite spectrum of chad

[@GDP-hm5ey]

@@loafofbread9400 cope + seethe. Go to Deadlands fight club and learn to play

[@goldengoat1737]

@@loafofbread9400 So True! The irony is startling

[@suotam2536]

I have about 270 hours in Foxhole, so I won’t comment much on tech tree improvements. However, I do have a small suggestion regarding artillery shells. Currently, when a shell is about to land directly on you, you hear a very short whistle just before impact. I think it would be more interesting if that whistle were longer. This would make artillery slightly less powerful against infantry, as they’d have more time to react and seek cover. It would also create a more dramatic experience, when you hear the shell coming from a distance and have a tense moment when trying to get into trench or bunker. But if there's any problem with this idea that I haven’t considered, please let me know!

[@firestarthndrclan1261]

The whistle is directional, either left or right. Listening to it often saves my life since I'll know where it will hit.

[@Chaz16]

Gotta pump those numbers up

[@jonathany1240]

@@firestarthndrclan1261yeah i think i’ve dodged a good 1/3 of the shells that would have hit me by a quick duck and cover going off the whistle

[@punk_noodles]

Yep if im the emeny i like to design my artillery shells with a nice horn and whistle So the enemy knows how to avoid them right right makes sense

[@Chaz16]

@@punk_noodles look up Jericho trumpets

[@barleysixseventwo6665]

In fairness to the artillery, infantry standing out in the open when there are perfectly good craters and trenches to be hiding in are basically asking for their fate.

[@RobertLovesGames]

Agreed! I think it's more new players that haven't figured this out yet that get the most frustrated.

[@PT_Rex]

When I hear the whistle I just prey that it dont land on me

[@leewai3099]

There are times when you have to charge into no mans land where there are not enough trenches to take cover in. Not every battlespace has trenches conveniently placed until the fight has been going on for at least an hour even then I thank the dedication of the engineering players who die multiple times just to dig the trenches in no mans land itself to move the front forward or did you think the trenches randomly generated themselves?

[@talha6852]

Now, this is real ptsd ​@@PT_Rex

[@whitelegend182]

Funny how the knife is not invented yet at the start of the war

[@RobertLovesGames]

Right? lol And sledge hammers take 3 whole days to get teched. That needs to be bumped up!

[@TheGreatHoldinii]

Robert gives new players their rifles and Freerk gives them the ammunition

[@RobertLovesGames]

I love that! Someone else just said something similar to this and I do think Freerk and I compliment each other well with our videos.

[@timothyishmael2096]

Alright, as a Factorio player myself, you talked me into it. I'm gonna give this game a shot.

[@RobertLovesGames]

Nice! Feel free to DM me on discord if you have any questions or need help with anything!

[@marineveteran92]

Sledge Hammers definitely need to be earlier. There also needs to be added and Excavator for larger trenches and add a Cement truck that is a mobile version of the concrete mixer

[@RobertLovesGames]

For real! Like after 24 hours of when war starts or something. Would love to see both those additions. Maybe for the major update!

[@marineveteran92]

@@RobertLovesGames 24-36 hours would be a prime time. Or move them further up in the tiers. Like, we want to scroop more efficiently!!!!

[@anakagungaryakrishnabhakti145]

Imagine getting your cement truck stolen

[@sebastianfries274]

I want to see an optional upgrade to the super-heavy tank to make it a land-ship, with increased size, more machine guns, and space for infantry to spawn and deploy to the battlefield.

[@RobertLovesGames]

That would be so cool! I would love that! Thanks for sharing that idea!

[@Gllim13]

Thank for the video! It's an important topic to expose newer players to. The prototypes can be quite frustrating at times with their inequality. This is a small example, but this war (117) Collie push momentum stopped when our proto was Battle bus vs warden (I believe) half-track. It was 2 days of just not having a real answer. I can't remember what the proto tech before half-track was, but it was two very lopsided ones in a row, I believe. Also proto kits of things that can't be made feels bad. Like Havok timer proto kits.

[@RobertLovesGames]

Thank you! And I think it's very useful information for any player to know. And yea I agree with your thoughts about proto's as well. Thanks for sharing that!

[@GenericUser394]

I feel as if it all comes out quite quickly, but then again the average foxhole war only really lasts long enough for nukes to be barely used. And I’ve noticed the wars they’d to get longer now, especially the current one, I’ve just been on a break and it’s still going

[@RobertLovesGames]

I think some things come out to quickly like I mentioned artillery. And some things come out way to slow like sledge hammers and harvesters. My theory is the devs want longer wars and with every new update they are trying to make it happen more and more. Now only if they gave us longer breaks between wars :D

[@ZiWil-i7t]

Congrats with the baby it’s like a new technology being unveiled

[@RobertLovesGames]

LOL! I love it! And thank you!

[@ansfelt8154]

Robert, you convinced me to jump aboard the foxhole train and I'm loving it like I hadn't loved a game in a DECADE. Thank you so much. Now be careful out there. Rumour has it my wife has paid hitmen to make you pay for what you've done to her husband ... :P

[@RobertLovesGames]

That's awesome to hear! Glad you are enjoying it! And I will make sure to watch myself :D If you have any questions or need help with anything feel free to DM me on discord!

[@Probablyacowtbh]

Awesome, another one claimed. Enjoy your time bud

[@kylewick3701]

Congrats on the new baby boy I hope all goes well!!

[@RobertLovesGames]

Thank you! Appreciate that!

[@k_fatthump2145]

0:44 hey that's me

[@RobertLovesGames]

Ha! Good spot! Thanks to the 27th for letting me use that channel to do my research :D

[@k_fatthump2145]

​@RobertLovesGames I know you were over here for a while, how was the stay?

[@RobertLovesGames]

Loved it! Will for sure be playing with 27th again when I am Warden again.

[@netherknight_6118]

Thanks for the videos Dude. I found foxhole through your channel and really love the game. I'll try to save some money and buy it soon so I can play myself. until then your videos are a great experience.

[@RobertLovesGames]

No problem! And that's awesome to hear! Feel free to DM me on discord if you ever have any questions about the game or need help learning when you get it!

[@Van_of_the_lake]

Congrats Robert :D

[@RobertLovesGames]

Thank you!!

[@GoatPilot10]

My favorite stage is when light tanks tech and fronts start to move more.

[@RobertLovesGames]

Nice! I almost wish the light tank stage was before the artillery stage sometimes.

[@GoatPilot10]

@@RobertLovesGames I agree

[@GoatPilot10]

Although I do enjoy when BTs tech and then I can run Devitts just to have fun (it works 90% of the time because I'm "not a threat")

[@Drauglinn]

I think that some kind of tree removal technique would be extremely helpful. Something like upgraded building vehicle.

[@RobertLovesGames]

I will stand by my point that if we had any kind of tree removal in the game all the trees on the map would be gone by day 2 or 3 of each war lol

[@Chevy64w]

I just wish that shovels cost less, maybe just have the starting hammer be more of a generic smaller E-Tool that can’t dig entire bunker or trench complexes but can simply dig a small foxhole, it feels wrong that in a game titled “Foxhole” that to dig one for yourself as a simple infantryman requires risking losing a valuable tool that costs a similar amount to an anti tank rifle to produce

[@RobertLovesGames]

My theory is they have them cost more so people really aren't trench spamming all over. That's just a theory though. Shovels are like gold to me on the battlefield. Whenever I see one I make sure to run it back to the nearest base for safe keeping lol.

[@anantachonnambat6701]

I get you point but at least before all the trench systems came out there were foxholes almost literally everywhere due to how easy it is to make. Not to mention that with supplies, they can shoot rifle on them own. So, I guess dev wanted to change that.

[@bigboyox]

Keep up the good work partner, always love the videos

[@RobertLovesGames]

Thank you so much! Appreciate that!

[@CULLROY]

This was super useful to see. I always wondered how the tech tree and unlocking process worked. Thanks Rob 👍

[@RobertLovesGames]

Glad you found it useful! After 1,600 hours of playing I couldn't have told you when things were researched either before making this video. It's nice to know exact days when things are unlocked. Gives you a good idea about the power spikes in the games and how the war ramps up.

[@stormy1055]

I think warden tanks are weaker than colonial tanks. To be honest, the upgrades are kinda meh for wardens, while for colonials, it's kinda OP.

[@ShinTsurugi7]

while warden tanks seem weaker, you can just roll it out of the MPF such as HTD-Outlaw vs Falchion that needed an extra step to make it into a Spatha... oh, and I'm still pissed that HTD can even bounce a 75 from a BT

[@poopfarmer]

I’d rather have a proto falch vs than regular outlaw, the outlaw is horrible lol

[@ethanniblock5341]

I think the main issue is overuse of the outlaw. The HTD is very strong frontally, the SVH rivals the spatha in dps with its two guns.

[@LegendaryZA]

45m range > anything colonials can build out of an mpf

[@Ben71246]

My personal perspective, as a warden loyalist of 1000 hours, though someone who has also played a colli a bit is this. Like shintsungi said wardens have far better tanks from the initial build, silverhands outlaws and widows are great, whereas collies kinda need to upgrade. This means that collies tend to rely on facilities more. The main advantage that warden tanks have, otage that they are good as soon as built is that they tend to have better range, exp outlaw has 45 meter range. A few other non tank things, collies have a few great infantry advantages such as isg boamostaones and grenadiers outfit, but I would say that despite everyone is always praising collie inf I have to say wardens have good stuff too, primarily talking about blakerow here. I think that covers most of the differences but let me know if there is anything I missed

[@dasmik2416]

in war 117 the sledgehamer was unlocked about 6 or 7 day

[@RobertLovesGames]

It changes "sometimes" Looking over the last 10 wars things get researched 90% of the times that I mentioned in this video.

[@johnbradley8901]

Lets not forget about the special colonial overpop tech that hits when the war starts. 30 days of playing nearly every day, 30 days of being nearly overrun. The fact that Wardens are still holding out is just sheer stubbornness. I will keep scrooping until my sub region inevitably turns green.

[@calebwinsor7043]

The stubbornness paid off, eh? 🫡

[@LegendaryZA]

One small tidbit Robero Luvvo Gammo missed was day 8 usually sees anti-tank pushguns, warden anti-tank half tracks and colonial anti-tank tripod weapons (my favoruite part of the war). Typhon Javelin and Battering Rams ♥

[@RobertLovesGames]

True! Thanks for adding this! I semi mentioned it around then with half-tracks coming out during day 8 and 9. When doing research it seemed like this tech was all over the place and not as consistent as the tech that I focused on.

[@dragone3]

I LOVE when the Malone MK.2 gets unlocked.

[@cyber064]

I remembered that one war the devs put the bayonette on the last tier on the techtree (was a long time ago tho)

[@Foxholegamers]

Realy cool that you showed 27th chanels, cant wait to be in more of your videos,, im with those guys as a NCO, realy thanks for the mention! Also your content is great, thanks!

[@RobertLovesGames]

I'm grateful that they shared that information with me even though I'm a dirty collie right now :D And thanks for the kind words!

[@Foxholegamers]

@@RobertLovesGames Np, always here, we in the 27th are willing, if yer need some info, Adar3k1 for your help! We meet in the HCNS, i talked with you there

[@StylishYeoman]

You honestly can't put arty much later than it is right now because even as it stands now, a smart and dedicated builder can just barely get howitzers built before artillery techs. 120mm is what causes the stalemates to end and static fronts to move, even if they're really dug in. Howitzer garrisons will stop just about any attempt at arty and will perpetuate that static front line for another week which isn't fun.

[@RobertLovesGames]

True. Maybe we would just move howitzers as well? I think my reasoning for wanting arty moved back is I just love the early war battles so much. They are so simple and fun.

[@HungryLoki]

I just played my first day1 of a war yesterday, and I had an absolute blast. It's a nice change of pace, only having to worry about enemy infantry. Also having ten other guys hammering away on the scroop fields alongside you feels better than being all on your lonesome in a scrap hauler.

[@PremierVid]

Thanks for the hard work you do but I’m fiending for more

[@RobertLovesGames]

No problem! And what are you wanting more of exactly?

[@KBird204]

6:39 was great, it got me good

[@N0d4chi]

I feel like the "powerspikes" are more important overall. ISG research puts colonials ahead, light tank usually favors wardens and so on.

[@RobertLovesGames]

Agreed. Pretty much day 5,7,15,20 I would think are the big power spikes. And it really does make a difference if one faction get it teched hours before the other faction.

[@Dark-28200]

Good video like always and good luck with the baby.

[@RobertLovesGames]

Thanks! And thank you for that I will need it :D

[@sari_soul9587]

We used to be able to tech skip for next tier protos, it was risk vs reward. As often when you tried for next tier proto you didnt get anything.

[@RobertLovesGames]

I must have just started during the last wars of that because I just vaguely remember that. Would be interesting to have a system that involved again on the tech side.

[@sari_soul9587]

@@RobertLovesGames it used to involve actual tech choice

[@Dodener]

I miss the Colonial QM and Warden TM wars

[@RobertLovesGames]

Same! It was such a cool culture and role to have in the game! Would be cool if there could be some way to bring that back.

[@Т1000-м1и]

Here when 344 views after 23 minutss. Finally I'm early for something

[@RobertLovesGames]

Woo! Nicely done!

[@elkcirle]

From the game name itself. FOXHOLE. When Artillery barrage comes into you. Run to your Foxhole, at least you have a high chance of survival.

[@RobertLovesGames]

For sure! You will have a better chance at survival!

[@TankMaster889]

DONT MAKE OUTLAWS DONT MAKE OUTLAWS DONT MAKE OUTLAWS DONT MAKE OUTLAWS DONT MAKE OUTLAWS DONT MAKE OUTLAWS DONT MAKE OUTLAWS DONT MAKE OUTLAWS

[@RobertLovesGames]

lol!

[@Jonhicks1984]

I think just setting the tech unlocks at fixed points would be better IMO. As you stated sometimes its only a matter of hours between when one faction unlocks before the other. And it would mean that one side doesn't suffer tech wise if you have logi player burn out or worst case, ALTs hindering a faction's progress.

[@RobertLovesGames]

Honestly from this research they basically are at set points. I like that gathering tech materials is a role in this game though. I would hate to see them get rid of it because even those few hours can make a difference when big tech is coming out. I think it's an element of strategy in the game that should stay in my opinion. I would really doubt alts are able to hinder research progress in any productive manner. Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this. Always good to talk these things out!

[@Jonhicks1984]

@@RobertLovesGames They could just repurpose them. make it so you need iron or alu for weapon or vehicles. Say... 5 alu for a crate of cutlers or something and iron as an alternative to assembly mats for vehicle upgrades. I say this cause of the material needed for ship contruction. forget what its called.

[@mustafasuphiaytun8208]

As far as I have seen, wardens only join their clans when the big tanks are opened, so I have not seen a big warden infantry raid or attack until the 10th day of the war. I was an agent in my old clan, I did not see many infantry players, this is because the wardens were very inefficient when it came to infantry.

[@RobertLovesGames]

I've seen this trend as well. A lot of Wardens log on once day 10 comes and tanks start to come out.

[@zaniatnik]

Let’s face it, Warden inf gear kinda sucks ahrse. Collies get Fuscina, Dusk, Bomastone, Catara, Bane, Lunaire, armor kit that is actually practical… What do we get? I mean, the stuff that is actually good and not something that we have to make do with? Except for HE RPG?

[@mustafasuphiaytun8208]

@@zaniatnik Okay, your first day's weapons are not good, they are mostly defense long range rifle no.2, but later on there will be Belekerov, also sampo and fids have powerful weapons, bomb, you are right, ours is a drum nightmare in the trenches because it was shot with wine, did yours fall to the bottom too, do not faint directly?

[@C0VFEFE]

Having large rail come out sooner and take a different material to facilitate this. This way we can lay out tracks earlier in the game.

[@RobertLovesGames]

That would be cool! I would be down for that! Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this!

[@genericname4739]

I kind of would like to know the lore behind the weapons. Some have numerical designations that kind of signify a year of introduction. Examples being the Blakero 871, KRR2-790 Omen, and the Lance 36. Concerning the Lance 36 it is noted to be a new vehicle to the Collie arsenal in lore (at the time it was added) so the 36 is likely an introduction date which going off the Blakero the year in Foxhole is some time after 936. It's just interesting when there are lore bits given out. We dont know a lot about the Colonials or the Warden, only the catalyst that led them to war which likely started 4 or 5 centuries ago after the Veli Civil War. So for around 500 years if not more these two sides have been at war. And the only indications we have of this time frames is the weapons used by both sides indicating an introduction date. It puts into perspective just how long both have been fighting. They likely have been advancing in technology slowly since both sides have been noted to regress, rediscover, and occasionally advance in tech. I have no doubt that this war has not been going on for 500, but quite possibly almost a millenia. Could be possible that the year 0 may have been the start of the war between the Warden and the Colonials. I like the ambiguity of Foxhole lore it gives room to speculate, but i cant deny that i also would like to know the entire picture rather than pieces of it.

[@viniciusdasilva7052]

Good video👍

[@RobertLovesGames]

Thank you!

[@chrismah6248]

Every time i ask sledges are always 15 min. Away.

[@RobertLovesGames]

Every single time lol!

[@AlexMorrison]

Hey Robert! I almost didn’t click on this video because I thought I had already watched it. I’m the thumbnail, the red “timeline” line looked like the red line KZbin shows when you have watched a video. Thought you might like to know in case it comes up in the future :)

[@RobertLovesGames]

Oh no! That's a really good point lol! Maybe I will see if I can make a new thumbnail :D Thanks for letting me know!

[@yutanarkavich]

back in the day we would control all tech tree and we would see numbers, no dev intervention, no auto tech speed or anything. It was pure, it made things more tactical and it was more fun honestly. You would shape your tech tree since it had branches you could follow, somewhat like HOI4, there were more people working in tech because every war it was true tech race.

[@percinatto]

What day will the planes be researchable? Cant wait to find out

[@RobertLovesGames]

I bet they can't be researched until like day 25-30 or something like that. Maybe smaller planes will be sooner.

[@riseup3150]

Honestly I'd love to get my hands on a logi ship but I just haven't been on foxhole lately I hope I find time

[@RobertLovesGames]

I haven't been able to try out the new logi ship yet either! Ships take a long time to build and use lol. Good luck to you if you manage to use one!

[@Saradominstr]

imo, all tech progresses rather fast, with the longer wars we've seen recently, I would not mind tech gets slowed down by 50% or more.

[@RobertLovesGames]

I would be fine with some tech coming out later like I mentioned artillery and some I want faster like sledge hammers or harvesters. Maybe that is because I'm a logi main :D

[@RykerDaRed]

Where do you find the statistics for the release of new tech in each war? I'd love to look at the numbers and check it out myself

[@derick115_1]

just a question at the very start it showed defenses and trucks being made what did you use to see that?

[@RobertLovesGames]

What's the timestamp?

[@derick115_1]

0:01

[@loafofbread9400]

Game needs expose new players to tech running and logi, i wouldnt have a single clue of the in and out if it wasnt for other players teaching me, even coming back after long breaks often feels so unaccessible with so many menus and create loading etc

[@RobertLovesGames]

That would be cool! And I didn't have a clue how it worked until I was like 500 hours into the game. Would be cool to have better ways to teach new players about this kind of stuff.

[@swedichboy1000]

How would airplanes and zeppelins work in Foxhole?

[@RobertLovesGames]

Honestly right now I don't think they really would unless they were some form of AI and not player driven. Something like having the ability to deliver supplies with AI plane or call in long range bomb strikes or something.

[@limuelmagbanua3137]

as much i would like to play it im the runt that can't buy it but hey ill keep watching

[@RobertLovesGames]

Hopefully some day!

[@mangoslaier285]

15 min until next tech

[@RobertLovesGames]

lol! Exactly!

[@Joe-y7g]

How do you color your items like that, Robert?

[@RobertLovesGames]

I use this mod right here. DM me on discord if you need help setting this up! sentsu.itch.io/foxhole-ui-label-icons

[@ISawABear]

honestly i think tech and research in foxhole is pretty boring from a point of how ot interacts with the wider war and the wider playerbase. while i domt know how to implement it just yet, itd be cool is factions could generalize or specialize research. like imagine if wardens just b-lined nukes and literally nothing else 😂 also thanks for using my clip 😁

[@taroxsplaylists7960]

Cannot more than agree with your statement. Even tho there is some space for decisions, it's usually always the same as in each tier there's always something "must have" so people always choose that one specific tech over the others. Probably having more tiers and not the automatic unlocks (in the category) would help with that as you wouldn't get "stuff for free" in the next tier. And probably tose two trees should be merged together, so the faction would need better decisions if they prefer armor over weapons or other stuff. Personally I would like to make the tech progress like 1.5x longer as well as 25 days to max out everything isn't that much I would say.

[@RobertLovesGames]

lol! That would be nuts! It would be hard to implement something like that cause then everyone needs to be on board right? But I get what your saying I think. Someone had the idea that the tech tree should start over once everything is complete and when it goes through again you start getting like premium items that do more damage or hold more shells or something. Thought that was interesting. And no problem! One of my favorite arty clips :D

[@ISawABear]

@@RobertLovesGames Funny thing is, running through the Tech Tree is how it used to be, but that was how you'd unlock stuff your faction skipped past the first time through (this eventually made way for Facilities and more specifically the vehicle modification station)

[@taroxsplaylists7960]

@@RobertLovesGames that's actually a good idea! I personally wouldn't reset the progress, but instead I would add some modifications to the items/buildings (same as tanks have now). So the faction would either choose to go for an upgrade (for extra stats) or a new technology. But yea, that would require a lot of work for devs.

[@xFlow150]

@@RobertLovesGames More realistic would be that older, outdated vehicles or equipment would either be upgraded or converted into something more useful. We see this countless amount of times in military history. Thus, at the "end" of the tech tree, it would be cool if upgrades for earlier unlocks in the tech tree unlock or field modifications for vehicles that can be added to vehicles with a hammer and Bmats.

[@Chaz16]

5 tanks per crate for wardens when?

[@RobertLovesGames]

Ha! The technology for Wardens is just not there :D

[@koghs]

Ngl research is too fast for how long the wars are

[@RobertLovesGames]

I wouldn't mind some of the early war stuff lasting a bit longer like half tracks and armored cars. I feel like once we get to medium sized tanks around day 15 it all just snowballs really fast.

[@CharliMorganMusic]

I've nwgw r played this game, but I have a hard time wrapping my head around why someone would dedicate hours of their life to gathering tech materials in the backlines. Like, you should be getting paid for doing something that boring.

[@RobertLovesGames]

lol! People just love doing certain task in Foxhole. Like I love doing logistics. I know some players from other games don't quite understand this but it just scratches an itch no other game does.

[@bunnyboy1]

🤣🤣🤣

[@RobertLovesGames]

:D

[@sgtdebones]

I'm a mid-late game player. Mech. Infantry atw

[@RobertLovesGames]

Nice! Love to hear it! Thanks for sharing that!